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ACADEMY BOMBER
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.06 16:45:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform?
if you play the victim in EVE you'll be treated as one. if you go announcing you're a new pilot from dust, then yes. some eve nerd will make his mission to grief you. if you keep from running your mouth you will probably be fine. all it takes is one message in a chat channel to get someone to hunt you. so making some small talk like "i'm a dust play who loves to mine in sector XYZ" = you're going to have a problem. |
ACADEMY BOMBER
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:00:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote:The problem with Eve isn't really related to being from Dust as much as it's being a newbie in a game that's 10 years old. You will have the good people, but as soon as you warp out of hisec you're going to find yourself ganked in short order by people who only really do it to be jerks or are trying to pad out their bounty profile. And there's not much you can do about it, either, if you don't have the backup of a real corporation. And getting anywhere in the game sadly requires forays into the wilds of lowsec, especially if you want to actually make any kind of isk. It's this that's kept me from playing the game, I really hate PVP in MMOs. Nothing breaks my immersion worse than that. Is it like proto stomping or is there always a risk of it but mostly you can get in and get out fast enough? I would like that sort of tension but if it was constant non stop grinding stomping every time i left high sec for a mission then that would be annoying
with a lot of thinking involved and the right fit yes you can run blockades known as gate camps. the carebare above doesn't know what he's talking about. the gate camps exist right on the border of low sec high sec before you enter into vast sections of un claimed space with few players because they are too lazy to go that far into null sec, most people just PVP on the border of low sec/high sec because an ideal trading station is close by. by studying your map and learning to recognize and predict player pirate patterns you can go in and out of null sec with ease (you have to go back to high sec to sell your stuff from null sec, and run the one main gate camp that will be 1 sector outside of high sec, so you use a disposable ship for this)
EVE isn't a game where you get proto stomped it's a game where you mess up because you don't fully know what your doing. if you get stomped it's because you missed a step somewhere. EVE allows you to out think your opponent on many levels. |
Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:10:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform? You're only going to get treated like crap if you come in with this kind of attitude. Seriously, dude. What is with this "racism" against PC gamers? You DO realize that most of us also play games on console, right? In fact, many PC gamers, like myself, have MULTIPLE consoles.
Sorry your right i use to pc game myself and i have 3 consoles. Its just some pc players really believe there are superior but i know they are a minority. Apologies |
Jakar Umbra
Altyr Initiative
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:14:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform?
I started playing EVE, joined up with a corp and loving it, lost a couple ships as to be expected, and remember to stay out of Jita this time of year.
Author of Umbra's Short Stories
Sisters of EVE Initiate.
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:20:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Hin Raven wrote:Or would the master race gank us so much that the game would be unplayable for us peasants? Would we need to hide the fact that we prefer gaming on a different platform? You're only going to get treated like crap if you come in with this kind of attitude. Seriously, dude. What is with this "racism" against PC gamers? You DO realize that most of us also play games on console, right? In fact, many PC gamers, like myself, have MULTIPLE consoles. Sorry your right i use to pc game myself and i have 3 consoles. Its just some pc players really believe there are superior but i know they are a minority. Apologies
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Force Seventrum
Negative-Impact
The East India Co.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:22:00 -
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Of course they will ... everybody loves bunnies ... dont they?
Kidding... EVE is a hard game but the community welcomes everyone.
Green Light EVE:Legion!
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2751
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:23:00 -
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I just started EVE about 5 weeks ago and everyone has been very helpful and welcoming. Just like Dust, find a good corp asap.
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:26:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:I just started EVE about 5 weeks ago and everyone has been very helpful and welcoming. Just like Dust, find a good corp asap.
Is the solo experience any use? I really like the lore of eve |
Tallen Ellecon
1888
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:29:00 -
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There are a few reasons why EVE players wouldn't be nice to you being from Dust
A) PC master race looking down on you, small group.
B) Those who had wanted Dust on PC and are jealous.... they got their wish anyway.
C) Those that feel that Dust did nothing but slow down progress in EVE, and hate it for existing at all.
For the most part all those people are assholes anyway, and not the majority. They would be assholes to you no matter where you came from, and New Eden is full of them. They are already established and feel that everything that doesn't directly benefit them, like helping new players and expanding the player base, is something that hurts them.
As a Dust player you have some experiences and stories that Eve players can relate to and may even be interested in. Also being established in both games makes you a valuable asset to a lot of corps looking foward to possible future interactions.
I'd recommend E-Uni if you don't have a corp in mind already. My EVE character was with them for my first year and they're great at answering questions and teaching you whatever you need to know (and there is a lot to learn).
