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bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 688	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:05:00 - [1] - Quote You people are nothing better than fools if you think it was a wise move for CCP to pull itself out of the console market. How many millions of copies of Eve do they sell? How much did they make off Dust514? As far as I've seen, they don't even release that financial information to the public. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve_Online Okay, so this says they had 500K subscribers in 2013. That's what, a million or two dollars a year? You guys know how Eve ISK made Dust ISK look like pocket change? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE CONSOLE INDUSTRY MAKES CCP LOOK. Nintendo made $68.5 million last year. Sony made $458 million. Microsoft and Apple's profits are in the billions, because the cell phone app market is rapidly overtaking the video game console industry. CCP doesn't even release its financial information. The highest you hear them dealing in is a couple million dollars. Pulling out of the console industry was a cowardly and foolish move that will be less profitable. PERIOD.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 1251	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:07:00 - [2] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Okay, so this says they had 500K subscribers in 2013. That's what, a million or two dollars a year? What math did you use to come to that conclusion?
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 688	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:09:00 - [3] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: bamboo x wrote: Okay, so this says they had 500K subscribers in 2013. That's what, a million or two dollars a year? What math did you use to come to that conclusion? Oh yeah, you're right. Ten or twenty is what I meant to say.
WhatWhat DJINN TheButt Ametat Security Amarr Empire 107	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:11:00 - [4] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: bamboo x wrote: Okay, so this says they had 500K subscribers in 2013. That's what, a million or two dollars a year? What math did you use to come to that conclusion? Oh yeah, you're right. Ten or twenty is what I meant to say. What math did you use to come to that conclusion?
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 688	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:14:00 - [5] - Quote WhatWhat DJINN TheButt wrote: bamboo x wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: bamboo x wrote: Okay, so this says they had 500K subscribers in 2013. That's what, a million or two dollars a year? What math did you use to come to that conclusion? Oh yeah, you're right. Ten or twenty is what I meant to say. What math did you use to come to that conclusion? Shut the hell up troll. Seriously. THE MATH IS NONEXISTANT. THEY DO NOT RELEASE THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION.
Karl Koekwaus 217	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:14:00 - [6] - Quote bamboo x wrote: CCP doesn't even release its financial information. The highest you hear them dealing in is a couple million dollars. I bet you didn't even try to google it. As it's false, they do release a financial statement every year. Micheal Jackson died for my sins
Gaelon Thrace Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 349	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:16:00 - [7] - Quote 1. 500k subscribers x $15 per month = $90mil a year 2. Your comparing an indie game developer's annual income from one game to companies like Sony and Microsoft? Were you dropped on your head as a child?
WhatWhat DJINN TheButt Ametat Security Amarr Empire 107	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:18:00 - [8] - Quote bamboo x wrote: WhatWhat DJINN TheButt wrote: bamboo x wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: bamboo x wrote: Okay, so this says they had 500K subscribers in 2013. That's what, a million or two dollars a year? What math did you use to come to that conclusion? Oh yeah, you're right. Ten or twenty is what I meant to say. What math did you use to come to that conclusion? Shut the hell up troll. Seriously. THE MATH IS NONEXISTANT. THEY DO NOT RELEASE THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION. So you're pulling numbers out of your arse and then getting upset when people clarify that. You are a silly duck.
Delta90212 Dust2Dust. Top Men. 446	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:18:00 - [9] - Quote EvE Legion is the only way for the game to progress further.
WhatWhat DJINN TheButt Ametat Security Amarr Empire 107	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:18:00 - [10] - Quote Also, yeah, their financial statements are a thing.

Karl Koekwaus 217	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:19:00 - [11] - Quote bamboo x wrote: WhatWhat DJINN TheButt wrote: bamboo x wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: bamboo x wrote: Okay, so this says they had 500K subscribers in 2013. That's what, a million or two dollars a year? What math did you use to come to that conclusion? Oh yeah, you're right. Ten or twenty is what I meant to say. What math did you use to come to that conclusion? Shut the hell up troll. Seriously. THE MATH IS NONEXISTANT. THEY DO NOT RELEASE THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION. https://www.ccpgames.com/en/company/corporateinformation/financial-information https://www.ccpgames.com/media/47894/ccp_hf_financial_statements_december_31_2013.pdf Also I just noticed out of all companies you listed, the Pure console builders are the smallest. oops Micheal Jackson died for my sins
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 688	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:21:00 - [12] - Quote Jesus Christ. I guess they do make quite a bit off their little Eve game. But $70 million profit is still pocket change compared to the industry they're pulling their assets out from. If you're wondering why I'm comparing annual PROFIT (not income) of CCP to the console industry giants, then perhaps you need to take a 101 course in logic.
