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Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:21:00 -
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Hey Guys,
General Discussion: How do you guys fit your sentinels?
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
769
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:23:00 -
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Step 1 - Delete Sentinel fitting Step 2 - Fit Minmatar Basic Heavy Step 3 - .... Step 4 - PROFIT!
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
1083
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:36:00 -
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DMG mods in the highs and depending on whether or not ive got a rep logi in squad either plates or reps. HMG for the infanrty and breach forge for vehicles
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
3715
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:40:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Step 1 - Delete Sentinel fitting Step 2 - Fit Minmatar Basic Heavy Step 3 - .... Step 4 - PROFIT! Stop trolling, unless step 3 is use glitches i don't see how you could profit of mini heavy.
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Omega Black Zero
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:49:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:G Torq wrote:Step 1 - Delete Sentinel fitting Step 2 - Fit Minmatar Basic Heavy Step 3 - .... Step 4 - PROFIT! Stop trolling, unless step 3 is use glitches i don't see how you could profit of mini heavy. It's like running assault speeds with an HMG. It works great tbh. I've done a 20-0 with minmatar militia hvy with standard HMG, works wonders. |
Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
217
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:52:00 -
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I fit a sentinel amarr basic with:
2x basic shield extenders Basic HMG Militia SMG Basic grenade Basic armor extender Basic armor rep
Total cost: 7.5k
I usually pull off 250k per match
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Sourdough Muffins
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
297
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:52:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Step 1 - Delete Sentinel fitting Step 2 - Fit Minmatar Basic Heavy Step 3 - .... Step 4 - PROFIT!
Not even Minmatar Basic Heavy. Minmatar Militia Heavy rocks with a CR, KinCats, and Extenders. 1022 eHP and sprints 7m/s |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
1083
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Posted - 2014.04.30 06:53:00 -
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Omega Black Zero wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:G Torq wrote:Step 1 - Delete Sentinel fitting Step 2 - Fit Minmatar Basic Heavy Step 3 - .... Step 4 - PROFIT! Stop trolling, unless step 3 is use glitches i don't see how you could profit of mini heavy. It's like running assault speeds with an HMG. It works great tbh. I've done a 20-0 with minmatar militia heavy frame with standard HMG, works wonders. Until an Amarr sentinel rolls around the corner and rips you apart like wet tissue paper
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
908
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:20:00 -
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Oh let me count the ways I love thee GA Sentinel...
I am now running multiple fits to test some theories, that should be viable. Don't yell at me for protostomping, I love using the things I have earned and I play very suicidally, basically drop wherever I see a red dot and try to kill it. Yesterday I singlehandedly tried to win a domination game with 3 equally suiciadal randoms, and 9 snipers/redline hiders.
Yes I went 3-12, but I rejoiced in every kill because they were what you consider elite players.
all proto lows 1) Full plates 2) Full reactives 3) Full reps 4) Full ferros
high *) extender
Then I have 3 of every fit, assault scrambler, assault plasma rifle, assault combat rifle (can't deal with the rail delay)
and then my benchmark take all comers fit,
4 plates, rep, dmg mod and GA assault plasma rifle
To no surprise to anyone I guess (nor mine, I have known since they came out from experience), reactives and ferros are underwhelming at best. I am usually able to get a similar or better result by combining plates and reps, for less cpu/pg. Something that has been pointed out and is already on my list.
I am having a ton of fun with 5 reps. It's pretty badass to duck and hide, and the reload is only a couple of seconds less than a solid refill of armor. Try it out, it may not be viable or isk efficient in the long run but fun.
Now, I reluctantly tried the combat rifle because I don't do FOTM, I like using my bonuses. But even with most level 5 GAR skills, and hybrid bonuses etc, from my experience, I was doing at least 1 KDR better with it over my GAR. The scrambler I only take out if I notice multiple callogis.
