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I know that cloaks are supposed to be that "hidden weapon" for scouts, since they tend to have low armor and whatnot, but there is a serious design flaw that I would like to point out. There are, in fact, scouts who have 500 armor and high shields, in addition to the ability to add a cloak. Slap a shotgun onto that and this dropsuit will be used very frequently in public games. (Which is ongoing).

Furthermore, I would like to add that most of the players on Dust 514 are very veteran-like. Therefore, this leads many of the players in public and factional games to have advanced or proto suits. Yeah, and these suits are pretty powerful. So already, the new players are faced and matched up against highly-experienced, no life players. No offence, but its true. CCP, you might be scaring away all the new players (including me) with an established community that has access to considerably strong equipment.

Please re-evaluate the "most-complained items" in-game. You guys do work hard, but you could also draw some experience from other FPS games so far..

For example, an ACR or ballistic vest in Call of Duty doesn't make you a super-player. It seems to me that time spent playing is rewarded with over-the-top items. Perhaps find another way to reward these players?

Thank you and I hope I did not offend.

Vect-r

I know that cloaks are supposed to be that "hidden weapon" for scouts, since they tend to have low armor and whatnot, but there is a serious design flaw that I would like to point out. There are, in fact, scouts who have 500 armor and high shields, in addition to the ability to add a cloak. Slap a shotgun onto that and this dropsuit will be used very frequently in public games. (Which is ongoing).

Furthermore, I would like to add that most of the players on Dust 514 are very veteran-like. Therefore, this leads many of the players in public and factional games to have advanced or proto suits. Yeah, and these suits are pretty powerful. So already, the new players are faced and matched up against highly-experienced, no life players. No offence, but its true. CCP, you might be scaring away all the new players (including me) with an established community that has access to considerably strong equipment.

Please re-evaluate the "most-complained items" in-game. You guys do work hard, but you could also draw some experience from other FPS games so far..

For example, an ACR or ballistic vest in Call of Duty doesn't make you a super-player. It seems to me that time spent playing is rewarded with over-the-top items. Perhaps find another way to reward these players?

Thank you and I hope I did not offend.

Vect-r

Shut up, this guy isn't the average COD scrub that talks with 50% yo mama jokes.
He doesn't deserve to be made fun of for pointing out the truth.

no life player.

I know that cloaks are supposed to be that "hidden weapon" for scouts, since they tend to have low armor and whatnot, but there is a serious design flaw that I would like to point out. There are, in fact, scouts who have 500 armor and high shields, in addition to the ability to add a cloak. Slap a shotgun onto that and this dropsuit will be used very frequently in public games. (Which is ongoing).

Furthermore, I would like to add that most of the players on Dust 514 are very veteran-like. Therefore, this leads many of the players in public and factional games to have advanced or proto suits. Yeah, and these suits are pretty powerful. So already, the new players are faced and matched up against highly-experienced, no life players. No offence, but its true. CCP, you might be scaring away all the new players (including me) with an established community that has access to considerably strong equipment.

Please re-evaluate the "most-complained items" in-game. You guys do work hard, but you could also draw some experience from other FPS games so far..

For example, an ACR or ballistic vest in Call of Duty doesn't make you a super-player. It seems to me that time spent playing is rewarded with over-the-top items. Perhaps find another way to reward these players?

Thank you and I hope I did not offend.

Vect-r

Shut up, this guy isn't the average COD scrub that talks with 50% yo mama jokes.
He doesn't deserve to be made fun of for pointing out the truth.

Vect-r whats your lifetime SP and do you have a mic?

I don't blame the cloak. I blame the shotgun. It's damage needs to be nerfed and it's range should be extended. It's funny the shotguns we have now have a range 10X that of these futuristic ones.. Slugs have an effective range to about 137 meters.

I know that cloaks are supposed to be that "hidden weapon" for scouts, since they tend to have low armor and whatnot, but there is a serious design flaw that I would like to point out. There are, in fact, scouts who have 500 armor and high shields, in addition to the ability to add a cloak. Slap a shotgun onto that and this dropsuit will be used very frequently in public games. (Which is ongoing).

Furthermore, I would like to add that most of the players on Dust 514 are very veteran-like. Therefore, this leads many of the players in public and factional games to have advanced or proto suits. Yeah, and these suits are pretty powerful. So already, the new players are faced and matched up against highly-experienced, no life players. No offence, but its true. CCP, you might be scaring away all the new players (including me) with an established community that has access to considerably strong equipment.

