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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:35:00 -
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I know that I've been one advocating for a move to PC for a while, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Given the most recent financial statement, I halfway expected a shutdown of Dust too, so who else saw it coming?
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:36:00 -
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The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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CRYPT3C W0LF
SilenT AngelS RISE of LEGION
665
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:37:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable.
Totally agree
CCP Has Royally fucked the Dust 514 Community
Deleted Dust May 2nd 2014, I'm done with this shit
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2177
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:38:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched?
The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even. |
Orin the Freak
The Solecism of Limitation
863
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:39:00 -
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Complete kick in the nuts to me.
I knew they were bringing it to PC when the keynote started and he told anyone that saw something to STFU.. I was like "Dust on PC". But I had no idea they were going to just shitcan Dust 514 like that. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:40:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:Complete kick in the nuts to me.
I knew they were bringing it to PC when the keynote started and he told anyone that saw something to STFU.. I was like "Dust on PC". But I had no idea they were going to just shitcan Dust 514 like that.
You drop the money losers. Anyone watching http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust for the last year could tell you that Dust was bringing in money anymore. |
DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
282
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:40:00 -
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I honestly expected a PC version to be announced. I didn't expect CCP to completely ignore the current Dust514 at The "DUST514 Keynote" of all places. If CCP would have at least shown anything new coming to Dust514, then this would not be the complete shitstorm it is now. |
Rupture Reaperson
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
273
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:40:00 -
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******* CALLED IT.
Over a year ago... |
Kane Fyea
2674
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:42:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even. Can you please tell me how you think dust will be better on the pc besides it having better mkb usage. |
Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2554
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:42:00 -
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For those of you that dont know PC f2p games makes a **** ton of money and CCP Rouge came from EA f2p and would have known this. Combine it with ps3 being 10 year old hardware and we should have all known it was coming.
The issue we all have is the deceit and arrogance in ccp did this. CCP rouge is a coward to let dust players pay real money to go to fan fest and be **** on.
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:43:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even.
"Make sure you tune into the keynotes for important information regarding dust 514's future *positive light*" - What we got "the year in retrospective, announcement of legion for PC and shiny new features" when someone asked whether these features were for legion, dust or both there was a simple 'nope, legion only gtfo'.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege Top Men.
2367
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:44:00 -
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I did not expect CCP to be this dumb, no. As a PC gamer, sure, I'm enthused to actually play this on my high end machines. But I also know Legion will likely not survive with a company like CCP at the helm, after how they've handled DUST players this year.
I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:44:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Buster Friently wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even. Can you please tell me how you think dust will be better on the pc besides it having better mkb usage.
More freedom in regards to updates (not having to be tied to sony QA), actual test servers, better potential for graphical improvements, not being tied to console hardware etc. There's lots more that I'm probably not even aware of.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:45:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Buster Friently wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even. "Make sure you tune into the keynotes for important information regarding dust 514's future *positive light*" - What we got "the year in retrospective, announcement of legion for PC and shiny new features" when someone asked whether these features were for legion, dust or both there was a simple 'nope, legion only gtfo'.
And this makes me happy. Dust has been dead. PC is where Dust should have been, and the only place where it can flourish. Legion, sounds to me, like what Dust was originally supposed to be, before the PS3 and the console crowd forced a lobby shooter.
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Glantix Karmic-Snow
Frozen Karma
22
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:45:00 -
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Accepting all isk.
Yes, I will stick with Dust!
Accepting any and all isk from those who are quitting!
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Dreniella
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:45:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Furthermore their absolute silence on whether or not we'll be able to retain our characters going forward or whether this game will be getting *any* more content or updates is causing the majority of the problems. They said they will provide you with migration from dust to legion on stream, chill. they are not abandoning anyone. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2184
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:46:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I did not expect CCP to be this dumb, no. As a PC gamer, sure, I'm enthused to actually play this on my high end machines. But I also know Legion will likely not survive with a company like CCP at the helm, after how they've handled DUST players this year. Like ten year old Eve?
