DUST Search - Protos In Pubs

keno trader wrote:

JDEZ09 wrote:

Lol soo many of these threads made.

As the game continues to recieve free updates and expansions, there will hopefully be an avenue for newer players to get comfortable with Dust and its gamble-type of gameplay. PvE comes to mind when I say that. Supposedly this may be something in the future for the game. Hopefully it will allow newcomers to get a proper feel for the game. much like how alot of gamers like to hit up the single player campaign before diving right into multiplayer. It builds their confidence.

However, now is not the time for that. Now is the time for veterans to enjoy their hard work and persistence. Many of us have been telling all those CoD, BF3/4, Killzone, and etc guys to jump on board early on with this one, to at least give them that timeframe of passive SP accumulation. If you are late to the proto party, im sorry bra. You will get there too someday.

I typically run prototype gear against good opposing teams. I respect the Nyain Sans and the Teamplayers of Dust. I wouldt disrespect them by running non-challenging gear. It just so happens that this occurs Very often because good corps are active and always playing. If you get caught up in the crossfire for being a blue on their team then I apoligize, but I wont downgrade to standard or militia because that is detrimental to my team, not just myself. It is very selfish to run cheap gear like that when my teammates need the efficiency that hiher tiers offer. Plus, like many, we can afford these things. We have stockpiled weapons. we have fought valiantly in the factional region to accrue loyalty discounted prototype weaponry.

So pubs now are more like scrimmages for the big boys & gals of dust. learn to gamble with us.

"Because lets face it, Dust is about gambling. You just don't go to vegas with 10 bucks expecting anything great to happen."

Get to advanced racial variants and that will already give you a fighting chance. Specialize deeply at first, and then branch out to make you more versatile.

It took me about 2 months to get a proto suit. I'm not sure that's quite the friendliest way to go about making a game, especailly one that's on a console lol.

