DUST Search - Dropships and ADS are insanely fun to fly.

Dunk Mujunk wrote:

Awry Barux wrote:

Cinnamon267 wrote:

I do try and spend most of a match just screwing around and seeing what I can do. I slightly prefer the Gallente stuff. Don't know why just seems easier to control. Caldari stuff seems to be way more squirmy.

They are fun. I just wish some people would leave me be. Let a man fly in peace people! Especially those annoying people who try and ram you.

I know the Incubus is more stable, but don't do it, man. Python for life! The squirmyness is actually just the Python's light weight and higher agility. The Incubus goes faster in a straight line, but the Python will fly rings around it.

The Python is hands down the best dogfighter, mainly due to its superior ability to climb. I can out fly many Python pilots in my 4881 armor Inky when we are decreasing altittude, but I can never get my gun high enough in a climb to connect with a Python if the guy is paying attention. I would imagine the Python is a better tank killer as well, especially with the Caldari ADS bonuses.

All that said, the Incubus is THE choice for anti infantry. As Awry mentioned it is nice and stable, not only when manuvering, but even when getting hit by things like forges there is less movement transfered due to its weight, its ability to stack armor obviously makes it more survivable, which lets you stay lower and remain on site longer. I personally don't run reps, so I have no cool downs to wait for or mods to activate. Obviously serious damage requires a retreat to the supply depot, but 4800+ armor lasts a suprisingly long time as long as i'm not flying stupid.

I think both ships have their own positives and styles, and both can be massivly effective in the proper situations. I think it comes down to what kind of flying you want to do. I'll get into the Python one day for sure, but I love flying my iron brick as low and fast as I can, then parking over a spot and raining devistation while I soak up damage.

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Cinnamon267 165	Posted - 2014.04.24 09:48:00 - [1] - Quote Why didn't anyone tell me they are so fun to fly?! Up until a militia tank makes mince meat out of you. Especially demoralising when you shoot your rockets at a milita tank and it does very little whilst their weapons DO INSANE DAMAGE! :( :( I r sad. The amount of SP you need invested to make these things super good is crazy compared to how borked tanks are. But, I still has fun flying :) Just wish the maps were better designed for a dropship.
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2002	Posted - 2014.04.24 09:51:00 - [2] - Quote Dropships are fun to fly! ... too late? Everything Dropship youtube channel my Community Spotlight
Cinnamon267 165	Posted - 2014.04.24 09:56:00 - [3] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Dropships are fun to fly! ... too late? SO FUN TO FLY! Not too late.
Denchlad 7 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 172	Posted - 2014.04.24 10:05:00 - [4] - Quote The most fun thing to do in Dropships I feel is stunt flying. Gives a feeling or overpowering manliness of the fear of plummeting to the ground, knowing that if I crash I just blew a very expensive hole through my wallet. Ones to try: -Backflipping off the edge of one of the towers -Flying through the Table-Top -Flying through the Pyramid (during a Domination when the point is inside for extra challenge) -Triple Backlfip (non ADS) -Helix Dive (Back/Frontflip with a simultaneous sideflip diagonally) -1st Person Speedrun (Flying as low and as fast as possible in 1st person) I sometimes just spend matches doing stupid stuff in dropships cause hey, if you dont crash or get breathed on youre fine. Was attempting to proto every weapon a bad idea? Yes. 12 so far If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world
Judge Rhadamanthus Amarr Templar One 2002	Posted - 2014.04.24 10:29:00 - [5] - Quote I second Denchlad's post. Many of the things you learn just stunt flying actually turn out to be useful in combat for dropping swarms on your tail or confusing those targeting you. Try Afterbuner moves too. It can be used as an air brake or like a cars handbrake to do tight turns. Fly right at buildings and use the AB to do insanely late pull ups to avoid contact, or the same with dive. Charge at the ground and use the AB to stop at the last moment. Or use AB turns, (flick it on as you start the turn, then off again straight away) to do turns as close and tight to tall towers as you can. You will fail. We all still do. But you will be a much better pilot for it. Piloting is one of those skills where to get up with the best you need to learn were that absolute limit is. THe way you find the limit is when you cross it. This means death, but its a worth while investment. Everything Dropship youtube channel my Community Spotlight