I also have HMG fits, but as it is pretty FOTM I don't do them right now, unless situation calls for it.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1427
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:30:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Omega Black Zero wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:G Torq wrote:Step 1 - Delete Sentinel fitting Step 2 - Fit Minmatar Basic Heavy Step 3 - .... Step 4 - PROFIT! Stop trolling, unless step 3 is use glitches i don't see how you could profit of mini heavy. It's like running assault speeds with an HMG. It works great tbh. I've done a 20-0 with minmatar militia heavy frame with standard HMG, works wonders. Until an Amarr sentinel rolls around the corner and rips you apart like wet tissue paper
Isn't wet tissue paper one of minmatars chief exports. I don't fault them for using it in their suit design.
Crush them
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Cruor Abominare
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
128
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:31:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Oh let me count the ways I love thee GA Sentinel...
I am now running multiple fits to test some theories, that should be viable. Don't yell at me for protostomping, I love using the things I have earned and I play very suicidally, basically drop wherever I see a red dot and try to kill it. Yesterday I singlehandedly tried to win a domination game with 3 equally suiciadal randoms, and 9 snipers/redline hiders.
Yes I went 3-12, but I rejoiced in every kill because they were what you consider elite players.
all proto lows 1) Full plates 2) Full reactives 3) Full reps 4) Full ferros
high *) extender
Then I have 3 of every fit, assault scrambler, assault plasma rifle, assault combat rifle (can't deal with the rail delay)
and then my benchmark take all comers fit,
4 plates, rep, dmg mod and GA assault plasma rifle
To no surprise to anyone I guess (nor mine, I have known since they came out from experience), reactives and ferros are underwhelming at best. I am usually able to get a similar or better result by combining plates and reps, for less cpu/pg. Something that has been pointed out and is already on my list.
I am having a ton of fun with 5 reps. It's pretty badass to duck and hide, and the reload is only a couple of seconds less than a solid refill of armor. Try it out, it may not be viable or isk efficient in the long run but fun.
Now, I reluctantly tried the combat rifle because I don't do FOTM, I like using my bonuses. But even with most level 5 GAR skills, and hybrid bonuses etc, from my experience, I was doing at least 1 KDR better with it over my GAR. The scrambler I only take out if I notice multiple callogis.
I also have HMG fits, but as it is pretty FOTM I don't do them right now, unless situation calls for it.
I feel better knowing that the dev team fail fits their suits, the last year makes so much sense. |
G Torq
ALTA B2O
769
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Posted - 2014.04.30 07:36:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Omega Black Zero wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:G Torq wrote:Step 1 - Delete Sentinel fitting Step 2 - Fit Minmatar Basic Heavy Step 3 - .... Step 4 - PROFIT! Stop trolling, unless step 3 is use glitches i don't see how you could profit of mini heavy. It's like running assault speeds with an HMG. It works great tbh. I've done a 20-0 with minmatar militia heavy frame with standard HMG, works wonders. Until an Amarr sentinel rolls around the corner and rips you apart like wet tissue paper
Yes, everything has a counter - but most people get surprised when they get outrun by a speeding heavy with an HMG.
I usually run with an Assault HMG, so if I can get the Amarr at 35-40m, I'm out-DPS'ing him (assuming he is using a normal HMG)
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
1084
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Posted - 2014.04.30 08:25:00 -
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G Torq wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Omega Black Zero wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:G Torq wrote:Step 1 - Delete Sentinel fitting Step 2 - Fit Minmatar Basic Heavy Step 3 - .... Step 4 - PROFIT! Stop trolling, unless step 3 is use glitches i don't see how you could profit of mini heavy. It's like running assault speeds with an HMG. It works great tbh. I've done a 20-0 with minmatar militia heavy frame with standard HMG, works wonders. Until an Amarr sentinel rolls around the corner and rips you apart like wet tissue paper Yes, everything has a counter - but most people get surprised when they get outrun by a speeding heavy with an HMG. I usually run with an Assault HMG, so if I can get the Amarr at 35-40m, I'm out-DPS'ing him (assuming he is using a normal HMG) You factoring in the resistance as well? Also any fattie worth his lard(non newberry or FOTM chaser) should never be caught dead in the open like that, with the only exception being the calmmando or Amarr commando(cant think of a cutsie way of saying it >.<) as they thrive off range superiority.
Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics III
I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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Victor889
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
84
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Posted - 2014.04.30 09:14:00 -
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Advanced Gal Sentinel -
1 complex shield extender 2 complex plates 1 complex repper Standard/advanced HMG Toxin SMG Flux
Annoyed the Gal Sentinel doesn't have the most base armour (isn't the Gal supposed to be high armour, low shields?), why does the Amarr heavy have more base armour?
But still, this and my dren heavy are my go-to fits.
Part time Logi,
Full time heavy.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
3131
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Posted - 2014.04.30 09:35:00 -
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Cruor Abominare wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Oh let me count the ways I love thee GA Sentinel...
I am now running multiple fits to test some theories, that should be viable. Don't yell at me for protostomping, I love using the things I have earned and I play very suicidally, basically drop wherever I see a red dot and try to kill it. Yesterday I singlehandedly tried to win a domination game with 3 equally suiciadal randoms, and 9 snipers/redline hiders.
Yes I went 3-12, but I rejoiced in every kill because they were what you consider elite players.
all proto lows 1) Full plates 2) Full reactives 3) Full reps 4) Full ferros
high *) extender
Then I have 3 of every fit, assault scrambler, assault plasma rifle, assault combat rifle (can't deal with the rail delay)
and then my benchmark take all comers fit,
4 plates, rep, dmg mod and GA assault plasma rifle
To no surprise to anyone I guess (nor mine, I have known since they came out from experience), reactives and ferros are underwhelming at best. I am usually able to get a similar or better result by combining plates and reps, for less cpu/pg. Something that has been pointed out and is already on my list.
I am having a ton of fun with 5 reps. It's pretty badass to duck and hide, and the reload is only a couple of seconds less than a solid refill of armor. Try it out, it may not be viable or isk efficient in the long run but fun.
Now, I reluctantly tried the combat rifle because I don't do FOTM, I like using my bonuses. But even with most level 5 GAR skills, and hybrid bonuses etc, from my experience, I was doing at least 1 KDR better with it over my GAR. The scrambler I only take out if I notice multiple callogis.
I also have HMG fits, but as it is pretty FOTM I don't do them right now, unless situation calls for it.
I feel better knowing that the dev team fail fits their suits, the last year makes so much sense.
Full plates/reps works pretty nicely, actually for squads/soloing respectively.
OP, my Sentinel ak.0 fitting is 1x Cx Energiser, 1x Cx Damage Mod and either 2x Cx Plate and 1x Rep, or the reverse. 'Steelmine' Boundless (cos I ain't skilling HMG until there's a laser one! and I've still got a few Boundlesses left from Mauler) and an IASMG. I usually fit a Core Locus, although I'm tempted to switch to an Allotek Flux.
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
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Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
229
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Posted - 2014.04.30 09:36:00 -
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Victor889 wrote:Advanced Gal Sentinel -
1 complex shield extender 2 complex plates 1 complex repper Standard/advanced HMG Toxin SMG Flux
Annoyed the Gal Sentinel doesn't have the most base armour (isn't the Gal supposed to be high armour, low shields?), why does the Amarr heavy have more base armour?
But still, this and my dren heavy are my go-to fits.
Amarr in theory should have the resists and gallente the base armour if we are looking at how EVE is generally
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
3131
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Posted - 2014.04.30 09:37:00 -
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Victor889 wrote:Advanced Gal Sentinel -
1 complex shield extender 2 complex plates 1 complex repper Standard/advanced HMG Toxin SMG Flux
Annoyed the Gal Sentinel doesn't have the most base armour (isn't the Gal supposed to be high armour, low shields?), why does the Amarr heavy have more base armour?
But still, this and my dren heavy are my go-to fits.
Gal is supposed to rep tank - which is the reason for your inbuilt rep (which I admit is worthless, but hey). You've got a higher armour ceiling than we have, and a more versatile armour tank too.
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
Jason Person for CMP!
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
405
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Posted - 2014.04.30 10:01:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:G Torq wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:Omega Black Zero wrote: It's like running assault speeds with an HMG. It works great tbh. I've done a 20-0 with minmatar militia heavy frame with standard HMG, works wonders.
