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Zirzo Valcyn wrote:

Charon B wrote:

Rizlax Yazzax wrote:

I get that tanks in Ambush are a huge problem at the moment and ruin people's day.

What I don't get it is why people complain so much but still play (could be extended to the whole game).

If Ambush is that hellish for you, choose another game mode. Since 1.7 dropped I haven't played a single one, purely for the reasons that have been stated. There are two other game modes to choose from.

If the defence is that you only like deathmatch style play with no vehicles, then WTF are you doing playing DUST? There are plenty of other games out there that have just that.

Yes it needs fixing. Yes CCP are aware. Until the issue is solved, stop feeding the tankers your clones and choose another game mode. Hell, choose another game if you have to.

Quite frankly, we play because we have been playing since the beginning. We want balance, and we are stating how to bring it. Tanks are in all modes, and they are problems there to an extent. What I don't get, is why some people like to take it lying on their backs and not let CCP know. Even if they don't listen, at least we try.

some of us man up and take the tanks on instead of "letting CCP know" aka crying about it here

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NAMELESS III SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 17	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:26:00 - [1] - Quote After playing ambush since (1.7) it is categorically unequivocal that the new foundation of vehicle's has had a detrimental affect to the game-play of Dust514. And trying to adjust to the new vehicle's is not entirely the best way to go, nor is it fair and or helpful to its own end (in respect of new players). For example, the degree of difficulty required to take down "GP MACHINE & MILKMAN" or "DUNA2002 & CO" is too demanding a task in an ambush; the balance is precarious at best, most people do not have the time to set up a good defence or call anything in. If you take some of the best tankers in the game along with you like ( CLOAK WOLF RIDER, ALPHAASPIKE2000 & CHARON B) plus some Proto Forge Guns, its no guarantee that you have the latter mentioned tankers and tankers like them under control because, you just don't have the time and space requisite that you have in the other game modes, ergo most accomplished corp&thankers exploit the game-mechanics, accentually doing what I call (MAP FARMING) or killing everybody over and over with little chance of egress. Assault vehicle's in ambush mode are over powered and makes the game mode unfair, all Noobs die and Vets can barely hold their-own, this most stop for the sake of "Dust" (noobs don't want to play the game); my squad is in the squad finder daily and is open to all. Transportation vehicle's only, seems like an easy fix for ambush mode? Most other "First Person Shooters's" don't have this issue. [CCP help!] Save us from these brainless tanker-morons most of us only have guns whatever will they do in a game mode with no TANKS???.
AL TheShow L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:30:00 - [2] - Quote keep the tanks to skirm or make another game mode. either way i totally agree. tank spam in a ambush or dom is just senseless!
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 216	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:43:00 - [3] - Quote I get that tanks in Ambush are a huge problem at the moment and ruin people's day. What I don't get it is why people complain so much but still play (could be extended to the whole game). If Ambush is that hellish for you, choose another game mode. Since 1.7 dropped I haven't played a single one, purely for the reasons that have been stated. There are two other game modes to choose from. If the defence is that you only like deathmatch style play with no vehicles, then WTF are you doing playing DUST? There are plenty of other games out there that have just that. Yes it needs fixing. Yes CCP are aware. Until the issue is solved, stop feeding the tankers your clones and choose another game mode. Hell, choose another game if you have to.
Charon B Shadow Hawks of Orion 7	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:27:00 - [4] - Quote Rizlax Yazzax wrote: I get that tanks in Ambush are a huge problem at the moment and ruin people's day. What I don't get it is why people complain so much but still play (could be extended to the whole game). If Ambush is that hellish for you, choose another game mode. Since 1.7 dropped I haven't played a single one, purely for the reasons that have been stated. There are two other game modes to choose from. If the defence is that you only like deathmatch style play with no vehicles, then WTF are you doing playing DUST? There are plenty of other games out there that have just that. Yes it needs fixing. Yes CCP are aware. Until the issue is solved, stop feeding the tankers your clones and choose another game mode. Hell, choose another game if you have to. Quite frankly, we play because we have been playing since the beginning. We want balance, and we are stating how to bring it. Tanks are in all modes, and they are problems there to an extent. What I don't get, is why some people like to take it lying on their backs and not let CCP know. Even if they don't listen, at least we try. Shadow Hawks of Orion CEO
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 503	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:32:00 - [5] - Quote kinda ironic a sver is complaining about vehicles u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Charon B Shadow Hawks of Orion 7	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:36:00 - [6] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: kinda ironic a sver is complaining about vehicles Do you have any useful feedback? Shadow Hawks of Orion CEO
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 503	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:39:00 - [7] - Quote Charon B wrote: Zirzo Valcyn wrote: kinda ironic a sver is complaining about vehicles Do you have any useful feedback? yes. only scrubs cry about 2 tanks per ambush u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 503	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:43:00 - [8] - Quote Charon B wrote: Rizlax Yazzax wrote: I get that tanks in Ambush are a huge problem at the moment and ruin people's day. What I don't get it is why people complain so much but still play (could be extended to the whole game). If Ambush is that hellish for you, choose another game mode. Since 1.7 dropped I haven't played a single one, purely for the reasons that have been stated. There are two other game modes to choose from. If the defence is that you only like deathmatch style play with no vehicles, then WTF are you doing playing DUST? There are plenty of other games out there that have just that. Yes it needs fixing. Yes CCP are aware. Until the issue is solved, stop feeding the tankers your clones and choose another game mode. Hell, choose another game if you have to. Quite frankly, we play because we have been playing since the beginning. We want balance, and we are stating how to bring it. Tanks are in all modes, and they are problems there to an extent. What I don't get, is why some people like to take it lying on their backs and not let CCP know. Even if they don't listen, at least we try. some of us man up and take the tanks on instead of "letting CCP know" aka crying about it here u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2783	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:14:00 - [9] - Quote I've actually been enjoying ambush lately. I agree that it was broken and completely unplayable in 1.7, but with the new 2 vehicle rule it can be pretty decent. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
NAMELESS III SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 18	Posted - 2014.05.01 17:55:00 - [10] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: I've actually been enjoying ambush lately. I agree that it was broken and completely unplayable in 1.7, but with the new 2 vehicle rule it can be pretty decent. You are the kinda guy that talks a hole lot of good stuff but when it comes to fighting an accomplished tanker with friends you leave the battle or just don't play properly.

Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 96	Posted - 2014.05.01 17:58:00 - [11] - Quote Rizlax Yazzax wrote: I get that tanks in Ambush are a huge problem at the moment and ruin people's day. What I don't get it is why people complain so much but still play (could be extended to the whole game). If Ambush is that hellish for you, choose another game mode. Since 1.7 dropped I haven't played a single one, purely for the reasons that have been stated. There are two other game modes to choose from. If the defence is that you only like deathmatch style play with no vehicles, then WTF are you doing playing DUST? There are plenty of other games out there that have just that. Yes it needs fixing. Yes CCP are aware. Until the issue is solved, stop feeding the tankers your clones and choose another game mode. Hell, choose another game if you have to. You are a loser man.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1275	Posted - 2014.05.01 18:06:00 - [12] - Quote This has already been addressed with the two vehicle limit. If you only play Ambush you must be a CoD player, in New Eden you will have to HTFU. And so it goes.
NAMELESS III SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 18	Posted - 2014.05.01 18:13:00 - [13] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: Charon B wrote: Zirzo Valcyn wrote: kinda ironic a sver is complaining about vehicles Do you have any useful feedback? yes. only scrubs cry about 2 tanks per ambush I am not complaining about vehicle's, scouts or REs, I am just pointing out that it is completely and totally unfair. I play from down time to down time, I play ambush enough to know that you are nobody on the ambush circuit. PS: would love to see you try to take down DUNA2002 or GP MACHINE lol, I give it a go at least once a day.
Riptalis Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 14	Posted - 2014.05.01 18:22:00 - [14] - Quote NAMELESS III wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: I've actually been enjoying ambush lately. I agree that it was broken and completely unplayable in 1.7, but with the new 2 vehicle rule it can be pretty decent. You are the kinda guy that talks a hole lot of good stuff but when it comes to fighting an accomplished tanker with friends you leave the battle or just don't play properly. I do that, but I leave sometimes because I don't want to put up with op tanks and corporations that run proto scout and proto combat rifle all the time! As soon as the game starts they're already killing a ton. Quite annoying really but what can I do? Leave and be called a wuss, like if that's really necessary or use militia until I get 0-8 or worse. At least a seperate game mode without ANY vehicles and fix "******** deploy".
NAMELESS III SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 20	Posted - 2014.05.01 18:24:00 - [15] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: This has already been addressed with the two vehicle limit. If you only play Ambush you must be a CoD player, in New Eden you will have to HTFU. Hate Call of Duty with a passion. Try again young man. PS: poped GP, MILK & DUNA yesterday. My point is, its too difficult in ambush, not impossible just not worth it in any way shape of form. You need to be rich to fight them for one, not to mention a hole host of other problems that only concern VETs.
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 506	Posted - 2014.05.01 18:45:00 - [16] - Quote NAMELESS III wrote: Zirzo Valcyn wrote: Charon B wrote: Zirzo Valcyn wrote: kinda ironic a sver is complaining about vehicles Do you have any useful feedback? yes. only scrubs cry about 2 tanks per ambush I am not complaining about vehicle's, scouts or REs, I am just pointing out that it is completely and totally unfair. I play from down time to down time, I play ambush enough to know that you are nobody on the ambush circuit. PS: would love to see you try to take down DUNA2002 or GP MACHINE lol, I give it a go at least once a day. point taken but the fact is CCP won't remove tanks because it will hurt arrum sales to have tankless matches where everyones happy, if no ones butthurt there's no arrum being sold. it's messed up but that's the reality of it i would like to see limited matches but it's not the reality of this game. i actually enjoy ambush now with the 2 vehicle limit but i'm not claiming to be a hardcore ambush player i stopped playing that crap when they changed the spawning to be some kind of quasifootball game spawn system because this community couldn't handle a classic TDM. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Jenova Rhapsodos Fatal Absolution 452	Posted - 2014.05.01 18:49:00 - [17] - Quote The 2 tank rule was a definite step forward. But questionable map design and spawns make ambush a terrible choice unless you have a squad stacked with badasses. The Scrambler Rifle is dead, long live the Scrambler Rifle!
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 501	Posted - 2014.05.01 18:55:00 - [18] - Quote they could just fix it by expanding the map to have 2 of the large compounds and 2 full set of smaler si, also making use of the road networks already built into the map and raising the clone count aswell as doubling the player count. tanks wont be an issue if we have more ground to fight over and more players fighting
Rizlax Yazzax Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 221	Posted - 2014.05.01 19:00:00 - [19] - Quote Enki Kalgarian wrote: Rizlax Yazzax wrote: I get that tanks in Ambush are a huge problem at the moment and ruin people's day. What I don't get it is why people complain so much but still play (could be extended to the whole game). If Ambush is that hellish for you, choose another game mode. Since 1.7 dropped I haven't played a single one, purely for the reasons that have been stated. There are two other game modes to choose from. If the defence is that you only like deathmatch style play with no vehicles, then WTF are you doing playing DUST? There are plenty of other games out there that have just that. Yes it needs fixing. Yes CCP are aware. Until the issue is solved, stop feeding the tankers your clones and choose another game mode. Hell, choose another game if you have to. You must be a tanker. Right.......I'm a tanker telling people to stop feeding tanks their bodies and stay away from the number one game mode for said tanks . Pure infantry if you must know, bar LAV/DS to get somewhere fast.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 570	Posted - 2014.05.01 19:01:00 - [20] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: Charon B wrote: Rizlax Yazzax wrote: I get that tanks in Ambush are a huge problem at the moment and ruin people's day. What I don't get it is why people complain so much but still play (could be extended to the whole game). If Ambush is that hellish for you, choose another game mode. Since 1.7 dropped I haven't played a single one, purely for the reasons that have been stated. There are two other game modes to choose from. If the defence is that you only like deathmatch style play with no vehicles, then WTF are you doing playing DUST? There are plenty of other games out there that have just that. Yes it needs fixing. Yes CCP are aware. Until the issue is solved, stop feeding the tankers your clones and choose another game mode. Hell, choose another game if you have to. Quite frankly, we play because we have been playing since the beginning. We want balance, and we are stating how to bring it. Tanks are in all modes, and they are problems there to an extent. What I don't get, is why some people like to take it lying on their backs and not let CCP know. Even if they don't listen, at least we try. some of us man up and take the tanks on instead of "letting CCP know" aka crying about it here What is the difference between crying about tanks here and crying about crying about tanks? If the first isn't useful the second is downright asinine. Because, that's why.

