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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:32:00 -
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This is merely a outsider looking from a neutral point. It is not meant to offend or lead to arguement. The post is meant to form thought & fair debate. This is only speculation, observation, & a few facts. I have friends in & outside DNS personally. Thank You.
That aside allow me to begin. From what I was told why DNS took Molden Heath it was a good reason. And in all truthfulness PC led to wars & friends being broke apart, infact with less PC perhaps smaller corporations can get around more. This is NOT a moment to fear just yet. This is a moment Dust decides what it is here & now.
DNS you have the choice to be the best thing to ever hit Dust. A better choice then all alliances before such as EON. or some others. Beating the game itself by uniting us & thus doing the impossible - A United New Eden!?
You can unite us & lead Dust down a stable path to be a good game with a great & better community.
Or you can ripe yourself apart & literally destroy Dust itself quite possibly if not correctly handled which is the WORST case scenario.
You may choose to do nothing & enjoy the spot but eventually the choice will come rather DNS likes it or not I believe.
Currenlty no one can really oppose DNS nor ever at the moment. That means ONLY DNS can handle DNS. DNS has the planets, DNS has the top best active players, DNS has the system, DNS has the influence, DNS has the allies, & DNS has the precious ISK.
It'll come to the good, bad, & neutral in DNS having to handle each-other. And it is the bad people I worry most about if anything because they'll lead to the following I will state shortly. For their are bad, good, & neutral people everywhere. Not just in DNS mind you.
Those are the facts.
From that we can gather glimpses of possible outcomes.... Though it may not be the goal or desire of DNS it may happen.
I will state the most likely from what I see in my opinion: With DNS having it's new found post members (Not All) in DNS will take advantage of the situation. Situation being - DNS the primary power of the time. They'll be jerks to anyone not DNS believing they are lesser & scrubs, if they oppose the wrong doing they'll just say "Welcome To New Eden" as the Dust community has foolishly accepted & started saying.
With no real opponents they'll become bored & where is all that ISK, eager members & proto fits to go? Why, only 2 places (7 places to be exact) - Pubs & FW. This'll lead to why I believe it MIGHT (though unlikely) may begin to break Dust. No one will oppose them much but themselves in time. So they'll proto stomp & unfairly crush the majority of people be they new or veteran. With the massive ISK it'll be nothing to loose 7 proto dropships, 5 proto Tanks, & 25 proto fits as they'll have billions.
The good will try to stabalize it & they'll do things like TDome events in PC's, sticking up for corporations not in DNS, running trainning PC's, getting DNS on the right path to unite Dust. But the bad are chaos & that'll go against what they want so they'll give them a hard time in they're efforts.
But it'll leak from DNS into pubs & other corporations. With time DNS will grow apart with the neaural being torn from friends, good & bad DNS making sides.
Then it'll lead to betrayal &/or civil war with the group breaking. Sending massive shockwaves everywhere which will last years. Even if DNS falls only some groups will have power & needless to say it'll be bad. If Dust isn't destroyed by the insanity. Not to mention outside groups will jump in the party.
However if it is handle right it may fall with considerable less ruin.
Or will DNS defie Dust & do the impossible - truely making a United New Eden. Only time will tell with the following choices that DNS makes.
I only hope it ends well for everyone be they DNS or no.... |
Games Haven
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
61
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:37:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote: "Welcome To New Eden"
Of all the cesspools and scumbags that this forum (and by extension, game) throws out, this is the worst f**kin' thing I have ever heard uttered by another human in this slum of a community.
+1
May or may not be not the guy you might be thinking of.
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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
244
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:41:00 -
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Indeed it has become a phrase for wrong doing in Dust I hope DNS can change the maning of it to where & when someone says "Welcome To New Eden" it'll be something good, nostalgic & welcoming to the community instead of something to push people away. |
Roofer Madness
1057
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:43:00 -
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Someone drank all the damn Kool-Aid.....
