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SeargentSAVAGE SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives 0	Posted - 2014.04.25 05:53:00 - [1] - Quote DNS... The name of the alliance makes smaller corps cringe, forces the blueberries into their frontlines or even retirement. Me myself I love the challenge to go against them but after a while the proto stomping just gets old. Proto flooding into public like they were blueprints and if that was bad enough the lag room still had to happen. I've played many PC's against these guys, some were very respectable battles others I'd be more likely to shoot my squad members during the lag from constant spamming of equipment. This post is going to start some confrontation of course. Insult me all you want just to hide the fact that you know this post is completely true. The big question going around is how will PC be fixed? One solution is to create more districts, I see all of Eve's map with so much to take over it would be impossible for 1 alliance to hold it all. With this said, unfortunately there is to many districts under this alliance to start creating them because they will be easily taken seeing that there is many more in the alliance that doesn't even have a district. Two, simply stop attacking their districts, every time you attack their districts its a nice fat pay check for all of them and like these guys need anymore isk. Why not attack them you ask? Because they can waist all that isk by constantly proto stomping in pub's. Though this will take much time it would work but nobody wants to wait that out, but it is a thought to keep in mind. Three, one big rebellion, unfortunately people are not trying to get that serious. This is game that is meant to be fun, but for some its more than that. In all reality DNS you guys are ruining the game you love to play. Every real friend I've tried to get to play the game run into you guys right out of the academy and made them quit before even starting. You're hurting the population growth within the Dust community and a bigger population is what the game needs at the moment. Me myself have done what you guys have and completely redlined a team but found no enjoyment in doing so, seeing that they are the most boring matches ever. So CCP how are you going to fix PC? Or are you going to just hope the players deal with the problem?
Kaminoikari DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 128	Posted - 2014.04.25 05:54:00 - [2] - Quote My thoughts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU7gP9B7jh8 At least... I wish I could say that. :( Poor ADS pilot is poor. Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_; >Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2816	Posted - 2014.04.25 05:57:00 - [3] - Quote Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? weRideNDie2getha since 2010
SeargentSAVAGE SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives 0	Posted - 2014.04.25 06:03:00 - [4] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now
Stiddlefaxq Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 57	Posted - 2014.04.25 06:12:00 - [5] - Quote SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now You realize that everyone involved was already "Proto stomping" BEFORE we joined DNS, right? If anything, DNS's PC ownership has/will lead to LESS proto stomping. Hear me out. Before the donut, nearly everyone that is currently in DNS was able to run proto consistently in pubs and still make money from PC. After? Same deal, except instead of having 10 other groups involved, all the money that they were making(And using to buy proto suits in pubs) is now going to the same people that were already able to afford proto. We can't spend any more than we already do in pubs. That money goes straight to the bank. PC already resulted in fairly concentrated wealth before DNS. The current situation just concentrates that wealth further. The fewer people that have that wealth, the fewer people that can run proto in pubs constantly. Blue donut = less proto stomping in the short term. Long term, we are going to be able to "protostomp" until CCP fixes the game (until the end of time)... But rest assured that the current situation benefits the non-pc player. Less players with wealth = Less players proto stomping. Also, with every clone pack attack we defend against, we eliminate almost 40 million ISK from the former protostomper's wallets. Doing our part, one district at a time.
anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 37	Posted - 2014.04.25 06:14:00 - [6] - Quote Game is ruined, CCP will be doing some kind of drastic move, or this will be WoD fated In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2434	Posted - 2014.04.25 06:15:00 - [7] - Quote Stiddlefaxq wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now You realize that everyone involved was already "Proto stomping" BEFORE we joined DNS, right? If anything, DNS's PC ownership has/will lead to LESS proto stomping. Hear me out. Before the donut, nearly everyone that is currently in DNS was able to run proto consistently in pubs and still make money from PC. After? Same deal, except instead of having 10 other groups involved, all the money that they were making(And using to buy proto suits in pubs) is now going to the same people that were already able to afford proto. We can't spend any more than we already do in pubs. That money goes straight to the bank. PC already resulted in fairly concentrated wealth before DNS. The current situation just concentrates that wealth further. The fewer people that have that wealth, the fewer people that can run proto in pubs constantly. Blue donut = less proto stomping in the short term. Long term, we are going to be able to "protostomp" until CCP fixes the game (until the end of time)... But rest assured that the current situation benefits the non-pc player. Less players with wealth = Less players proto stomping. Also, with every clone pack attack we defend against, we eliminate almost 40 million ISK from the former protostomper's wallets. Doing our part, one district at a time. You also feed our wallets when we kill you with STD gear. Thanks for that. HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes. CCP Rogue is french, CCP Sabrewing is a beefcake.
