DUST Search - Who actually expected this?

Kane Fyea wrote:

MINA Longstrike wrote:

Kane Fyea wrote:

Buster Friently wrote:

MINA Longstrike wrote:

The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable.

Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched?

The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even.

Can you please tell me how you think dust will be better on the pc besides it having better mkb usage.

More freedom in regards to updates (not having to be tied to sony QA), actual test servers, better potential for graphical improvements, not being tied to console hardware etc. There's lots more that I'm probably not even aware of.

1. They still go through their own QA and Sony has made their QA a lot more lenient then they used to be
2. Test servers are good I can admit that
3. Putting glitter on a piece of shit doesn't make the piece of shit any better (This is about the graphics)
4. Hardware? It just means that CCP will be even more lazy with optimizations then they were on consoles making the game inaccessible to people with lower quality pcs which cuts out a big part of the playerbase. This will also not fix the many many bugs that hurt this game a lot.

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Buster Friently Rosen Association 2177	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:35:00 - [1] - Quote I know that I've been one advocating for a move to PC for a while, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Given the most recent financial statement, I halfway expected a shutdown of Dust too, so who else saw it coming?
MINA Longstrike 685	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:36:00 - [2] - Quote The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
CRYPT3C W0LF SilenT AngelS RISE of LEGION 665	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:37:00 - [3] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Totally agree CCP Has Royally fucked the Dust 514 Community Deleted Dust May 2nd 2014, I'm done with this shit
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2177	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:38:00 - [4] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even.
Orin the Freak The Solecism of Limitation 863	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:39:00 - [5] - Quote Complete kick in the nuts to me. I knew they were bringing it to PC when the keynote started and he told anyone that saw something to STFU.. I was like "Dust on PC". But I had no idea they were going to just shitcan Dust 514 like that.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2184	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:40:00 - [6] - Quote Orin the Freak wrote: Complete kick in the nuts to me. I knew they were bringing it to PC when the keynote started and he told anyone that saw something to STFU.. I was like "Dust on PC". But I had no idea they were going to just shitcan Dust 514 like that. You drop the money losers. Anyone watching http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust for the last year could tell you that Dust was bringing in money anymore.
DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 282	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:40:00 - [7] - Quote I honestly expected a PC version to be announced. I didn't expect CCP to completely ignore the current Dust514 at The "DUST514 Keynote" of all places. If CCP would have at least shown anything new coming to Dust514, then this would not be the complete shitstorm it is now.
Rupture Reaperson SyNergy Gaming EoN. 273	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:40:00 - [8] - Quote ******* CALLED IT. Over a year ago...
Kane Fyea 2674	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:42:00 - [9] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even. Can you please tell me how you think dust will be better on the pc besides it having better mkb usage.
Free Beers Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2554	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:42:00 - [10] - Quote For those of you that dont know PC f2p games makes a ** ton of money and CCP Rouge came from EA f2p and would have known this. Combine it with ps3 being 10 year old hardware and we should have all known it was coming. The issue we all have is the deceit and arrogance in ccp did this. CCP rouge is a coward to let dust players pay real money to go to fan fest and be ** on. Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another