I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
246
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:49:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Someone drank all the damn Kool-Aid.....
Trying to get precious likes by being the 1st to make a snappy come back? Reflect deeply on this becuase it will affect Dust. |
Roofer Madness
1057
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:55:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Someone drank all the damn Kool-Aid..... Trying to get precious likes by being the 1st to make a snappy come back? Reflect deeply on this becuase it will affect Dust.
I couldn't give a stiff wet fart about likes. I just can't believe how gullible some people in this community can be.
I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
246
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:58:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Someone drank all the damn Kool-Aid..... Trying to get precious likes by being the 1st to make a snappy come back? Reflect deeply on this becuase it will affect Dust. I couldn't give a stiff wet fart about likes. I just can't believe how gullible some people in this community can be.
Says the guy with 1000+ likes, well no matter. Are you here to debate or state some logical thoughts or not? If not go think a little, reflect then maybe come back. Thank You. |
Roofer Madness
1057
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:03:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Someone drank all the damn Kool-Aid..... Trying to get precious likes by being the 1st to make a snappy come back? Reflect deeply on this becuase it will affect Dust. I couldn't give a stiff wet fart about likes. I just can't believe how gullible some people in this community can be. Says the guy with 1000+ likes, well no matter. Are you here to debate or state some logical thoughts or not? If not go think a little, reflect then maybe come back. Thank You.
OK, I'll bite. First of all, take that extra goddamn 'a' out of neutral you ******* moron. Second, I have been playing this game and frequenting the forums for a long while now and 1,000 likes is not that hard to come by. Just ask General John Ripper. lol Finally, one could argue that this thread you just made is the weakest ass Like Farm since Alltitm's last AV/tank post but maybe I'm just in a bad mood today so I'll let that one slide.
Way to derail your own thread by the way....
I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
246
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:07:00 -
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I do not plan to reply again to a ranter. This is the last time I will acknowledge your nonesense.
Obviously you didn't read my 1st sentence & I am neutral as last i checked i'm on no 1's side nor am I a great oh so powerful mega corporation.
Begone, this is a place for thought & debate not colorful war room hating. With cursing & snappy comebacks. |
Darth Threatius
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:16:00 -
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DNS did not take the Molden Heath.
What happened was the majority of districts held by the "now" corps in the alliance locked districts for months on end refusing to fight each other. Then when CCP put an end to the locking districts and farming ISK, they decide to all join up in DNS instead of fighting.
I respect your post. But In my opinion, thinking that DNS now has control of how the game will be played by everyone else is not going to fly with many. I think anyone who would participate in Events or any other activities coming out of the DNS alliance is only strengthening their ego and arrogance.
One thing is for sure, Many of the Corps. in the DNS alliance are "Alliance Hoppers" filled with "Corp. Hoppers" Maybe they will stick together now that they have and do exploit every flaw of the game... or maybe not.
As long we as individuals enjoy playing Pubs, FW and the occasional clone pack PC then that is all that really matters.
This could be a picture that you could look at yet now you're wasting your time reading this.
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Roofer Madness
1059
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:19:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:I do not plan to reply again to a ranter. This is the last time I will acknowledge your nonesense.
Obviously you didn't read my 1st sentence & I am neutral as last i checked i'm on no 1's side nor am I a great oh so powerful mega corporation. Not here to take sides. Going for how I write a word means you have nothing logical.
Begone, this is a place for thought & debate not colorful war room hating. With cursing & snappy comebacks.
PS: Ty for confirming some of which I spoke above.
I'm sorry but your are sadly misinformed. This is exactly the place for snappy comebacks and cursing. It's the war room. Go to General Discussion if you're looking for someone to hold your hand. And obviously English is not your first language so my bad on the grammar correction. Carry on.
I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
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General John Ripper
20355
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:29:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:This is merely a outsider looking from a neutral point.... This is only speculation...