 
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Hecarim Van Hohen
1359
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:31:00 -
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Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote: You will have the good people, but as soon as you warp out of hisec you're going to find yourself ganked in short order by people who only really do it to be jerks or are trying to pad out their bounty profile. This is a stereotype Carebear mentality. Most of those guys who will "gank you in short order as soon as you leave highsec" are actually some of the most helpful and friendly players in the game. Pirates aren't the badguys, and we don't "do it just to be jerks"..... we do it because hunting down and killing a player's ship is more of a challenge than insta-blapping hundreds and hundreds of NPCs.
This is actually true, I was ganked on a gate (auto-pilot shopping) and he sent me a mail asking if I was new, which I admitted of being, so he invited me into a private chat and walked me through pretty much everything from traveling to pvp. I also got invited into a channel for pirates ( I was interested) and that channel was awesome, they were very helpful and wanted me to be good at the game so I could enjoy the EVE universe.
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:34:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote: You will have the good people, but as soon as you warp out of hisec you're going to find yourself ganked in short order by people who only really do it to be jerks or are trying to pad out their bounty profile. This is a stereotype Carebear mentality. Most of those guys who will "gank you in short order as soon as you leave highsec" are actually some of the most helpful and friendly players in the game. Pirates aren't the badguys, and we don't "do it just to be jerks"..... we do it because hunting down and killing a player's ship is more of a challenge than insta-blapping hundreds and hundreds of NPCs. This is actually true, I was ganked on a gate (auto-pilot shopping) and he sent me a mail asking if I was new, which I admitted of being, so he invited me into a private chat and walked me through pretty much everything from traveling to pvp. I also got invited into a channel for pirates ( I was interested) and that channel was awesome, they were very helpful and wanted me to be good at the game so I could enjoy the EVE universe.
That sounds cool. |
Tallen Ellecon
1888
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:43:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:Jarod Garamonde Jr wrote:Byozuma Kegawa wrote: You will have the good people, but as soon as you warp out of hisec you're going to find yourself ganked in short order by people who only really do it to be jerks or are trying to pad out their bounty profile. This is a stereotype Carebear mentality. Most of those guys who will "gank you in short order as soon as you leave highsec" are actually some of the most helpful and friendly players in the game. Pirates aren't the badguys, and we don't "do it just to be jerks"..... we do it because hunting down and killing a player's ship is more of a challenge than insta-blapping hundreds and hundreds of NPCs. This is actually true, I was ganked on a gate (auto-pilot shopping) and he sent me a mail asking if I was new, which I admitted of being, so he invited me into a private chat and walked me through pretty much everything from traveling to pvp. I also got invited into a channel for pirates ( I was interested) and that channel was awesome, they were very helpful and wanted me to be good at the game so I could enjoy the EVE universe. That sounds cool.
Yes one thing New Eden isn't in short supply of is people who will kick your ass, and then help you back up and tell you how to avoid it in the future. Heck my alliance went on a roam in Gal FW space and we reimbursed all the pilots we destroyed who were less than 2 months old.
People want fights, so they'd rather you be ready for a fight than run away.
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Zortaur Vaax
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
The 11th Hour Alliance
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:43:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Or would i be ganked so much that the game would be unplayable?
Not at all. It depends of course on the corporation you work with or join. I play eve and dust both (although dust not as much as I would like). A friendly corporation like ours  will teach you how to handle all kinds of situations. Knowing what to do to survive is key, same as in dust. So pick a goal, make a plan, learn from your mistakes and be committed, then you will be ready to face the harsh worlds in space and on the ground.
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Force Seventrum
Negative-Impact
The East India Co.
18
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:45:00 -
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EVE-Unviersity ... like DUST-University is a good starting point for new players I think
Green Light EVE:Legion!
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Dr Dammit
Sognariket Logistics
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:22:00 -
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Force Seventrum wrote:EVE-Unviersity ... like DUST-University is a good starting point for new players I think
Yeah, Eve-Uni are (usually) nice people. My two month old alt was ganked by one of their gate-camps, and two minutes later I received an apology from their fleet commander explaining that they weren't supposed to kill newbies, and would I like a reimbursement?
And lowsec really isn't as bad as people say. You just have to know which systems to avoid. Once you're out there and past the gate-camps, it's pretty much deserted. I've been playing solo in lowsec for two years, and have been ganked a grand total of one time (other than the Eve-Uni camp), and that was because I wasn't paying attention. |
ACADEMY BOMBER
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:24:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:I just started EVE about 5 weeks ago and everyone has been very helpful and welcoming. Just like Dust, find a good corp asap. Is the solo experience any use? I really like the lore of eve
it can be but once you go for ot ever so long without ever joining a corp you screw yourself out of ever joining one because not ever joining a corp shows on your history that you've been playing for so long and have no history of joining a corp, if you do decide to finally join one most doors will be shut to you because of your history of never joining a corp they suspect your some kind of spy or griefer. i made this mistake. and you'll eventually want to join a corp because the game is severely limited without other players to band with. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
2755
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:26:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:I just started EVE about 5 weeks ago and everyone has been very helpful and welcoming. Just like Dust, find a good corp asap. Is the solo experience any use? I really like the lore of eve
Just like Dust... it'll take a few months before you have the core skills necessary to hold your own in low sec pvp. You can solo all you want in high sec though.
