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D legendary hero
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:22:00 -
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that once PC opens up and the entire eve universe is availible to play in... that with molden heath as a home base DNS will literally be able to just take the whole freaking universe.
[b]unless, there is a PC reset at that time freeing all disstricts, and limiting the amount of corp funds that can be spent in PC.[b]
if PC isnt reset, when the rest of the universe opens up, then no one will have anything, and the game will lose what little purpose it had..
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:24:00 -
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I've said this in war room and got a reply from a few DNS members of pretty much "We just don't want to take over anything past Molden heath"
No more regions should be opened up until things are fixed. it is not a good mechanic when some can say "We can easily break the game, but will just give you our word that we won't, I promise"
They are not going to open up more regions because molden heath is being used as a testing ground and so far it has failed.
Sir Hadah for CPM
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Stiddlefaxq
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:25:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:that once PC opens up and the entire eve universe is availible to play in... that with molden heath as a home base DNS will literally be able to just take the whole freaking universe.
[b]unless, there is a PC reset at that time freeing all disstricts, and limiting the amount of corp funds that can be spent in PC.[b]
if PC isnt reset, when the rest of the universe opens up, then no one will have anything, and the game will lose what little purpose it had..
They are just going to open it up at euro timers again and you will see the rebirth of Chronos.
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darkiller240
K-A-O-S theory
780
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:25:00 -
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Just let DNS fall when their leaders get to greedy, its just a natural cycle.
Im pretty sure it happened in eve and the outcome was the same as i described.
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
629
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:44:00 -
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Why would they open up the rest of the eve universe? There wasnt even enough corps participating in PC before the big blue donut...
What it comes down to is, passive isk HAS to be removed. Then, CCP has to find a way to make people fight. As it stands you make absolutely no isk unless you hold a district for at least a couple of days. This has to change.
The problem that CCP created was, it was a bigger benefit to these corps to just blue up instead of keep fighting. There needs to be more of an incentive to fight.
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Maximus Stryker
Who Are Those Guys
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:46:00 -
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CCP has confirmed that PC 2.0 will be very different from what we currently have. And yes, it will be in a different region than Molden Heath.
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
629
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:50:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:CCP has confirmed that PC 2.0 will be very different from what we currently have. And yes, it will be in a different region than Molden Heath.
Link?
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
2938
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Posted - 2014.04.29 17:55:00 -
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Does it matter? They allready got so much isk from it that they could flood the complete universe with clone packs on the initial landgrab. And even then they probs would just take everything by force with the elite playerbase.
Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
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Dheez
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
106
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:03:00 -
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Will CCP do it? under the authority of "EULA". Can / Will they risk alienating more of the already dwindling player base. |
Sourdough Muffins
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
291
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:04:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Does it matter? They allready got so much isk from it that they could flood the complete universe with clone packs on the initial landgrab. And even then they probs would just take everything by force with the elite playerbase.
Complete asset deletion would fix that. Keep everyone's SP the same but delete all ISK, all suits, ect that could negatively affect the game. Especially, if they plan on linking the economy to EVE online. Doing it as is would crash EVE's and pretty much kill their only money maker(EVE). |
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Christiphoros von Poe
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
347
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:11:00 -
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Sourdough Muffins wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Does it matter? They allready got so much isk from it that they could flood the complete universe with clone packs on the initial landgrab. And even then they probs would just take everything by force with the elite playerbase. Complete asset deletion would fix that. Keep everyone's SP the same but delete all ISK, all suits, ect that could negatively affect the game. Especially, if they plan on linking the economy to EVE online. Doing it as is would crash EVE's and pretty much kill their only money maker(EVE).
Why do you say it will crash EVE's economy? Eve players amass tons of ISK. I'm sure one EVE player can accumulate as much ISK as DNS has.
Edit: Dust side DNS ISK.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
7453
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:14:00 -
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Sourdough Muffins wrote:
Complete asset deletion would fix that. Keep everyone's SP the same but delete all ISK, all suits, ect that could negatively affect the game. Especially, if they plan on linking the economy to EVE online. Doing it as is would crash EVE's and pretty much kill their only money maker(EVE).
So basically punish all of the people who were wise and budgeted their ISK because of players in PC who obtained ISK b/c of the community's refusal to do anything about it?
Seems legit.
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Izlare Lenix
Arrogance.