Until an Amarr sentinel rolls around the corner and rips you apart like wet tissue paper Yes, everything has a counter - but most people get surprised when they get outrun by a speeding heavy with an HMG. I usually run with an Assault HMG, so if I can get the Amarr at 35-40m, I'm out-DPS'ing him (assuming he is using a normal HMG) You factoring in the resistance as well? Also any fattie worth his lard(non newberry or FOTM chaser) should never be caught dead in the open like that, with the only exception being the calmmando or Amarr commando(cant think of a cutsie way of saying it >.<) as they thrive off range superiority.
Feh in the open or strafing in and out of cover in tight corridors a Minnie Heavy can run rings around practically any Sentinel especially when equipped with a burst . Your petty resistance aint worth a crap against 4600 rpms to the face.
Got a couple of Logibro behind you ? They die first because a Minnie Heavy will never face a group head on... and with their speed ...dont need to. Underestimate the Minnie Heavy with a Com Kinkat at your own risk !
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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Jason Pearson
State Terrestrial Mercenaries
4250
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Posted - 2014.04.30 10:06:00 -
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Caldari Sentinel > Other Sentinels.
I love my shields, the ability to have a high tank (nearly 1000 shields) or have a high rep of over 100hp/s, shields just seem to work really well, especially when faced with nade spammers and MD scrubs. With a 4x Complex Shield Extender fit, I can survive direct REs, which actually do more than 1500HP (According to GM Scotsman, that's just radius damage.)
I have so many different fits for the Caldari Sentinel, its abilities allow it to function both long range and close range, it all comes down to your weapons and knowing how they perform..
The first HMG fit is a standard suit consisting of the following
MH-82 Heavy Maching Gun N7-A Magsec SMG Flux Grenade Enhanced Shield Energizer Basic Shield Extender Basic Reactive Plate
It's cheap and allows me to throw multiple suits into a grinder and still come out ISK positive.
My next fits are all on a Sentinel ck.0
Boundless Heavy Machine Gun Kaalakiota Magsec SMG Sleek Locus Grenade (Really anything I want) Complex Shield Extender x3 Complex Shield Energizer Complex Shield Regulator
This is my most common fit, it's got a high amount of shields and is still able to rep at 50hp/s, I have enough tank to survive most engagements, and then I'm able to recover pretty quickly and be ready for the next one without the need of a logi.
Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle Kaalakiota Magsec SMG Complex Shield Energizer x2 Complex Shield Extender x2 Complex Shield Regulator
I've grown to love the Assault RR recently, its dispersion makes it easier to fire in CQC yet can be controlled in ADS allowing it to function at longer ranges, it also has no real noticeable kick which is something I'm currently struggling with due to an awful controller and no real KBM support. This fit is designed to assault and then take cover quickly, it has over 80/hps, so I'm able to regain full HP in a few seconds. This rep ability has saved me multiple times, especially from players who have misjudged the performance of my suit and figured they can run round the corner after a few seconds firing their sidearm after getting me into armor. Due to its long range weapon it's able to react to others and then retreat to heal making it a great skirmisher.
I ******* love this suit.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
3133
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Posted - 2014.04.30 10:46:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:so many words!
I'm an Amarr purist at this point, but this guy convinced me to spec Caldari Sentinel (at least to level one)
All he needs is some decent cores and he can actually build a stupidly effective suit...
fwiw, my preferred STD fit comes to 25k (my fitting skills are maxed);
ADV Energiser (I'm not going to be able to fit a proto even when I unlock them, not enough CPU) PRO extender (gives a little buffer which is nice) PRO Armour Repper (means my armour is actually useful. And my suit has seven less armour than Jason's cos like I said, rubbish cores)
MH-82 Some kind of grenade I think I have a toxin here? Can't remember if I could fit a sidearm.
But basically these heavy suits are stupidly versatile; I'm considering getting the Min Basic for that movement speed (though I need kincats first...)
Also I forgot about my FG fitting!
IAFG (I like to solo tanks and this is what it takes, prof 3) IASMG (best sidearm hands down. Jason will claim it's the MGMG, don't listen he's lying) Lai Dai Packed (people like to complain that these are useless now. Well, I only got them in 1.8 and I can't imagine how devastating they'd be if I still had three)
2x Cx Extenders (unlike my HMG fitting I need shields; even without the energiser they regen reasonably fast, and I've found them more useful than damage mods) 2x Cx reppers (regenerating buffer is critical, and more important IMO than sheer tank) 1x Cx plate (this lets me tank a hit from an MLT railgun)
I can 1v1 Sicas by standing in the street in front of them with this guy.