Nice thing about Eve is the idea of tiercide. Just because someone is in a battleship doesnt mean you stand no chance in pvp. I venture into low sec solo a lot myself (I tend to avoid pvp atm because I lack the core skills necessary). I've lost a few ships but making money is easier in eve with all of the pve options.
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inohahna mamotto
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:27:00 -
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Bro they wont even welcome you on their forums |
Mary Lilac
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:27:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Or would i be ganked so much that the game would be unplayable?
They are unbelievable d-cks. On top of that EvE online is basically Goons online.
To explain what I mean by Goons online. Eve has never had a great community, it has always been filled with griefers and neckbeards. When the Goons showed up, even that griefer/neckbeard filled community looked down on (and were disgusted by) Goons. Now the Goons have infected the society of eve and it is more or less goons online.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:29:00 -
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Dr Dammit wrote:Force Seventrum wrote:EVE-Unviersity ... like DUST-University is a good starting point for new players I think Yeah, Eve-Uni are (usually) nice people. My two month old alt was ganked by one of their gate-camps, and two minutes later I received an apology from their fleet commander explaining that they weren't supposed to kill newbies, and would I like a reimbursement? And lowsec really isn't as bad as people say. You just have to know which systems to avoid. Once you're out there and past the gate-camps, it's pretty much deserted. I've been playing solo in lowsec for two years, and have been ganked a grand total of one time (other than the Eve-Uni camp), and that was because I wasn't paying attention.
Lovely thats the pace i want |
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:38:00 -
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inohahna mamotto wrote:Bro they wont even welcome you on their forums
I avoided these forums for ages. Forums can get toxic at least these do anyway. |
ACADEMY BOMBER
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:39:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:Dr Dammit wrote:Force Seventrum wrote:EVE-Unviersity ... like DUST-University is a good starting point for new players I think Yeah, Eve-Uni are (usually) nice people. My two month old alt was ganked by one of their gate-camps, and two minutes later I received an apology from their fleet commander explaining that they weren't supposed to kill newbies, and would I like a reimbursement? And lowsec really isn't as bad as people say. You just have to know which systems to avoid. Once you're out there and past the gate-camps, it's pretty much deserted. I've been playing solo in lowsec for two years, and have been ganked a grand total of one time (other than the Eve-Uni camp), and that was because I wasn't paying attention. Lovely thats the pace i want
this is true.. i've lost a total of maybe 4 battlecruisers going in and out of null sec for about a years time. those lost ships i learned what to do next time to keep from loosing them again, they were not PVP ships and were used to blow up and loot NPCs in null sec (which is technically more dangerous than low sec) i would go for hours killing NPCs and maybe see 1 player every 3 hours come and check me out, i would cloak up, watch youtube and then he leaves after about 10 minutes and i go back to my business of looting NPCs. |
tastzlike chicken
Rogue Spades
266
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:39:00 -
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Yes there are sociopaths but many people in EVE are very helpful and supporting of new players. Even the ones that just blew you up. I have been in fleets where pilots reimbursed victims for their ships after we found out they were new; then they were directed to safer zipcodes.
It really kind of depends on your attitude. I can almost promise you that if you come off as arrogant or immune to advise then the big-boy-rules will automatically go into effect. And if you like to make big statements or truth-claims without supporting your position with a reasoned argument - you will get your face eaten. Then you will be bombed with links, and spreadsheets and graphs.....and then real bombs...and then more links...
I support legion. - it's more of a theoretical support. Depending on the feedback I get, it may become actual support.
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Hin Raven
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:44:00 -
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tastzlike chicken wrote:Yes there are sociopaths but many people in EVE are very helpful and supporting of new players. Even the ones that just blew you up. I have been in fleets where pilots reimbursed victims for their ships after we found out they were new; then they were directed to safer zipcodes.
It really kind of depends on your attitude. I can almost promise you that if you come off as arrogant or immune to advise then the big-boy-rules will automatically go into effect. And if you like to make big statements or truth-claims without supporting your position with a reasoned argument - you will get your face eaten. Then you will be bombed with links, and spreadsheets and graphs.....and then real bombs...and then more links...
Which game has the worse sociopaths eve or dust? |
Hecarim Van Hohen
1363
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:33:00 -
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Hin Raven wrote:tastzlike chicken wrote:Yes there are sociopaths but many people in EVE are very helpful and supporting of new players. Even the ones that just blew you up. I have been in fleets where pilots reimbursed victims for their ships after we found out they were new; then they were directed to safer zipcodes.