SeargentSAVAGE SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives 0	Posted - 2014.04.25 06:19:00 - [8] - Quote Stiddlefaxq wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now You realize that everyone involved was already "Proto stomping" BEFORE we joined DNS, right? If anything, DNS's PC ownership has/will lead to LESS proto stomping. Hear me out. Before the donut, nearly everyone that is currently in DNS was able to run proto consistently in pubs and still make money from PC. After? Same deal, except instead of having 10 other groups involved, all the money that they were making(And using to buy proto suits in pubs) is now going to the same people that were already able to afford proto. We can't spend any more than we already do in pubs. That money goes straight to the bank. PC already resulted in fairly concentrated wealth before DNS. The current situation just concentrates that wealth further. The fewer people that have that wealth, the fewer people that can run proto in pubs constantly. Blue donut = less proto stomping in the short term. Long term, we are going to be able to "protostomp" until CCP fixes the game (until the end of time)... But rest assured that the current situation benefits the non-pc player. Less players with wealth = Less players proto stomping. Also, with every clone pack attack we defend against, we eliminate almost 40 million ISK from the former protostomper's wallets. Doing our part, one district at a time. Completely understandable, thanks for enlightening me never really thought of it that way
SeargentSAVAGE SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives 0	Posted - 2014.04.25 06:24:00 - [9] - Quote anaboop wrote: Game is ruined, CCP will be doing some kind of drastic move, or this will be WoD fated Completely agree, its sad how I hear people saying this game is broken all the time more than they say its fun. They better think of something quick and get some type of matchmaking going because if they don't they wont see to many new players.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2817	Posted - 2014.04.25 06:42:00 - [10] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Stiddlefaxq wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now You realize that everyone involved was already "Proto stomping" BEFORE we joined DNS, right? If anything, DNS's PC ownership has/will lead to LESS proto stomping. Hear me out. Before the donut, nearly everyone that is currently in DNS was able to run proto consistently in pubs and still make money from PC. After? Same deal, except instead of having 10 other groups involved, all the money that they were making(And using to buy proto suits in pubs) is now going to the same people that were already able to afford proto. We can't spend any more than we already do in pubs. That money goes straight to the bank. PC already resulted in fairly concentrated wealth before DNS. The current situation just concentrates that wealth further. The fewer people that have that wealth, the fewer people that can run proto in pubs constantly. Blue donut = less proto stomping in the short term. Long term, we are going to be able to "protostomp" until CCP fixes the game (until the end of time)... But rest assured that the current situation benefits the non-pc player. Less players with wealth = Less players proto stomping. Also, with every clone pack attack we defend against, we eliminate almost 40 million ISK from the former protostomper's wallets. Doing our part, one district at a time. You also feed our wallets when we kill you with STD gear. Thanks for that. Have to win those pub matches to reap those rewards. Killing a guy in proto while you're in STD gear isn't going to net you any special rewards. weRideNDie2getha since 2010

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2817	Posted - 2014.04.25 06:44:00 - [11] - Quote SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now About the protostomping....blame CCPs for making heavies so crazy to kill now. Since damage has been nerfed, it's almost an imperative to use a proto weapon in pubs.You have squads of heavies running together with a logi repping him at the same time. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 496	Posted - 2014.04.25 06:47:00 - [12] - Quote Problem is not DNS it self they just do what the game mechanics permits them to do. Most of the corps in DNS aren't that good as AE,FA,NYAN is ( if I missed some one I am sorry nothing personal) There is quite a few that many of us outside DNS are on par with. However who ever you atack ( or defend against ) it always ends upp facing the same 30+ players. Other problem is that there is no minor league ( spelling ). There is scrub league ( pub/FW ) and mayor league ( PC ) There is no play field for mid lvl corps to improve them selfs or have orginased corp batles against one and other. That's it Regards War never changes
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2817	Posted - 2014.04.25 06:51:00 - [13] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Problem is not DNS it self they just do what the game mechanics permits them to do. Most of the corps in DNS aren't that good as AE,FA,NYAN is ( if I missed some one I am sorry nothing personal) There is quite a few that many of us outside DNS are on par with. However who ever you atack ( or defend against ) it always ends upp facing the same 30+ players. Other problem is that there is no minor league ( spelling ). There is scrub league ( pub/FW ) and mayor league ( PC ) There is no play field for mid lvl corps to improve them selfs or have orginased corp batles against one and other. That's it Regards True... there is no minor league. Not sure how one could be implemented but if there was a minor league....there would be more activity in pc. Maybe an area where the rewards aren't as much as where the majors play? idk weRideNDie2getha since 2010