From what I was told why DNS took Molden Heath it was a good reason....
And in all truthfulness PC led to wars & friends being broke apart, infact with less PC perhaps smaller corporations can get around more, it may actually benefit Dust some....
You can unite us & lead Dust down a stable path to be a good game with a great & better community.....
Or you can ripe yourself apart & literally destroy Dust itself quite possibly if not correctly handled which is the WORST case scenario.....
Just highlighting some failworthy statements on your part outsider.
Thread is now being reviewed and is now under consideration for dumbest thread of the year award. Congratulations.
Stop liking my posts!! Your killing me!!! Noo! Arrgghhh!!!
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Roofer Madness
1060
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:40:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:This is merely a outsider looking from a neutral point.... This is only speculation...
From what I was told why DNS took Molden Heath it was a good reason....
And in all truthfulness PC led to wars & friends being broke apart, infact with less PC perhaps smaller corporations can get around more, it may actually benefit Dust some....
You can unite us & lead Dust down a stable path to be a good game with a great & better community.....
Or you can ripe yourself apart & literally destroy Dust itself quite possibly if not correctly handled which is the WORST case scenario..... Just highlighting some failworthy statements on your part outsider. Thread is now being reviewed and is now under consideration for dumbest thread of the year award. Congratulations.
WOW! And it's only April!
I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
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General John Ripper
20358
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:46:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:General John Ripper wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:This is merely a outsider looking from a neutral point.... This is only speculation...
From what I was told why DNS took Molden Heath it was a good reason....
And in all truthfulness PC led to wars & friends being broke apart, infact with less PC perhaps smaller corporations can get around more, it may actually benefit Dust some....
You can unite us & lead Dust down a stable path to be a good game with a great & better community.....
Or you can ripe yourself apart & literally destroy Dust itself quite possibly if not correctly handled which is the WORST case scenario..... Just highlighting some failworthy statements on your part outsider. Thread is now being reviewed and is now under consideration for dumbest thread of the year award. Congratulations. WOW! And it's only April! I know, he should feel honored! It is quite an achievement.
Stop liking my posts!! Your killing me!!! Noo! Arrgghhh!!!
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Darth-Carbonite GIO
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
641
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:56:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote: From what I was told why DNS took Molden Heath it was a good reason. And in all truthfulness PC led to wars & friends being broke apart, infact with less PC perhaps smaller corporations can get around more, it may actually benefit Dust some.
^This^ is the point at which I facepalmed, and started to look for youtube cat videos.
Preeminent Scrambler Slayer And Python Pilot
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Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day
246
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Posted - 2014.04.21 23:07:00 -
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Ty all for proving my exact point about the community & sincee this post has not been moved it is fine 4 the war room, forbid i write smething good & debateable. Funny only certain people show up 2 destroy it before it begins to actually make people think. Therefore i willn no longer just ingore a certain person, i will only notice those tslking logicslly.
Let others have thry're say people known and not well known in a civil mannar before coming here ll high and mighty to troll before others who's voices u deny hav a say.
Thank You. |
Roofer Madness
1060
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Posted - 2014.04.21 23:15:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:Ty all for proving my exact point about the community & since this post has not been moved it is fine 4 the war room, forbid i write something good & debateable. Funny only certain people show up 2 destroy it before it begins to actually make people think. Therefore i will no longer just ingore a certain person, i will only notice those talking logically.
Let others have they're say people known and not well known in a civil mannar before coming here all high and mighty to troll before others who's voices u deny hav a say.
Thank You.
The only thing this thread is making people think is this.
I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
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yep derrith again
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2014.04.21 23:22:00 -
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Darth Threatius wrote: 1DNS did not take the Molden Heath. What happened was 2 the majority of districts held by the "now" corps in the alliance locked districts for months on end refusing to fight each other. Then when CCP put an end to the locking districts and farming ISK, 3 they decide to all join up in DNS instead of fighting.
