DUST Search - Does PC cater to 1% of the playerbase?

CUSE TOWN333 wrote:

BrotherofHavok wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

But this is so telling of how people are in real life. Here we have DNS controlling most of MH. What does the majority do? They just whine about it. Want CCP to step in and change it. Instead of sitting down with other mercs and pooling strength from all over the globe to at least make a stand against the DNS alliance. Just like folks in the US who complain about problems but never unite to make better changes, hoping that being a internet revolutionist with a petition from change.org can make an impact. It's quite pitiful really.

Over the last 3 weeks there has been exactly that above! Every day alliances and corporations were pooling resources to try and attack multiple districts of DNS to take them over. What happened? Besides large number of losses, DNS lost 2 districts, and large numbers of players said they would give up on PC matches because of how UNPLAYABLE it is. Every game lagged harder then ever before seen even with precautions in place (low resoultions set to PS3s, removal of unnecessary chat windows, restarting the ps3 before hand and others).

Preemptive strike against rebuttals:

Lag is an accepted part of PC. Why? How is it acceptable when my vehicles explode in midair from absolutely ZERO enemy fire or when they hit a bump the wrong way? Why does it take me 30 seconds to cross a 10 meter road? Why do I only see what's shooting at me when I die (non-cloak kills).
Get a better connection: I have 75mbps download speed and 30mbps upload speed. Find me a faster connection that a normal civilian like myself can get and afford.
Play through the lag: See #1 above and kill yourself 1,000,000 times over.
HTFU: See #'s 1 and 3 above and kill yourself a billion times over on top of #3.
"well you're obviously not a competitive player"... really? I'm playing an FPS and have the strong urge to throttle enemies with my bare hands if I could. How can I get more competitive?
Get better teammates if you lose all the time: Really? The best of my corporation and/or alliance and that's what you've got to say? 30mil plus SP players are crap players? **** off...

I could keep going but I'm sure that I'm just on a Soap box now and you probably don't want to read it. Or you're the idiotic trolls that you are and have already argued the above points even though I no longer give a ****.

yeah PC does not lag anymore so get back in there soldier.