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 1131	Posted - 2014.04.24 10:37:00 - [6] - Quote CRU's should give points! Because it's fun to backflip with ppl spawning inside your DS. /c DUSTSearch DUSTBoard DUST Server Status

LT apparition Molon Labe. 83	Posted - 2014.04.24 10:40:00 - [7] - Quote ChribbaX wrote: CRU's should give points! Because it's fun to backflip with ppl spawning inside your DS. /c Doing Flips and Tricks People Be Like AW Hell Were Going Down and Bail Out alot of the times Hehe then they die from being launched into the redzone, or.. get mowed down at soon as they hit the ground... Then its back to Square 1 in the Dropship for more Fun Ich sehe alles...
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1118	Posted - 2014.04.24 10:55:00 - [8] - Quote They are very fun to fly! Quite addicting too! Especially when you start working with a crew on board. I concur with what judge and denchlad are saying, stunt flying is a great way to learn the limitations of the dropship and is pretty darn fun too! Especially if you listen to some good songs whilst you do it, I would listen to the silent cartographer song from halo CE and stunt fly the first game I got on in chromo and early uprising to set the mood I still play a few games to keep my skills in check, ground shark, where I follow a road as fast and as low as I can. ground vehicle, where I fly low enough to the ground in the red to be classified as a ground vehicle. Mountain hugger, getting as close to the mountains as possible going as fast as possible. Dive bomber, dive down at maximum speed and level off with thrust or AB just before you hit the ground land for a second and shoot off. Stunt pilot, line harvest is great for this, fly between all the buildings I can, under table top through the boxes and A etc. Building dodger, do quick speedy runs through any sort of city complex get real close to buildings and practice dodging simulated swarm hits and the like. There is more but I'll stop anyway these are all really fun and everyone of them simulates a maneuver that can be very useful in combat, practice is really important for a dropship pilot, otherwise I wouldn't crash at all!
Cinnamon267 167	Posted - 2014.04.24 11:25:00 - [9] - Quote I do try and spend most of a match just screwing around and seeing what I can do. I slightly prefer the Gallente stuff. Don't know why just seems easier to control. Caldari stuff seems to be way more squirmy. They are fun. I just wish some people would leave me be. Let a man fly in peace people! Especially those annoying people who try and ram you.
Denchlad 7 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 174	Posted - 2014.04.24 13:33:00 - [10] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: I second Denchlad's post. Many of the things you learn just stunt flying actually turn out to be useful in combat for dropping swarms on your tail or confusing those targeting you. Try Afterbuner moves too. It can be used as an air brake or like a cars handbrake to do tight turns. Fly right at buildings and use the AB to do insanely late pull ups to avoid contact, or the same with dive. Charge at the ground and use the AB to stop at the last moment. Or use AB turns, (flick it on as you start the turn, then off again straight away) to do turns as close and tight to tall towers as you can. You will fail. We all still do. But you will be a much better pilot for it. Piloting is one of those skills where to get up with the best you need to learn were that absolute limit is. THe way you find the limit is when you cross it. This means death, but its a worth while investment. Shouldve added the afterburner part, but agreed, I taught myself to fly by stunt flying, and it has saved me a lot of isk many times just by my abiliy to quickly evade and outwit and enemy. EDIT: Want a real challenge? Fly through the research facility at speed, sideways. Now thats a real isk burner if you cant decelerate quick enough Was attempting to proto every weapon a bad idea? Yes. 12 so far If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world

