DUST Search - A Change of Perspective, Perhaps

low genius wrote:

Ryder Azorria wrote:

Sooo... Clearly people are pretty emotional about this whole CCP "replacing" Dust thing, but thats not quite what they're doing.

Instead of a simple replacement for Dust, or Dust 515 - we should be looking at Legion as an attempt to rebuild and rebrand the core Dust experience.

CCP isn't trying to screw us over by taking one game away while going "oh maybe you'll like this different one instead" - they're trying to deliver on the original promises Dust made, the promises that brought most of here to begin with. And it's not like Dust is going anywhere in the meantime.

So, I propose that we sit down and relax, crack open a cold beer, and once things have calmed down a bit - we continue shooting each other in the face, and watch to see where Legion ends up going.

but they're making those exact same promises that remain unfulfilled right now. dust is NOT what it should be right now.

tell us again about a player driven market. tell us again about interaction with eve online.

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Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 874	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:12:00 - [1] - Quote Sooo... Clearly people are pretty emotional about this whole CCP "replacing" Dust thing, but thats not quite what they're doing. Instead of a simple replacement for Dust, or Dust 515 - we should be looking at Legion as an attempt to rebuild and rebrand the core Dust experience. CCP isn't trying to screw us over by taking one game away while going "oh maybe you'll like this different one instead" - they're trying to deliver on the original promises Dust made, the promises that brought most of here to begin with. And it's not like Dust is going anywhere in the meantime. So, I propose that we sit down and relax, crack open a cold beer, and once things have calmed down a bit - we continue shooting each other in the face, and watch to see where Legion ends up going.
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 909	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:13:00 - [2] - Quote But not on the system we were told it would be on.. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 46	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:15:00 - [3] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Sooo... Clearly people are pretty emotional about this whole CCP "replacing" Dust thing, but thats not quite what they're doing. Instead of a simple replacement for Dust, or Dust 515 - we should be looking at Legion as an attempt to rebuild and rebrand the core Dust experience. CCP isn't trying to screw us over by taking one game away while going "oh maybe you'll like this different one instead" - they're trying to deliver on the original promises Dust made, the promises that brought most of here to begin with. And it's not like Dust is going anywhere in the meantime. So, I propose that we sit down and relax, crack open a cold beer, and once things have calmed down a bit - we continue shooting each other in the face, and watch to see where Legion ends up going. I think this video by Squad B sums up what you are saying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNkFxj0G42I Come Join the War
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 874	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:16:00 - [4] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: But not on the system we were told it would be on.. Yeah, that's the sticking point, and truth be told I will be pissed if there isn't a PS4 version at some point - but it's far from set in stone either way.
Ceadda Sai Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 16	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:16:00 - [5] - Quote Pass me a cold one. I'm ready to ride this wave of tears to the new promised land. Forge Gunners: Now this is a gun for going out and and making people miserable with.
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 267	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:17:00 - [6] - Quote aww you must want a free vacation too? ** sucker. Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.**
JACKAL ZER0 OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 19	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:17:00 - [7] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: But not on the system we were told it would be on.. You would have to be foolish to think that the PS3 could even handle the "dust experience" we're all really wanting. I think legion is a great step in the right direction, getting away from the PS3 and more importantly, sony. So at the end of the day, the console life span is taken away, and legion might actually end up being a great game. Anyways, PC is masterrace, it'll be nice getting a new computer...
DozersMouse XIII Inner.Hell 599	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:19:00 - [8] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: But not on the system we were told it would be on.. they don't get it Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 832	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:20:00 - [9] - Quote As far as we know right now: It won't be on the system we were told it'd be on. (I.e. console, not specifically PS3) It won't have any crossover, AKA "Thanks for your time and money on this open beta, we'll now be making you start over on a completely new system." All of the investment that people put forward, the time and the money, will now possibly pay off for another playerbase on another platform. Oh, and I own a PC, so this isn't a "wah, I don't want to have to buy a computer." Many of us put in hours and money for what DUST could be. Now we're finding out that DUST couldn't be anything more than a disappointing precurser to an entire other game. Amarr Master - All Amarr Dropsuits at lvl 5. I might be butthurt, but you'll never know! A manu dei et tet rimon.
DozersMouse XIII Inner.Hell 599	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:20:00 - [10] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: ResistanceGTA wrote: But not on the system we were told it would be on.. Yeah, that's the sticking point, and truth be told I will be pissed if there isn't a PS4 version at some point - but it's far from set in stone either way. be pissed then do you think sony will have good relations with ccp after all the refund calls made today? Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make