It really kind of depends on your attitude. I can almost promise you that if you come off as arrogant or immune to advise then the big-boy-rules will automatically go into effect. And if you like to make big statements or truth-claims without supporting your position with a reasoned argument - you will get your face eaten. Then you will be bombed with links, and spreadsheets and graphs.....and then real bombs...and then more links... Which game has the worse sociopaths eve or dust?
I'd say that the PC and the console communities have the worst sociopaths you could ever find
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
1689
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:35:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:In our corp we have had quite a few players start Eve and fly with the eggers.
Yours is the funniest GIF sig I've seen yet +1000 lmao
The Sinwarden
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byte modal
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:41:00 -
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As others have said, you'll be fine. Just don't go running your mouth in local or being a tool, painting a target on your back. Of course you start in hi-sec with a starter corp that is always full of useful info. It is inevitable that you will be shot down without warning jumping in the middle of a gate camp or from time to time you may be scanned down and located while running solo missions or mining. In my very passive experience, it doesn't happen often.
You will be fine solo, as well. I've always treated EvE as my chill-the-ferk-out game. The music really helps, and the slow pace of mission running has always helped me unwind, with the occasional PVP attempt keeping things interesting.
I'm sure things have changed since I've really spent my last year or more in DUST, but you can get the principle of my meaning in the following:
- You start low running missions, but work your way to low sec for higher pay missions or more valuable mining (assuming you're seriously considering solo game). Explore in shuttles if you're worried of getting killed and losing gear. Pay attention to where your low-sec missing givers are relatively to high-sec gate access points. That jump from .5 to .4 space may get more attention than a gate 2 jumps deeper into low-sec. Spend some time in local and pay attention to the traffic. If your neck of the woods normally only ever has 1-3 others doing there thing then some kat enters local chat with some crazy bounty or security status, then maybe mind your surroundings a bit more until that player leaves.
- If you're mining or mission running, try to keep yourself aligned to a station or gate that you know is safe. Before you can "warp away" your ship must first turn to face the direction of your warp destination. Depending on your skills, ship class, modules equipped, PVE/PVP enemy ships and eWar, it may take too much time to get your hull turned around to even initiate warp. If you pre-align as you play, you're just one step close to escape should you need it.
- Same for gate to gate warping I guess. Align while cloaked, then warp. The logic is, spend the time turning your ship to the next warp destination while taking advantage of the momentary warp cloak as you appear invisible for a few seconds after a gate jump. Better spend the time doing that, than hitting the warp button, auto-decloaking, THEN auto-aligning before warp showing yourself to anyone passively looking to shoot at something.
- Set mid-warp bookmarks for a temp safe spot if you're being hunted.
- Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
Insurance exists!
- You can cover partial expense of loss for your ship. It ranges in value and cost.
- Pay attention to your jump clone/medical clone backup. Unlike DUST, your skillpoints and any implants are tied directly to your clone. So for example: you have 4million ISK worth of implants stuck inside your head and you're flying around minding your own with around 1.5m skill points. If you are killed (ship shields then armor then hull then "pod", and your pod is destroyed) you lose those implants. More importantly, you lose those skill points. UNLESS you have purchased a clone backup to cover any lost skill points. This is also based on amount and varies in price depending on the total number of skill points covered. So if you're flying around with 1.5m SP, make a clone that will protect you up to 3-4m SP. Should you die, you're covered. Do not lose track of that :)
uuuuh. Drones are super fun.
Idunno. I'm at work and bored out of my mind. Sorry for the ramblings. Feel free to correct me if wrong, or add to.
- meow.
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byte modal
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:48:00 -
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Oh. and sorta back on point!
I've had an EvE account longer than I can remember. Ever since first picking up "planetary vehicles" or "marines" cargo for early missions I've always been jazzed by the idea of entering a planetary atmosphere in some form of transport ship and setting foot on the surface of that planet---as an EvE player. Even if it meant just transporting military units of some type to a planet knowing that they could access the surface has always been an in-game fantasy. For more EvE players than you'd think. Walking in station is as close as that ever got for us and even that is more like what you get in your merc quarters. The main difference being we get to style our hair and stuff =\
So, yeah. DUST (in concept at least), is cool to a lot of pilots. IMHO.
Also, I think judging by the replies you're getting, you can see where the vile is regarding forum attitudes. EvE/DUST hybrids are here with their hands out to support and invite.
All the best,
- me.
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
846
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:50:00 -
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they will bank you because it is fun and because they can not because you come from Dust.
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waistr
DEAD-MEN-WALKING
180
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Posted - 2014.05.06 19:50:00 -
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try posting that question on the EVE forum, Im not trolling.
Id be interested in the responses, been concidering EVE myself |
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