MINA Longstrike 691	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:43:00 - [11] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even. "Make sure you tune into the keynotes for important information regarding dust 514's future positive light" - What we got "the year in retrospective, announcement of legion for PC and shiny new features" when someone asked whether these features were for legion, dust or both there was a simple 'nope, legion only gtfo'. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2367	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:44:00 - [12] - Quote I did not expect CCP to be this dumb, no. As a PC gamer, sure, I'm enthused to actually play this on my high end machines. But I also know Legion will likely not survive with a company like CCP at the helm, after how they've handled DUST players this year. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
MINA Longstrike 691	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:44:00 - [13] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Buster Friently wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even. Can you please tell me how you think dust will be better on the pc besides it having better mkb usage. More freedom in regards to updates (not having to be tied to sony QA), actual test servers, better potential for graphical improvements, not being tied to console hardware etc. There's lots more that I'm probably not even aware of. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2184	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:45:00 - [14] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Buster Friently wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even. "Make sure you tune into the keynotes for important information regarding dust 514's future positive light" - What we got "the year in retrospective, announcement of legion for PC and shiny new features" when someone asked whether these features were for legion, dust or both there was a simple 'nope, legion only gtfo'. And this makes me happy. Dust has been dead. PC is where Dust should have been, and the only place where it can flourish. Legion, sounds to me, like what Dust was originally supposed to be, before the PS3 and the console crowd forced a lobby shooter.
Glantix Karmic-Snow Frozen Karma 22	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:45:00 - [15] - Quote Accepting all isk. Yes, I will stick with Dust! Accepting any and all isk from those who are quitting!
Dreniella Expert Intervention Caldari State 38	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:45:00 - [16] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Furthermore their absolute silence on whether or not we'll be able to retain our characters going forward or whether this game will be getting any more content or updates is causing the majority of the problems. They said they will provide you with migration from dust to legion on stream, chill. they are not abandoning anyone.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2184	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:46:00 - [17] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I did not expect CCP to be this dumb, no. As a PC gamer, sure, I'm enthused to actually play this on my high end machines. But I also know Legion will likely not survive with a company like CCP at the helm, after how they've handled DUST players this year. Like ten year old Eve?
Kane Fyea 2674	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:49:00 - [18] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Buster Friently wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even. Can you please tell me how you think dust will be better on the pc besides it having better mkb usage. More freedom in regards to updates (not having to be tied to sony QA), actual test servers, better potential for graphical improvements, not being tied to console hardware etc. There's lots more that I'm probably not even aware of. 1. They still go through their own QA and Sony has made their QA a lot more lenient then they used to be 2. Test servers are good I can admit that 3. Putting glitter on a piece of shit doesn't make the piece of shit any better (This is about the graphics) 4. Hardware? It just means that CCP will be even more lazy with optimizations then they were on consoles making the game inaccessible to people with lower quality pcs which cuts out a big part of the playerbase. This will also not fix the many many bugs that hurt this game a lot.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2186	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:50:00 - [19] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Buster Friently wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Bait and switch? How did you get baited and switched? The is the best news to happen to Dust in a long time - years even. Can you please tell me how you think dust will be better on the pc besides it having better mkb usage. More freedom in regards to updates (not having to be tied to sony QA), actual test servers, better potential for graphical improvements, not being tied to console hardware etc. There's lots more that I'm probably not even aware of. 1. They still go through their own QA and Sony has made their QA a lot more lenient then they used to be 2. Test servers are good I can admit that 3. Putting glitter on a piece of shit doesn't make the piece of shit any better (This is about the graphics) 4. Hardware? It just means that CCP will be even more lazy with optimizations then they were on consoles making the game inaccessible to people with lower quality pcs which cuts out a big part of the playerbase. This will also not fix the many many bugs that hurt this game a lot. Like Eve?
Dkafamos Comando Brasil 50	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:52:00 - [20] - Quote In all seriousness, Dust was never a good game in PS3. lag issues, Mouse/keyboard issue, low population, consoles aren't for faithful players who stick with games for years, they are for newer games coming every year. PCs, on the other hand, handle better with this kind of thing. Think of it this way, if they make the game on PC now, it'll be much easier to port to PS4 then from PS3 to PS4.

MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 534	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:52:00 - [21] - Quote Me. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 860	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:53:00 - [22] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Furthermore their absolute silence on whether or not we'll be able to retain our characters going forward or whether this game will be getting any more content or updates is causing the majority of the problems. They are not abandoning the players, not completely. As mentioned (repeatedly) we are getting something for our time, effort and money spent on Dust - just how that everything like SP and items translates over into a different game remains to be seen, plus Sony could throw a spanner in the works with any stuff tied to PSN accounts. And the 'Bait and switch' was to not ruin the reveal in the schedule - if people had seen "EVE FPS Keynote" or "EVE Legion Reveal" rather than "Dust 514 Keynote" I think we would have known something was up.
DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 282	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:03:00 - [23] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: And this makes me happy. Dust has been dead. PC is where Dust should have been, and the only place where it can flourish. Legion, sounds to me, like what Dust was originally supposed to be, before the PS3 and the console crowd forced a lobby shooter. You will be more disappointed than we are, if you truly believe that statement. First of all Dust514 wouldn't even exist if CCP didn't want to try & cash in on the console crowd. Secondly, I never realized that the console players were developing this game. I could have sworn it was CCP who developed this lobby shooter for consoles.
Cinnamon267 179	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:43:00 - [24] - Quote I expected a big change to Dust. Because, as it exists, it wasn't going to go any where. To many problems at it's core. The only way you fix it is by starting over. Take what you have, have another shot. I am not surprised the PS3 is cut out. They always said the game will outlive the PS3. I am surprised they don't have many details regarding how, or if, transfers will work. They should have figured that out first before making the announcement. But, this isn't a shock, really. When I think about it, it makes sense. Dust as it stands, wasn't going anywhere.
Archbot W a r F o r g e d 152	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:46:00 - [25] - Quote A better question to be asked would be, "Who expected Dust 514's 'dream' to be executed on the PS3." Ya¦Åu-Å Å-ÅGèéGäîGä¦Gä¦Gä¦-ìY
Illuminaughty-696 Omega Risk Control Services 357	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:47:00 - [26] - Quote Dreniella wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: The financial statement had nothing to do with this, and by itself meant nothing. A move to PC is a good thing, but abandoning players as well as pulling the bait and switch with 'dust key notes information' and the currently running event are absolutely despicable. Furthermore their absolute silence on whether or not we'll be able to retain our characters going forward or whether this game will be getting any more content or updates is causing the majority of the problems. They said they will provide you with migration from dust to legion on stream, chill. they are not abandoning anyone. Linkie? Because I've read multiple dev statements that make this seem less than accurate. Of course, most of these statements are intentionally vague and noncomittal in the apparent hopes we'll keep spending money on DUST. 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Meknow Intaki 225	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:50:00 - [27] - Quote The cancelling of Dust surprised me.. Damn you CCP!!
Maciej Szambelan Made in Poland... E-R-A 51	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:52:00 - [28] - Quote Mind if I ask? WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING? I have just come here and everyone is moaning, are they shutting dust down?
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 569	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:52:00 - [29] - Quote Everyone except the raging blind fanboys knew that Dust in its current incarnation had a limited lifespan. Combine the issues with the PS3 platform with all the horrible underlying design decisions and the non-existent player base and it just couldn't really survive. I don't think anyone expected a Killing Fields execution to the back of the head. My expectation was a more managed transition to a combined PC + PS4 platform similar to PS2's move
First Prophet Minmatar Republic 1554	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:57:00 - [30] - Quote I was sort of hoping for a PC switch, but ... not like this. I DIDN'T ASK FOR THIS. Users found this review helpful.

