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Zirzo Valcyn
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:00:00 -
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these threads are always entertaining. see they prepare for these things with the disclaimer you agree to which basically says you have no case against them. just move on with your life. if you couldn't see how fail dust was over the last year it's kinda your own fault for buying into something that was obviously going to flop. well now at least you have that awareness for the next beta you play- you will be that much wiser and dev won't pull wool over your eyes so easy with "events" and accelerated SP you will see thru shams easier for now on.
u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll.
forum warrior .189
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Ridire Greine
472
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:04:00 -
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CPM have said that Sony knew about this, they'll have their asses covered, don't expect to get anything but wasted time and effort out of something like this.
They've had months to prepare for this.
Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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BIGRED 4UALL
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:42:00 -
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CCP. Guys you better start doing damage control here. People are pissed. You change the game continuously not really making anything stable. Now you have tricked people into buying items for them not to work 2 months later. Plus you have mislead people into buying into your product just to drop the game and run. CCP you have just started a criminal act. You better do some damage control.
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Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
868
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:46:00 -
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Lycuo wrote:Well i do believe with the announcement of Legion, CCP has admitted to not sustaining a continually growing FPS that interacts with EvE online. This breaking of contractual obligument by CCP is ground for person's who have paid for a game to sustain the growth of the game on a SONY platform to ask for their money back. Also, if so necessary, they may ask for compensation for their time wasted in this same game, which for many is well over 1000 manhours.
So anyone with me on attempting to take on these Icelandic pieces of ****? You might as well sue Infinity Ward for making a sequel to COD - Christ this collective temper tantrum is annoying. |
Louis Domi
Pradox One Proficiency V.
259
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:47:00 -
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If it gets me money i'll do it! I wanna make it rain |
Darken-Soul
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1812
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:47:00 -
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JW v Weingarten wrote:Lycuo wrote:Well i do believe with the announcement of Legion, CCP has admitted to not sustaining a continually growing FPS that interacts with EvE online. This breaking of contractual obligument by CCP is ground for person's who have paid for a game to sustain the growth of the game on a SONY platform to ask for their money back. Also, if so necessary, they may ask for compensation for their time wasted in this same game, which for many is well over 1000 manhours.
So anyone with me on attempting to take on these Icelandic pieces of ****? I am going to guess and say you are an American
The rest of the world just bends over.
Who wants some?
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Archbot
W a r F o r g e d
152
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:47:00 -
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Childish.
Ya¦Åu-Å Å-ÅGèéGäîGä¦Gä¦Gä¦-ìY
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Pvt Numnutz
R 0 N 1 N
1182
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:49:00 -
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Ariadne Rayne wrote:JW v Weingarten wrote:Lycuo wrote:Well i do believe with the announcement of Legion, CCP has admitted to not sustaining a continually growing FPS that interacts with EvE online. This breaking of contractual obligument by CCP is ground for person's who have paid for a game to sustain the growth of the game on a SONY platform to ask for their money back. Also, if so necessary, they may ask for compensation for their time wasted in this same game, which for many is well over 1000 manhours.
So anyone with me on attempting to take on these Icelandic pieces of ****? I am going to guess and say you are an American What the hell is that supposed to mean? I'm American to and I think this is a dumb idea. You want to take that nationalist BS somewhere else? "Dumb muricans" yeah, sure sure, heard that a lot, move on. It means Americans sue for the stupidest reasons. I'm an american and I don't lie about what goes on here. Hell a woman where I live got 2 million dollars from a lawsuit by spilling McDonalds coffee on her lap at the drive through! If anyone would sue it would be an american. |
BIGRED 4UALL
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:50:00 -
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To quote all you guys that are saying EULA this and not going to get your money back. Well you guys are sorrily mistaken. Federal or international law dictates when in court if a law is broken the contract or agreement that you signs becomes null and void if I repeat if a criminal law is broken. And sorry CCP the con that you guys have pulled off is breaking the law here in both Canada and the united states of America. I really hope for your guys sake that this is a bump in the road cause its going to get very messy. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1399
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:51:00 -
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Lycuo wrote:Well i do believe with the announcement of Legion, CCP has admitted to not sustaining a continually growing FPS that interacts with EvE online. This breaking of contractual obligument by CCP is ground for person's who have paid for a game to sustain the growth of the game on a SONY platform to ask for their money back. Also, if so necessary, they may ask for compensation for their time wasted in this same game, which for many is well over 1000 manhours.