Caps and Mercs
526
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Posted - 2014.04.29 18:31:00 -
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CCP will NEVER police PC. NEVER.
While still limited when compared to EVE, Dust is a sandbox, controlled by the players. As long as DNS doesn't break the EULA, CCP will not take action against them.
It is up to the player base to crush DNS, or the more likely scenario of DNS crumbling from within.
Over the past 11 years there have been many large Powerblocks holding massive territory and ISK on the EVE side and they all fell apart with time. DNS's end will also come.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
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Stiddlefaxq
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
75
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:06:00 -
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Sourdough Muffins wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Does it matter? They allready got so much isk from it that they could flood the complete universe with clone packs on the initial landgrab. And even then they probs would just take everything by force with the elite playerbase. Complete asset deletion would fix that. Keep everyone's SP the same but delete all ISK, all suits, ect that could negatively affect the game. Especially, if they plan on linking the economy to EVE online. Doing it as is would crash EVE's and pretty much kill their only money maker(EVE).
Nope, if you are going to reset ISK, you have to reset SP too.
WAH SOMEBODY ELSE MADE ALL DAH ISKIES, RESET!
And to think that dust ISK would crash the eve economy is laughable. People NOT in the top 1% of eve have more money than the entire dust economy. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
4472
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:09:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:CCP will NEVER police PC. NEVER.
While still limited when compared to EVE, Dust is a sandbox, controlled by the players. As long as DNS doesn't break the EULA, CCP will not take action against them.
It is up to the player base to crush DNS, or the more likely scenario of DNS crumbling from within.
Over the past 11 years there have been many large Powerblocks holding massive territory and ISK on the EVE side and they all fell apart with time. DNS's end will also come.
So few realize this.
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
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Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Dirt Nap Squad.
580
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:17:00 -
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Reset MH we'll just take it over Agian teehee |
Pvt Numnutz
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:18:00 -
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Unless eve pilots can invest in dust corps |
Free Beers
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2440
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:21:00 -
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ccp has said pc 2.0 is nothing like pc 1.0 and we will see in a few days. Also if you could hold districts now you would.
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1402
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:22:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Why would they open up the rest of the eve universe? There wasnt even enough corps participating in PC before the big blue donut...
What it comes down to is, passive isk HAS to be removed. Then, CCP has to find a way to make people fight. As it stands you make absolutely no isk unless you hold a district for at least a couple of days. This has to change.
The problem that CCP created was, it was a bigger benefit to these corps to just blue up instead of keep fighting. There needs to be more of an incentive to fight.
Corp battles
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1951
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:24:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:CCP will NEVER police PC. NEVER.
While still limited when compared to EVE, Dust is a sandbox, controlled by the players. As long as DNS doesn't break the EULA, CCP will not take action against them.
It is up to the player base to crush DNS, or the more likely scenario of DNS crumbling from within.
Over the past 11 years there have been many large Powerblocks holding massive territory and ISK on the EVE side and they all fell apart with time. DNS's end will also come. So few realize this.
Fixing their **** up =/= policing PC.
It was CCP's bright idea to include "poof, isk from nowhere" the players simply utilized a mechanic they all knew was broke as **** "because we can".
If CCP doesn't clean up the mess they made with PC 1.0, they'll lose what little playerbase they have (outside the circlejerk) with no hope of retaining new players.
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
638
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:36:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:CCP will NEVER police PC. NEVER.
While still limited when compared to EVE, Dust is a sandbox, controlled by the players. As long as DNS doesn't break the EULA, CCP will not take action against them.
It is up to the player base to crush DNS, or the more likely scenario of DNS crumbling from within.
Over the past 11 years there have been many large Powerblocks holding massive territory and ISK on the EVE side and they all fell apart with time. DNS's end will also come. So few realize this. Fixing their **** up =/= policing PC. It was CCP's bright idea to include "poof, isk from nowhere" the players simply utilized a mechanic they all knew was broke as **** "because we can". If CCP doesn't clean up the mess they made with PC 1.0, they'll lose what little playerbase they have (outside the circlejerk) with no hope of retaining new players.
The sky is falling, all hope is lost. 
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Medical Crash
CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY
326
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:54:00 -
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I wish CCP would integrate EVE with DUST a bit more. I was told by a commander in a very powerful EVE (FA), that EVE pilots hate helping us. He said they see no benefit in providing assistance.