SeargentSAVAGE SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives 0	Posted - 2014.04.25 06:57:00 - [14] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now About the protostomping....blame CCPs for making heavies so crazy to kill now. Since damage has been nerfed, it's almost an imperative to use a proto weapon in pubs.You have squads of heavies running together with a logi repping him at the same time. Man I'm sorry but you couldn't come up with a better excuse than that? So that's why all of your alliance proto stomps is because heavies are OP? Its called shoot from a distance, take the logi out first, throw an RE and wait for a heavy to go around the corner then detonate. You basically just said you can't kill without using proto meaning you use your proto as a crutch to lug you threw the battlefield. Kinda scrubbish if you ask me...
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 425	Posted - 2014.04.25 07:01:00 - [15] - Quote fishstixs has never proto stomped anyone in his life he is just talking about people he knows The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 497	Posted - 2014.04.25 07:09:00 - [16] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: Problem is not DNS it self they just do what the game mechanics permits them to do. Most of the corps in DNS aren't that good as AE,FA,NYAN is ( if I missed some one I am sorry nothing personal) There is quite a few that many of us outside DNS are on par with. However who ever you atack ( or defend against ) it always ends upp facing the same 30+ players. Other problem is that there is no minor league ( spelling ). There is scrub league ( pub/FW ) and mayor league ( PC ) There is no play field for mid lvl corps to improve them selfs or have orginased corp batles against one and other. That's it Regards True... there is no minor league. Not sure how one could be implemented but if there was a minor league....there would be more activity in pc. Maybe an area where the rewards aren't as much as where the majors play? idk That is up to CCP to resolve. We the players/customers can only say that something is wrong with the product. The company can then choose to listen or not to listen depending if they believe the problem is worth addressing. And in time that desition ( spelling ) will show if the product survives or fades away. Regards War never changes
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2817	Posted - 2014.04.25 07:26:00 - [17] - Quote SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now About the protostomping....blame CCPs for making heavies so crazy to kill now. Since damage has been nerfed, it's almost an imperative to use a proto weapon in pubs.You have squads of heavies running together with a logi repping him at the same time. Man I'm sorry but you couldn't come up with a better excuse than that? So that's why all of your alliance proto stomps is because heavies are OP? Its called shoot from a distance, take the logi out first, throw an RE and wait for a heavy to go around the corner then detonate. You basically just said you can't kill without using proto meaning you use your proto as a crutch to lug you threw the battlefield. Kinda scrubbish if you ask me... lol I am not talking about the entire alliance. I am talking aobut myself. What's funny is when I come on these forums and read idealistic counters to situations from guys that would probably get smoked by me if I were to use my BPO Raven fit. Heavies aren't limited by distance like how they were in the closed beta. They can tag you at surprising distances..and can kill you if you stood there long enough. Have you been on an objective and just hacked it when a heavy and a logi runs in there? Yeah, you try and kill the logi first and see if that heavy doesn't mow you down. What I am, "basically", saying is that I don't have time to be playing pitty pat with a heavy with an exile. These heavies have resistances and my damage has been nerfed. I'd rather kill him faster with a duvolle than I would with an exile and move on. Because more times than not, there will be two or three behind him. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Stiddlefaxq Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 58	Posted - 2014.04.25 07:34:00 - [18] - Quote SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now About the protostomping....blame CCPs for making heavies so crazy to kill now. Since damage has been nerfed, it's almost an imperative to use a proto weapon in pubs.You have squads of heavies running together with a logi repping him at the same time. Man I'm sorry but you couldn't come up with a better excuse than that? So that's why all of your alliance proto stomps is because heavies are OP? Its called shoot from a distance, take the logi out first, throw an RE and wait for a heavy to go around the corner then detonate. You basically just said you can't kill without using proto meaning you use your proto as a crutch to lug you threw the battlefield. Kinda scrubbish if you ask me... I think he was trying to turn a semi-qq thread into a balance thread, a noble cause. We would all be using proto, heavies being OP as **** or not. But heavies are pretty damn hard to kill at the moment :(.