Most people aren't good enough to hit me twice before I forge them to death.
I will need to do the maths, though, and see if damage mods give me more bang for my buck.
All I can say about proto sentinels is that they have truly obscene fitting capabilities. I have never spent a point in fitting optimisation in my life and everything fits anyway.
ak.0 // 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak // I speak for the trees.
Jason Person for CMP!
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
7209
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Posted - 2014.04.30 10:51:00 -
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Gallente Sentinel gk.0
Three Complex Kinetic Catalyzers Complex Cardiac Regulator
Complex Heavy Damage Mod
Six Kin Burst HMG M512-A SMG
C-7 Flux Grenade
Why do Heavies have so much PG/CPU that they can fit all Proto mods and Weapons with PG/CPU left to spare?? |
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CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
934
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Posted - 2014.04.30 10:59:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Gallente Sentinel gk.0
Three Complex Kinetic Catalyzers Complex Cardiac Regulator
Complex Heavy Damage Mod
Six Kin Burst HMG M512-A SMG
C-7 Flux Grenade
Why do Heavies have so much PG/CPU that they can fit all Proto mods and Weapons with PG/CPU left to spare??
Something I have also asked the devs, as a player I just took it and laughed. It's on my list though to follow up.
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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Jason Pearson
State Terrestrial Mercenaries
4253
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:01:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Gallente Sentinel gk.0
Three Complex Kinetic Catalyzers Complex Cardiac Regulator
Complex Heavy Damage Mod
Six Kin Burst HMG M512-A SMG
C-7 Flux Grenade
Why do Heavies have so much PG/CPU that they can fit all Proto mods and Weapons with PG/CPU left to spare?? Something I have also asked the devs, as a player I just took it and laughed. It's on my list though to follow up.
Sir, please cease and desist. PROTO ALL THE THINGS!
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1985
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:19:00 -
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Adv Gal sentinel 1 complex repper 2 adv plates (save some speed at the cost of 40 hp) 1 complex damage mod MH82 HMG Bolt pistol
Adv Cal sentinel 3 complex shield energizers (113 hp/s) 1 cpu upgrade MH82 HMG M209 A-smg
The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes..
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Oxskull Duncarino
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
529
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:19:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Oh let me count the ways I love thee GA Sentinel...
I am now running multiple fits to test some theories, that should be viable. Don't yell at me for protostomping, I love using the things I have earned and I play very suicidally, basically drop wherever I see a red dot and try to kill it. Yesterday I singlehandedly tried to win a domination game with 3 equally suiciadal randoms, and 9 snipers/redline hiders.
Yes I went 3-12, but I rejoiced in every kill because they were what you consider elite players.
all proto lows 1) Full plates 2) Full reactives 3) Full reps 4) Full ferros
high *) extender
Then I have 3 of every fit, assault scrambler, assault plasma rifle, assault combat rifle (can't deal with the rail delay)
and then my benchmark take all comers fit,
4 plates, rep, dmg mod and GA assault plasma rifle
To no surprise to anyone I guess (nor mine, I have known since they came out from experience), reactives and ferros are underwhelming at best. I am usually able to get a similar or better result by combining plates and reps, for less cpu/pg. Something that has been pointed out and is already on my list.
I am having a ton of fun with 5 reps. It's pretty badass to duck and hide, and the reload is only a couple of seconds less than a solid refill of armor. Try it out, it may not be viable or isk efficient in the long run but fun.
Now, I reluctantly tried the combat rifle because I don't do FOTM, I like using my bonuses. But even with most level 5 GAR skills, and hybrid bonuses etc, from my experience, I was doing at least 1 KDR better with it over my GAR. The scrambler I only take out if I notice multiple callogis.
I also have HMG fits, but as it is pretty FOTM I don't do them right now, unless situation calls for it.