Hairy Butter Fairy Fleet 53	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:22:00 - [11] - Quote Wrong, they were screwing people over for the last 4 months, and then they had the arrogance to throw it in peoples faces at fanfest right after people bought aur for omega boosters for 2 huge bonus sp events within the last month, all while inticing dusties to spend money on FF tickets. Nah the stupidity and arrogance is overwhelming, they were also warned by cpm members and ignored it.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 875	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:26:00 - [12] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Sooo... Clearly people are pretty emotional about this whole CCP "replacing" Dust thing, but thats not quite what they're doing. Instead of a simple replacement for Dust, or Dust 515 - we should be looking at Legion as an attempt to rebuild and rebrand the core Dust experience. CCP isn't trying to screw us over by taking one game away while going "oh maybe you'll like this different one instead" - they're trying to deliver on the original promises Dust made, the promises that brought most of here to begin with. And it's not like Dust is going anywhere in the meantime. So, I propose that we sit down and relax, crack open a cold beer, and once things have calmed down a bit - we continue shooting each other in the face, and watch to see where Legion ends up going. I think this video by Squad B sums up what you are saying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNkFxj0G42I Haven't watched it all yet, but yeah - seems like a similar sentiment.
First Prophet Minmatar Republic 1554	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:27:00 - [13] - Quote JACKAL ZER0 wrote: ResistanceGTA wrote: But not on the system we were told it would be on.. You would have to be foolish to think that the PS3 could even handle the "dust experience" we're all really wanting. I think legion is a great step in the right direction, getting away from the PS3 and more importantly, sony.. Yep. Fools! Foolish fools of the highest caliber! Only fools would believe the fools over at CCP who said the PS3 could handle it. Truly, not even the kings of fools would have believed the CCP fools were laser focused on the foolish PS3 and had a foolish 10 year plan. Tell 'em Excalibur! Users found this review helpful.
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 634	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:29:00 - [14] - Quote Worse still they rub it in our frakkin faces. See this, you have been crying for this too! Ooh and look at this! You want it?! You REALLY want it?! No. PC Only. Thank for the cash. We stop DUST as of now. Cheers. They aren't making DUST a better game for US. They are making a better game for someone ELSE.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 877	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:41:00 - [15] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: As far as we know right now: It won't be on the system we were told it'd be on. (I.e. console, not specifically PS3) It won't have any crossover, AKA "Thanks for your time and money on this open beta, we'll now be making you start over on a completely new system." snip Many of us put in hours and money for what DUST could be. Now we're finding out that DUST couldn't be anything more than a disappointing precurser to an entire other game. 1. It won't be on PS3 (and to be perfectly honest, good) but it could still easily be on PS4, - Valkyrie is doing it and their team is only 25 strong 2. Not even remotely - while there won't be a 1:1 transfer between Dust and Legion, seeing as the relevant systems in Legion are both completely different and still in flux - there will be *something* And finally, lets be honest here. Deep down we already knew that Dust would never be able to work on the PS3 - it might hurt to admit, but it's true (also, turn back the forums 24h - not so precious about either the PS3 or the game back then , were we?)