Stiddlefaxq Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 58	Posted - 2014.04.25 07:37:00 - [19] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now About the protostomping....blame CCPs for making heavies so crazy to kill now. Since damage has been nerfed, it's almost an imperative to use a proto weapon in pubs.You have squads of heavies running together with a logi repping him at the same time. Man I'm sorry but you couldn't come up with a better excuse than that? So that's why all of your alliance proto stomps is because heavies are OP? Its called shoot from a distance, take the logi out first, throw an RE and wait for a heavy to go around the corner then detonate. You basically just said you can't kill without using proto meaning you use your proto as a crutch to lug you threw the battlefield. Kinda scrubbish if you ask me... lol I am not talking about the entire alliance. I am talking aobut myself. What's funny is when I come on these forums and read idealistic counters to situations from guys that would probably get smoked by me if I were to use my BPO Raven fit. Heavies aren't limited by distance like how they were in the closed beta. They can tag you at surprising distances..and can kill you if you stood there long enough. Have you been on an objective and just hacked it when a heavy and a logi runs in there? Yeah, you try and kill the logi first and see if that heavy doesn't mow you down. What I am, "basically", saying is that I don't have time to be playing pitty pat with a heavy with an exile. These heavies have resistances and my damage has been nerfed. I'd rather kill him faster with a duvolle than I would with an exile and move on. Because more times than not, there will be two or three behind him. The resist bonuses the heavies got are too strong. HMG should have been adjusted along the same lines as the rifles(~10%ish) 1500 HP is too much. Being slow isn't big enough of a draw back in a chokepoint/objective based game
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2817	Posted - 2014.04.25 07:42:00 - [20] - Quote Stiddlefaxq wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now About the protostomping....blame CCPs for making heavies so crazy to kill now. Since damage has been nerfed, it's almost an imperative to use a proto weapon in pubs.You have squads of heavies running together with a logi repping him at the same time. Man I'm sorry but you couldn't come up with a better excuse than that? So that's why all of your alliance proto stomps is because heavies are OP? Its called shoot from a distance, take the logi out first, throw an RE and wait for a heavy to go around the corner then detonate. You basically just said you can't kill without using proto meaning you use your proto as a crutch to lug you threw the battlefield. Kinda scrubbish if you ask me... I think he was trying to turn a semi-qq thread into a balance thread, a noble cause. We would all be using proto, heavies being OP as **** or not. But heavies are pretty damn hard to kill at the moment :(. I'm not sure why he thinks that protostomping started with DNS. Guys have been using protos in pubs since the closed beta where there were no districts and the proto suit alone used to be $90K. I used to run adv suits in pubs but with all of these changes......CCP brings you to the point where you feel like you have to use it to fit all of the stuff that you want. I only wear a proto suit in pub just for the housing and fitting. My 'pub-proto' suit isn't even my beast fit, usually, unless I get ticked off. I'll put adv gear and weapons in a proto suit just because it has more slots. weRideNDie2getha since 2010

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2817	Posted - 2014.04.25 07:45:00 - [21] - Quote Stiddlefaxq wrote: The resist bonuses the heavies got are too strong. HMG should have been adjusted along the same lines as the rifles(~10%ish) 1500 HP is too much. Being slow isn't big enough of a draw back in a chokepoint/objective based game Agree with all 3....I'd rather the resistance bonuses came as a module and heavies got the bonuses towards them. 900hp of armor on a gallente heavy with resistance to armor weapons lulz weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Stiddlefaxq Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 58	Posted - 2014.04.25 07:49:00 - [22] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: I only wear a proto suit in pub just for the housing and fitting. My 'pub-proto' suit isn't even my beast fit, usually, unless I get ticked off. I'll put adv gear and weapons in a proto suit just because it has more slots. Ive been running a melee fit. There is literally no way to make it work without running proto, and your opponents having under 980 HP. :/.
