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Ridire Greine
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:25:00 -
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A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous.
"Jolly cooperation"
Knight Solaire
Leading Scientist in the examination of 'Forwards'
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:26:00 -
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I think we found the 1.8 FOTM
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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N1ck Comeau
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:26:00 -
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my sig
If you run cloak and shotgun, you're a scrub
Don't brick tank that scout, come on, get good.
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A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:27:00 -
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Sounds like his gal scout got gimped due to the anti-hotfix hot fix. |
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Sourdough Muffins
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:28:00 -
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Brick tanked Scouts nerfed themselves. No need to get on them about Brick Tanking. Instead thank them for being easily scanned and too slow to run away. |
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1088
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:28:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous. Blame armor Shield tanking is ONLY viable on the Cal scout lol.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1415
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:30:00 -
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When i see a CR i cloak and run away unless they have low HP AND i can shoot them in the back. |
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KING CHECKMATE
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
5165
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:39:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous.
Not quite. Having MORE than 2 Complex Precision enhancers on a Cal scout lets you see Even Cloaked Scouts. Sometimes even Profile dampened + cloaked scouts PLUS, HP is not really a factor while being a good scout.
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:43:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Shield tanking is ONLY viable on the Cal scout lol. *facepalm*
Also, @ OP, your sig. ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png)
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
-William Shakespeare
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:44:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous. Not quite. Having MORE than 2 Complex Precision enhancers on a Cal scout lets you see Even Cloaked Scouts. Sometimes even Profile dampened + cloaked scouts PLUS, HP is not really a factor while being a good scout. Accually if your fighting other scouts eho have equal scanning as you HP can matter. |
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:44:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Shield tanking is ONLY viable on the Cal scout lol. *facepalm* Also, @ OP, your sig. ![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) Lol yup And 374 shields goes down fast But the cal scout with regs makes what shield taking should be
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Doctor Day
THE SUPERHEROS
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:45:00 -
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cloaked cal milita assault riflers are hell
Obvious troll is Obvious
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Christiphoros von Poe
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:45:00 -
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How much would you consider is being brick tanked? My proto Cal Scout has ~300 shield and ~80 armor. I'm just curious.
(1) "Exile" Assault Rifle reserved for: Fire of Prometheus
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Scheherazade VII
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:48:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous.
I saw a scout with 500 armour, he stopped firing at me so I thought "surely he's not...?
"is he? he's going to".
he did.
he activated his ******* cloak.
therein lies the problem with scouts. and the fact that they can stack near on 700 armour and probably run faster than a medium suit with no armour. |
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KING CHECKMATE
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:50:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous. Not quite. Having MORE than 2 Complex Precision enhancers on a Cal scout lets you see Even Cloaked Scouts. Sometimes even Profile dampened + cloaked scouts PLUS, HP is not really a factor while being a good scout. Actually if your fighting other scouts who have equal scanning as you HP can matter.
NO ONE, has equal scanning than a CAL SCOUT. and if he does, he is another CAL SCOUT with little HP.
For your info.I run a 220 Armor 87 shield Proto Gallente and do just fine.
Im on my way to CAldari scout proto, this is my fitting:
3cx Precision enhancer 1 cx Shield ext 1 cx Prof Damp 1cx Range amplifier.
So you people remember when i find you hiding even behind boxes , cloaked ,with my 15db scan precision at 54 mts range.....
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
8747
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:50:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous. Blame armor Shield tanking is ONLY viable on the Cal scout lol. The fact that you guys don't know how to shield doesn't mean it's not viable.
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous. Blame armor Shield tanking is ONLY viable on the Cal scout lol. The fact that you guys don't know how to shield doesn't mean it's not viable. I can shield Cal assault recharge delay too low to regen so yea.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:54:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Cat Merc wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous. Blame armor Shield tanking is ONLY viable on the Cal scout lol. The fact that you guys don't know how to shield doesn't mean it's not viable. I can shield Cal assault recharge delay too low to regen so yea. You mean too long right?
Yeah, it needs a reduction but it's still more than viable.