buzzzzzzz killllllllll TRA1LBLAZERS 440	Posted - 2014.04.24 13:36:00 - [11] - Quote if only there were cheaper ads's Dedicated heavy through the hard times, still supporter of A FULL 1.8 respec and MOAR HEAVY WEAPONS!
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 372	Posted - 2014.04.24 13:44:00 - [12] - Quote Cinnamon267 wrote: Why didn't anyone tell me they are so fun to fly?! Up until a militia tank makes mince meat out of you. Especially demoralising when you shoot your rockets at a milita tank and it does very little whilst their weapons DO INSANE DAMAGE! :( :( I r sad. The amount of SP you need invested to make these things super good is crazy compared to how borked tanks are. But, I still has fun flying :) Just wish the maps were better designed for a dropship. You mean nearly impossible with wonky controls? Then, yes, yes it is. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1440	Posted - 2014.04.24 13:57:00 - [13] - Quote If you're looking for a challenge, try using a small rail or blaster for anti-infantry. Me in my ADS: 1,2
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2123	Posted - 2014.04.24 14:17:00 - [14] - Quote Cinnamon267 wrote: I do try and spend most of a match just screwing around and seeing what I can do. I slightly prefer the Gallente stuff. Don't know why just seems easier to control. Caldari stuff seems to be way more squirmy. They are fun. I just wish some people would leave me be. Let a man fly in peace people! Especially those annoying people who try and ram you. I know the Incubus is more stable, but don't do it, man. Python for life! The squirmyness is actually just the Python's light weight and higher agility. The Incubus goes faster in a straight line, but the Python will fly rings around it. Nerdier than thou
Operative 2511 Dajli True Companion Planetary Requisitions 47	Posted - 2014.04.24 14:34:00 - [15] - Quote Goes even better with scotch! Lol, the ban hammer got me!
Will Driver Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 34	Posted - 2014.04.24 20:24:00 - [16] - Quote Can't get the hang of flying, but in the meantime I sure like shooting you guys down. GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥ GÇò Albert Einstein
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 13083	Posted - 2014.04.24 20:36:00 - [17] - Quote It's the only reason I still sign in from time to time, though my wallet probably doesn't agree My Music Videos & Fan Fiction Mostly Solo ADS Pilot
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 773	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:08:00 - [18] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Cinnamon267 wrote: I do try and spend most of a match just screwing around and seeing what I can do. I slightly prefer the Gallente stuff. Don't know why just seems easier to control. Caldari stuff seems to be way more squirmy. They are fun. I just wish some people would leave me be. Let a man fly in peace people! Especially those annoying people who try and ram you. I know the Incubus is more stable, but don't do it, man. Python for life! The squirmyness is actually just the Python's light weight and higher agility. The Incubus goes faster in a straight line, but the Python will fly rings around it. The Python is hands down the best dogfighter, mainly due to its superior ability to climb. I can out fly many Python pilots in my 4881 armor Inky when we are decreasing altittude, but I can never get my gun high enough in a climb to connect with a Python if the guy is paying attention. I would imagine the Python is a better tank killer as well, especially with the Caldari ADS bonuses. All that said, the Incubus is THE choice for anti infantry. As Awry mentioned it is nice and stable, not only when manuvering, but even when getting hit by things like forges there is less movement transfered due to its weight, its ability to stack armor obviously makes it more survivable, which lets you stay lower and remain on site longer. I personally don't run reps, so I have no cool downs to wait for or mods to activate. Obviously serious damage requires a retreat to the supply depot, but 4800+ armor lasts a suprisingly long time as long as i'm not flying stupid. I think both ships have their own positives and styles, and both can be massivly effective in the proper situations. I think it comes down to what kind of flying you want to do. I'll get into the Python one day for sure, but I love flying my iron brick as low and fast as I can, then parking over a spot and raining devistation while I soak up damage. Nobody fcks monkeys AND people you idiot.You either fck monkeys, or you fck people.Theres no in between. Dave Chappelle