Buster Friently Rosen Association 2188	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:17:00 - [31] - Quote DTOracle wrote: Buster Friently wrote: And this makes me happy. Dust has been dead. PC is where Dust should have been, and the only place where it can flourish. Legion, sounds to me, like what Dust was originally supposed to be, before the PS3 and the console crowd forced a lobby shooter. You will be more disappointed than we are, if you truly believe that statement. First of all Dust514 wouldn't even exist if CCP didn't want to try & cash in on the console crowd. Secondly, I never realized that the console players were developing this game. I could have sworn it was CCP who developed this lobby shooter for consoles. The console itself, and the console crowd has most definitely limited this game. Also, CCP has already announced that Legion will be more open world, so I'm pretty sure the lobby shooter thing is done for the most part. Lastly, yes they wanted to cash in on consoles when consoles were the fat-cash-cows, but they aren't so much anymore, so this all makes perfect sense to me.
Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 122	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:21:00 - [32] - Quote I certainly wished it was coming, but to actually see it come was and is amazing.
Kane Fyea 2704	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:22:00 - [33] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: DTOracle wrote: Buster Friently wrote: And this makes me happy. Dust has been dead. PC is where Dust should have been, and the only place where it can flourish. Legion, sounds to me, like what Dust was originally supposed to be, before the PS3 and the console crowd forced a lobby shooter. You will be more disappointed than we are, if you truly believe that statement. First of all Dust514 wouldn't even exist if CCP didn't want to try & cash in on the console crowd. Secondly, I never realized that the console players were developing this game. I could have sworn it was CCP who developed this lobby shooter for consoles. The console itself, and the console crowd has most definitely limited this game. Also, CCP has already announced that Legion will be more open world, so I'm pretty sure the lobby shooter thing is done for the most part. Lastly, yes they wanted to cash in on consoles when consoles were the fat-cash-cows, but they aren't so much anymore, so this all makes perfect sense to me. Wow so much bullshit in a single post.
The Noob Destroyer Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 182	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:26:00 - [34] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: I know that I've been one advocating for a move to PC for a while, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Given the most recent financial statement, I halfway expected a shutdown of Dust too, so who else saw it coming? I did The Real GJR Don't try to be a great man, just be a man and let history make its own judgement.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2683	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:29:00 - [35] - Quote I've always disagreed with you on topics on these forums Buster. But today, +1 buddy. Best news possible. This is best day in Dust 514's history, and will be the best day until the game shuts down. '#PCMasterRace 5/2/2014 - Best day in Dust's history Thank you CCP Rouge.
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2624	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:30:00 - [36] - Quote I saw the move to PC coming. No problem there, it had to happen to give us the dream we all wanted. What I didn't see coming was branding it as a completely separate product from Dust, meaning that they have no obligation to preserve our SP, BPOs, or generally allow us to keep the benefits of the hundreds of dollars we have spent to support this game. I saw that rail rifle in the Legion gameplay demo. I have rail rifle Ops V. Character transfers to Legion kthnx.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 836	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:33:00 - [37] - Quote I expected a port and eventual move to PS4. A completely new game exclusively for the PC and DUST getting the boot came from far left field, so to say. EDIT: Sure, a port to PC maybe sometime down the road, but not to the exclusion of eventually finding a home on the PS4. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1639	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:36:00 - [38] - Quote Saw it and called it since 1.0. I called it in closed beta You pessimist.
Enji Elric Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 302	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:41:00 - [39] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: I did not expect CCP to be this dumb, no. As a PC gamer, sure, I'm enthused to actually play this on my high end machines. But I also know Legion will likely not survive with a company like CCP at the helm, after how they've handled DUST players this year. This is how i feel I will be happy to play it buuuuuuttt CCP needs to not be in charge for it to last as long as they say they want it to see you on other games HAWKEN Warframe STO Steam Benja865
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 584	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:47:00 - [40] - Quote I was fearing that Dust will fail and CCP will abandon the idea. While I was hoping I was not really expecting that they actually salvage all the work in its entirety and eradicate the core issue, namely the game being Dust 514. Dust is FUBAR, but Im glad it is to be salvaged and remade into a new shiney. E .· ` ' / ·. F Tear bucket filling quickly



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