If EVE players gained something by helping DUST players, it'd be easier to find EVE support. As of now, it sucks to have no chance of fighting an orbital being shot at you as soon as you deploy in PC, because there are not enough EVE players (alliances) that want to help. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1951
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:59:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:CCP will NEVER police PC. NEVER.
While still limited when compared to EVE, Dust is a sandbox, controlled by the players. As long as DNS doesn't break the EULA, CCP will not take action against them.
It is up to the player base to crush DNS, or the more likely scenario of DNS crumbling from within.
Over the past 11 years there have been many large Powerblocks holding massive territory and ISK on the EVE side and they all fell apart with time. DNS's end will also come. So few realize this. Fixing their **** up =/= policing PC. It was CCP's bright idea to include "poof, isk from nowhere" the players simply utilized a mechanic they all knew was broke as **** "because we can". If CCP doesn't clean up the mess they made with PC 1.0, they'll lose what little playerbase they have (outside the circlejerk) with no hope of retaining new players. The sky is falling, all hope is lost.
Go ahead, compare me to chicken little. Will you have fun when all of the servers are as dead as Oceania?
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
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Big Burns
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dirt Nap Squad.
143
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:00:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:that once PC opens up and the entire eve universe is availible to play in... that with molden heath as a home base DNS will literally be able to just take the whole freaking universe.
[b]unless, there is a PC reset at that time freeing all disstricts, and limiting the amount of corp funds that can be spent in PC.[b]
if PC isnt reset, when the rest of the universe opens up, then no one will have anything, and the game will lose what little purpose it had..
There is nothing anyone can do to stop this force. The only thing to do is break up the corps through manipulation/psychology, even then, NS, AE, FA, and DDB, would only slow down ERA/TP. These players are such a tremendous accolade, that the only thing weighing them down is their lack of a large player base amongst their ranks. But even now, they have new guys that aren't looking to leave anytime soon. I'm not referring to myself, in any manner, rather the core which consists of Legends, such as ReGnYuM, Aldin, etc.
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
638
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:11:00 -
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I really doubt that if CCP doesn't remove PC isk that this game is going to flop. They have way bigger things to worry about.
As someone said earlier, this kind f thing has happened many times in EvE. CCP has never taken the isk back, they fix the problem and move on.
DNS will crumble from inside, or someone(s) will step up to smack them down. Remember EoN? They had a boatload of isk too..
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1951
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:15:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:I really doubt that if CCP doesn't remove PC isk that this game is going to flop. They have way bigger things to worry about.
As someone said earlier, this kind f thing has happened many times in EvE. CCP has never taken the isk back, they fix the problem and move on.
DNS will crumble from inside, or someone(s) will step up to smack them down. Remember EoN? They had a boatload of isk too..
When was isk simply handed out in Eve? Yes, people make boatloads of money in Eve, however there is more risk to it than there is in Dust.
AFAIK, Eve has never had 100% free Isk, yet here it is in Dust.
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
639
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:21:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I really doubt that if CCP doesn't remove PC isk that this game is going to flop. They have way bigger things to worry about.
As someone said earlier, this kind f thing has happened many times in EvE. CCP has never taken the isk back, they fix the problem and move on.
DNS will crumble from inside, or someone(s) will step up to smack them down. Remember EoN? They had a boatload of isk too.. When was isk simply handed out in Eve? Yes, people make boatloads of money in Eve, however there is more risk to it than there is in Dust. AFAIK, Eve has never had 100% free Isk, yet here it is in Dust.
We have this thing called google now. You should try it.
http://i.massively.joystiq.com/2013/12/15/eve-evolved-three-exploitable-game-features/
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Necandi Brasil
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:28:00 -
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Military doctrine is not a CCP thing... but let's just point out two major flaws of this MH scenario.
1) The attacking force must have a numerical advantage of at least 3x1 to secure a victory (This manpower ratio can be Shifted due to Technology,morale, training, etc.). In a heavvy entreched position.. you will need at least 5x1 ratio
-> We can't stack clones to attack a district...
2) Attack when the enemy is LEAST prepared...
-> Right now the district holder can just choose when to fight
That forces us to play with the SAME OR MORE training, technology, morale, etc... This results in a Select few able to fight
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1952
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:34:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I really doubt that if CCP doesn't remove PC isk that this game is going to flop. They have way bigger things to worry about.
As someone said earlier, this kind f thing has happened many times in EvE. CCP has never taken the isk back, they fix the problem and move on.