Stiddlefaxq Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 58	Posted - 2014.04.25 07:53:00 - [23] - Quote CUSE TOWN333 wrote: fishstixs has never proto stomped anyone in his life he is just talking about people he knows True, it has been months since I took part in dominating your little corp. I was looking through Xero's scoreboard image dumps to see if I could find one of Teamplayers doing especially well against a KEQ team, but it doesn't look like he deemed you worthy enough to memorialize the event. If you launch at least 30 clone packs in the next day or so, I will be sure to show up to one of them for you, so my team can carry me and we can all laugh about it.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 425	Posted - 2014.04.25 08:38:00 - [24] - Quote Stiddlefaxq wrote: CUSE TOWN333 wrote: fishstixs has never proto stomped anyone in his life he is just talking about people he knows True, it has been months since I took part in dominating your little corp. I was looking through Xero's scoreboard image dumps to see if I could find one of Teamplayers doing especially well against a KEQ team, but it doesn't look like he deemed you worthy enough to memorialize the event. If you launch at least 30 clone packs in the next day or so, I will be sure to show up to one of them for you, so my team can carry me and we can all laugh about it. 30 clone packs what are you nutz im still grinding ambush for proto suits for the DDB battle tomorrow night. i don't think you understand how broke we are on the outside of this soggy donut. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 37	Posted - 2014.04.25 09:01:00 - [25] - Quote If ya see squad of dns in ur match just spawn in mcc put controller down or keyboard and afk the match, sooner or later they will have noone to fight gain no wps. Easy fix :p ccp should add afking :) In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
SeargentSAVAGE SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives 0	Posted - 2014.04.25 09:11:00 - [26] - Quote I know proto stomping was happening before dns but you guys are the ones that continuously proto stomp when there's no need to. Meaning if you go do a domination and red line people in the first minute of playing why stay in your proto gear? I'm sick of seeing matches where at the end the winning team has only lost 10 clones the whole match. Its over kill and makes the game lose players because you guys would rather just obliterate the other team then have a challenging match, its a game and you are taking the "fun"out of the game. This is not only dns doing it but a vast majority is DNS. Just try considering how you're slowly running the game, right now dust needs more players but the new players aren't even motivated to play and gain sp because everyone just brutally smash them. I must admit some days i choose to completely proto stomp but I'd rather a challenge not to mention if you have skill you don't need proto gear to win, I've destroyed you proto stompers countless times with my basic fits but now with the over abundance of proto stomping qsyncing squads skill just doesn't do anymore. Like i said at the beginning of this post I'm not hating on anyone, I love going up against dns. Probably the only challenging thing out there but just think how many new players are quitting because of it. I wanna see dust grow not diminish because some people don't wanna lose a match
anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 37	Posted - 2014.04.25 09:15:00 - [27] - Quote Last 4 or 5 matche ive been up against a squad of dns, I dont even bother with it afk in mcc, if dust wants to punish me for that ill just quit lol, but I dont see the point when they hack all 5 objectives I the first 2 minutes and our team never gets one back. In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
SeargentSAVAGE SMARTCREW Canis Eliminatus Operatives 0	Posted - 2014.04.25 09:35:00 - [28] - Quote Don't blame you man just an hour ago I go into a match see dns then looked behind me to no one around as I hack the point. Gets counter hacked in less than i min I go back for the counter hack and epicly fail. Then I take a look on the over head map it said 16 players were on my team but yet I only see 5 people on the battle field and all of them were just hanging out in the red line giving up. The other ten were no where to be found so I retired my controller for the night.
