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Forever ETC
703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:48:00 -
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Has anyone noticed the increased amount of people running Proto? I mean it's just pubs, why put your best out there? Are you really that scared to die, that you have to use your top gear against MLT and ADV users. I wonder what you guys run in PC. I know that gear doesn't make you a better player, but when I get the jump and unload a full clip and you simply turn around and go pew. I'm Dead.
Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd.
Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013
THIS IS AMARR!!!
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
1844
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:50:00 -
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Sounds more like poor game performance...
Do the math.. Even with a basic fit.. You have a lot of damage output as far as math is concerned.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
2254
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:55:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Has anyone noticed the increased amount of people running Proto? I mean it's just pubs, why put your best out there? Are you really that scared to die, that you have to use your top gear against MLT and ADV users. I wonder what you guys run in PC. I know that gear doesn't make you a better player, but when I get the jump and unload a full clip and you simply turn around and go pew. I'm Dead.
I already have 20+ fittings, its way more than I'd like really, but its basically all my guns on 2 different suits + specialised PC only fitings.
By going enhanced too thats another 20 or so fittings...
At least I use enh weapons on one of the suits, its just totally speaking a much better suit that way compared to putitng proto weapons on it.
And yes, the suit with the enhanced weapons are primarily for pubs, the other one for PC or if things get too rough, (and some other situations too).
And no, my max tank is 727 HP so if the described scenario happens its a case off poor shooting on the attackers end and me getting some nice headshots in.
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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RolyatDerTeufel
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:55:00 -
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#Letsuseprotoinpubs #causewereall #badatthisgame
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
2567
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:57:00 -
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I like my proto equipment... As long as I can afford to run it I'm not running anything but my proto logi. |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:59:00 -
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A better question is "Why not use Proto in Pubs?" There is so much ISK and so many have nearly infinite amounts of it. Noone cares about competition, it's all about humiliating your opponent. |
KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
2254
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:02:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:#Letsuseprotoinpubs #causewereall #badatthisgame
No, not really. Most players with too much isk are either a part of a large and good corp that has been succesfull in PC.
Or like me,
I've gotten payed to ring for people for a long time now. I could make 50 M in a weekend or as much as 70 M at the peaks.
I have way more isk now than I had after the giant payout around launch, and I have given away a couple of hundred mills.
So, why bother about being economic when the isk just keeps piling up?
To get a challenge? Well thats certainly a point. For me its more about going up against larger groups of players, attacking the strong not the weak point and so on. Anyone with a smudge of skill can be a "periffereee hero" in this game....
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Bax Zanith
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:03:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:#Letsuseprotoinpubs #causewereall #badatthisgame And what about the new players and poor players? Not everyone has the SP or ISK to run it contently. Do you plan on splashing holy water on them and hope they suddenly "get gud?"
I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:05:00 -
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A lot of ISK rewards from events paired with new equipment means that everybody is trying their newest stuff. But, their bad gameplay will correct their wallets in no time and they'll be back to STD & ADV sooner than SoonGäó. |
Ridire Greine
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:05:00 -
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If someone can give me a good reason why I shouldn't use Proto, except for ISK hoarding, then I'm all ears.
"Jolly cooperation"
Knight Solaire
Knight Soiaire, CEO, Farmer, Protostomper
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
744
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:12:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Has anyone noticed the increased amount of people running Proto? I mean it's just pubs, why put your best out there? Are you really that scared to die, that you have to use your top gear against MLT and ADV users. I wonder what you guys run in PC. I know that gear doesn't make you a better player, but when I get the jump and unload a full clip and you simply turn around and go pew. I'm Dead. What should I do with my ISK? Run FW? Why? It's a one sided **** hole and I still get hatemail for running proto anything there.
There's nothing to do with the ISK we get except burn it in pubs.
TDBS
My * points to her interface{} if you know what I mean
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RolyatDerTeufel
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:14:00 -
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*whispers* the secret to dust is getting good in militia gear
Cause proto is bad and you should feel bad?
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Beeeees
Militaires Sans Jeux
550
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:16:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:If someone can give me a good reason why I shouldn't use Proto, except for ISK hoarding, then I'm all ears. Not halving the playerbase again would be a good start.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:17:00 -
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Got a ton of free neo scout Gk.0s so yeah. |
Denn Maell
PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives
351
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:24:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:If someone can give me a good reason why I shouldn't use Proto, except for ISK hoarding, then I'm all ears.