So anyone with me on attempting to take on these Icelandic pieces of ****? Join in game chanel protest fest
I <3 girl gamers
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
303
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Posted - 2014.05.03 01:23:00 -
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Aurra Field wrote:hahahahahahahhhaha
That's exactly what I said a year ago when someone stole from C0ven alliance 4 Titans, and they were so pissed off that they handing the case to the Polish prosecutor's office(yea). Actually there wasn't a guy in New Eden that would not laugh from them.. In less than 24h Polish media know about this 'event'. A few days later CCP responded to it - pass/logins to Titans had something like 4-6 peoples, one of them stole Titans by using his new IP address, so from log perspective he was looking like virtual theft, CCP ban him, return 3 Titans and cash for last one that was already sold.
So: - Darknes of New Eden is PR BS, - Icelandic law or EULA doesn't really count compare to your own country law, and if you think that you have winning case you probably do have winning case..
I'm here since may 2012, my EVE alter ego is Nosum Hseebnrido.
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
525
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Posted - 2014.05.03 01:32:00 -
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I am al go bro.
War never changes
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waistr
DEAD-MEN-WALKING
180
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Posted - 2014.05.03 01:32:00 -
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this is a dumb thread im moving on |
LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
542
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Posted - 2014.05.03 01:35:00 -
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Don't worry, more than likely I will be filing complaints with the FTC and FCC due to false and misleading advertising, especially from the last several weeks. No, CCP may not be based here in the US, but they have to have certain licenses to run servers over here and have transactions with residents.
Now a very angry and Bitter Vet. CCP, you have further solidified my views that corporations are corrupt POS's.
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Scrub Zero
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
309
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:53:00 -
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MANY games have been sued (and won) for MUCH less!
Heres the problem, in order to sue someone, they MUST live in the same country. Unless your willing to go to Iceland, and file there. CCP has cut all ties with USA development.
Here is what you CAN do, For free!
File complaints with Federal trade commission, and your Attorney general. If enough complaints are filed, ACTION WILL be taken.
What CCP did, is ILLEGAL! The whole thing was a ponzi scheme. They will NOT get away with it.
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LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
576
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:05:00 -
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Scrub Zero wrote:MANY games have been sued (and won) for MUCH less!
Heres the problem, in order to sue someone, they MUST live in the same country. Unless your willing to go to Iceland, and file there. CCP has cut all ties with USA development.
Here is what you CAN do, For free!
File complaints with Federal trade commission, and your Attorney general. If enough complaints are filed, ACTION WILL be taken.
What CCP did, is ILLEGAL! The whole thing was a ponzi scheme. They will NOT get away with it.
This is basically how I equate this recent ordeal. CCP and Dust is almost identical to a corporation with shareholders. The difference is the shareholders in here are those who purchase in game items such as boosters and other things. Just like when buying stocks, there's no option which says you have to or are forced. Same goes for Dust.
However, people willingly invested in this game based upon CCP's roadmap and projections of Dust for the future, especially within the last month. Just like with a corporation, people take a look at management and earnings reports, and company futures, and decide whether they want to invest.
Basically what CCP did here is identical to what we saw with Enron, except on a much smaller scale. They told the investors one thing, and did the exact opposite. They provided false projections of the game's future. To make the analogy more clear, just like Enron reported and told investors they were receiving record profits while hiding losses in offshore accounts, CCP did the same thing with Dust development.
Instead of telling the player base of the plans to implement everything that we wanted into Dust 514, such as a player market, PvE, and a better interface but those things were not doable on the PS3 (which the majority of people in here already widely accepted), they gave a false overlay of their plans. This wouldn't have even been so bad, but this whole time, even while they encouraged people to buy boosters and stack SP these last two months, they were fully working on Legion already.