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 431	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:14:00 - [19] - Quote Denchlad 7 wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: I second Denchlad's post. Many of the things you learn just stunt flying actually turn out to be useful in combat for dropping swarms on your tail or confusing those targeting you. Try Afterbuner moves too. It can be used as an air brake or like a cars handbrake to do tight turns. Fly right at buildings and use the AB to do insanely late pull ups to avoid contact, or the same with dive. Charge at the ground and use the AB to stop at the last moment. Or use AB turns, (flick it on as you start the turn, then off again straight away) to do turns as close and tight to tall towers as you can. You will fail. We all still do. But you will be a much better pilot for it. Piloting is one of those skills where to get up with the best you need to learn were that absolute limit is. THe way you find the limit is when you cross it. This means death, but its a worth while investment. Shouldve added the afterburner part, but agreed, I taught myself to fly by stunt flying, and it has saved me a lot of isk many times just by my abiliy to quickly evade and outwit and enemy. EDIT: Want a real challenge? Fly through the research facility at speed, sideways. Now thats a real isk burner if you cant decelerate quick enough +1 Learning how to do a barrel roll back when the flight ceiling barely reached the bottom edge of the MCCs was the moment I figured out how to do everything in a regular Dropship. I don't always fly fancy, but I will when I need or want to. ADS is an entirely different beast though, I struggle to get kills without hovering, and aiming at all is a total *****. To top it off, they're ridiculously expensive, so "crash and learn" is no longer friendly towards my wallet. Ugh. Closed Beta Vet since May 2012 The Laser Rifle- Reach Out And Burn Slaves Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
Denchlad 7 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 181	Posted - 2014.04.24 21:50:00 - [20] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Denchlad 7 wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: I second Denchlad's post. Many of the things you learn just stunt flying actually turn out to be useful in combat for dropping swarms on your tail or confusing those targeting you. Try Afterbuner moves too. It can be used as an air brake or like a cars handbrake to do tight turns. Fly right at buildings and use the AB to do insanely late pull ups to avoid contact, or the same with dive. Charge at the ground and use the AB to stop at the last moment. Or use AB turns, (flick it on as you start the turn, then off again straight away) to do turns as close and tight to tall towers as you can. You will fail. We all still do. But you will be a much better pilot for it. Piloting is one of those skills where to get up with the best you need to learn were that absolute limit is. THe way you find the limit is when you cross it. This means death, but its a worth while investment. Shouldve added the afterburner part, but agreed, I taught myself to fly by stunt flying, and it has saved me a lot of isk many times just by my abiliy to quickly evade and outwit and enemy. EDIT: Want a real challenge? Fly through the research facility at speed, sideways. Now thats a real isk burner if you cant decelerate quick enough +1 Learning how to do a barrel roll back when the flight ceiling barely reached the bottom edge of the MCCs was the moment I figured out how to do everything in a regular Dropship. I don't always fly fancy, but I will when I need or want to. ADS is an entirely different beast though, I struggle to get kills without hovering, and aiming at all is a total *****. To top it off, they're ridiculously expensive, so "crash and learn" is no longer friendly towards my wallet. Ugh. Ive spent in the region of 80,000,000 isk on ADS', and im sure others have spent far more. An expensive hobby, it is. Was attempting to proto every weapon a bad idea? Yes. 12 so far If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world