Don't you find it boring? I mean, if you have a suit with twice the HP of most of the players who are either new, or just showing up in Pubs for a paycheck (let's be honest, it does feel that way from time to time), wouldn't you prefer to actually find some opponents that challenge you?
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
543
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:26:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Has anyone noticed the increased amount of people running Proto? I mean it's just pubs, why put your best out there? Are you really that scared to die, that you have to use your top gear against MLT and ADV users. I wonder what you guys run in PC. I know that gear doesn't make you a better player, but when I get the jump and unload a full clip and you simply turn around and go pew. I'm Dead. What should I do with my ISK? Run FW? Why? It's a one sided **** hole and I still get hatemail for running proto anything there. There's nothing to do with the ISK we get except burn it in pubs.
You could give it away to the poor so they can run better gear against you. That is if you really want some challenge.
Because, that's why.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:26:00 -
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It's fun killing them 5 times in a row before they ragequit. It only really sucks if they're rich...
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
Ehem...OBVIOUSER troll is OBVIOUSER
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
R 0 N 1 N
1288
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:26:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:RolyatDerTeufel wrote:#Letsuseprotoinpubs #causewereall #badatthisgame No, not really. Most players with too much isk are either a part of a large and good corp that has been succesfull in PC. Or like me, I've gotten payed to ring for people for a long time now. I could make 50 M in a weekend or as much as 70 M at the peaks. I have way more isk now than I had after the giant payout around launch, and I have given away a couple of hundred mills. So, why bother about being economic when the isk just keeps piling up? To get a challenge? Well thats certainly a point. For me its more about going up against larger groups of players, attacking the strong not the weak point and so on. Anyone with a smudge of skill can be a "periffereee hero" in this game....
Right. So running proto in pubs is attacking the 'strong' point is it?
Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
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RolyatDerTeufel
1688
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:36:00 -
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Beeeees wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:If someone can give me a good reason why I shouldn't use Proto, except for ISK hoarding, then I'm all ears. Not halving the playerbase again would be a good start.
This guy understand!
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Ridire Greine
347
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:44:00 -
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Denn Maell wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:If someone can give me a good reason why I shouldn't use Proto, except for ISK hoarding, then I'm all ears. Don't you find it boring? I mean, if you have a suit with twice the HP of most of the players who are either new, or just showing up in Pubs for a paycheck (let's be honest, it does feel that way from time to time), wouldn't you prefer to actually find some opponents that challenge you?
I'm primarily a Min Scout so the idea I have twice the EHP of players who refuse to use Proto is wrong. (I've made BPO fits with more HP than my Scout)
I have the ISK and SP to run them. So I will, if a portion of the playerbase decide to quit because of that then that's no problem of mine.
"Jolly cooperation"
Knight Solaire
Knight Soiaire, CEO, Farmer, Protostomper
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Eruditus 920
Prodigy Ops
59
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:47:00 -
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OP,
I am sorry. I read these types of posts and I can no longer stay silent.
Everyone in this game busts their ass to grind for SP to get access to better gear only for these types to demand others to dumb down their arsenal for, why now? Why again? Why is that one more time? i grind hours to get better stuff to run Militia why? i am listening...because it kills you too much?
This is a losers mentality argument. "Please dumb it down so I feel better about me."
That ain't how life works nor is it how this "vidya game" works.
Christ HTFU
"It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it."
-Robert E. Lee
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:53:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:OP,
I am sorry. I read these types of posts and I can no longer stay silent.
Everyone in this game busts their ass to grind for SP to get access to better gear only for these types to demand others to dumb down their arsenal for, why now? Why again? Why is that one more time? i grind hours to get better stuff to run Militia why? i am listening...because it kills you too much?
This is a losers mentality argument. "Please dumb it down so I feel better about me."
That ain't how life works nor is it how this "vidya game" works.
Christ HTFU
Its a very thin line. We have a valid argument, so do you. I don't mind proto in pubs, its he que-sink making one whole team stacked. Its such a thin line its ridiculous. But arguing about it doesn't do anything, so basically we have to just deal with it I guess.
Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
2255
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:55:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:KingBabar wrote:RolyatDerTeufel wrote:#Letsuseprotoinpubs #causewereall #badatthisgame No, not really. Most players with too much isk are either a part of a large and good corp that has been succesfull in PC. Or like me, I've gotten payed to ring for people for a long time now. I could make 50 M in a weekend or as much as 70 M at the peaks. I have way more isk now than I had after the giant payout around launch, and I have given away a couple of hundred mills. So, why bother about being economic when the isk just keeps piling up? To get a challenge? Well thats certainly a point. For me its more about going up against larger groups of players, attacking the strong not the weak point and so on. Anyone with a smudge of skill can be a "periffereee hero" in this game.... Right. So running proto in pubs is attacking the 'strong' point is it?
No the way I play in pubs is.
Some people, like me, likes gaming best with a level of frustration. Getting shot at from 3 angles simultaneously, going head to head vs a fatty (Dark Cloud keeps bithcing me for that part) in my scout suit - that sort of fun.
Its still challenging enough to go into "the great red blob" all alone, trying to take out as many as possible before getting spotted, or trying to kill as many as you can before you go down.
My argument is about playstyles - there is plenty of challenge for those who seek it, proto or not.
Seing how well I can normally do in an enhanced setup - the proto argument just seems like the biggest silly excuse so many players have first of all for their lack of proper co-ordination, but also for their lack of gungame....
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Arcturis Vanguard
Red Star. EoN.
89
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:59:00 -
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I run proto because people run proto. The other reason is that I've grounded this game for almost a year and a half, so why not run my proto. The suits look better, weapons are black and when you see me in my scout ck.o it's to find you *** clackers. This scout don't clack. |
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.26 20:59:00 -
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QQing about proto in pubs is the oldest QQ in the book. if you think your going to shame people into running mlt gear with you cause thats what you want to run its never going to happen. in a pub there is a corn ball around every rock with heavys with rail rifles or proto rail tanks or thales snipers so you cant blame people for wanting to kick the crap out of anything thats red. i like to go by the proto peace treaty when i play if there is some scrub on the other team that killed me with some proto stuff then mines comeing out and we shall see how much bank he has. but sometimes new players get mixed up in the firefight i try not to shoot them and only go for a select few on the other team.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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Global Enforcer
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
51
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:01:00 -
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I don't understand what's the problem with guys running proto, I run a dren sent with adv hmg with milita bpo plates and bpo nade and the best iv done in it is 61-10 |
Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:01:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Sounds more like poor game performance...
Do the math.. Even with a basic fit.. You have a lot of damage output as far as math is concerned.
of course the first comment is a no skill DNS proto bear defending proto suits by trying to tell you how great basic gear is....
if its so great I wonder why they use proto....hmmmm
hmmmmm....
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.........
this game makes me sad....
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:02:00 -
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Yup, the co-ordination sucks. Playstyles do make a major difference in the definition of 'protostomping.' It changes every hour. As a scout, if I run a proto suit in pubs, no one will consider that stomping. But if I que up with a bunch of people, that's called stomping. The line is so thin its ridiculous. So, its fair for you to earn that gear, but its unfair for you to use it? Its annoying, but you just gotta deal.
Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
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Seymor Krelborn
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:07:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Has anyone noticed the increased amount of people running Proto? I mean it's just pubs, why put your best out there? Are you really that scared to die, that you have to use your top gear against MLT and ADV users. I wonder what you guys run in PC. I know that gear doesn't make you a better player, but when I get the jump and unload a full clip and you simply turn around and go pew. I'm Dead.
THE BLUE DONUT....that's why you are seeing more proto gear.... dns is full of very isk rich no talent protobears who, similar to child molesters get off on dominating the helpless....
just more proof to how the broken PC mechanics are game breaking.... leaving the new players who come to this game and the unfortunately poor at the mercy of the DNS exploiters with all that undeserved isk they generate from their cowardly district locking tactics...
but don't blame them.... blame ccp.
this game makes me sad....
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Ridire Greine
348
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Posted - 2014.04.26 21:07:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Bethhy wrote:Sounds more like poor game performance...
Do the math.. Even with a basic fit.. You have a lot of damage output as far as math is concerned.
of course the first comment is a no skill DNS proto bear defending proto suits by trying to tell you how great basic gear is.... if its so great I wonder why they use proto....hmmmm hmmmmm.... HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.........
Jealous much?
"Jolly cooperation"
Knight Solaire
Knight Soiaire, CEO, Farmer, Protostomper
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