DNS will crumble from inside, or someone(s) will step up to smack them down. Remember EoN? They had a boatload of isk too.. When was isk simply handed out in Eve? Yes, people make boatloads of money in Eve, however there is more risk to it than there is in Dust. AFAIK, Eve has never had 100% free Isk, yet here it is in Dust. We have this thing called google now. You should try it. http://i.massively.joystiq.com/2013/12/15/eve-evolved-three-exploitable-game-features/
Really, I read through all of that and still no proof of a similar situation in Eve.
In PC, you seize a District and accumulate clones from nothing. These clones accumulate to a limit and then are "autosold" into ether, leaving behind little more than a tick in the corp wallet.
When in the history of Eve has it been: Anchor tower, reach limit, watch corp wallet inflate?
AFAIK, this has NEVER happened. This is why the PC Isk needs to go.
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
642
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Posted - 2014.04.29 22:08:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I really doubt that if CCP doesn't remove PC isk that this game is going to flop. They have way bigger things to worry about.
As someone said earlier, this kind f thing has happened many times in EvE. CCP has never taken the isk back, they fix the problem and move on.
DNS will crumble from inside, or someone(s) will step up to smack them down. Remember EoN? They had a boatload of isk too.. When was isk simply handed out in Eve? Yes, people make boatloads of money in Eve, however there is more risk to it than there is in Dust. AFAIK, Eve has never had 100% free Isk, yet here it is in Dust. We have this thing called google now. You should try it. http://i.massively.joystiq.com/2013/12/15/eve-evolved-three-exploitable-game-features/ Really, I read through all of that and still no proof of a similar situation in Eve. In PC, you seize a District and accumulate clones from nothing. These clones accumulate to a limit and then are "autosold" into ether, leaving behind little more than a tick in the corp wallet. When in the history of Eve has it been: Anchor tower, reach limit, watch corp wallet inflate? AFAIK, this has NEVER happened. This is why the PC Isk needs to go.
"Most cases of abusing features for profit or advantage aren't as clear-cut as these obvious exploits, as some have negative consequences but still use completely legitimate game mechanics. When players figured out how to abuse Faction Warfare's kill LP rewards to farm five trillion ISK, for example, they did so using in-game mechanics that just hadn't really been thought through."
Its one of the first paragraphs. How do you miss that?
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
1952
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Posted - 2014.04.29 22:42:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:P14GU3 wrote:I really doubt that if CCP doesn't remove PC isk that this game is going to flop. They have way bigger things to worry about.
As someone said earlier, this kind f thing has happened many times in EvE. CCP has never taken the isk back, they fix the problem and move on.
DNS will crumble from inside, or someone(s) will step up to smack them down. Remember EoN? They had a boatload of isk too.. When was isk simply handed out in Eve? Yes, people make boatloads of money in Eve, however there is more risk to it than there is in Dust. AFAIK, Eve has never had 100% free Isk, yet here it is in Dust. We have this thing called google now. You should try it. http://i.massively.joystiq.com/2013/12/15/eve-evolved-three-exploitable-game-features/ Really, I read through all of that and still no proof of a similar situation in Eve. In PC, you seize a District and accumulate clones from nothing. These clones accumulate to a limit and then are "autosold" into ether, leaving behind little more than a tick in the corp wallet. When in the history of Eve has it been: Anchor tower, reach limit, watch corp wallet inflate? AFAIK, this has NEVER happened. This is why the PC Isk needs to go. "Most cases of abusing features for profit or advantage aren't as clear-cut as these obvious exploits, as some have negative consequences but still use completely legitimate game mechanics. When players figured out how to abuse Faction Warfare's kill LP rewards to farm five trillion ISK, for example, they did so using in-game mechanics that just hadn't really been thought through." Its one of the first paragraphs. How do you miss that?
You have no clue what I am referring to. They didn't "create" 5 trillion Isk from nothing. They killed enough value to create enough LP to get enough items from the LP store to sell on the market or by contract to net them 5 trillion Isk in profit after sale.
Seriously, Dust is the only "free Isk from nothing" in New Eden.
It needs to go away.
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
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P14GU3
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 23:29:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:It needs to go away.
I don't disagree, never have. It's a ridiculous mechanic. But it was still on "oversight" by CCP (not really because we told them.) But the players who are amassing isk from PC currently did not "exploit" the game, they used broken game mechanics to gain an advantage that others did not. You can not punish them for it.