I respect your post. But In my opinion, 4 thinking that DNS now has control of how the game will be played by everyone else is not going to fly with many. 5 I think anyone who would participate in Events or any other activities coming out of the DNS alliance is only strengthening their ego and arrogance.
One thing is for sure, 6Many of the Corps. in the DNS alliance are "Alliance Hoppers" filled with "Corp. Hoppers" Maybe they will stick together now that they have and do exploit every flaw of the game... or maybe not.
As long we as individuals enjoy playing Pubs, FW and the occasional clone pack PC then that is all that really matters.
1) I guess you missed the part where DNS took 96% of MH......
2) So I guess the times Zatara intentionally left one or two districts online for AE to attack falls under refusing to fight each other.....
3) I'll give you that, but in all fairness we were the only people actually doing any fighting, thus the joke ring the bat-phone.
4) You know, for a good long while, everyone was doing exactly what that statement implies they wouldn't do about it, nothing.
5) our arrogance and ego need to be padded, it's very important.
6) DNS was a merger between NF, RA and RND. The only alliance hopper corp that could be seen as such is FA, and we're getting paid from the alliance, don't see a reason to leave. The only backing corp that backs your claim is FA, which is about oh...... one. I doubt that means DNS is full of alliance hoppers.
Official DNS alt The official panty monk of FA.
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2411
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Posted - 2014.04.21 23:30:00 -
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No. One. Cares
/thread
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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yep derrith again
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
237
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Posted - 2014.04.22 00:11:00 -
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One more thing Vin, and don't take this insultingly. Your statements are WAY too long. Few (emphasis on few, some exist) true war room vets will actually read all that unless you add at the beginning there will be fart jokes. Even then, I can't bring myself to read more than four paragraphs, and I'm pretty much your average joe war room vet.
Not trying to be a douche, but just for future reference.
Official DNS alt The official panty monk of FA.
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1675
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:00:00 -
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Meh. DNS, from what I've heard and seen, is already leaking over into Pubs and FW. It won't be too long before they split up due to petty crap and just being bored with the game. *Shrugs* But whatever, they're "winning" or whatever the bullshit statement of the day is.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
http://royventus.tumblr.com
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Canari Elphus
Dirt Nap Squad.
1453
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Posted - 2014.04.22 05:46:00 -
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Things everyone can agree on: - This game has become stale - The veteran experience sucks as much as the new player experience (where to vets evolve to beyond pubs?) - PC was broken from the start - Cronos -> EoN. -> DNS. Once one alliance gets an advantage its becomes a snowball effect - Its CCPs job to decide where to go from here, not the players.
While many might not believe in the stated mission of 100% MH, I would hope that they realize that the mechanics behind PC are utterly flawed and that the situation will always favor the corp/alliance that can put the best 16 on the field the most regularly which has nothing to do with actual war at all. There are no alternative tactics that smaller corps can use to try to carve out their own niche. There is no war of attrition where it comes down to who is willing to risk more resources.
If CCP spent more effort on PC rather than just stapling pub matches onto a star map, this might not be an issue.
So, if you believe DNS' campaign is hot air, that is fine and your right. But at least raise your voices to CCP that its their lack of depth and foresight that caused this and will continue to cause it.
Canari Elphus for CPM1
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
200
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Posted - 2014.04.22 08:47:00 -
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This game reminds me of American citizens. Complain about problems of their country but do nothing to change it. Unless it involves signing an online petition or posting your complaint on twitter.
Saying what's on people's minds
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LIFE RIPPER
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
219
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Posted - 2014.04.22 09:14:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:This game reminds me of American citizens. Complain about problems of their country but do nothing to change it. Unless it involves signing an online petition or posting your complaint on twitter.