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1570	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:47:00 - [16] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Sooo... Clearly people are pretty emotional about this whole CCP "replacing" Dust thing, but thats not quite what they're doing. Instead of a simple replacement for Dust, or Dust 515 - we should be looking at Legion as an attempt to rebuild and rebrand the core Dust experience. CCP isn't trying to screw us over by taking one game away while going "oh maybe you'll like this different one instead" - they're trying to deliver on the original promises Dust made, the promises that brought most of here to begin with. And it's not like Dust is going anywhere in the meantime. So, I propose that we sit down and relax, crack open a cold beer, and once things have calmed down a bit - we continue shooting each other in the face, and watch to see where Legion ends up going. but they're making those exact same promises that remain unfulfilled right now. dust is NOT what it should be right now. tell us again about a player driven market. tell us again about interaction with eve online. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 877	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:47:00 - [17] - Quote A fInal thought before I go off to bed, by "watch where Legion ends up going" I did not mean "Legion is teh amazeballs, we should burn our PS3s and embrace teh #pcmasterrace" I literally meant watch to see where CCP goes with it. Things like how they handle the crossover, a potential future PS4 version, that bloody progression crap they showed earlier will make or break the game - and as Legion is now the 'chosen one' we should watch how it progresses and give honest, constructive feedback where appropriate.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 877	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:49:00 - [18] - Quote low genius wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Sooo... Clearly people are pretty emotional about this whole CCP "replacing" Dust thing, but thats not quite what they're doing. Instead of a simple replacement for Dust, or Dust 515 - we should be looking at Legion as an attempt to rebuild and rebrand the core Dust experience. CCP isn't trying to screw us over by taking one game away while going "oh maybe you'll like this different one instead" - they're trying to deliver on the original promises Dust made, the promises that brought most of here to begin with. And it's not like Dust is going anywhere in the meantime. So, I propose that we sit down and relax, crack open a cold beer, and once things have calmed down a bit - we continue shooting each other in the face, and watch to see where Legion ends up going. but they're making those exact same promises that remain unfulfilled right now. dust is NOT what it should be right now. tell us again about a player driven market. tell us again about interaction with eve online. That's why they're making Legion - Dust is too far gone and the PS3 (and Sony) too restrictive,
Meknow Intaki 229	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:58:00 - [19] - Quote CCP and there Devs don't care about PS3 players anymore there onto bigger and better things now!! Today CCP killed dust and laughed in our faces=ƒÿå
Dkafamos Comando Brasil 51	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:24:00 - [20] - Quote JACKAL ZER0 wrote: ResistanceGTA wrote: But not on the system we were told it would be on.. You would have to be foolish to think that the PS3 could even handle the "dust experience" we're all really wanting. I think legion is a great step in the right direction, getting away from the PS3 and more importantly, sony. So at the end of the day, the console life span is taken away, and legion might actually end up being a great game. Anyways, PC is masterrace, it'll be nice getting a new computer... Basicaly this. The PS3 never had the required specs to make what they proposed. Which makes me think CCP goes some fat cash from Sony to make it PS3 exclusive. Now that they can make Legion, it'll be a much better game.

Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 123	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:27:00 - [21] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: But not on the system we were told it would be on.. Nope, just the one we wished it would be on.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2683	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:38:00 - [22] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: ResistanceGTA wrote: But not on the system we were told it would be on.. Yeah, that's the sticking point, and truth be told I will be pissed if there isn't a PS4 version at some point - but it's far from set in stone either way. be pissed then do you think sony will have good relations with ccp after all the refund calls made today? I doubt this is the first sony is hearing of this. Yes, Sony is essentially a game vendor and platform caretaker. If CCP wants to bring Legion to the PS4 Sony will say 'Hell Yes!". Valkyrie is already developing for PS4. Do not think for a second Sony is going to act like a 13 year old like 90% of the player base is acting today and do anything wrongful towards CCP. '#PCMasterRace 5/2/2014 - Best day in Dust's history Thank you CCP Rouge.


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