Now what do you call that? I call it blatant lies. You told the player base one thing and did another. And just like Enron when they told people to buy stocks due to falsely inflated profit margins from hiding losses offshore, you actively ENCOURAGED people to invest in Dust even though this was the end of it and people's characters would immediately become useless.
Now a very angry and Bitter Vet. CCP, you have further solidified my views that corporations are corrupt POS's.
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Universal Decimator
Interstellar Legionnaires
25
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:12:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:Don't worry, more than likely I will be filing complaints with the FTC and FCC due to false and misleading advertising, especially from the last several weeks. No, CCP may not be based here in the US, but they have to have certain licenses to run servers over here and have transactions with residents.
Very good idea !!! Be sure to include SONY playstation as well. They should give a refund for the aurum pack they sold over the playstation network, but they will not. |
Universal Decimator
Interstellar Legionnaires
25
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:14:00 -
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Lycuo wrote:Who cares if im american...
Hate us if you want but we will get our money back...
Sorry you europeans dont know how to get **** done?
You are the man ! I should have joined your corp. ! |
X7 lion
SWAMPERIUM
193
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:21:00 -
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if this is about money spent, you need to lern what you spent it on in the first place LOL
Immortality will not protect you from me. I am death incarnate, you will die.
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Vance Alken
Commando Perkone Caldari State
123
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:22:00 -
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Scrub Zero wrote:MANY games have been sued (and won) for MUCH less!
Heres the problem, in order to sue someone, they MUST live in the same country. Unless your willing to go to Iceland, and file there. CCP has cut all ties with USA development.
Here is what you CAN do, For free!
File complaints with Federal trade commission, and your Attorney general. If enough complaints are filed, ACTION WILL be taken.
What CCP did, is ILLEGAL! The whole thing was a ponzi scheme. They will NOT get away with it.
Name one, I dare you. A quick search gives me a list of companies suing each other, athletes suing companies for likeness, and one who sued a customer and won. (I give you 3 guesses as to which company, the first two don't count)
also >ponzi scheme |
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
5125
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:30:00 -
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Lycuo wrote:Well i do believe with the announcement of Legion, CCP has admitted to not sustaining a continually growing FPS that interacts with EvE online. This breaking of contractual obligument by CCP is ground for person's who have paid for a game to sustain the growth of the game on a SONY platform to ask for their money back. Also, if so necessary, they may ask for compensation for their time wasted in this same game, which for many is well over 1000 manhours.
So anyone with me on attempting to take on these Icelandic pieces of ****? Good luck forming a "class".
It's harder than it sounds.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
576
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:34:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Lycuo wrote:Well i do believe with the announcement of Legion, CCP has admitted to not sustaining a continually growing FPS that interacts with EvE online. This breaking of contractual obligument by CCP is ground for person's who have paid for a game to sustain the growth of the game on a SONY platform to ask for their money back. Also, if so necessary, they may ask for compensation for their time wasted in this same game, which for many is well over 1000 manhours.
So anyone with me on attempting to take on these Icelandic pieces of ****? Good luck forming a "class". It's harder than it sounds.
Very true Mobius. Doing that will require a large amount of people willing to sign on, and often involves many or all of them sharing or somehow splitting the legal fees, plus a judge has to approve it. When it comes to time compensation, this would be a little more difficult in this scenario as the courts would view this as something which was not mandatory and an activity of enjoyment. It's not like it would be someone suing for something that was essential, such as insurance or banking which did not adhere to contracts. If anything, people would only be able to gain partial or total refunds.
Now a very angry and Bitter Vet. CCP, you have further solidified my views that corporations are corrupt POS's.
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
5126
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:40:00 -
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LEHON Xeon wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Lycuo wrote:Well i do believe with the announcement of Legion, CCP has admitted to not sustaining a continually growing FPS that interacts with EvE online. This breaking of contractual obligument by CCP is ground for person's who have paid for a game to sustain the growth of the game on a SONY platform to ask for their money back. Also, if so necessary, they may ask for compensation for their time wasted in this same game, which for many is well over 1000 manhours.