Is this where I sign? |
Darth Threatius
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
52
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Posted - 2014.04.22 11:52:00 -
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yep derrith again wrote:Darth Threatius wrote: 1DNS did not take the Molden Heath. What happened was 2 the majority of districts held by the "now" corps in the alliance locked districts for months on end refusing to fight each other. Then when CCP put an end to the locking districts and farming ISK, 3 they decide to all join up in DNS instead of fighting.
I respect your post. But In my opinion, 4 thinking that DNS now has control of how the game will be played by everyone else is not going to fly with many. 5 I think anyone who would participate in Events or any other activities coming out of the DNS alliance is only strengthening their ego and arrogance.
One thing is for sure, 6Many of the Corps. in the DNS alliance are "Alliance Hoppers" filled with "Corp. Hoppers" Maybe they will stick together now that they have and do exploit every flaw of the game... or maybe not.
As long we as individuals enjoy playing Pubs, FW and the occasional clone pack PC then that is all that really matters.
1) I guess you missed the part where DNS took 96% of MH...... 2) So I guess the times Zatara intentionally left one or two districts online for AE to attack falls under refusing to fight each other..... 3) I'll give you that, but in all fairness we were the only people actually doing any fighting, thus the joke ring the bat-phone. 4) You know, for a good long while, everyone was doing exactly what that statement implies they wouldn't do about it, nothing. 5) our arrogance and ego need to be padded, it's very important. 6) DNS was a merger between NF, RA and RND. The only alliance hopper corp that could be seen as such is FA, and we're getting paid from the alliance, don't see a reason to leave. The only backing corp that backs your claim is FA, which is about oh...... one. I doubt that means DNS is full of alliance hoppers.
1. The alliance was not all together when districts were claimed. As corps. joined DNS the total became 96%. Therefore DNS did not take 96% as an Alliance.
2. Of course. Leaving a district unlocked on occasion does not take away from the abuse of district locking.
6. You call it merging I call it Hopping. Not really and issue but it seems it was the easy way out.
This is what I feel like i'm reading when you troll me derrith
This could be a picture that you could look at yet now you're wasting your time reading this.
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The-Beard
181
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Posted - 2014.04.22 13:38:00 -
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Vinsarrow wrote:
With no real opponents they'll become bored & where is all that ISK, eager members & proto fits to go? Why, only 2 places (7 places to be exact) - Pubs & FW. This'll lead to why I believe it MIGHT (though unlikely) may begin to break Dust. No one will oppose them much but themselves in time. So they'll proto stomp & unfairly crush the majority of people be they new or veteran. With the massive ISK it'll be nothing to loose 7 proto dropships, 5 proto Tanks, & 25 proto fits as they'll have billions.
TP did this in match I was in. They were on the enemy side and my team didn't really get stomp'd or unfairly crushed. The map was manis peak and we had the side with the ridge. For the first time I saw a python get used like a trash viper, they flew it right into the ridge crashing it, jumped out and tried to take the hill. They kept bringing in maddys which we kept popping with RE's and in the end we got clone'd out. They had 2 or 3 clones left, very close match. Out of the 6 TP in that match only 2 had better then 1 kdr.
It was pretty fun match. Granted TP did lose millions of isk to win a pub which is kinda funny and sad at the same time (funny that they lost it, sad that it didn't matter). I don't see the point of playing a game on easy mode. Like a tranny in TJ, give it to me rough, dirty and bare back
Shout out to Fusion and unique1ID.. you both did carry the team with your kills and those perfect OB's Fusion laid down. I just wish I got some wp for those scans, picture a cloaked scout running circles in the middle of an enemy mob while being shot at and screaming to Fusion "drop it, DROP IT. DROP THE OB! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DROP THE F*CKING OB!" with him saying "ya, ya wait just a minute...AHHH! getting shot at! (shotgun goes off) ok, just a sec gotta find a safe spot AHHHH!! (shut gun goes off) ok, bringing it up "
To give you an image. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOlTONos9lk Ya, Fusion was willie and the bugs were the enemy. Although unique isn't short round... he doesn't like to get himself into interesting situations like I do. Either way /golf clap to TP for a fun match. |
Canari Elphus
Dirt Nap Squad.