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 3554	Posted - 2014.05.01 19:02:00 - [21] - Quote STB the original tank stompers in ambush crying about tanks stomping in ambush lol Its only 2 tanks
ratamaq doc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 599	Posted - 2014.05.01 19:05:00 - [22] - Quote I don't know what to think of this any more. I have a lot of fun in ambush taking down tanks when I'm in the mood to take down tanks, but most of the time if I'm in ambush it's because I'm either trying to get a few games in before downtime, waiting for a squad to open up, or grinding out ISK. I have to be in a proper mind set to go into an Ambush for the sole purpose of putting tanks in their place. Its much more stressful because of the Risk Reward spread. What's Hard is getting others to join me on when I'm on Safari. Maybe we can fix that? Is there an AV Channel that anyone is aware of? A channel for specialized Infantry AV users that can sync/squad up for the purpose of collecting tanker heads for taxidermy? I would spend a good amount of time in that channel for sure. YouTube
Enki Kalgarian Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 96	Posted - 2014.05.01 19:05:00 - [23] - Quote Rizlax Yazzax wrote: Enki Kalgarian wrote: Rizlax Yazzax wrote: I get that tanks in Ambush are a huge problem at the moment and ruin people's day. What I don't get it is why people complain so much but still play (could be extended to the whole game). If Ambush is that hellish for you, choose another game mode. Since 1.7 dropped I haven't played a single one, purely for the reasons that have been stated. There are two other game modes to choose from. If the defence is that you only like deathmatch style play with no vehicles, then WTF are you doing playing DUST? There are plenty of other games out there that have just that. Yes it needs fixing. Yes CCP are aware. Until the issue is solved, stop feeding the tankers your clones and choose another game mode. Hell, choose another game if you have to. You must be a tanker. Right.......I'm a tanker telling people to stop feeding tanks their bodies and stay away from the number one game mode for said tanks . Pure infantry if you must know, bar LAV/DS to get somewhere fast. Go play tanks online.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 570	Posted - 2014.05.01 19:05:00 - [24] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: I've actually been enjoying ambush lately. I agree that it was broken and completely unplayable in 1.7, but with the new 2 vehicle rule it can be pretty decent. I agree. NS make it hard when they are squadded up in it but I play ambush more than anything now. I wish I could find a squad that would play solid AV so we could maybe make them pay. We'll lose and it will cost, but if we can cost them more it is worth it. Because, that's why.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 570	Posted - 2014.05.01 19:08:00 - [25] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: I don't know what to think of this any more. I have a lot of fun in ambush taking down tanks when I'm in the mood to take down tanks, but most of the time if I'm in ambush it's because I'm either trying to get a few games in before downtime, waiting for a squad to open up, or grinding out ISK. I have to be in a proper mind set to go into an Ambush for the sole purpose of putting tanks in their place. Its much more stressful because of the Risk Reward spread. What's Hard is getting others to join me on when I'm on Safari. Maybe we can fix that? Is there an AV Channel that anyone is aware of? A channel for specialized Infantry AV users that can sync/squad up for the purpose of collecting tanker heads for taxidermy? I would spend a good amount of time in that channel for sure. I didn't see this post before I posted. I don't know of one but if you make one or see one let me know. Because, that's why.
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 1736	Posted - 2014.05.01 19:12:00 - [26] - Quote Jenova Rhapsodos wrote: The 2 tank rule was a definite step forward. But questionable map design and spawns make ambush a terrible choice unless you have a squad stacked with badasses. It's really unfortunate there are so few maps they cannot even remove the worst offenders. The problem wouldn't be solved but at least lessened. At this point nothing short of terrain dense maps with plenty of indoor options will help. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
NAMELESS III SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 25	Posted - 2014.05.01 19:15:00 - [27] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: I've actually been enjoying ambush lately. I agree that it was broken and completely unplayable in 1.7, but with the new 2 vehicle rule it can be pretty decent. Yes good shout, you philosophical moron...
NAMELESS III SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 25	Posted - 2014.05.01 19:24:00 - [28] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: Jenova Rhapsodos wrote: The 2 tank rule was a definite step forward. But questionable map design and spawns make ambush a terrible choice unless you have a squad stacked with badasses. It's really unfortunate there are so few maps they cannot even remove the worst offenders. The problem wouldn't be solved but at least lessened. At this point nothing short of terrain dense maps with plenty of indoor options will help. Yes yes, yes, this man knows what he is talking about...
NAMELESS III SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 25	Posted - 2014.05.01 20:53:00 - [29] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: kinda ironic a sver is complaining about vehicles ?
CLONE117 True Pros Forever 775	Posted - 2014.05.01 21:03:00 - [30] - Quote tanks are there to help make sure the number of proto scrubs running around doesn't get out of control. sadly it hasnt been a very effective solution to the main issue at hand..its only been moderately successful in certain situations. mlt vets are eternal. they shall be the bane to proto scrubs everywhere...



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