So anyone with me on attempting to take on these Icelandic pieces of ****? Good luck forming a "class". It's harder than it sounds. Very true Mobius. Doing that will require a large amount of people willing to sign on, and often involves many or all of them sharing or somehow splitting the legal fees, plus a judge has to approve it. When it comes to time compensation, this would be a little more difficult in this scenario as the courts would view this as something which was not mandatory and an activity of enjoyment. It's not like it would be someone suing for something that was essential, such as insurance or banking which did not adhere to contracts. If anything, people would only be able to gain partial or total refunds. And the total amount "won" by such a trial could end up being a lump sum distributed evenly to all participants in the suit.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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LEHON Xeon
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
578
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:51:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:LEHON Xeon wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Lycuo wrote:Well i do believe with the announcement of Legion, CCP has admitted to not sustaining a continually growing FPS that interacts with EvE online. This breaking of contractual obligument by CCP is ground for person's who have paid for a game to sustain the growth of the game on a SONY platform to ask for their money back. Also, if so necessary, they may ask for compensation for their time wasted in this same game, which for many is well over 1000 manhours.
So anyone with me on attempting to take on these Icelandic pieces of ****? Good luck forming a "class". It's harder than it sounds. Very true Mobius. Doing that will require a large amount of people willing to sign on, and often involves many or all of them sharing or somehow splitting the legal fees, plus a judge has to approve it. When it comes to time compensation, this would be a little more difficult in this scenario as the courts would view this as something which was not mandatory and an activity of enjoyment. It's not like it would be someone suing for something that was essential, such as insurance or banking which did not adhere to contracts. If anything, people would only be able to gain partial or total refunds. And the total amount "won" by such a trial could end up being a lump sum distributed evenly to all participants in the suit.
Yep, had that happen awhile ago from our bank with overdraft charges (which we actually never had). They charged exorbitant fees to account holders and then got sued. We got a whole big total of $8.76 lol.
Now a very angry and Bitter Vet. CCP, you have further solidified my views that corporations are corrupt POS's.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2195
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:54:00 -
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Lycuo wrote:Well i do believe with the announcement of Legion, CCP has admitted to not sustaining a continually growing FPS that interacts with EvE online. This breaking of contractual obligument by CCP is ground for person's who have paid for a game to sustain the growth of the game on a SONY platform to ask for their money back. Also, if so necessary, they may ask for compensation for their time wasted in this same game, which for many is well over 1000 manhours.
So anyone with me on attempting to take on these Icelandic pieces of ****? Lol! Why don't you keep us updated on your progress. |
Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
144
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Posted - 2014.05.03 06:24:00 -
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You paid for Dust stuff, you got Dust stuff. This **** won't hold up in court.
You're welcome to try, though.
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
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nick ctx
Wychwood and Wells Beer needs you
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:41:00 -
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I have not spent any money on Dust 514 so that counts me out of any class action |
Leanna Boghin
B.O.D.A.S
68
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:49:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Just stop... It won't happen. We need to acknowledge we got taken in by a smooth sounding con man and we lost our money.
Let's all learn to not get in the strange van with the man who offers candy... You have no balls and you apparently are more than willing to just let a game company walk all over you. Hell im willing to bet your more than willing to just hand over your credit card to them even after what they did. CCP needs to understand that instead of telling us what they were doing they took our cash our info and went behind our backs and started work on a "GENERIC" version of Dust 514. This is a bait and switch and false advertisment. People were misled by CCP with the promise of continued expansion and improvement to Dust514 into buying more and more goodies. Then all of a sudden boom they are being told they are no longer important. CCP should be sued for what they did and i will stand alone if i have to against them because people like you have no balls to do so.
I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
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Leanna Boghin
B.O.D.A.S
69
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Posted - 2014.05.03 18:51:00 -
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Of course i dont expect this thread to stay here very long hell they will probably delete it and start banning anyone that talks about sueing them. But CCP does need to realize that the longer they keep quiet about whats gonna happen with Dust 514 the MORE people are gonna get pissed off and want to sue them for misleading them. They need to make a response and tell everyone whether or not Dust 514 has a future or not. Other wise people are going to start filing massive amounts of paperwork.
I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
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