1457
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Posted - 2014.04.22 14:43:00 -
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Darth Threatius wrote:yep derrith again wrote:Darth Threatius wrote: 1DNS did not take the Molden Heath. What happened was 2 the majority of districts held by the "now" corps in the alliance locked districts for months on end refusing to fight each other. Then when CCP put an end to the locking districts and farming ISK, 3 they decide to all join up in DNS instead of fighting.
I respect your post. But In my opinion, 4 thinking that DNS now has control of how the game will be played by everyone else is not going to fly with many. 5 I think anyone who would participate in Events or any other activities coming out of the DNS alliance is only strengthening their ego and arrogance.
One thing is for sure, 6Many of the Corps. in the DNS alliance are "Alliance Hoppers" filled with "Corp. Hoppers" Maybe they will stick together now that they have and do exploit every flaw of the game... or maybe not.
As long we as individuals enjoy playing Pubs, FW and the occasional clone pack PC then that is all that really matters.
1) I guess you missed the part where DNS took 96% of MH...... 2) So I guess the times Zatara intentionally left one or two districts online for AE to attack falls under refusing to fight each other..... 3) I'll give you that, but in all fairness we were the only people actually doing any fighting, thus the joke ring the bat-phone. 4) You know, for a good long while, everyone was doing exactly what that statement implies they wouldn't do about it, nothing. 5) our arrogance and ego need to be padded, it's very important. 6) DNS was a merger between NF, RA and RND. The only alliance hopper corp that could be seen as such is FA, and we're getting paid from the alliance, don't see a reason to leave. The only backing corp that backs your claim is FA, which is about oh...... one. I doubt that means DNS is full of alliance hoppers. 1. The alliance was not all together when districts were claimed. As corps. joined DNS the total became 96%. Therefore DNS did not take 96% as an Alliance. 2. Of course. Leaving a district unlocked on occasion does not take away from the abuse of district locking. 6. You call it merging I call it Hopping. Not really and issue but it seems it was the easy way out. This is what I feel like i'm reading when you troll me derrith
History Lesson:
AE, NS, ANON and DDB join Renagade Alliance FA, STB and ML move to General Tso's (they enter into a contract with NF)
Some skirmish fighting breaks out between the two but some corps begin to lock their districts as a defensive strategy. Some of the larger corps are annoyed that they can only defend and cannot attack due to this mechanic. General consensus is that, if CCP is going to allow it to happen, they will do it to until it gets fixed. Everyone (on both sides) locks up and waits for a response from CCP.
Some more battles do happen in the mean time but its pretty light comparatively...
CCP fixes (for the most part) district locking and war breaks out between RA and GTA. The battles are pretty even in the beginning.
Something happens between GTA and NF that sours the relationship. NF breaks ties with GTA.
RA enters into a relationship with NF which pushes the advantage over to RA and they being to start taking more and more districts. GTA slowly bleeds out of their districts.
ERA and RA merge into DNS towards the end of the war. After the war is over, FA and RND (and later others) join up with DNS and you have it as it is today.
The campaign for 100% MH begins
So yes, a good chunk of MH got merged into DNS with RA and ERA but its not like they didnt take that land themselves in the first place during the RA/GTA war. DNS did not take all 96% under its name but the initial members of the Dust side took a large chunk of it and they ,along with those that joined later, took the rest.
Canari Elphus for CPM1
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Everything Dies
Inner.Hell
664
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Posted - 2014.04.22 15:12:00 -
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"Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss."
To a casual player like myself, there doesn't seem to be any difference between DNS and those that came before it--namely, the same small core of a few dozen players of that can dominate an entire game mode vs. hundreds/thousands of other players.
Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit.
Eight months has been long enough...guess it's time to learn how to play with a squad.