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
4489
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:03:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:CCP will NEVER police PC. NEVER.
While still limited when compared to EVE, Dust is a sandbox, controlled by the players. As long as DNS doesn't break the EULA, CCP will not take action against them.
It is up to the player base to crush DNS, or the more likely scenario of DNS crumbling from within.
Over the past 11 years there have been many large Powerblocks holding massive territory and ISK on the EVE side and they all fell apart with time. DNS's end will also come. So few realize this. Fixing their **** up =/= policing PC. It was CCP's bright idea to include "poof, isk from nowhere" the players simply utilized a mechanic they all knew was broke as **** "because we can". If CCP doesn't clean up the mess they made with PC 1.0, they'll lose what little playerbase they have (outside the circlejerk) with no hope of retaining new players.
I completely agree with fixing the horrid PC mechanics.
I just see a lot of people whining about the DNS donut, and then claiming that they need to have all land taken away by the CCP Police.
CPP won't do that people. Taking advantage of mechanics is A-OK in their book, they won't do a damn thing to the donut.
Give it time. It'll fall. They always do. I'm just in it for the ISK and Battles. That and hanging with my awesome corp.
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
Dirt Nap Squad.
1868
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:10:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:that once PC opens up and the entire eve universe is availible to play in... that with molden heath as a home base DNS will literally be able to just take the whole freaking universe.
[b]unless, there is a PC reset at that time freeing all disstricts, and limiting the amount of corp funds that can be spent in PC.[b]
if PC isnt reset, when the rest of the universe opens up, then no one will have anything, and the game will lose what little purpose it had..
You do realize how big the EVE universe actually is right?
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2365
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:15:00 -
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Stiddlefaxq wrote:D legendary hero wrote:that once PC opens up and the entire eve universe is availible to play in... that with molden heath as a home base DNS will literally be able to just take the whole freaking universe.
[b]unless, there is a PC reset at that time freeing all disstricts, and limiting the amount of corp funds that can be spent in PC.[b]
if PC isnt reset, when the rest of the universe opens up, then no one will have anything, and the game will lose what little purpose it had.. They are just going to open it up at euro timers again and you will see the rebirth of Chronos. Speculation!
...w-who told you??
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2365
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:17:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Does it matter? They allready got so much isk from it that they could flood the complete universe with clone packs on the initial landgrab. And even then they probs would just take everything by force with the elite playerbase.
Darky, I don't want to be mean but.... "They"? Really?
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns
Dark Taboo
389
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:19:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:I've said this in war room and got a reply from a few DNS members of pretty much "We just don't want to take over anything past Molden heath"
Well of course they're going to say that, there isn't anything else available!
Am I the only person that sees this as obvious?
I would fully expect DNS to take over the universe when it all opens up to PC unless something changes.
Minmatar & Gallente A.R.C. Program Instructor
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2245
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:21:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:that once PC opens up and the entire eve universe is availible to play in... that with molden heath as a home base DNS will literally be able to just take the whole freaking universe.
[b]unless, there is a PC reset at that time freeing all disstricts, and limiting the amount of corp funds that can be spent in PC.[b]
if PC isnt reset, when the rest of the universe opens up, then no one will have anything, and the game will lose what little purpose it had..
that wont happen... once the universe opens up and eve pilots have skin in the game, meaning to do their thing they will need districts, dns will get obliterated by the organization, power and wealth of eve corps....
they will either buy what they need from dns or take it. and dns wont be able to do much about it...
also if that ever happened and dust got popular, you would quickly see that even with all their experience, the best dust players right now wont be as good as the players who would be playing this game if it ever is a AAA shooter.
this game makes me sad....
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Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1691
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Posted - 2014.04.30 01:25:00 -
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Sourdough Muffins wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Does it matter? They allready got so much isk from it that they could flood the complete universe with clone packs on the initial landgrab. And even then they probs would just take everything by force with the elite playerbase. Complete asset deletion would fix that. Keep everyone's SP the same but delete all ISK, all suits, ect that could negatively affect the game. Especially, if they plan on linking the economy to EVE online. Doing it as is would crash EVE's and pretty much kill their only money maker(EVE).
Uhh no thanks! I earned my 120 million ISK that's sitting in my wallet right now and it was all earned with sweat, blood, and tears in pubs. I've only played one PC match when PC was released and I even went negative that match.
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