5 Reps Gotta get me some Dev hacks for to try that out myself
"Science has not yet taught us if madness is or is not the sublimity of the intelligence." -- Edgar Allan Poe
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superjoe360x
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
236
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:28:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Cruor Abominare wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Oh let me count the ways I love thee GA Sentinel...
I am now running multiple fits to test some theories, that should be viable. Don't yell at me for protostomping, I love using the things I have earned and I play very suicidally, basically drop wherever I see a red dot and try to kill it. Yesterday I singlehandedly tried to win a domination game with 3 equally suiciadal randoms, and 9 snipers/redline hiders.
Yes I went 3-12, but I rejoiced in every kill because they were what you consider elite players.
all proto lows 1) Full plates 2) Full reactives 3) Full reps 4) Full ferros
high *) extender
Then I have 3 of every fit, assault scrambler, assault plasma rifle, assault combat rifle (can't deal with the rail delay)
and then my benchmark take all comers fit,
4 plates, rep, dmg mod and GA assault plasma rifle
To no surprise to anyone I guess (nor mine, I have known since they came out from experience), reactives and ferros are underwhelming at best. I am usually able to get a similar or better result by combining plates and reps, for less cpu/pg. Something that has been pointed out and is already on my list.
I am having a ton of fun with 5 reps. It's pretty badass to duck and hide, and the reload is only a couple of seconds less than a solid refill of armor. Try it out, it may not be viable or isk efficient in the long run but fun.
Now, I reluctantly tried the combat rifle because I don't do FOTM, I like using my bonuses. But even with most level 5 GAR skills, and hybrid bonuses etc, from my experience, I was doing at least 1 KDR better with it over my GAR. The scrambler I only take out if I notice multiple callogis.
I also have HMG fits, but as it is pretty FOTM I don't do them right now, unless situation calls for it.
I feel better knowing that the dev team fail fits their suits, the last year makes so much sense. Full plates/reps works pretty nicely, actually for squads/soloing respectively. OP, my Sentinel ak.0 fitting is 1x Cx Energiser, 1x Cx Damage Mod and either 2x Cx Plate and 1x Rep, or the reverse. 'Steelmine' Boundless (cos I ain't skilling HMG until there's a laser one! and I've still got a few Boundlesses left from Mauler) and an IASMG. I usually fit a Core Locus, although I'm tempted to switch to an Allotek Flux. Oh yes Amarr is the way to go. I didn't let the new suits sway me. I run 1 complex dmg, 1 complex shield ext, 2 complex plates, 1 complex repper. Boundless HMG, Ish Ass SMG, and Allotek Flux Nades. You need to go to the proto flux. No Caldari Garbage Heavy will stop you and there are a lot of ppl running those stupid Cal heavies. You can tear through 2 or 3 of them at a time. I went 60-3 the other day on the Research Facility.
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Chrome HD
Arrogance. Caps and Mercs
22
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Posted - 2014.04.30 11:48:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:Omega Black Zero wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:G Torq wrote:Step 1 - Delete Sentinel fitting Step 2 - Fit Minmatar Basic Heavy Step 3 - .... Step 4 - PROFIT! Stop trolling, unless step 3 is use glitches i don't see how you could profit of mini heavy. It's like running assault speeds with an HMG. It works great tbh. I've done a 20-0 with minmatar militia heavy frame with standard HMG, works wonders. Until an Amarr sentinel rolls around the corner and rips you apart like wet tissue paper
Ive went head to head with Amarr and Gallente adv and basic heavy suits with my militia min heavy frame and basic hmg its not hard. |
sebastian the huds
Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day
105
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:19:00 -
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I fill all but 1 low slot with adv plates and he last 1 with a complex rep(even with logi support). I would run 2 complex shield extenders as well, and fit flux grenades.
sebastian the huds (insert any weapon) whoever i want
Weapon operation 5 in most weapons
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Doctor Day
EoN Minmatar
168
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:21:00 -
[29] - Quote
/My Min senitel is a flower 2 damage mods 1 rep and a hmg is all i neeed to get hate mail :/
Obvious troll is Obvious
All Assaults and AV players go to EON MINMATAR channel for squad ups ^_^
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NAV HIV
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
1629
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:22:00 -
[30] - Quote
Damage Mods and Kinkats |
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
69
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:25:00 -
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MLT - AHMG, Toxin SMG, Flux, No Modules
ADV - MO-4 AHMG or Kalaakiota FG, M209 SMG, C-7 Flux, Enhanced Plates, Damage Mod(s)
PRO - Boundless HMG or Kalaakiota FG, M209 SMG, C-7 Flux, Complex Plates, Damage Mod(s)
I also run Turbo Turtles (KinCatz and a Regulator in the Lows) for ***** and giggles.