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 143	Posted - 2014.04.25 09:38:00 - [29] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Stiddlefaxq wrote: The resist bonuses the heavies got are too strong. HMG should have been adjusted along the same lines as the rifles(~10%ish) 1500 HP is too much. Being slow isn't big enough of a draw back in a chokepoint/objective based game Agree with all 3....I'd rather the resistance bonuses came as a module and heavies got the bonuses towards them. 900hp of armor on a gallente heavy with resistance to armor weapons lulz Don't forget this BS stunlock thing. A heavy can just spin his hmg up at you and not hit you but you'll be stunlocked and subsequently shredded into tiny bits. Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast. Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1259	Posted - 2014.04.25 09:45:00 - [30] - Quote PC needs canned till CCP can fix it. In pubs its a mixed bag. They either stomp Get stomped Even fight Or leave the game because they'll lose ISK. Had a few good games against some of them today. Even with my squad only running adv or lower gear we beat them a few times. Join the Channel - CPM1 Candidates - Get to know who's running. Delt for CPM1

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2818	Posted - 2014.04.25 10:12:00 - [31] - Quote SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Don't blame you man just an hour ago I go into a match see dns then looked behind me to no one around as I hack the point. Gets counter hacked in less than i min I go back for the counter hack and epicly fail. Then I take a look on the over head map it said 16 players were on my team but yet I only see 5 people on the battle field and all of them were just hanging out in the red line giving up. The other ten were no where to be found so I retired my controller for the night. who's fault is that though? If a team is redlined within the first minute then they didn't come to play. I can understand if there was a fight and then they gave up. But when you're redlined out the gate.....that is all blueberries' fault. That isn't a protostomp thing, a DNS thing, or even a DUST/CCP thing. You will find this in every fps game that you play...blues just don't play. I remember playing BF3 Metro...and right from the start, I saw a sniper climb on top of the pipe. If you've played Metro, you'd remember that the enemy would have to run from their spawn and there is usually a fight at B before they start redlining. This guy was waiting in our spawn from the start! weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 484	Posted - 2014.04.25 10:38:00 - [32] - Quote SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now Didn't you know? Apparently DNS are cartelling all of Molden Heath and thus abuse the gained ability to protostomp forever in pubs without losing any isk at all because of the passive isk making, for "the good of the community". Apparently, in their wierd logic, all other players should be thanking them for their "efforts"...
anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 37	Posted - 2014.04.25 11:18:00 - [33] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Don't blame you man just an hour ago I go into a match see dns then looked behind me to no one around as I hack the point. Gets counter hacked in less than i min I go back for the counter hack and epicly fail. Then I take a look on the over head map it said 16 players were on my team but yet I only see 5 people on the battle field and all of them were just hanging out in the red line giving up. The other ten were no where to be found so I retired my controller for the night. who's fault is that though? If a team is redlined within the first minute then they didn't come to play. I can understand if there was a fight and then they gave up. But when you're redlined out the gate.....that is all blueberries' fault. That isn't a protostomp thing, a DNS thing, or even a DUST/CCP thing. You will find this in every fps game that you play...blues just don't play. I remember playing BF3 Metro...and right from the start, I saw a sniper climb on top of the pipe. If you've played Metro, you'd remember that the enemy would have to run from their spawn and there is usually a fight at B before they start redlining. This guy was waiting in our spawn from the start! Yes and no, why bother being stomped when u can afk in mcc. I look at whos playing, if its a bunch of proto fags I afk. Wait for next game, I would rather have fun then play against people that are like gays going for a boner up the ass. In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3119	Posted - 2014.04.25 11:21:00 - [34] - Quote Stiddlefaxq wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now You realize that everyone involved was already "Proto stomping" BEFORE we joined DNS, right? If anything, DNS's PC ownership has/will lead to LESS proto stomping. Hear me out. Before the donut, nearly everyone that is currently in DNS was able to run proto consistently in pubs and still make money from PC. After? Same deal, except instead of having 10 other groups involved, all the money that they were making(And using to buy proto suits in pubs) is now going to the same people that were already able to afford proto. We can't spend any more than we already do in pubs. That money goes straight to the bank. PC already resulted in fairly concentrated wealth before DNS. The current situation just concentrates that wealth further. The fewer people that have that wealth, the fewer people that can run proto in pubs constantly. Blue donut = less proto stomping in the short term. Long term, we are going to be able to "protostomp" until CCP fixes the game (until the end of time)... But rest assured that the current situation benefits the non-pc player. Less players with wealth = Less players proto stomping. Also, with every clone pack attack we defend against, we eliminate almost 40 million ISK from the former protostomper's wallets. Doing our part, one district at a time. Post on your main lol. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