Cinnamon267 173	Posted - 2014.04.25 08:28:00 - [21] - Quote I'm also enjoying how often I die for no logical reason. I was flying over the enemy MCC before and for reasons I don't know I just went from full health to zero. I didn't hit it. I was really far above it. No RDV came in and one shotted me. Confused as to what happened :\
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9740	Posted - 2014.04.25 09:46:00 - [22] - Quote Cinnamon267 wrote: Why didn't anyone tell me they are so fun to fly?! Up until a militia tank makes mince meat out of you. Especially demoralising when you shoot your rockets at a milita tank and it does very little whilst their weapons DO INSANE DAMAGE! :( :( I r sad. The amount of SP you need invested to make these things super good is crazy compared to how borked tanks are. But, I still has fun flying :) Just wish the maps were better designed for a dropship. Ugh mildly self aggrandising post mixed with veiled jab at mechanic we already know are broken.....looking for approval...... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Leonid Tybalt Inner.Hell 484	Posted - 2014.04.25 10:47:00 - [23] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Dropships are fun to fly! ... too late? Yeah, must be fun to be an invincible deathdealer, killing people on the ground who cannot shoot back at all (seeing as how tanks can't elevate their turrets high enough, and AV isn't effective enough to prevent you from just activating an afterburner and lifting off at lightspeed and be able to outrun swarm missiles with ease), and only have your own tunnelvision and incompetence to fear since the only way non ADS pilots can shoot you down is when you're not paying attention. Yeah, God-Mode must be hella fun! Btw, aren't you late for making yet another tired thread where you try to push for making dropships even more invincible and overpowered than they are already?
Denchlad 7 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 186	Posted - 2014.04.25 10:50:00 - [24] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Dropships are fun to fly! ... too late? Yeah, must be fun to be an invincible deathdealer, killing people on the ground who cannot shoot back at all (seeing as how tanks can't elevate their turrets high enough, and AV isn't effective enough to prevent you from just activating an afterburner and lifting off at lightspeed and be able to outrun swarm missiles with ease), and only have your own tunnelvision and incompetence to fear since the only way non ADS pilots can shoot you down is when you're not paying attention. Yeah, God-Mode must be hella fun! Btw, aren't you late for making yet another tired thread where you try to push for making dropships even more invincible and overpowered than they are already? Dropship =/= Assault Dropship The point of this thread is they are fun to fly, regardless of the ability of a pilot who can blow you off the ground with superior piloting abilities. Was attempting to proto every weapon a bad idea? Yes. 12 so far If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1128	Posted - 2014.04.25 11:13:00 - [25] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Dropships are fun to fly! ... too late? Yeah, must be fun to be an invincible deathdealer, killing people on the ground who cannot shoot back at all (seeing as how tanks can't elevate their turrets high enough, and AV isn't effective enough to prevent you from just activating an afterburner and lifting off at lightspeed and be able to outrun swarm missiles with ease), and only have your own tunnelvision and incompetence to fear since the only way non ADS pilots can shoot you down is when you're not paying attention. Yeah, God-Mode must be hella fun! Btw, aren't you late for making yet another tired thread where you try to push for making dropships even more invincible and overpowered than they are already? god mode, yeah tell that to my wallet!
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 773	Posted - 2014.04.25 15:40:00 - [26] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Dropships are fun to fly! ... too late? Yeah, must be fun to be an invincible deathdealer, killing people on the ground who cannot shoot back at all (seeing as how tanks can't elevate their turrets high enough, and AV isn't effective enough to prevent you from just activating an afterburner and lifting off at lightspeed and be able to outrun swarm missiles with ease), and only have your own tunnelvision and incompetence to fear since the only way non ADS pilots can shoot you down is when you're not paying attention. Yeah, God-Mode must be hella fun! Btw, aren't you late for making yet another tired thread where you try to push for making dropships even more invincible and overpowered than they are already? Wow, someone got their feelings hurt. Nobody fcks monkeys AND people you idiot.You either fck monkeys, or you fck people.Theres no in between. Dave Chappelle
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 503	Posted - 2014.04.25 15:51:00 - [27] - Quote Dunk Mujunk wrote: Awry Barux wrote: Cinnamon267 wrote: I do try and spend most of a match just screwing around and seeing what I can do. I slightly prefer the Gallente stuff. Don't know why just seems easier to control. Caldari stuff seems to be way more squirmy. They are fun. I just wish some people would leave me be. Let a man fly in peace people! Especially those annoying people who try and ram you. I know the Incubus is more stable, but don't do it, man. Python for life! The squirmyness is actually just the Python's light weight and higher agility. The Incubus goes faster in a straight line, but the Python will fly rings around it. The Python is hands down the best dogfighter, mainly due to its superior ability to climb. I can out fly many Python pilots in my 4881 armor Inky when we are decreasing altittude, but I can never get my gun high enough in a climb to connect with a Python if the guy is paying attention. I would imagine the Python is a better tank killer as well, especially with the Caldari ADS bonuses. All that said, the Incubus is THE choice for anti infantry. As Awry mentioned it is nice and stable, not only when manuvering, but even when getting hit by things like forges there is less movement transfered due to its weight, its ability to stack armor obviously makes it more survivable, which lets you stay lower and remain on site longer. I personally don't run reps, so I have no cool downs to wait for or mods to activate. Obviously serious damage requires a retreat to the supply depot, but 4800+ armor lasts a suprisingly long time as long as i'm not flying stupid. I think both ships have their own positives and styles, and both can be massivly effective in the proper situations. I think it comes down to what kind of flying you want to do. I'll get into the Python one day for sure, but I love flying my iron brick as low and fast as I can, then parking over a spot and raining devistation while I soak up damage. Once you skill into gallente dropships skill, you will realize that, with a rail gun, the incubus is actually quite devastating against vehicles -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 490	Posted - 2014.04.25 15:57:00 - [28] - Quote 16 mil SP into dropships/upgrades/turrets, i love every point spent. i have absolutely zero fear of MLT tank. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 97	Posted - 2014.04.25 16:00:00 - [29] - Quote I just wish they would take the self leveling off the basic dropship, or at least give us an option to enable/disable that feature. I fly on the edge of falling out of the sky all the time and the self leveling really throws that off and is the reason I fly ADS all the time.
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 490	Posted - 2014.04.25 16:04:00 - [30] - Quote Cinnamon267 wrote: I'm also enjoying how often I die for no logical reason. I was flying over the enemy MCC before and for reasons I don't know I just went from full health to zero. I didn't hit it. I was really far above it. No RDV came in and one shotted me. Confused as to what happened :\ u were hit by the null cannon round that fires down on the MCC u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189



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