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BLUNT SMKR Ahrendee Mercenaries 48	Posted - 2014.04.27 06:21:00 - [61] - Quote I run proto in pubs cause i would rather have a proto suit n not need it then not have one n need it TeamWork>KDR I Don't Know Why They Grinning Them Suckers Ain't Winning I Could Tell You That Right From The Beginning
keno trader Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 165	Posted - 2014.04.27 06:38:00 - [62] - Quote Most of the scrub players are those who have never played quake, CS, or TF2. Or at the very least COD or Bf4. Puts on flame retardant clothing and prepares fire extinguisher. *1.8* --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes. *1.8* --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
G Torq ALTA B2O 728	Posted - 2014.04.27 06:46:00 - [63] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: A better question is "Why not use Proto in Pubs?" There is so much ISK and so many have nearly infinite amounts of it. Noone cares about competition, it's all about humiliating your opponent. Thank you for having a declared goal of humiliating new players and ensuring this game will die. Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
keno trader Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 165	Posted - 2014.04.27 06:55:00 - [64] - Quote G Torq wrote: Galvan Nized wrote: A better question is "Why not use Proto in Pubs?" There is so much ISK and so many have nearly infinite amounts of it. Noone cares about competition, it's all about humiliating your opponent. Thank you for having a declared goal of humiliating new players and ensuring this game will die. Preach it. Guess who hasn't had a girl friend before @Galvan. *1.8* --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes. *1.8* --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 373	Posted - 2014.04.27 07:25:00 - [65] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: OP, I am sorry. I read these types of posts and I can no longer stay silent. Everyone in this game busts their ass to grind for SP to get access to better gear only for these types to demand others to dumb down their arsenal for, why now? Why again? Why is that one more time? i grind hours to get better stuff to run Militia why? i am listening...because it kills you too much? This is a losers mentality argument. "Please dumb it down so I feel better about me." That ain't how life works nor is it how this "vidya game" works. Christ HTFU Perfectly valid point as said many times before. But the real problem here is for those that cannot run proto, or even advanced, because they're relatively new to the game. Not only can they not match your gear, they are also at an earlier stage of understanding the game in general. Alena Ventrallis wrote: OP, buy a rubber band, there about a dollar for 50 at Office Depot. Spawn in the MCC and rubber band your left stick to walk into the wall. Repeat until you have enough SP to get proto gear, and enough ISK to run it consistently. After doing so, ask yourself, "Why wouldn't I run this if I can afford it?" Exactly. So ask yourself this: if this is what I had to do in order to compete, how long do I have to do it for? The answer is months and months, maybe a year depending how shrewd you are with SP investment. Now ask yourself: why the hell would I bother with a game that I have to AFK in for months to enjoy it somewhere down the line. TL;DR Now the game is a year old, the gap between vets and new(er) players is vast, because the only way to obtain better stuff is over time. Us vets are in a time bubble, untouchable by newer players. You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
TODDSTER024 Revive Repair Resupply 199	Posted - 2014.04.27 09:07:00 - [66] - Quote I've been using my 450 isk BPO fitting long enough to save up forr a hundred proto fittings. Its nice to use proto equipment for once, but when i still get killed in 0.7 seconds with a rail rife and loose a 268k isk fitting, still hurts. Andi lone wolf it so its not like i run proto 23.5/7
G Torq ALTA B2O 731	Posted - 2014.04.27 09:19:00 - [67] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Has anyone noticed the increased amount of people running Proto? I mean it's just pubs, why put your best out there? Are you really that scared to die, that you have to use your top gear against MLT and ADV users. I wonder what you guys run in PC. I know that gear doesn't make you a better player, but when I get the jump and unload a full clip and you simply turn around and go pew. I'm Dead. completely forgetting that in threads like this, I ought to advertise this: http://dust.thang.dk/market_stompometer.php Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
Yan Darn Science For Death 682	Posted - 2014.04.27 10:37:00 - [68] - Quote TODDSTER024 wrote: I've been using my 450 isk BPO fitting long enough to save up forr a hundred proto fittings. Its nice to use proto equipment for once, but when i still get killed in 0.7 seconds with a rail rife and loose a 268k isk fitting, still hurts. Andi lone wolf it so its not like i run proto 23.5/7 Spawning into a RE'd uplink Spawning into a OB. Getting Sniped/FGed/Railed Getting Shotgunned. Trying to run away from a heavy but have a blueberry getting in my way. Sprint/Terrain Glitches. Falling from the MCC and dying 'cause it lagged the moment I tried to activate dampeners. At least one of these will happen during a match - regardless of whether I'm wearing proto or not - if two happen I've not profited. I would have to die ten times in my most expensive valour fits to not profit. However - when squaded up, I'll wear more expensive stuff because: A) The rest of the squad usually is, and I want to keep up with them. B) Im less likely to die in general if squaded (especially if we have logis...). Squadding naturally promotes proto-stomping. Tiers are stupid. The Ghost of Bravo
noob cavman Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1360	Posted - 2014.04.27 10:51:00 - [69] - Quote But they only difference between my advance shotgun scout and proto is 0.5 ms and the shotty and remotes are better. I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Jollys quirky inconsistent sidekick. dem spandex yo
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 373	Posted - 2014.04.27 11:59:00 - [70] - Quote G Torq wrote: Forever ETC wrote: Has anyone noticed the increased amount of people running Proto? I mean it's just pubs, why put your best out there? Are you really that scared to die, that you have to use your top gear against MLT and ADV users. I wonder what you guys run in PC. I know that gear doesn't make you a better player, but when I get the jump and unload a full clip and you simply turn around and go pew. I'm Dead. completely forgetting that in threads like this, I ought to advertise this: http://dust.thang.dk/market_stompometer.php Wow, this is amazing, nice one! Be interesting to get a breakdown of indirect killing sales versus direct. e.g. I tend to run around in ADV (sometimes PRO since the 200 free gk.0 suits) G/1 or C/1 scout suits with ADV weapons and complex EWAR / kincats. I guess it's the suits that really dictate the level of stomping. [Edit] lol I'm such an idiot, it is only the weapons shown here. More interesting I found is the TryHardinator-¬ Really cool stuff You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz

Hawkings Greenback Red Star. EoN. 139	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:16:00 - [71] - Quote G Torq wrote: Forever ETC wrote: Has anyone noticed the increased amount of people running Proto? I mean it's just pubs, why put your best out there? Are you really that scared to die, that you have to use your top gear against MLT and ADV users. I wonder what you guys run in PC. I know that gear doesn't make you a better player, but when I get the jump and unload a full clip and you simply turn around and go pew. I'm Dead. completely forgetting that in threads like this, I ought to advertise this: http://dust.thang.dk/market_stompometer.php +1 Bookmarked GÇ£Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.GÇ¥ GÇò Frank Zappa
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3120	Posted - 2014.04.27 12:24:00 - [72] - Quote Not everyone can be bothered to try hard in mlt or std. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 556	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:37:00 - [73] - Quote Daily reminder that no matter how legit your reasons for running proto in pubs are, you are still the cancer that is killing this game by violently driving away any potential players. TOLD514
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2241	Posted - 2014.04.27 14:45:00 - [74] - Quote I've earned about 400m isk from just running bpo's in pubs so I now run proto cuz that's what I use in PC.. No need for me to use a lesser suit and change my tactics. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
RolyatDerTeufel 1699	Posted - 2014.04.27 16:04:00 - [75] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: RolyatDerTeufel wrote: #Letsuseprotoinpubs #causewereall #badatthisgame thats not how you use hashtags it would be #Letsuseprotoinpubscausewereallbadatthisgame #ido #what #I #wantwith #hashtags maybe I want to make it easier to search? Can't tell me how to do anything, #anitmymomma but again, #ProtoinPubs #causewerebadatDust514 Twitch.TV Live Stream YouTube Channel
X7 lion SWAMPERIUM 180	Posted - 2014.04.27 16:28:00 - [76] - Quote proto gallenete scout has a play style you cant run on any other suit, but tbh the people who do give no *****, we can play how ever we want to. Immortality will not protect you from me. I am death incarnate, you will die.
Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 560	Posted - 2014.04.27 16:45:00 - [77] - Quote X7 lion wrote: but tbh the people who do give no *****, we can play how ever we want to. You personally are killing this game-¦s playerbase. TOLD514
Aleph Rynedee Science For Death 84	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:09:00 - [78] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Has anyone noticed the increased amount of people running Proto? I mean it's just pubs, why put your best out there? Are you really that scared to die, that you have to use your top gear against MLT and ADV users. I don't think people are scared to die, that's a fact of life in New Eden. Keep in mind we've had some fairly substantial SP events in the past month or so, so there are many skills that have been capped which means there's a lot of shiny proto equipment just aching to be used. And really, where else would the teeming masses use their newly found toys? PC is essentially off limits to all but the most masochist of corps and FW is already an ISK sink running STD/ADV, why multiply your loses by another 5x to 8x?
keno trader Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 172	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:12:00 - [79] - Quote It's kind of an opportunistic thing. Sometimes, when someone picks up the strong scent of a blueberry team.....he/she feels the need to obtain a complete victory, even though it's completely unnecessary and downright mean at times. *1.8* --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes. *1.8* --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
JDEZ09 Dark Side Alliance 56	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:12:00 - [80] - Quote Lol soo many of these threads made. As the game continues to recieve free updates and expansions, there will hopefully be an avenue for newer players to get comfortable with Dust and its gamble-type of gameplay. PvE comes to mind when I say that. Supposedly this may be something in the future for the game. Hopefully it will allow newcomers to get a proper feel for the game. much like how alot of gamers like to hit up the single player campaign before diving right into multiplayer. It builds their confidence. However, now is not the time for that. Now is the time for veterans to enjoy their hard work and persistence. Many of us have been telling all those CoD, BF3/4, Killzone, and etc guys to jump on board early on with this one, to at least give them that timeframe of passive SP accumulation. If you are late to the proto party, im sorry bra. You will get there too someday. I typically run prototype gear against good opposing teams. I respect the Nyain Sans and the Teamplayers of Dust. I wouldt disrespect them by running non-challenging gear. It just so happens that this occurs Very often because good corps are active and always playing. If you get caught up in the crossfire for being a blue on their team then I apoligize, but I wont downgrade to standard or militia because that is detrimental to my team, not just myself. It is very selfish to run cheap gear like that when my teammates need the efficiency that hiher tiers offer. Plus, like many, we can afford these things. We have stockpiled weapons. we have fought valiantly in the factional region to accrue loyalty discounted prototype weaponry. So pubs now are more like scrimmages for the big boys & gals of dust. learn to gamble with us. "Because lets face it, Dust is about gambling. You just don't go to vegas with 10 bucks expecting anything great to happen." Get to advanced racial variants and that will already give you a fighting chance. Specialize deeply at first, and then branch out to make you more versatile.