Please re-evaluate the "most-complained items" in-game. You guys do work hard, but you could also draw some experience from other FPS games so far..

For example, an ACR or ballistic vest in Call of Duty doesn't make you a super-player. It seems to me that time spent playing is rewarded with over-the-top items. Perhaps find another way to reward these players?

Thank you and I hope I did not offend.

Vect-r

\_/ <--- Aim your tears in this direction please.

My lifetime SP is just a little over 550,000. I am a super noob: just started three days ago. But, I have played much CoD and BF3, among other FPS. Still wouldn't say I'm MLG though. Yeah, I have a mic. Wanna team up?

I know that cloaks are supposed to be that "hidden weapon" for scouts, since they tend to have low armor and whatnot, but there is a serious design flaw that I would like to point out. There are, in fact, scouts who have 500 armor and high shields, in addition to the ability to add a cloak. Slap a shotgun onto that and this dropsuit will be used very frequently in public games. (Which is ongoing).

Furthermore, I would like to add that most of the players on Dust 514 are very veteran-like. Therefore, this leads many of the players in public and factional games to have advanced or proto suits. Yeah, and these suits are pretty powerful. So already, the new players are faced and matched up against highly-experienced, no life players. No offence, but its true. CCP, you might be scaring away all the new players (including me) with an established community that has access to considerably strong equipment.

Please re-evaluate the "most-complained items" in-game. You guys do work hard, but you could also draw some experience from other FPS games so far..

For example, an ACR or ballistic vest in Call of Duty doesn't make you a super-player. It seems to me that time spent playing is rewarded with over-the-top items. Perhaps find another way to reward these players?

Thank you and I hope I did not offend.

Vect-r

\_/ <--- Aim your tears in this direction please.

I stopped at cod and over the top equipment.There is nothing in dust that is even over the top compared to cod.As for new players this is not cod /you cant compare twitch shooter blitz mess to dust.This is one of the reason new players have a hard time.Moving form an arcade game to a tactical shooter mmo is a big jump.Cod is designed to give everyone an A game by nullification of player skills so everyone is equal.Dust is not just a shooter its an mmo where player time is just as important as good reflexes(not much with AA).

How skillful would you feel if you got a handicap against a vet?Why would you want to play a game you can't advance in?There's only minor balance issue but there is no over the top gear.welcome to dust514 skill is involved with gameplay.

Does it have enough room?! Quickly fetch another!

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INow I say this as a Ck.0 scout on this character - I know they *can* be countered... sometimes, but for many dropsuit variants there's just no real response to packs of scouts roving around with shotguns / ACR's / ARR's.

The issue isn't that cloaks are overpowered, though possibly they need the decloak speed reduced to prevent them being used for head on assaults.

I believe the issues are two-fold.

Firstly, the main problem is there isn't enough separation between veteran players and new players. Proto suits, whilst powerful, are balanced by their cost. The trouble is there are a lot of very good veteran players, with great knowledge, passive skills and suit versatility, who often play in tight knit organized groups, going up against new low sp players. Many of these players are so rich, for various reasons, that they don't even have to think about using proto gear. Also they can stomp thier opponents so hard they don't even have to worry about dieing and paying for expensive suits. There needs to be more than just matchmaking. There needs to be more (or just improved) game modes that keep veteran players away from newbies.

Secondly, regarding cloaks:
Why are they limited to high sp scouts? I said this when the new skills were announced. A new player should be able to put one point in scouts, one point in cloaks and happily make a decent scout fit. Limiting it to players with 4 or 5 levels in scout suits is too elitist. It's not that cloaking is overpowered, it's the fact the whole play style is unavailable to new players that makes it feel unfair and puts off new players.

To counter your argument, this would mean that most veteran players (who you say to have high-level equipment from investing large amounts of time) would be dominant against newer, under-equipped soldiers. Paying to gain a "tactical" advantage to having the most OP load out; is this the environment in DUST that you want?

Furthermore, do you really want to spend another 60+ hours and get the skill points required to kill that Protosuit player who harasses you as you've just started DUST? Maybe I didn't emphasize this, but I don't like Call of Duty: there are aspects that I do not like, such as you said "the twitch shooter blitz" repetitiveness. But at least Call of Duty gives newer players a fighting chance at toppling the vet players.

I hope I have made my point crystal clear.