DUST Search - 20,000,000 SP and still..

Maken Tosch wrote:

You're kidding me, right? 20,000,000 lifetime SP and no proto suits? You spread yourself too thin there.

I have 18,000,000 SP and here is the breakdown of what I got trained up.

Amarr Scout Dropsuit 5
Minmatar Scout Dropsuit 4 (cross training back to this)
Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades 5
Cardiac Regulation 4
Kinetic Catalyzation 5
Dropsuit Core Upgrades 5
Cloak Field Operation 5
Dropsuit Electronics 5
Profile Dampening 5
Range Amplification 5
Dropsuit Engineering 5
Systems Hacking 3
Dropsuit Armor Upgrades 2
Dropsuit Shield Upgrades 4
Shield Extension 4
Handheld Weapon Upgrades 4
Light Weapon Operation 3
Swarm Launcher Operation 3
Sidearm Operation 5
Nova Knife Operation 5
Nova Knife Proficiency 5
Submachine Gun Operation 4
Submachine Gun Sharpshooter 3

Almost two proto suits on top of my proto knives and I got less SP than you with advanced SMG and swarms to help me adapt. Again, you spread yourself too thin. But that's ok. You have every right to be the jack of all trades but master of none. XD

NOTE: Uplinks, Active scanner operation not listed.

Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov

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Patrick57 7148	Posted - 2014.04.23 10:41:00 - [31] - Quote 30 mil SP, Proto Heavy and Scout, with Vehicle skills as well, but I don't even have all my cores maxed. :'( I have most of them, but I'm really lacking in the Biotics skill tree. ;_; Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
McFurious TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 714	Posted - 2014.04.23 10:52:00 - [32] - Quote I'm ~34 million SP and I currently only have 1 protosuit. If I spent the 2.5 mil unallocated then I could have 2 but all the rest of it is in weapons and core skills. Proficiency skills are expensive. Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 374	Posted - 2014.04.23 12:16:00 - [33] - Quote I waited until 41 mil sp before I went proto. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
IceShifter Childhaspawn DUST University Ivy League 557	Posted - 2014.04.23 12:25:00 - [34] - Quote Cores are as maxed as I care to. Weapons are to 5 except the novelties. Cant afford to run the stuff. I use my proto injector religiously. Does that count? EP 1.8: Revenge of the Scouts Hiding in the redline means: I want to play, just not with *you* +25 = I'm helping
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2000	Posted - 2014.04.23 12:29:00 - [35] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: lol how did u manage to do this..... i have like 7 things proto Core skills are mostly done and I have g scout to 4. Shotgun and Rail Rifle and SMG to Prof 5. Sounds like you're doing it right to me, tho i would get my main weapon/sidearm to proto for the dps buff from proficiency. At 40 million sp i've only got a few equipment skills left to get to proto and the 'Upgrades' tab will be done foreverGäó I support SP rollover.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona 1242	Posted - 2014.04.23 13:11:00 - [36] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: You're kidding me, right? 20,000,000 lifetime SP and no proto suits? You spread yourself too thin there. I have 18,000,000 SP and here is the breakdown of what I got trained up. Amarr Scout Dropsuit 5 Minmatar Scout Dropsuit 4 (cross training back to this) Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades 5 Cardiac Regulation 4 Kinetic Catalyzation 5 Dropsuit Core Upgrades 5 Cloak Field Operation 5 Dropsuit Electronics 5 Profile Dampening 5 Range Amplification 5 Dropsuit Engineering 5 Systems Hacking 3 Dropsuit Armor Upgrades 2 Dropsuit Shield Upgrades 4 Shield Extension 4 Handheld Weapon Upgrades 4 Light Weapon Operation 3 Swarm Launcher Operation 3 Sidearm Operation 5 Nova Knife Operation 5 Nova Knife Proficiency 5 Submachine Gun Operation 4 Submachine Gun Sharpshooter 3 Almost two proto suits on top of my proto knives and I got less SP than you with advanced SMG and swarms to help me adapt. Again, you spread yourself too thin. But that's ok. You have every right to be the jack of all trades but master of none. XD NOTE: Uplinks, Active scanner operation not listed. Wut? You are a long time vet and 18mil SP? There's an approppriate gif out there which i can't link since I'm on the phone but it goes something like this: A man with a moustache and blue suit waves his hand with a pen and says something along 'I don't something something you' :D Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 576	Posted - 2014.04.23 13:12:00 - [37] - Quote Small question - what do you consider core? If it's everything under the core skills upgrades branch, then wow o.o "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
waistr DEAD-MEN-WALKING 177	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:06:00 - [38] - Quote Just cracked 45 mil this weekend, skilled into my 1st proto suit only because there was nothing else of intrest to skill into. CCP you need to look into this, I need something else to shoot for
ishtellian SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 54	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:12:00 - [39] - Quote I have 15 million SP and the only proto things I have are my Galogi, Which I cant even afford to run more than once every game And when I say proto i mean the actual suit, no proto modules at all. My Heavy Never Dies. Logibro In training.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United Caps and Mercs 241	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:12:00 - [40] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: lol how did u manage to do this..... i have like 7 things proto Core skills are mostly done and I have g scout to 4. Shotgun and Rail Rifle and SMG to Prof 5. That is mostly the problem, the 5 th proficiency point cost alot with those two you would have got youself almost a protosuit they are at 750k sp. Kudos for raising your core skills ! I am at 31 millions and have 2 protosuit since respect and only one weapon level 5 the scrambler rifle, now i dont even use it anymore and that is sad cause i would have transfered those to vehicles. Inany cases watch out for those last points that would raise other areas of your merc better. Spend wisely and do the maths!

Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 963	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:15:00 - [41] - Quote Until 1.8 this was a viable strategy - I didn't spec proto until 15 mil SP or so. However racial suit skills matter a lot more now so you really should have at least one suit specced to proto if you have 20 mil SP. It doesn't matter if you never even use proto suits, you need to invest the SP to get the bonuses when using standard or advanced suits.
Denchlad 7 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 169	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:21:00 - [42] - Quote 23,500,000 here, 1 Proto suit, 12 Proto weapons. I shall get them all. Was attempting to proto every weapon a bad idea? Yes. 12 so far If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world
Yan Darn Science For Death 633	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:25:00 - [43] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: 20 mil- would have left my suit at ADV but you really don't see much benefit from scout bonuses without Scout V. I had no proto suits prior to 1.8, but now I gotta have that cloak fitting reduction. Even before 1.8 it was worth Scout 5 for me - for the range bonus and I didn't need dampening 5 (unless I was planning to run proto gal with 4 complex damps a single basic with damp lv3 was all I needed). Anyway 24mil now and still only got gal scout to 5 (only points is DS command)- I rarely use proto, though admittedly in 1.8 it's worth it. Trouble is, I finally have everything I need - I don't want to Invest more in weaponry until CCP calm down with nerfs/buffs... If they reduced the cost of complex kin-cats though.... The Ghost of Bravo
howard sanchez YELLOWCAB SERVICES 895	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:29:00 - [44] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: No proto skilled fits. Of course I've run the "Federation" proto gear just to see what its like; but all in all the core skills have sucked up almost every bit of SP I've earned. Anyone else got high SP but not rocking PRO suits? 37 million SP here. While I have Gallente Scout V I don't own a single proto drop suit. I haven't even tried one on. My win condition when playing Dust is not tied to my KDr or even to a large extent my Win:Loss. I live for the long term profit. I want the economic battlefield to be as rich and complex as the ground we fight on.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1829	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:37:00 - [45] - Quote I Did the same.. Was around 18-20m SP i got my first Proto suit. in EVE online there is a saying about being able to "Sit" In your ship or actually "Fly" it. Referring to the skills and proffeciencies to actually Fly that Ship Hull rather then just have enough skills to sit in it... Not use it well. Works here in DUST aswell. ADV suits with core skills maxed are beast. Proto suits without core skills and modules to support it.. Is just a waste and doesn't yield results. The Learning curve of working with the same weapons and modules you'll use on a Proto suit allowing you to gain familiarity and knowledge of the items, but with an inferior suit.. also simulates a learning curve in DUST allowing your player skills to improve by virtue of the competition you are facing and thriving in.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 487	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:38:00 - [46] - Quote 20 mill in core/upgrades 20 mill in weaponry gallente and caldari scout maxed and I run standard 95% of the time most of my fits consist of standard suit, a mix of standard - complex modules standard weapons with passives maxed, and advanced equipment. Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Onesimus Tarsus 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1934	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:41:00 - [47] - Quote Rygharr Sturmeister wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: 26,000,000 SP and only one specialty suit to ADV. All passive cores maxed. Even if the suit is never used, shouldn't one at least skill a specialty suit to level 5 for the racial bonuses? Amarr Scout, and I don't/won't cloak. The bonuses are pretty negligible above ADV compared to expense. 1.9 forum warrior. SMG wielder. Mama's boy. I'm right, you're wrong. Adjust.
noobsniper the 2nd Inner.Hell 421	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:48:00 - [48] - Quote I dunno I have 27 mill sp max cores pro cal scout like 6-7 pro weapons most prof 3 or higher "things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2690	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:49:00 - [49] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Rygharr Sturmeister wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: 26,000,000 SP and only one specialty suit to ADV. All passive cores maxed. Even if the suit is never used, shouldn't one at least skill a specialty suit to level 5 for the racial bonuses? Amarr Scout, and I don't/won't cloak. The bonuses are pretty negligible above ADV compared to expense. I think I'd say the tipping point is at level 4. Otherwise I agree that the few extra percentage points of bonus are not a big enough return on investment. The 1.2 million it costs to get to level 5 is probably better spent elsewhere for most people unless you are planning on actually using the proto suits themselves. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 519	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:52:00 - [50] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: No proto skilled fits. Of course I've run the "Federation" proto gear just to see what its like; but all in all the core skills have sucked up almost every bit of SP I've earned. Anyone else got high SP but not rocking PRO suits? 13 million and only have standard. Too many roles to play plus that ISK. Because, that's why.

Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 352	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:58:00 - [51] - Quote A little over 27 million sp and not a single suit at proto. That last level just doesn't seem worth it. Cores got pretty much maxed out first, and my strategy after that was to put points into the weapons and suits I have a Std bpo for that I actually liked. AR, SMG, Sniper Rifle, Laser Rifle. After those I'll take Amarr and Caldari Assault suits to 4. Then I have no idea.
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 201	Posted - 2014.04.23 15:11:00 - [52] - Quote I have enough free SP at the moment to get gScout 5. But I'm looking at my core skills and wondering if I should finish off the range amplification first. The scout bonus is nice, but i don't see myself really needing to run the proto fits. I use STD weapons and my Dragonfly suit 99% of the time. The rare time when I use STD or PRO weapons is when I have a bunch of them i got for free.
G Torq ALTA B2O 710	Posted - 2014.04.23 15:16:00 - [53] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: No proto skilled fits. Of course I've run the "Federation" proto gear just to see what its like; but all in all the core skills have sucked up almost every bit of SP I've earned. Anyone else got high SP but not rocking PRO suits? 31 mill, not a single dropsuit over level 3 Swarms + AR ops 5 (but never fitted a Duvolle), all small turrets ops 5, prof 3... (several core dropsuit/vehicle core skills at 5 though) Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4329	Posted - 2014.04.23 15:50:00 - [54] - Quote IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: lol how did u manage to do this..... i have like 7 things proto ^this 23+ sp on this toon and 3 proto suits.....none are the "basic" version of a suit..... How have you done this? Alpha Response Command (ALREC) The premier training corp for commandos. Apply today!
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 202	Posted - 2014.04.23 15:52:00 - [55] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: IMMORTAL WAR HERO wrote: lol how did u manage to do this..... i have like 7 things proto ^this 23+ sp on this toon and 3 proto suits.....none are the "basic" version of a suit..... How have you done this? Maxed core skills
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 488	Posted - 2014.04.23 20:49:00 - [56] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: I have enough free SP at the moment to get gScout 5. But I'm looking at my core skills and wondering if I should finish off the range amplification first. The scout bonus is nice, but i don't see myself really needing to run the proto fits. I use STD weapons and my Dragonfly suit 99% of the time. The rare time when I use STD or PRO weapons is when I have a bunch of them i got for free. the core skills will make the std dragonfly awesome Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 1250	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:02:00 - [57] - Quote 31 million SP. No prototype suits. My highest is Caldari Assault 4 because I needed to hit 4 to be able to fit it a specific way. I rarely use anything other than Basic when on the ground. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
akira 1999 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 44	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:10:00 - [58] - Quote over 20mil but only a few items proto.. no suits though non specialist so I do it all except drop ships cause I still need level 3 to unlock ADS. And crossing over into vehicles is a huge SP investment as well with all the support skills they have. prefer having lots of options as opposed to be only a tanker or only a proto assault with full proto gear. same way that I have played eve for the last 5 years. non specialist.
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 122	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:16:00 - [59] - Quote 18.5 mil sp & just got proto cal scout last night. Had proto cal assault in 1.7, but got some deep core skills taken care of at respec.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3797	Posted - 2014.04.23 21:19:00 - [60] - Quote I have 3, almost 4 Proto suits, 4 or 5 weapons with Proficiency, cores, passive scans, and I'm only at 27,000,000. What did I do wrong? You'll rarely see me in those Protos. If you see me in something other than MLT, somebody pissed me off and I'm on the hunt. I GÖú Kittens.



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