keno trader Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 174	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:16:00 - [81] - Quote JDEZ09 wrote: Lol soo many of these threads made. As the game continues to recieve free updates and expansions, there will hopefully be an avenue for newer players to get comfortable with Dust and its gamble-type of gameplay. PvE comes to mind when I say that. Supposedly this may be something in the future for the game. Hopefully it will allow newcomers to get a proper feel for the game. much like how alot of gamers like to hit up the single player campaign before diving right into multiplayer. It builds their confidence. However, now is not the time for that. Now is the time for veterans to enjoy their hard work and persistence. Many of us have been telling all those CoD, BF3/4, Killzone, and etc guys to jump on board early on with this one, to at least give them that timeframe of passive SP accumulation. If you are late to the proto party, im sorry bra. You will get there too someday. I typically run prototype gear against good opposing teams. I respect the Nyain Sans and the Teamplayers of Dust. I wouldt disrespect them by running non-challenging gear. It just so happens that this occurs Very often because good corps are active and always playing. If you get caught up in the crossfire for being a blue on their team then I apoligize, but I wont downgrade to standard or militia because that is detrimental to my team, not just myself. It is very selfish to run cheap gear like that when my teammates need the efficiency that hiher tiers offer. Plus, like many, we can afford these things. We have stockpiled weapons. we have fought valiantly in the factional region to accrue loyalty discounted prototype weaponry. So pubs now are more like scrimmages for the big boys & gals of dust. learn to gamble with us. "Because lets face it, Dust is about gambling. You just don't go to vegas with 10 bucks expecting anything great to happen." Get to advanced racial variants and that will already give you a fighting chance. Specialize deeply at first, and then branch out to make you more versatile. It took me about 2 months to get a proto suit. I'm not sure that's quite the friendliest way to go about making a game, especailly one that's on a console lol. *1.8* --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes. *1.8* --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
JDEZ09 Dark Side Alliance 56	Posted - 2014.04.27 17:41:00 - [82] - Quote keno trader wrote: JDEZ09 wrote: Lol soo many of these threads made. As the game continues to recieve free updates and expansions, there will hopefully be an avenue for newer players to get comfortable with Dust and its gamble-type of gameplay. PvE comes to mind when I say that. Supposedly this may be something in the future for the game. Hopefully it will allow newcomers to get a proper feel for the game. much like how alot of gamers like to hit up the single player campaign before diving right into multiplayer. It builds their confidence. However, now is not the time for that. Now is the time for veterans to enjoy their hard work and persistence. Many of us have been telling all those CoD, BF3/4, Killzone, and etc guys to jump on board early on with this one, to at least give them that timeframe of passive SP accumulation. If you are late to the proto party, im sorry bra. You will get there too someday. I typically run prototype gear against good opposing teams. I respect the Nyain Sans and the Teamplayers of Dust. I wouldt disrespect them by running non-challenging gear. It just so happens that this occurs Very often because good corps are active and always playing. If you get caught up in the crossfire for being a blue on their team then I apoligize, but I wont downgrade to standard or militia because that is detrimental to my team, not just myself. It is very selfish to run cheap gear like that when my teammates need the efficiency that hiher tiers offer. Plus, like many, we can afford these things. We have stockpiled weapons. we have fought valiantly in the factional region to accrue loyalty discounted prototype weaponry. So pubs now are more like scrimmages for the big boys & gals of dust. learn to gamble with us. "Because lets face it, Dust is about gambling. You just don't go to vegas with 10 bucks expecting anything great to happen." Get to advanced racial variants and that will already give you a fighting chance. Specialize deeply at first, and then branch out to make you more versatile. It took me about 2 months to get a proto suit. I'm not sure that's quite the friendliest way to go about making a game, especailly one that's on a console lol. Lol I can see where youre coming from with that. I can agree on that a bit. I do like how ccp hosts alot of SP based events. While that is very good for veterans, it also gives newcomers a chance to shorten that timespan. More importantly, those are the chances to really get your core skills where they need to be before even going proto. Alot of the vets use youtube and allied chat channels to assist new players also. Believe it or not, the Dust514 community is thriving, and is always willing to help players who ask questions and seek to be more involved with the game. Any typical corporate website may host threads containing organized tutorial and gameplay videos to help newer players see whats in store ahead for the various paths they choose. Nod Keras, Cyriously Moody, Gamerfreak, shoot even Lowratehitman, to name a few, come to mind when I say this. CEOPYREX should also be included in that part of the community. I highly recommend new players to check them out if they really want to get hyped about Dust.
X7 lion SWAMPERIUM 184	Posted - 2014.04.30 21:53:00 - [83] - Quote Beeeees wrote: X7 lion wrote: but tbh the people who do give no *****, we can play how ever we want to. You personally are killing this game-¦s playerbase. you have no clue.... Immortality will not protect you from me. I am death incarnate, you will die.


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