The guy from the Hamburger train.
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Jason Pearson
State Terrestrial Mercenaries
4254
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:41:00 -
[32] - Quote
Doctor Day wrote:/My Min senitel is a flower 2 damage mods 1 rep and a hmg is all i neeed to get hate mail :/
Silly Doc, nobody sends you hate mail, stop trying to sound relevant.
:D
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire \\ Bad Mathematician
Vote me for CPM1!
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WARxion ForDUST
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
24
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Posted - 2014.04.30 12:53:00 -
[33] - Quote
Caldari ADV Sentinel here...
High: 2 Complex Shield Extender and a State Complex Shield Energizer Low: State Complex Shield Regulator.
With a State Kaalakiota Rail Rifle and 0.8s depleted shield recharge delay it's a beast! |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
588
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Posted - 2014.04.30 14:55:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Oh let me count the ways I love thee GA Sentinel...
I am now running multiple fits to test some theories, that should be viable. Don't yell at me for protostomping, I love using the things I have earned and I play very suicidally, basically drop wherever I see a red dot and try to kill it. Yesterday I singlehandedly tried to win a domination game with 3 equally suiciadal randoms, and 9 snipers/redline hiders.
Yes I went 3-12, but I rejoiced in every kill because they were what you consider elite players.
all proto lows 1) Full plates 2) Full reactives 3) Full reps 4) Full ferros
high *) extender
Then I have 3 of every fit, assault scrambler, assault plasma rifle, assault combat rifle (can't deal with the rail delay)
and then my benchmark take all comers fit,
4 plates, rep, dmg mod and GA assault plasma rifle
To no surprise to anyone I guess (nor mine, I have known since they came out from experience), reactives and ferros are underwhelming at best. I am usually able to get a similar or better result by combining plates and reps, for less cpu/pg. Something that has been pointed out and is already on my list.
I am having a ton of fun with 5 reps. It's pretty badass to duck and hide, and the reload is only a couple of seconds less than a solid refill of armor. Try it out, it may not be viable or isk efficient in the long run but fun.
Now, I reluctantly tried the combat rifle because I don't do FOTM, I like using my bonuses. But even with most level 5 GAR skills, and hybrid bonuses etc, from my experience, I was doing at least 1 KDR better with it over my GAR. The scrambler I only take out if I notice multiple callogis.
I also have HMG fits, but as it is pretty FOTM I don't do them right now, unless situation calls for it.
Is there a term for a fit which the fotm pushes others into? Thats how I see the hmg argument. Its a natural counter to the scout (being the only suit which can counter the scouts 1k damage jump on anyone else)
EP 1.8: Revenge of the Scouts
Hiding in the redline means: I want to play, just not with you
+25 = I'm helping
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Autoaim Bot514
The Hetairoi
110
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:01:00 -
[35] - Quote
CCP Rattati wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Gallente Sentinel gk.0
Three Complex Kinetic Catalyzers Complex Cardiac Regulator
Complex Heavy Damage Mod
Six Kin Burst HMG M512-A SMG
C-7 Flux Grenade
Why do Heavies have so much PG/CPU that they can fit all Proto mods and Weapons with PG/CPU left to spare?? Something I have also asked the devs, as a player I just took it and laughed. It's on my list though to follow up.
