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Ydubbs81 RND
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Posted - 2014.04.25 05:57:00 -
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Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping?
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Ydubbs81 RND
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Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 06:42:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Stiddlefaxq wrote:SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now You realize that everyone involved was already "Proto stomping" BEFORE we joined DNS, right? If anything, DNS's PC ownership has/will lead to LESS proto stomping. Hear me out. Before the donut, nearly everyone that is currently in DNS was able to run proto consistently in pubs and still make money from PC. After? Same deal, except instead of having 10 other groups involved, all the money that they were making(And using to buy proto suits in pubs) is now going to the same people that were already able to afford proto. We can't spend any more than we already do in pubs. That money goes straight to the bank. PC already resulted in fairly concentrated wealth before DNS. The current situation just concentrates that wealth further. The fewer people that have that wealth, the fewer people that can run proto in pubs constantly. Blue donut = less proto stomping in the short term. Long term, we are going to be able to "protostomp" until CCP fixes the game (until the end of time)... But rest assured that the current situation benefits the non-pc player. Less players with wealth = Less players proto stomping. Also, with every clone pack attack we defend against, we eliminate almost 40 million ISK from the former protostomper's wallets. Doing our part, one district at a time. You also feed our wallets when we kill you with STD gear. Thanks for that.
Have to win those pub matches to reap those rewards. Killing a guy in proto while you're in STD gear isn't going to net you any special rewards.
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 06:44:00 -
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SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now
About the protostomping....blame CCPs for making heavies so crazy to kill now. Since damage has been nerfed, it's almost an imperative to use a proto weapon in pubs.You have squads of heavies running together with a logi repping him at the same time.
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 06:51:00 -
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Piraten Hovnoret wrote:Problem is not DNS it self they just do what the game mechanics permits them to do.
Most of the corps in DNS aren't that good as AE,FA,NYAN is ( if I missed some one I am sorry nothing personal)
There is quite a few that many of us outside DNS are on par with. However who ever you atack ( or defend against ) it always ends upp facing the same 30+ players.
Other problem is that there is no minor league ( spelling ). There is scrub league ( pub/FW ) and mayor league ( PC )
There is no play field for mid lvl corps to improve them selfs or have orginased corp batles against one and other.
That's it
Regards
True... there is no minor league. Not sure how one could be implemented but if there was a minor league....there would be more activity in pc.
Maybe an area where the rewards aren't as much as where the majors play? idk
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 07:26:00 -
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SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now About the protostomping....blame CCPs for making heavies so crazy to kill now. Since damage has been nerfed, it's almost an imperative to use a proto weapon in pubs.You have squads of heavies running together with a logi repping him at the same time. Man I'm sorry but you couldn't come up with a better excuse than that? So that's why all of your alliance proto stomps is because heavies are OP? Its called shoot from a distance, take the logi out first, throw an RE and wait for a heavy to go around the corner then detonate. You basically just said you can't kill without using proto meaning you use your proto as a crutch to lug you threw the battlefield. Kinda scrubbish if you ask me...
lol I am not talking about the entire alliance. I am talking aobut myself.
What's funny is when I come on these forums and read idealistic counters to situations from guys that would probably get smoked by me if I were to use my BPO Raven fit.
Heavies aren't limited by distance like how they were in the closed beta. They can tag you at surprising distances..and can kill you if you stood there long enough. Have you been on an objective and just hacked it when a heavy and a logi runs in there? Yeah, you try and kill the logi first and see if that heavy doesn't mow you down.
What I am, "basically", saying is that I don't have time to be playing pitty pat with a heavy with an exile. These heavies have resistances and my damage has been nerfed. I'd rather kill him faster with a duvolle than I would with an exile and move on. Because more times than not, there will be two or three behind him.
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 07:42:00 -
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Stiddlefaxq wrote:SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Is this a post about DNS and pc or about proto stomping? Mostly about PC but seeing that you guys hold pretty much 100% of molden heath it is slightly directed to you guys too. And the proto stomping part is pretty much saying how since you have obtained all of the districts the proto stomping has flooded into pub matches since you really have no other place to use it now About the protostomping....blame CCPs for making heavies so crazy to kill now. Since damage has been nerfed, it's almost an imperative to use a proto weapon in pubs.You have squads of heavies running together with a logi repping him at the same time. Man I'm sorry but you couldn't come up with a better excuse than that? So that's why all of your alliance proto stomps is because heavies are OP? Its called shoot from a distance, take the logi out first, throw an RE and wait for a heavy to go around the corner then detonate. You basically just said you can't kill without using proto meaning you use your proto as a crutch to lug you threw the battlefield. Kinda scrubbish if you ask me... I think he was trying to turn a semi-qq thread into a balance thread, a noble cause. We would all be using proto, heavies being OP as **** or not. But heavies are pretty damn hard to kill at the moment :(.
I'm not sure why he thinks that protostomping started with DNS. Guys have been using protos in pubs since the closed beta where there were no districts and the proto suit alone used to be $90K.
I used to run adv suits in pubs but with all of these changes......CCP brings you to the point where you feel like you have to use it to fit all of the stuff that you want.
I only wear a proto suit in pub just for the housing and fitting. My 'pub-proto' suit isn't even my beast fit, usually, unless I get ticked off. I'll put adv gear and weapons in a proto suit just because it has more slots.
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
2817
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Posted - 2014.04.25 07:45:00 -
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Stiddlefaxq wrote:
The resist bonuses the heavies got are too strong.
HMG should have been adjusted along the same lines as the rifles(~10%ish)
1500 HP is too much. Being slow isn't big enough of a draw back in a chokepoint/objective based game
Agree with all 3....I'd rather the resistance bonuses came as a module and heavies got the bonuses towards them. 900hp of armor on a gallente heavy with resistance to armor weapons lulz
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.25 10:12:00 -
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SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Don't blame you man just an hour ago I go into a match see dns then looked behind me to no one around as I hack the point. Gets counter hacked in less than i min I go back for the counter hack and epicly fail. Then I take a look on the over head map it said 16 players were on my team but yet I only see 5 people on the battle field and all of them were just hanging out in the red line giving up. The other ten were no where to be found so I retired my controller for the night.
who's fault is that though? If a team is redlined within the first minute then they didn't come to play. I can understand if there was a fight and then they gave up. But when you're redlined out the gate.....that is all blueberries' fault. That isn't a protostomp thing, a DNS thing, or even a DUST/CCP thing. You will find this in every fps game that you play...blues just don't play.
I remember playing BF3 Metro...and right from the start, I saw a sniper climb on top of the pipe. If you've played Metro, you'd remember that the enemy would have to run from their spawn and there is usually a fight at B before they start redlining. This guy was waiting in our spawn from the start!
weRideNDie2getha since 2010
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