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NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 387	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:19:00 - [1] - Quote After much review, the +50 for incapacitating should be removed. This should then be replace with these two items, +25 Incapacitated +25 Clone Termination You only get the +25 points when the clone is terminated. Also, update the K/D so that the kill doesn't count until your clone is terminated. Simple enough, now get to coding! Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Charon B Shadow Hawks of Orion 7	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:23:00 - [2] - Quote no Shadow Hawks of Orion CEO
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8195	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:44:00 - [3] - Quote Charon B wrote: no Yes Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Carter ATHENE BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:48:00 - [4] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Charon B wrote: no Yes Yes
Mordecai Sanguine What The French Red Whines. 609	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:49:00 - [5] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: After much review, the +50 for incapacitating should be removed. This should then be replace with these two items, +25 Incapacitated +25 Clone Termination You only get the +25 points when the clone is terminated. Also, update the K/D so that the kill doesn't count until your clone is terminated. Simple enough, now get to coding! No, would make the revive even harder since everybody would watch if the clone is terminated.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 388	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:52:00 - [6] - Quote Yes Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Carter ATHENE BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2014.04.30 19:53:00 - [7] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: After much review, the +50 for incapacitating should be removed. This should then be replace with these two items, +25 Incapacitated +25 Clone Termination You only get the +25 points when the clone is terminated. Also, update the K/D so that the kill doesn't count until your clone is terminated. Simple enough, now get to coding! No, would make the revive even harder since everybody would watch if the clone is terminated. Since people will completely terminate suits a lot more it will promote cover to cover combat/and overall strategic endowment of the game. Anyone caught out of cover will have an even higher chance of getting terminated. It will also probably remove the some of the noobieness present in the game; bringing it one step closer to the seriousness of awesome. I think it will help reduce the overall clone loss. Maybe, just maybe, it will slightly help against cloak scouts giving a moment to players to survey the area.
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 475	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:18:00 - [8] - Quote I can get behind the purpose of the suggestion, but keep the +50 for incapacitation, and add +10 for termination, since the incapacitation is what takes the bulk of the work. Termination is just frosting the cake.
Cathryn Cyaer Immortal Guides 6	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:26:00 - [9] - Quote I like the idea overall, but I also believe the theory needs a reality check. Theory: The increased priority on terminating clones would promote smarter play. ie: People using cover more intelligently. Reality: 99% of people don't learn and the whole team will probably suffer increased loss of clones as a result. Not trying to be a jerk or anything, it's just that in my experience with many FPSs and MMOs, is that individual people might learn a lesson, but the masses normally don't and end up ruining it for those that do.
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 43	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:31:00 - [10] - Quote Ummm no and for good reason. Let's say I'm in a fire fight. I down about 4 guys, but I don't terminate them. I go to reload and some scrub throws a grenade and terminates them all. Now if he is in my squad, I don't worry about it. However I love dropping OBs on people and that is 100 potential points my squad loses. I do agree that there needs to be some rewards for termination. However I don't think we should remove the points for downing players. I will accept the removal of the 50 points IF the player that was downed was recently picked up (I'm thinking 10 seconds). This will help resolve the problem with K/D and WP boosting. Come Join the War

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2783	Posted - 2014.04.30 20:59:00 - [11] - Quote I would think that the +25 for termination would only go to the person who got the incapacitation. So, you get +25, wait, no revive, bam another +25. Shouldn't be able to steal half the kill points from someone. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Ander Thedas Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 597	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:02:00 - [12] - Quote Seeing as how terminating a clone takes about as much work as taking out a piece of equipment, why not make it 45/5. Seems far more balanced. Omnia mutantur nihil interit FW lvl10 reward
Aleph Rynedee Science For Death 87	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:08:00 - [13] - Quote TheEnd762 wrote: I can get behind the purpose of the suggestion, but keep the +50 for incapacitation, and add +10 for termination, since the incapacitation is what takes the bulk of the work. Termination is just frosting the cake. That is already in place with the headshot.
Tonka Legacy Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 114	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:36:00 - [14] - Quote wouldn't this make it so everyone shoots at downed bodies to check for points, rendering injectors useless? Sentinel: I am heavy weapons guy... Commando: I got a RR and a CR, Im so good. Logi: In it 4 the points and points only.
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 391	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:41:00 - [15] - Quote The more feedback we are getting the more I like this idea. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 949	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:43:00 - [16] - Quote Is this just a way to avoid revive deaths? It's a solution, I would still prefer revive refusal but anything is a step in the right direction
TheEnd762 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 478	Posted - 2014.04.30 23:38:00 - [17] - Quote Aleph Rynedee wrote: TheEnd762 wrote: I can get behind the purpose of the suggestion, but keep the +50 for incapacitation, and add +10 for termination, since the incapacitation is what takes the bulk of the work. Termination is just frosting the cake. That is already in place with the headshot. Yeah, only if you get both the incapacitation and termination with one headshot. Now that I think about it, if either keep the incapacitation at 50pts, or cut it down to 45pts, and make the termination an additional 5pts, so the total comes out to either 50 or 55. A down + double-tap kill shouldn't be worth as many points as a headshot kill.
Thokk Nightshade Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 109	Posted - 2014.05.01 02:21:00 - [18] - Quote The last part about it not counting against your K/D until termination I am all for. I hate getting kill/revive/killed because a blueberry wants his revive points and having it count twice against me (or 3/4 times in really bad situations). If this only counted once against me, sure. Revive me and I'll take my fighting chance. Not when it's screwing my KDR though.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1424	Posted - 2014.05.01 04:21:00 - [19] - Quote I doubt this would have any affect on gameplay actually. All it would do is boost my KDR until all the scrubs realize they need to clone me out to get a kill. This change while interesting is totally unneeded. Fun > Realism
Marcus Stormfire G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 21	Posted - 2014.05.01 04:36:00 - [20] - Quote Remember kids, always double tap. -Marcus -I don't always kill Mercs with a sidearm, But when I do I use militia.



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