WhatWhat DJINN TheButt Ametat Security Amarr Empire 107	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:23:00 - [13] - Quote bamboo x wrote: If you're wondering why I'm comparing annual PROFIT (not income) of CCP to the console industry giants, then perhaps you need to take a 101 course in logic. You're not comparing shit. Your argument is "I HYPOTHESISE THAT CCP MAKES X MANY MILLIONS BUT THIS IS NOT AS MANY MILLIONS AS THESE X+POSITIVE_Y THINGS"
WhatWhat DJINN TheButt Ametat Security Amarr Empire 107	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:25:00 - [14] - Quote SO GMAIL HAS 425m USERS AND MAKES IDK, LETS SAY ONE DOLLAR FROM EACH OF THEM. WHY DO I EXPECT THEY MAKE A DOLLAR? IDK, I HAVEN'T DONE ANY RESEARCH. HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO OTHER MAIL PROVIDERS? LET'S SEE...
WhatWhat DJINN TheButt Ametat Security Amarr Empire 107	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:26:00 - [15] - Quote Asshat. Seriously.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 688	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:27:00 - [16] - Quote You people are seriously mentally challenged. I give up. I edited the first post for you, CCP fanboys. Have fun with it, I'll be back later to put you all in your intellectual places.
WhatWhat DJINN TheButt Ametat Security Amarr Empire 107	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:30:00 - [17] - Quote bamboo x wrote: You people are seriously mentally challenged. I give up. I ~~edited the first post for you~~ removed the evidence of that stupid flawed argument I lead with, CCP fanboys. Have fun with it, I'll be back later to put you all in your intellectual places.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 688	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:30:00 - [18] - Quote Karl Koekwaus wrote: Also I just noticed out of all companies you listed, Nintendo's profits are the smallest. Fixed. By no means is Nintendo small. And Sony started off as a TV and radio company, so the only "console purist" is Nintendo, seeing as uh, I don't know, maybe they invented it?
WhatWhat DJINN TheButt Ametat Security Amarr Empire 107	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:32:00 - [19] - Quote Arguments so far: CCP makes two million dollars a year. Source: Made this ish up [MYTH BUSTED] CCP does not release any financial information. Source: NOPE [MYTH BUSTED] Yeah, keep 'em coming, kiddo.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 688	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:33:00 - [20] - Quote WhatWhat DJINN TheButt wrote: bamboo x wrote: You people are seriously mentally challenged. I give up. I ~~edited the first post for you~~ removed the evidence of that stupid flawed argument I lead with, CCP fanboys. Have fun with it, I'll be back later to put you all in your intellectual places. Unless they plan on manufacturing their own line of PCs or other hardware, it's not a flawed argument. The point is they are pulling their assets out of the console industry and banking on the PC gaming one instead. In effect they are taking their company out of the hands of smaller corporations only to get swallowed up by the larger ones, Microsoft and Apple. The computer manufacturing giants. Please continue to awe me with your flawed logic.

medomai grey WarRavens Final Resolution. 684	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:33:00 - [21] - Quote bamboo x wrote: WhatWhat DJINN TheButt wrote: bamboo x wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: bamboo x wrote: Okay, so this says they had 500K subscribers in 2013. That's what, a million or two dollars a year? What math did you use to come to that conclusion? Oh yeah, you're right. Ten or twenty is what I meant to say. What math did you use to come to that conclusion? Shut the hell up troll. Seriously. THE MATH IS NONEXISTANT. THEY DO NOT RELEASE THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION. He denied math? Burn the heretic! Burn him with lasers! On a more serious note, there are legitimate reasons for EVE: Legion; both financially and development wise. It sucks that a percentile of our player base won't be able to or just simply wont join us in Legion. But it sucks harder that Dust514 has failed to live up vision it was intended for. We came to this game drawn in by the plans CCP had for this game, but those plans were just too ambitious for the chosen platform. Legion has the potential to realize that vision we all bought into, give Legion a chance. Medium frame EHP is not medium
WhatWhat DJINN TheButt Ametat Security Amarr Empire 107	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:36:00 - [22] - Quote Paging doctors Dunning and Kruger to the thread.