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ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1424
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:25:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:
After the war is over, FA and RND (and later others) join up with DNS and you have it as it is today.
Wrong. the war was not over, rest of GTA was still fighting for their districts when FA and RND jumped ship. |
bigolenuts
Dirt Nap Squad.
561
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Posted - 2014.04.22 16:30:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Darth Threatius wrote:yep derrith again wrote:Darth Threatius wrote: 1DNS did not take the Molden Heath. What happened was 2 the majority of districts held by the "now" corps in the alliance locked districts for months on end refusing to fight each other. Then when CCP put an end to the locking districts and farming ISK, 3 they decide to all join up in DNS instead of fighting.
I respect your post. But In my opinion, 4 thinking that DNS now has control of how the game will be played by everyone else is not going to fly with many. 5 I think anyone who would participate in Events or any other activities coming out of the DNS alliance is only strengthening their ego and arrogance.
One thing is for sure, 6Many of the Corps. in the DNS alliance are "Alliance Hoppers" filled with "Corp. Hoppers" Maybe they will stick together now that they have and do exploit every flaw of the game... or maybe not.
As long we as individuals enjoy playing Pubs, FW and the occasional clone pack PC then that is all that really matters.
1) I guess you missed the part where DNS took 96% of MH...... 2) So I guess the times Zatara intentionally left one or two districts online for AE to attack falls under refusing to fight each other..... 3) I'll give you that, but in all fairness we were the only people actually doing any fighting, thus the joke ring the bat-phone. 4) You know, for a good long while, everyone was doing exactly what that statement implies they wouldn't do about it, nothing. 5) our arrogance and ego need to be padded, it's very important. 6) DNS was a merger between NF, RA and RND. The only alliance hopper corp that could be seen as such is FA, and we're getting paid from the alliance, don't see a reason to leave. The only backing corp that backs your claim is FA, which is about oh...... one. I doubt that means DNS is full of alliance hoppers. 1. The alliance was not all together when districts were claimed. As corps. joined DNS the total became 96%. Therefore DNS did not take 96% as an Alliance. 2. Of course. Leaving a district unlocked on occasion does not take away from the abuse of district locking. 6. You call it merging I call it Hopping. Not really and issue but it seems it was the easy way out. This is what I feel like i'm reading when you troll me derrith History Lesson: AE, NS, ANON and DDB join Renagade Alliance FA, STB and ML move to General Tso's (they enter into a contract with NF) Some skirmish fighting breaks out between the two but some corps begin to lock their districts as a defensive strategy. Some of the larger corps are annoyed that they can only defend and cannot attack due to this mechanic. General consensus is that, if CCP is going to allow it to happen, they will do it to until it gets fixed. Everyone (on both sides) locks up and waits for a response from CCP. Some more battles do happen in the mean time but its pretty light comparatively... CCP fixes (for the most part) district locking and war breaks out between RA and GTA. The battles are pretty even in the beginning. Something happens between GTA and NF that sours the relationship. NF breaks ties with GTA. RA enters into a relationship with NF which pushes the advantage over to RA and they being to start taking more and more districts. GTA slowly bleeds out of their districts. ERA and RA merge into DNS towards the end of the war. After the war is over, FA and RND (and later others) join up with DNS and you have it as it is today. The campaign for 100% MH begins So yes, a good chunk of MH got merged into DNS with RA and ERA but its not like they didnt take that land themselves in the first place during the RA/GTA war. DNS did not take all 96% under its name but the initial members of the Dust side took a large chunk of it and they ,along with those that joined later, took the rest.
And basically anyone who was not in RA/GTA would call one or the other when trouble was on the horizon. So why beat each others brains in daily/nightly? Group hug and hold the ISK. I know this concept doesn't register with some as I have been reading for the 2 weeks I was banned.
"I am not a liberator. Liberators do not exist. The people liberate themselves."-1958, Ernesto "Che" Guevara
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