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:05:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Cat Merc wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous. Blame armor Shield tanking is ONLY viable on the Cal scout lol. The fact that you guys don't know how to shield doesn't mean it's not viable. I can shield Cal assault recharge delay too low to regen so yea. You mean too long right? Yeah, it needs a reduction but it's still more than viable. No armor rep buff then 6.25 hp/s if viabke Oh wait...its not either.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:12:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Dexter307 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous. Not quite. Having MORE than 2 Complex Precision enhancers on a Cal scout lets you see Even Cloaked Scouts. Sometimes even Profile dampened + cloaked scouts PLUS, HP is not really a factor while being a good scout. Actually if your fighting other scouts who have equal scanning as you HP can matter. NO ONE, has equal scanning than a CAL SCOUT. and if he does, he is another CAL SCOUT with little HP. For your info.I run a 220 Armor 87 shield Proto Gallente and do just fine. Im on my way to CAldari scout proto, this is my fitting: 3cx Precision enhancer 1 cx Shield ext 1 cx Prof Damp 1cx Range amplifier.So you people remember when i find you hiding even behind boxes , cloaked ,with my 15db scan precision at 54 mts range..... Luckily more people won't do that fit and I won't have to stack profile dampeners ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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KING CHECKMATE
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:19:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Dexter307 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous. Not quite. Having MORE than 2 Complex Precision enhancers on a Cal scout lets you see Even Cloaked Scouts. Sometimes even Profile dampened + cloaked scouts PLUS, HP is not really a factor while being a good scout. Actually if your fighting other scouts who have equal scanning as you HP can matter. NO ONE, has equal scanning than a CAL SCOUT. and if he does, he is another CAL SCOUT with little HP. For your info.I run a 220 Armor 87 shield Proto Gallente and do just fine. Im on my way to CAldari scout proto, this is my fitting: 3cx Precision enhancer 1 cx Shield ext 1 cx Prof Damp 1cx Range amplifier.So you people remember when i find you hiding even behind boxes , cloaked ,with my 15db scan precision at 54 mts range..... Luckily more people won't do that fit and I won't have to stack profile dampeners ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
EXACTLY. Right now True Radar focused scouts are SO rare, and A.Scanners are so bad, that my Gk.0 scout with 2 cx Precision Enhancers detects even cloaked scouts (Except Gal scouts, which i will fix with my new cal scout soon :3).
BUT I WANT MORE.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:49:00 -
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I think he should have a talk with the calogi.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Forlorn Destrier
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:53:00 -
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First, let me just say I don't use a cloaked shotgun scout.
Now that that's out of the way, I find it silly that people complain that other players found a working method of playing the game. You can't beat them? Maybe YOU should "get good". |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.04.21 23:18:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous. Blame armor Shield tanking is ONLY viable on the Cal scout lol. I'm finding it extremely viable on heavy frames
DOn't bother with shield extenders on them- rechargers, regulators, and damage mods are the way to go.
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Happy Jack SD
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.21 23:51:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Blame armor Shield tanking is ONLY viable on the Cal scout lol. I'm finding it extremely viable on heavy frames DOn't bother with shield extenders on them- rechargers, regulators, and damage mods are the way to go. Exactly, shields work once the tank is sufficient. My Cal Commando loves his regulators and energizers ![Cool](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cool.png)
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.21 23:57:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous. Blame armor Shield tanking is ONLY viable on the Cal scout lol. I'm finding it extremely viable on heavy frames DOn't bother with shield extenders on them- rechargers, regulators, and damage mods are the way to go. So basically lose ALL 1vq fights? Energizers reduce your hp to low levels.
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
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Posted - 2014.04.22 00:09:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous.
what, just now? Actually, they've been ridiculous for a long time now, when a single armor module gives double or more protection than a shield module, yet is easier to fit.
SHIELD ARMOR 22 - - - - 85 - - - - basic 33 - - - - 110 - - - - adv 66 - - - - 135 - - - - proto
Plus, a cloak takes up CPU. Proto shield takes MASSIVE CPU. Guess what cloaks need? CPU.
So, it's quite likely that a scout might have to trade use of a shield module, for the cloak.
A reminder that cal scouts start with ludicrously slow stats in both shield and armor. So a single armor module, of ANY level, will give that scout, "more Armour than shield".
Simily, a very sensible fit, of:
1 adv cloak 1 proto shield 2xbasic armor
will again give "more Armor than shield". (heck, probably swapping 2xbasic for 1xproto armor would still give mor armor than shield :p )
Especially if the scout is trying to fit proto cloak on adv suit, he probably wont be able to FIT 2xproto shield. But will most likely easily be able to fit 2xbasic armor, alongside maybe 1 shield. |
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Vargralor
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.22 00:22:00 -
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I run a Cal scout with more armour than shields. I have 130 shields and 180 armour. ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
I have an adv scout suit and I run three adv precision enhances, 1 adv damp and 1 adv armour plate. I tried it with more damping and a shield extender instead of one of the precision mods but the simple fact is that 110 extra armour is far more useful than 33 extra shield with a recharge penalty. Regulators and Energizers are pointless when you cannot survive the initial hit for your shields to recharge. |
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:01:00 -
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Ridire Greine wrote:A Cloaked Cal Scout with a CR, that had more Armour than shield.
a¦á_a¦á - Okay, now things have gotten ridiculous.
If you're not running range amps in your calscout's low slots, you're doing it wrong. |
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