WhatWhat DJINN TheButt Ametat Security Amarr Empire 107	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:38:00 - [23] - Quote bamboo x wrote: WhatWhat DJINN TheButt wrote: bamboo x wrote: You people are seriously mentally challenged. I give up. I ~~edited the first post for you~~ removed the evidence of that stupid flawed argument I lead with, CCP fanboys. Have fun with it, I'll be back later to put you all in your intellectual places. Unless they plan on manufacturing their own line of PCs or other hardware, it's not a flawed argument. The point is they are pulling their assets out of the console industry and banking on the PC gaming one instead. In effect they are taking their company out of the hands of smaller corporations only to get swallowed up by the larger ones, Microsoft and Apple. The computer manufacturing giants. Please continue to awe me with your flawed logic. Each time you are criticised you should change your argument and pretend that was your point all along.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 688	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:39:00 - [24] - Quote medomai grey wrote: On a more serious note, there are legitimate reasons for EVE: Legion; both financially and development wise. It sucks that a percentile of our player base won't be able to or just simply wont join us in Legion. But it sucks harder that Dust514 has failed to live up vision it was intended for. We came to this game drawn in by the plans CCP had for this game, but those plans were just too ambitious for the chosen platform. Legion has the potential to realize that vision we all bought into, give Legion a chance. Sure. I'll just waste over a thousand dollars on a gaming PC that I don't want, or have time for. I'll continue to let CCP feed off me like a parasite instead of focusing my energy on my own welfare. You neckbearded middle aged troglodytes can continue to waste your lives away in your mom's basement while we who aren't CCP's loyal servants actually have a life.
WhatWhat DJINN TheButt Ametat Security Amarr Empire 107	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:43:00 - [25] - Quote [Strawmanning intensifies]
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 575	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:45:00 - [26] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Karl Koekwaus wrote: Also I just noticed out of all companies you listed, Nintendo's profits are the smallest. Fixed. By no means is Nintendo small. And Sony started off as a TV and radio company, so the only "console purist" is Nintendo, seeing as uh, I don't know, maybe they invented it? also wrong. they invented the handheld console. not actual consoles. this is why nintendo's strongest prouduct has recently (last 30 years) been its handhelds.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 688	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:49:00 - [27] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: also wrong. they invented the handheld console. not actual consoles. this is why nintendo's strongest product was the NES which put Sega, Atari, and the competition in general out of business for a decade. Fixed.
Karl Koekwaus 219	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:51:00 - [28] - Quote bamboo x wrote: boba's fetta wrote: also wrong. they invented the handheld console. not actual consoles. this is why nintendo's strongest product was the NES which put Sega, Atari, and the competition in general out of business for a decade. Fixed. You fixed it wrong, Gameboy outsold NES by a large margin and even outsold the NES + SNES: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_million-selling_game_consoles plz stop, you're yourself look stupid Micheal Jackson died for my sins
Selene Machius Nos Nothi 2	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:54:00 - [29] - Quote bamboo x wrote: medomai grey wrote: On a more serious note, there are legitimate reasons for EVE: Legion; both financially and development wise. It sucks that a percentile of our player base won't be able to or just simply wont join us in Legion. But it sucks harder that Dust514 has failed to live up vision it was intended for. We came to this game drawn in by the plans CCP had for this game, but those plans were just too ambitious for the chosen platform. Legion has the potential to realize that vision we all bought into, give Legion a chance. Sure. I'll just waste over a thousand dollars on a gaming PC that I don't want, or have time for. I'll continue to let CCP feed off me like a parasite instead of focusing my energy on my own welfare. You neckbearded middle aged troglodytes can continue to waste your lives away in your mom's basement while we who aren't CCP's loyal servants actually have a life. >Over $1000 http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3Cgz0 Still better than any console released today, $504.37. You're welcome, buddy! Sener Machius, if he were to trust in rust. If you can see this, I probably used the wrong alt.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 688	Posted - 2014.05.04 11:56:00 - [30] - Quote Karl Koekwaus wrote: You fixed it wrong, Gameboy outsold NES by a large margin and even outsold the NES + SNES: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_million-selling_game_consoles plz stop, you're yourself look stupid best does not mean best selling. it means it was the best because of Mario Bros. You people are the stupid ones. I'm done with this bullshit. Peace.



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