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Kane Fyea
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:49:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Buster Friently wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even. Can you please tell me how you think dust will be better on the pc besides it having better mkb usage. More freedom in regards to updates (not having to be tied to sony QA), actual test servers, better potential for graphical improvements, not being tied to console hardware etc. There's lots more that I'm probably not even aware of. 1. They still go through their own QA and Sony has made their QA a lot more lenient then they used to be 2. Test servers are good I can admit that 3. Putting glitter on a piece of shit doesn't make the piece of shit any better (This is about the graphics) 4. Hardware? It just means that CCP will be even more lazy with optimizations then they were on consoles making the game inaccessible to people with lower quality pcs which cuts out a big part of the playerbase. This will also not fix the many many bugs that hurt this game a lot. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:50:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Buster Friently wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even. Can you please tell me how you think dust will be better on the pc besides it having better mkb usage. More freedom in regards to updates (not having to be tied to sony QA), actual test servers, better potential for graphical improvements, not being tied to console hardware etc. There's lots more that I'm probably not even aware of. 1. They still go through their own QA and Sony has made their QA a lot more lenient then they used to be 2. Test servers are good I can admit that 3. Putting glitter on a piece of sh it doesn't make the piece of sh it any better (This is about the graphics) 4. Hardware? It just means that CCP will be even more lazy with optimizations then they were on consoles making the game inaccessible to people with lower quality pcs which cuts out a big part of the playerbase. This will also not fix the many many bugs that hurt this game a lot. Like Eve? |
Dkafamos
Comando Brasil
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:52:00 -
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In all seriousness, Dust was never a good game in PS3. lag issues, Mouse/keyboard issue, low population, consoles aren't for faithful players who stick with games for years, they are for newer games coming every year. PCs, on the other hand, handle better with this kind of thing.
Think of it this way, if they make the game on PC now, it'll be much easier to port to PS4 then from PS3 to PS4. |
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MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
534
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:52:00 -
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Me.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
860
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:53:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Furthermore their absolute silence on whether or not we'll be able to retain our characters going forward or whether this game will be getting *any* more content or updates is causing the majority of the problems.
They are not abandoning the players, not completely. As mentioned (repeatedly) we are getting something for our time, effort and money spent on Dust - just how that everything like SP and items translates over into a different game remains to be seen, plus Sony could throw a spanner in the works with any stuff tied to PSN accounts.
And the 'Bait and switch' was to not ruin the reveal in the schedule - if people had seen "EVE FPS Keynote" or "EVE Legion Reveal" rather than "Dust 514 Keynote" I think we would have known something was up. |
DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
282
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:03:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote: And this makes me happy. Dust has been dead. PC is where Dust should have been, and the only place where it can flourish. Legion, sounds to me, like what Dust was originally supposed to be, before the PS3 and the console crowd forced a lobby shooter.
You will be more disappointed than we are, if you truly believe that statement.
First of all Dust514 wouldn't even exist if CCP didn't want to try & cash in on the console crowd. Secondly, I never realized that the console players were developing this game. I could have sworn it was CCP who developed this lobby shooter for consoles. |
Cinnamon267
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:43:00 -
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I expected a big change to Dust. Because, as it exists, it wasn't going to go any where. To many problems at it's core. The only way you fix it is by starting over. Take what you have, have another shot.
I am not surprised the PS3 is cut out. They always said the game will outlive the PS3. I am surprised they don't have many details regarding how, or if, transfers will work. They should have figured that out first before making the announcement.
But, this isn't a shock, really. When I think about it, it makes sense. Dust as it stands, wasn't going anywhere. |
Archbot
W a r F o r g e d
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:46:00 -
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A better question to be asked would be, "Who expected Dust 514's 'dream' to be executed on the PS3."
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Illuminaughty-696
Omega Risk Control Services
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:47:00 -
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Dreniella wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Furthermore their absolute silence on whether or not we'll be able to retain our characters going forward or whether this game will be getting *any* more content or updates is causing the majority of the problems. They said they will provide you with migration from dust to legion on stream, chill. they are not abandoning anyone.
Linkie? Because I've read multiple dev statements that make this seem less than accurate. Of course, most of these statements are intentionally vague and noncomittal in the apparent hopes we'll keep spending money on DUST.
1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG.
Be polite, they want to refund you!
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Meknow Intaki
225
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:50:00 -
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The cancelling of Dust surprised me.. Damn you CCP!! |
Maciej Szambelan
Made in Poland... E-R-A
51
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:52:00 -
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Mind if I ask? WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING? I have just come here and everyone is moaning, are they shutting dust down? |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:52:00 -
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Everyone except the raging blind fanboys knew that Dust in its current incarnation had a limited lifespan. Combine the issues with the PS3 platform with all the horrible underlying design decisions and the non-existent player base and it just couldn't really survive.
I don't think anyone expected a Killing Fields execution to the back of the head. My expectation was a more managed transition to a combined PC + PS4 platform similar to PS2's move |
First Prophet
Minmatar Republic
1554
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:57:00 -
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I was sort of hoping for a PC switch, but ... not like this.
I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS.
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