CUSE TOWN333 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 425	Posted - 2014.04.25 13:40:00 - [35] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Don't blame you man just an hour ago I go into a match see dns then looked behind me to no one around as I hack the point. Gets counter hacked in less than i min I go back for the counter hack and epicly fail. Then I take a look on the over head map it said 16 players were on my team but yet I only see 5 people on the battle field and all of them were just hanging out in the red line giving up. The other ten were no where to be found so I retired my controller for the night. who's fault is that though? If a team is redlined within the first minute then they didn't come to play. I can understand if there was a fight and then they gave up. But when you're redlined out the gate.....that is all blueberries' fault. That isn't a protostomp thing, a DNS thing, or even a DUST/CCP thing. You will find this in every fps game that you play...blues just don't play. I remember playing BF3 Metro...and right from the start, I saw a sniper climb on top of the pipe. If you've played Metro, you'd remember that the enemy would have to run from their spawn and there is usually a fight at B before they start redlining. This guy was waiting in our spawn from the start! lol the russian side all ways had it easy being closer to B its was all ways funny seeing bluedots stop at the homepoint when the real MOFOs are at a race to B to lock it down. The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1920	Posted - 2014.04.25 13:48:00 - [36] - Quote You do realize that opening more Regions to PC will only exacerbate the problem right? Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!! Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
Happy Jack SD Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 121	Posted - 2014.04.25 13:55:00 - [37] - Quote SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Don't blame you man just an hour ago I go into a match see dns then looked behind me to no one around as I hack the point. Gets counter hacked in less than i min I go back for the counter hack and epicly fail. Then I take a look on the over head map it said 16 players were on my team but yet I only see 5 people on the battle field and all of them were just hanging out in the red line giving up. The other ten were no where to be found so I retired my controller for the night. anaboop wrote: Yes and no, why bother being stomped when u can afk in mcc. I look at whos playing, if its a bunch of proto fags I afk. Wait for next game, I would rather have fun then play against people that are like gays going for a boner up the ass. So you want to complain about the NPE, but when faced with tryhards you afk and put your bluberries down a man? Sure you're denying the enemy proto from some kills on YOUR toon, but the 5 people on your team trying to play are most definatly screwed. You'd be better off quiting and finding another match, if you care about the NPE on the off chance that someone joins your team who's willing to try to make a difference, but who am I kidding, you don't care. "Have faith lest your unbelief consume you." -The Bleeding Chalice
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2226	Posted - 2014.04.25 14:16:00 - [38] - Quote Fun we did our first 2 pc's, for HVLP. And it's been a blast helping. I forgot how much fun it was to build a corp with someone.. So I thank the people that still attack it's good training and fun for my corp. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Autoaim Bot514 The Hetairoi 79	Posted - 2014.04.25 14:24:00 - [39] - Quote My 1 man corp isnt able to take half of Molden Heath. SISIPEE plx to fix.
Rifter7 Ancient Exiles. 405	Posted - 2014.04.25 14:25:00 - [40] - Quote wall of text hits you for 9001 dmg. Primus sucks.

Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 2235	Posted - 2014.04.25 14:26:00 - [41] - Quote anaboop wrote: If ya see squad of dns in ur match just spawn in mcc put controller down or keyboard and afk the match, sooner or later they will have noone to fight gain no wps. Easy fix :p ccp should add afking :) Still get sp and isk which also makes it's so I can afk and watch anime.. Yes do this guys Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
anaboop NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 37	Posted - 2014.04.26 05:59:00 - [42] - Quote Happy Jack SD wrote: SeargentSAVAGE wrote: Don't blame you man just an hour ago I go into a match see dns then looked behind me to no one around as I hack the point. Gets counter hacked in less than i min I go back for the counter hack and epicly fail. Then I take a look on the over head map it said 16 players were on my team but yet I only see 5 people on the battle field and all of them were just hanging out in the red line giving up. The other ten were no where to be found so I retired my controller for the night. anaboop wrote: Yes and no, why bother being stomped when u can afk in mcc. I look at whos playing, if its a bunch of proto fags I afk. Wait for next game, I would rather have fun then play against people that are like gays going for a boner up the ass. So you want to complain about the NPE, but when faced with tryhards you afk and put your bluberries down a man? Sure you're denying the enemy proto from some kills on YOUR toon, but the 5 people on your team trying to play are most definatly screwed. You'd be better off quiting and finding another match, if you care about the NPE on the off chance that someone joins your team who's willing to try to make a difference, but who am I kidding, you don't care. They screwed either way. Since you dont care about NPE why the hell should I. In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7223	Posted - 2014.04.26 06:02:00 - [43] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: True... there is no minor league. Not sure how one could be implemented but if there was a minor league....there would be more activity in pc. Maybe an area where the rewards aren't as much as where the majors play? idk Corp Battles. HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND


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