How so, his statement is quite accurate. Have you ever just repeatedly flown an ADS?

And who's "we"? I don't believe you can speak for anyone other than yourself.

I'd rather that we just tier vehicles with AV.

Neither AV or vehicles will be balanced when there is only one tier of vehicles, and three of AV. There can never be an equilibrium...

OR

We can remove tiers completely, and follow the Eve system, which uses Basic, Tier 1, and Tier 2 assets. Others have suggested we do this with infantry, which holds promise of greater promise than Basic, STD, ADV, and PRO.

You can argue that vehicles are already tiered with modules being tiered, but that just doesn't work. The vehicles itself can never perform better than another tank or militia, and never better against AV. The "waves of opportunity" philosophy doesn't work, it sounds nice in balance, but in practice has not worked, and is ineffective.

With only one tier of vehicles, they either have to be excessively overpowered, or excessively underpowered. There isn't a magical way to achieve balance when one side or the other has to be gimped.

I hate the performance of my Incubus, but if this is only the STD varient of it, then I'm fine with that. But it would need to be cheaper. At most 250,000isk.

ISK cost should not be a substitute for player skill.

Just because one player spends 500k+ should not mean that it should take a quarter of the other team's players to take him out.

If it only takes one player to operate a vehicle, then one player should be at least CAPABLE of destroying that vehicle.

Otherwise, you throw game balance out the window and might as well just hand the win to whoever's wearing the most expensive suit.

No it isn't.

If you think it is, you are just as stupid as he is.

Do you know what the "have you ever driven/flown/used/whatever" is? It is a bullshit statement almost always made by someone who is afraid of losing their iwinbutton.

You are wrong, he is wrong, and if you both even come close to believe that line of crap you are just incredibly stupid.

It depends on the load out or 'thing', as things stand more and more people are and will continue to skill into tanks and assault drop ships because of how amazingly good they are. Eventually games will start and everyone will spam calling in their 'win wagon' of choice until the cap is reached for each team.

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I hear this quite too often when it comes to balance against vehicles, especially tanks.

Now, I must agree that CCP couldn't have dumbed down vehicles any more than they have already.

However, instead of buffing AV and/or nerfing vehicles (tanks in particular), why not add an extra dimension towards tanking and vehicles in general?

Why not give them capacitors that must be managed carefully? I won't go into any details here because there've been loads of threads discussing capacitors already.

I've heard from some people say that capacitors will make vehicles too hard and unmanageable; I disagree with those people. I think that that must be exactly what we need: adding an extra dimension to think about to make tanks and vehicles in general harder to use (and more rewarding) without buffing/nerfing anything.

What do you all think about this?

Nothing in this game takes skill and adding capacitors to vehicles won't change that. All people will do is pull back when it starts to get low.

So you haven't ever flown one. I don't want to hear your bias statement as to how all vehicles are easy mode.

Thank you for proving how incredibly dim-witted you are. See you just made an assumption, and in doing so you somehow tried to justify a moronic "call to authority" fallacious argument. Whats more is you did not do any research, if you had you would know ALL OF MY SP IS IN CALDARI VEHCILES. This means yes I can and do fly pythons. They are retardedly overpowered.

Now quit being stupid and let the adults talk kid.

That's the POINT. That's what vehicles are supposed to do now when their cooldowns kick in, but the current mechanics mean they don't have to.

Still you have yet to state how they are overpowered

1: you read that wrong. read it again.

2: This isn't a binary system, nor does a binary system ever works.