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Reiki Jubo Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 419	Posted - 2014.04.27 09:53:00 - [1] - Quote the statement was made early on that ccp made pc small because they didnt want to exclude smaller corps. in retrospect all they did was cater to the 1% of the elite slayer player type. 16 player battles even phase out support style players and basically created the unbalanced logi everyman soldier who can do everything. isnt this game supposed to support every playstyle? nothing makes pc worse than it allows roving bands of 16 players to control molden heath. large groups like PRO, KEQ, STB and Molon Labe are made useless because they can never bring their number to bear. no option exists for larger battles. lack of foresight is responsible for the blue donut. if ur corp has an elite slayer 16 man squad u can participate, if not ur just wasting ur time. why didnt the game implement small, medium and large districts for battles of different sizes along with a defenders advantage? its sad that we still cant make any changes to how our districts maps are set up or drop in assets during a battle, but even worse than that is the fact that pc is designed for such a small amount of dust 514 players.
Tolen Rosas Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 379	Posted - 2014.04.27 09:55:00 - [2] - Quote claps glad someone finally said it.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12764	Posted - 2014.04.27 09:56:00 - [3] - Quote What did you want? 64v64? Dust can't support it. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
Prius Vecht Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 346	Posted - 2014.04.27 10:12:00 - [4] - Quote Its too predictable from a reinforcements standpoint too. I always thought more guesswork/strategy should have been involved. One clone pack? No Way. Let attackers and defenders pay to have more players on the field/clone reinforcements and reveal the size of the enemy force when the battle starts. STB has 24 players with 700 clones to our 16/150? ouch. Would make PC more organic and exciting.
Tolen Rosas Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 379	Posted - 2014.04.27 10:15:00 - [5] - Quote Prius Vecht wrote: Its too predictable from a reinforcements standpoint too. I always thought more guesswork/strategy should have been involved. One clone pack? No Way. Let attackers and defenders pay to have more players on the field/clone reinforcements and reveal the size of the enemy force when the battle starts. STB has 24 players with 700 clones to our 16/150? ouch. Would make PC more organic and exciting. exactamundo! asymmetrical warfare is anti new eden.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 4080	Posted - 2014.04.27 10:18:00 - [6] - Quote Have you even read the GD section over time? PC is a competitive setting, most people in the GD (not all) wouldn't stand a chance in PC and would cry foul. It's not about catering. It's about being competitive. But this is so telling of how people are in real life. Here we have DNS controlling most of MH. What does the majority do? They just whine about it. Want CCP to step in and change it. Instead of sitting down with other mercs and pooling strength from all over the globe to at least make a stand against the DNS alliance. Just like folks in the US who complain about problems but never unite to make better changes, hoping that being a internet revolutionist with a petition from change.org can make an impact. It's quite pitiful really. The lack of foresight and care of the community brought this about. It didn't happen over night, ya know. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Faquira Bleuetta Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 348	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:22:00 - [7] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What did you want? 64v64? Dust can't support it. better 128vs128 ps4 version
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3120	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:33:00 - [8] - Quote "Laser focussed on the ps3" Why the fk do people think dust could possibly get better on the ps3?, we defo need it on ps4 at some point but until then all you can realistically expect is nerfs/buffs and tweaks with sprinkles (suits, vehicles and weapons). Maybe they'd be stupid enough to try and make dust that good and fry our ps3's in the process. Also some old patch notes stated that maps were "now unlocked for 24v24" but obviously they haven't optimised it but i personally think they can't, the ps3 has 512mb of RAM lol. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3120	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:47:00 - [9] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Have you even read the GD section over time? PC is a competitive setting, most people in the GD (not all) wouldn't stand a chance in PC and would cry foul. It's not about catering. It's about being competitive. But this is so telling of how people are in real life. Here we have DNS controlling most of MH. What does the majority do? They just whine about it. Want CCP to step in and change it. Instead of sitting down with other mercs and pooling strength from all over the globe to at least make a stand against the DNS alliance. Just like folks in the US who complain about problems but never unite to make better changes, hoping that being a internet revolutionist with a petition from change.org can make an impact. It's quite pitiful really. The lack of foresight and care of the community brought this about. It didn't happen over night, ya know. Actually its a simple case of never having enough isk. An alliance would have to spend about a year sat on passive isk and mechanic abuse to have a realistic shot. Even if DNS were complete sht they'd have enough to isk troll anyone out of PC. Let's say an alliance did that, they'd still be a year behind DNS now having gathered 2 years worth. I know PC isn't meant to truly be won but who can be bothered with all that?, for nothing anyway lol. Come on now, you know as well as I do that you'd have to be an idiot to ignore that and simply believe and hope it can be done. I'm also an advocate of DNS in the fact that CCP has to do something now, they have to actually get some balls and make some fking decisions for once rather than just nerf or buff like passive aggressive, indecisive biachs. Granted some people do simply just whine its not fair though, iv seen it. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 211	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:50:00 - [10] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What did you want? 64v64? Dust can't support it. Devs said it can I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits

TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3120	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:51:00 - [11] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What did you want? 64v64? Dust can't support it. Devs said it can No, hardware spec on ps3 says gtfo. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3120	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:53:00 - [12] - Quote Oh and PC was meant to be something your corp works toward but its just fundamentally sht but sadly most can't actually see it. Even the ones who say they can usually think simply lowering clone packs prices and stuff will help when that just sugar coating a turd. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 211	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:00:00 - [13] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What did you want? 64v64? Dust can't support it. Devs said it can No, hardware spec on ps3 says gtfo. Son... I think you don't know your PS3 power. Game called MAG on the same PS3, that is in your room, could hold 128v128 so 64v64 is laughable for your Sony PlayStation 3 I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 825	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:01:00 - [14] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Have you even read the GD section over time? PC is a competitive setting, most people in the GD (not all) wouldn't stand a chance in PC and would cry foul. It's not about catering. It's about being competitive. But this is so telling of how people are in real life. Here we have DNS controlling most of MH. What does the majority do? They just whine about it. Want CCP to step in and change it. Instead of sitting down with other mercs and pooling strength from all over the globe to at least make a stand against the DNS alliance. Just like folks in the US who complain about problems but never unite to make better changes, hoping that being a internet revolutionist with a petition from change.org can make an impact. It's quite pitiful really. The lack of foresight and care of the community brought this about. It didn't happen over night, ya know. The lack of intervention by the people who created the rules are to blame. Even if the community bands together, they cannot change the laws that were created to discourage preventing this type of situation. They would be forced to follow the same rules they find detestable, and jump through far more hoops and grandeur to achieve what shouldn't be allowed in the first place. To use your analogy of the USA, DNS are the large banks using flaws in a system designed to be unfair to anyone outside their elite circle, and lawmakers are doing absolutely nothing to cull their despicable behavior, thus giving them the means to continue to shaft every American because What they are doing isn't against the law. The rules of PC are what needs to be changed, not the communities need to be involved in a corrupt system that favors the ones who have been abusing it the longest.
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 57	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:15:00 - [15] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: But this is so telling of how people are in real life. Here we have DNS controlling most of MH. What does the majority do? They just whine about it. Want CCP to step in and change it. Instead of sitting down with other mercs and pooling strength from all over the globe to at least make a stand against the DNS alliance. Just like folks in the US who complain about problems but never unite to make better changes, hoping that being a internet revolutionist with a petition from change.org can make an impact. It's quite pitiful really. Over the last 3 weeks there has been exactly that above! Every day alliances and corporations were pooling resources to try and attack multiple districts of DNS to take them over. What happened? Besides large number of losses, DNS lost 2 districts, and large numbers of players said they would give up on PC matches because of how UNPLAYABLE it is. Every game lagged harder then ever before seen even with precautions in place (low resoultions set to PS3s, removal of unnecessary chat windows, restarting the ps3 before hand and others). Preemptive strike against rebuttals: Lag is an accepted part of PC. Why? How is it acceptable when my vehicles explode in midair from absolutely ZERO enemy fire or when they hit a bump the wrong way? Why does it take me 30 seconds to cross a 10 meter road? Why do I only see what's shooting at me when I die (non-cloak kills). Get a better connection: I have 75mbps download speed and 30mbps upload speed. Find me a faster connection that a normal civilian like myself can get and afford. Play through the lag: See #1 above and kill yourself 1,000,000 times over. HTFU: See #'s 1 and 3 above and kill yourself a billion times over on top of #3. "well you're obviously not a competitive player"... really? I'm playing an FPS and have the strong urge to throttle enemies with my bare hands if I could. How can I get more competitive? Get better teammates if you lose all the time: Really? The best of my corporation and/or alliance and that's what you've got to say? 30mil plus SP players are crap players? ** off... I could keep going but I'm sure that I'm just on a Soap box now and you probably don't want to read it. Or you're the idiotic trolls that you are and have already argued the above points even though I no longer give a **. Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 59	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:19:00 - [16] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What did you want? 64v64? Dust can't support it. Devs said it can No, hardware spec on ps3 says gtfo. Son... I think you don't know your PS3 power. Game called MAG on the same PS3, that is in your room, could hold 128v128 so 64v64 is laughable for your Sony PlayStation 3 My PS3 heats up a lot after a couple of hours playing Dust 16v16. Can Mag hold 128v128? Sure. Could it hold it for a couple of hours? I don't know. Plus, the graphics were not nearly as poorly optimized as Dust AND were 4 years ago. Dust (while not much better I'll agree) is using different methods to render, create, implement and gather data which leads to issues with the PS3 mechanics and hardware. And like Mag, it would be a broken mechanic for a number of players. Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3120	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:25:00 - [17] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What did you want? 64v64? Dust can't support it. Devs said it can No, hardware spec on ps3 says gtfo. Son... I think you don't know your PS3 power. Game called MAG on the same PS3, that is in your room, could hold 128v128 so 64v64 is laughable for your Sony PlayStation 3 Son?, if you are older than 27 then fair play mate lol. The way dust works is different to mag. Dust already pushes the ps3 and did back in beta which resulted in crashes and hard locks with some unlucky people having dust fry their ps3 but I'd put those particular cases down to people not cleaning out their ps3 now and then. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Tolen Rosas Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 382	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:50:00 - [18] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Have you even read the GD section over time? PC is a competitive setting, most people in the GD (not all) wouldn't stand a chance in PC and would cry foul. It's not about catering. It's about being competitive. But this is so telling of how people are in real life. Here we have DNS controlling most of MH. What does the majority do? They just whine about it. Want CCP to step in and change it. Instead of sitting down with other mercs and pooling strength from all over the globe to at least make a stand against the DNS alliance. Just like folks in the US who complain about problems but never unite to make better changes, hoping that being a internet revolutionist with a petition from change.org can make an impact. It's quite pitiful really. The lack of foresight and care of the community brought this about. It didn't happen over night, ya know. this is foolishness. that pc is decided by 16 players is a sham by itself. isnt this new eden?
Prius Vecht Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 349	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:57:00 - [19] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: To use your analogy of the USA, DNS are the large banks using flaws in a system designed to be unfair to anyone outside their elite circle, and lawmakers are doing absolutely nothing to cull their despicable behavior, thus giving them the means to continue to shaft every American because What they are doing isn't against the law. The rules of PC are what needs to be changed, not the communities need to be involved in a corrupt system that favors the ones who have been abusing it the longest. Never seen a more accurate, measured and poignant response than this on these forums.
Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 212	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:03:00 - [20] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Kovinis Sparagas wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Kovinis Sparagas wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What did you want? 64v64? Dust can't support it. Devs said it can No, hardware spec on ps3 says gtfo. Son... I think you don't know your PS3 power. Game called MAG on the same PS3, that is in your room, could hold 128v128 so 64v64 is laughable for your Sony PlayStation 3 Son?, if you are older than 27 then fair play mate lol. The way dust works is different to mag. Dust already pushes the ps3 and did back in beta which resulted in crashes and hard locks with some unlucky people having dust fry their ps3 but I'd put those particular cases down to people not cleaning out their ps3 now and then. Will be 26 this summer - dammit! I was so close :D Why I have to be so young? lol I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits

Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 991	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:07:00 - [21] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What did you want? 64v64? Dust can't support it. Even just 18v18 would be better; it would be nice to have 3 full squads in a match. Support Orbital Spawns
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 168	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:07:00 - [22] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What did you want? 64v64? Dust can't support it. It's not Dust that can't support it. It's the PS3 All empires fall. We'll be watching, we'll be waiting, we'll be that spark that starts the fires of doom.
Prius Vecht Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 349	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:16:00 - [23] - Quote SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What did you want? 64v64? Dust can't support it. It's not Dust that can't support it. It's the PS3 I'm sorry but that's not an excuse. Tier it, think outside the box....maybe stage 8 simultaneous 16 vs 16 battles that represent a medium or large district. Someone said it earlier, that a 16 man team of mercs can defend/attack a district is comical. These maps are massive--the battles should be too. I'm sorry but If someone would have told me 4 years ago that the best future alternative to MAG would have been a game with less gamemodes, a tiny playerbase, less simultaneous players, worse graphics and gameplay i'd have thought he was crazy. The only thing bigger in Dust is the map size.
pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 461	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:34:00 - [24] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Have you even read the GD section over time? PC is a competitive setting, most people in the GD (not all) wouldn't stand a chance in PC and would cry foul. It's not about catering. It's about being competitive. But this is so telling of how people are in real life. Here we have DNS controlling most of MH. What does the majority do? They just whine about it. Want CCP to step in and change it. Instead of sitting down with other mercs and pooling strength from all over the globe to at least make a stand against the DNS alliance. Just like folks in the US who complain about problems but never unite to make better changes, hoping that being a internet revolutionist with a petition from change.org can make an impact. It's quite pitiful really. The lack of foresight and care of the community brought this about. It didn't happen over night, ya know. you're clearly 14 or never even been here. keep dreaming and hating kid
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1925	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:51:00 - [25] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Oh and PC was meant to be something your corp works toward but its just fundamentally sht but sadly most can't actually see it. Even the ones who say they can usually think simply lowering clone packs prices and stuff will help when that just sugar coating a turd. I've been screaming this from the rooftops for nearly a year now but I'm just some nobody who has boycotted PC from day one because it was obvious from then that it was all that you've just laid out above. **. It was at first and now it is just sugar-coated **, spoonfed to the spoiled brats. It needs to be scrapped entirely and reworked from square one. If CCP wants to have something that they can truly be proud of, EVERYTHING about PC as we know it needs to go away. I know they can do it, my only wonder is if they actually have the balls to. Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 868	Posted - 2014.04.27 15:33:00 - [26] - Quote Yes. I agree with the OP 100%. Munch Minmatar Patriot (Level 7) Dedicated Sniper
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 448	Posted - 2014.04.27 15:58:00 - [27] - Quote BrotherofHavok wrote: Michael Arck wrote: But this is so telling of how people are in real life. Here we have DNS controlling most of MH. What does the majority do? They just whine about it. Want CCP to step in and change it. Instead of sitting down with other mercs and pooling strength from all over the globe to at least make a stand against the DNS alliance. Just like folks in the US who complain about problems but never unite to make better changes, hoping that being a internet revolutionist with a petition from change.org can make an impact. It's quite pitiful really. Over the last 3 weeks there has been exactly that above! Every day alliances and corporations were pooling resources to try and attack multiple districts of DNS to take them over. What happened? Besides large number of losses, DNS lost 2 districts, and large numbers of players said they would give up on PC matches because of how UNPLAYABLE it is. Every game lagged harder then ever before seen even with precautions in place (low resoultions set to PS3s, removal of unnecessary chat windows, restarting the ps3 before hand and others). Preemptive strike against rebuttals: Lag is an accepted part of PC. Why? How is it acceptable when my vehicles explode in midair from absolutely ZERO enemy fire or when they hit a bump the wrong way? Why does it take me 30 seconds to cross a 10 meter road? Why do I only see what's shooting at me when I die (non-cloak kills). Get a better connection: I have 75mbps download speed and 30mbps upload speed. Find me a faster connection that a normal civilian like myself can get and afford. Play through the lag: See #1 above and kill yourself 1,000,000 times over. HTFU: See #'s 1 and 3 above and kill yourself a billion times over on top of #3. "well you're obviously not a competitive player"... really? I'm playing an FPS and have the strong urge to throttle enemies with my bare hands if I could. How can I get more competitive? Get better teammates if you lose all the time: Really? The best of my corporation and/or alliance and that's what you've got to say? 30mil plus SP players are crap players? ** off... I could keep going but I'm sure that I'm just on a Soap box now and you probably don't want to read it. Or you're the idiotic trolls that you are and have already argued the above points even though I no longer give a **. yeah PC does not lag anymore so get back in there soldier. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Kushmir Nadian Valor Coalition 403	Posted - 2014.04.27 16:14:00 - [28] - Quote Some good points. V-C was a factor in PC from the beginning until just recently when the sheer monotony of Dust finally got to most of our elite guys and most left until CCP gives us more of the game we were promised. Still, I agree with the OP. 16v16 to decide the fate of planets? SERIOUSLY? 2001 called, it wants its multiplayer back. Replication Veteran. I support Tech De Ra for CPM.
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 61	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:29:00 - [29] - Quote Prius Vecht wrote: SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What did you want? 64v64? Dust can't support it. It's not Dust that can't support it. It's the PS3 I'm sorry but that's not an excuse. Tier it, think outside the box....maybe stage 8 simultaneous 16 vs 16 battles that represent a medium or large district. Someone said it earlier, that a 16 man team of mercs can defend/attack a district is comical. These maps are massive--the battles should be too. I'm sorry but If someone would have told me 4 years ago that the best future alternative to MAG would have been a game with less gamemodes, a tiny playerbase, less simultaneous players, worse graphics and gameplay i'd have thought he was crazy. The only thing bigger in Dust is the map size. Just an idea. What about every "battle" that a corp does is like 1 of 3 or something? like 3 attacks spaced out through the day and it's a matter of winning 2 out of 3 matches rather than killing all the clones in a district AND winning a match? Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User
BrotherofHavok PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 61	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:34:00 - [30] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: BrotherofHavok wrote: Michael Arck wrote: But this is so telling of how people are in real life. Here we have DNS controlling most of MH. What does the majority do? They just whine about it. Want CCP to step in and change it. Instead of sitting down with other mercs and pooling strength from all over the globe to at least make a stand against the DNS alliance. Just like folks in the US who complain about problems but never unite to make better changes, hoping that being a internet revolutionist with a petition from change.org can make an impact. It's quite pitiful really. Over the last 3 weeks there has been exactly that above! Every day alliances and corporations were pooling resources to try and attack multiple districts of DNS to take them over. What happened? Besides large number of losses, DNS lost 2 districts, and large numbers of players said they would give up on PC matches because of how UNPLAYABLE it is. Every game lagged harder then ever before seen even with precautions in place (low resoultions set to PS3s, removal of unnecessary chat windows, restarting the ps3 before hand and others). Preemptive strike against rebuttals: Lag is an accepted part of PC. Why? How is it acceptable when my vehicles explode in midair from absolutely ZERO enemy fire or when they hit a bump the wrong way? Why does it take me 30 seconds to cross a 10 meter road? Why do I only see what's shooting at me when I die (non-cloak kills). Get a better connection: I have 75mbps download speed and 30mbps upload speed. Find me a faster connection that a normal civilian like myself can get and afford. Play through the lag: See #1 above and kill yourself 1,000,000 times over. HTFU: See #'s 1 and 3 above and kill yourself a billion times over on top of #3. "well you're obviously not a competitive player"... really? I'm playing an FPS and have the strong urge to throttle enemies with my bare hands if I could. How can I get more competitive? Get better teammates if you lose all the time: Really? The best of my corporation and/or alliance and that's what you've got to say? 30mil plus SP players are crap players? ** off... I could keep going but I'm sure that I'm just on a Soap box now and you probably don't want to read it. Or you're the idiotic trolls that you are and have already argued the above points even though I no longer give a . yeah PC does not lag anymore so get back in there soldier. Really? Doesn't lag any more? really.... Not every client suffers the lag that everyone is talking about so if you're one of the few players that no longer lags congradu-***-lations to you. If "lag" really is gone from PC... I'll... ! I'll eat my shoe, shove a carrot up my ass, dance the chicken dance while screaming the star-spangled banner at the top of my lungs AND post it all online! WITH A MOTHER-***** CHERRY ON TOP! EDIT: Sorry, I get very heated about arguements that have been going on since the introduction of whatever (PC, lag, hit-detection issues, OP suits, OP weapons, UP weapons, etc.). ..........I'm not changing anything though........... Sincerely, Your Multi-purpose Everything User



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