Just leave min sentinel alone. |
ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
773
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Posted - 2014.04.30 15:14:00 -
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As I only have Minmatar Sentinel to Advanced, I run a Complex Energizer, Complex Heavy Damage Mod, Complex Kin Cat, Complex Rep, MH 82 HMG(I never run a more advanced gun than the suit), T-12 Ion Pistol, and a flux grenade. When I get Proto, I'll probably slap on a second Energizer and up the guns as best I can.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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G Torq
ALTA B2O
772
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Posted - 2014.04.30 16:18:00 -
[37] - Quote
ResistanceGTA wrote:As I only have Minmatar Sentinel to Advanced, I run a Complex Energizer, Complex Heavy Damage Mod, Complex Kin Cat, Complex Rep, MH 82 HMG(I never run a more advanced gun than the suit), T-12 Ion Pistol, and a flux grenade. When I get Proto, I'll probably slap on a second Energizer and up the guns as best I can. See my first post in this thread: Use the Basic heavy instead Sentinel.
You lose a bit of armor, but gain 0.15 m/s
Team Fairy DUST
HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
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Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
216
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Posted - 2014.04.30 16:22:00 -
[38] - Quote
Sentinel Gallente G/1 - Series
1x Complex Heavy Damage Modifier Boundless HMG Toxin SMG (it's a blueprint, save money in the sidearm department) or M512 SMG
The low slots are depending on the following: -By myself: 3x Complex Armor Plates -If I have a logistics player on me: 2x Kin cats (any level) 1x Complex Armor Repair Module -If with a squad of players I know very well and with at least 2 logistics players: 3x Kin cats
Open Beta (03/26/2012) to a 1-year Vet.
Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0.
Yea that old.
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Zetsumi Ravencroft
Ultramarine Corp
66
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Posted - 2014.04.30 16:33:00 -
[39] - Quote
Sentinel A/1 Series [Shock Troop Fit]
-2x Enhanced Armor Plates -1x Enhanced Armor Repper -1x Enhanced Shield Recharger -M1 Locus Grenade -GN-13 Flaylock -MH-82 Heavy Machine Gun
Sentinel A/1 Series [Heavy Demolition Fit]
-2x Enhanced Armor Plates -1x Enhanced Armor Repper -1x Enhanced Heavy Damage Mod -Packed AV Grenade -N7-A Magsec -DAU-2/A Assault Forge Gun or DCMA-5 Breach Forge Gun
M.A.G - RAVEN Vet
"I am not a man, I AM ARMOR WEARING ARMOR WITH A GUN!" - Zetsumi Ravencroft, when using a Sentinel
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2984
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Posted - 2014.04.30 16:37:00 -
[40] - Quote
I usually fit the Sentinels I find with a Nova Knife to the spine, or some RE shoesGǪ
Or they blast me into oblivion
KRRROOOOOOM
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Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
229
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Posted - 2014.05.01 08:59:00 -
[41] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:I usually fit the Sentinels I find with a Nova Knife to the spine, or some RE shoesGǪ
Or they blast me into oblivion
^^
Gaming Freek DUST 514 YouTube Channel
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
4157
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Posted - 2014.05.01 09:07:00 -
[42] - Quote
CalSen rules them all...
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Vulpes Dolosus
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1544
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Posted - 2014.05.02 11:18:00 -
[43] - Quote
Rep-tanked+Speed Tanked Cal sent ftw!!!
Me in my ADS: 1,2
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Vong Gai
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
22
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:12:00 -
[44] - Quote
Not trying to be negative towards Cal Heavies, just an honest question for I only use the cal suit as my forge gunner. That said, what do you do when the heavy you're taking on hits you with a flux grenade?
"If you ain't with us, you're against us !"
OFFICER, SAM-MIK CORP
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
2296
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:14:00 -
[45] - Quote
I fit two nova knifes and speed mods, I mean why not at this point? |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1894
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:16:00 -
[46] - Quote
I don't. Not anymore.
Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
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Meknow Intaki
174
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Posted - 2014.05.02 17:18:00 -
[47] - Quote
What's the point of fitting anything?! This game is Dead!! |
Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
229
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Posted - 2014.05.02 18:59:00 -
[48] - Quote
Vong Gai wrote:Not trying to be negative towards Cal Heavies, just an honest question for I only use the cal suit as my forge gunner. That said, what do you do when the heavy you're taking on hits you with a flux grenade? Die I believe, I have footage of it ^^
Gaming Freek DUST 514 YouTube Channel
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