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LT SHANKS wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Bro,the thing is, im pretty sure your Tac net DOESNT COVER 100mts.

Go with my fit:
GÖª 2 Cx Precision enhancers
GÖª 2 Cx Range amplifiers
GÖª 1 Complex Reactive plate
GÖª 1 Cx Profile dampener.

87 shields
220 armor
(More than enough HP)

You are welcome.(in the case there are enemy Cal scouts, go ahead and change one range amplifier for another dampener, still gives you 50+mts scan range.)

AND BS. ITs is very competitive, (and most importantly a scouts true purpose) you just dont know what you can do with R/E when you know every enemy position.
With a Good ACR or SMG you can wreck everything.

SMG/ACR for Med Frames and Scouts
R/E and Grenades for Heavies

I believe you're right regarding the Tac net. However, being able to see red chevrons 100m out is still very useful.

To test this, I stood 100m on the opposite side of the objective of the pipeline map (domination) and was able to see LAVs and enemy reds a little past that distance.

Anyway, I'm surprised that many believe the suit is viable. I'll agree that the fourth range amplifier is a bit unneeded, so I'll most likely slap a Complex Profile Dampener on. There is also enough CPU/PG left over for me to equip a scanner, so I'll be messing around with my Core Focused and Quantum to see which produces the best results.

The Core Focused could help with seeing less dampened Scouts, but the Quantum seems appealling for keeping reds highlighted even longer.

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LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1890	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:31:00 - [1] - Quote I wanted to test the effectiveness of my GalScout's scans, so I equipped 4 Complex Range Amplifiers, 2 Complex Precision Enhancers, and a Cloak Field to stay hidden. Although weak and lacking stealth, the fit had a constant scan of 100m+ in all directions. For once, my passives could easily pick up tanks. Moreover, aside from GalScouts and other profile dampened Scouts, it was seldom that a red dot got under my radar. I played 5 Domination matches with this fit without dying once. This got me thinking of how viable the fit could be in squad play. If I was to do nothing but run around and attempt to avoid all enemies, could my squad benefit without me having to do a single thing? I know it's not a very competitive fit, but it does seem like it could work in pub matches. What do you think?
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1522	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:35:00 - [2] - Quote To all that cries about Cloaks and Scouts and Hello kitties.... Please read the post... Try new and interesting things out... Get out of your Shield/Armor shell, stop yelling at CCP... CCP already gave you the options.. Either chicken out and die or HTFU and use proper modules and ruin someone else's day... LT it's a great fit... You'll live longer, replace 1 RA for Dampener...
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 7052	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:35:00 - [3] - Quote I think the db of Passive Scanners should differ based on how far away the target is, unless said target is in LOS. HAV > Infantry > AV < HAV [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Medical Crash CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 282	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:36:00 - [4] - Quote I think Passives should not be shared with squad, and that only the Scout himself should see scan results. Only Active Scanners should pass intel to squadmates. If Passive scans are shared then it's a bug, and I hope CCP fixes it. And yes it is a bug.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 476	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:37:00 - [5] - Quote Medical Crash wrote: I think Passives should not be shared with squad, and that only the Scout himself should see scan results. Only Active Scanners should pass intel to squadmates. If Passive scans are shared then it's a bug, and I hope CCP fixes it. And yes it is a bug. boo... run some damps Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1523	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:39:00 - [6] - Quote Medical Crash wrote: I think Passives should not be shared with squad, and that only the Scout himself should see scan results. Only Active Scanners should pass intel to squadmates. If Passive scans are shared then it's a bug, and I hope CCP fixes it. And yes it is a bug. Wouldn't make a difference, most squadmates use the MIC properly... But i get the point... Active scanners should be shared...
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1890	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:40:00 - [7] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: Medical Crash wrote: I think Passives should not be shared with squad, and that only the Scout himself should see scan results. Only Active Scanners should pass intel to squadmates. If Passive scans are shared then it's a bug, and I hope CCP fixes it. And yes it is a bug. boo... run some damps Dozers, I think I briefly was in a squad with you about half an hour ago in a Dom match on that pipeline map. Did you notice if my passives were shared with you? If you're not the person, ehh.. Lol?
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 465	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:43:00 - [8] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: What do you think? I think you'd be surprised at how many Scouts you didn't see. Bang?
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 478	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:44:00 - [9] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I wanted to test the effectiveness of my GalScout's scans, so I equipped 4 Complex Range Amplifiers, 2 Complex Precision Enhancers, and a Cloak Field to stay hidden. Although weak and lacking stealth, the fit had a constant scan of 100m+ in all directions. For once, my passives could easily pick up tanks. Moreover, aside from GalScouts and other profile dampened Scouts, it was seldom that a red dot got under my radar. I played 5 Domination matches with this fit without dying once. This got me thinking of how viable the fit could be in squad play. If I was to do nothing but run around and attempt to avoid all enemies, could my squad benefit without me having to do a single thing? I know it's not a very competitive fit, but it does seem like it could work in pub matches. What do you think? it's very effective for squad play I use my cal scout for this type of squad support listen to NAV and put one damp on there to keep the cal scouts off your back when your not cloaked IMO a scouts scans should be shared with the squad but the squadmates should have to be within a certain proximity of the scout with the scans Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4946	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:45:00 - [10] - Quote I run something similar with my Cal scout when I play doms on some maps. I'll only uncloak to snipe someone with my bolt pistol every now and again. I'll sit literally amongst a squad of reds and shoot someone while their backs are turned or hack something after they've walked too far away to make it back in time. Infiltration as a scout is more than feasible now and if played correctly you can put up good scores by generally being annoying. It's a slow methodical playstyle but literally sneaking around avoiding fights is pretty damn fun. You can put up good scores if you work hacking into this playstyle since being a walking scanner doesn't really reward you any points. Passives are shared with your squad. They're sort of unreliable though as they're not perfect like an active scanner would be. Sometimes you don't get the full range. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.

DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 478	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:46:00 - [11] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: Medical Crash wrote: I think Passives should not be shared with squad, and that only the Scout himself should see scan results. Only Active Scanners should pass intel to squadmates. If Passive scans are shared then it's a bug, and I hope CCP fixes it. And yes it is a bug. boo... run some damps Dozers, I think I briefly was in a squad with you about half an hour ago in a Dom match on that pipeline map. Did you notice if my passives were shared with you? If you're not the person, ehh.. Lol? it was me I didn't notice because I was rocking my own passives but I play scout exclusively and I know how important having a proper ewar set up is Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3991	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:50:00 - [12] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I wanted to test the effectiveness of my GalScout's scans, so I equipped 4 Complex Range Amplifiers, 2 Complex Precision Enhancers, and a Cloak Field to stay hidden. Although weak and lacking stealth, the fit had a constant scan of 100m+ in all directions. For once, my passives could easily pick up tanks. Moreover, aside from GalScouts and other profile dampened Scouts, it was seldom that a red dot got under my radar. I played 5 Domination matches with this fit without dying once. This got me thinking of how viable the fit could be in squad play. If I was to do nothing but run around and attempt to avoid all enemies, could my squad benefit without me having to do a single thing? I know it's not a very competitive fit, but it does seem like it could work in pub matches. What do you think? With the exception of the precision, you can acheive something similar rolling around the map with two scanners on a Saga. It's cheaper, tougher and you'll get WP from it too. No.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 478	Posted - 2014.04.21 18:52:00 - [13] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: I wanted to test the effectiveness of my GalScout's scans, so I equipped 4 Complex Range Amplifiers, 2 Complex Precision Enhancers, and a Cloak Field to stay hidden. Although weak and lacking stealth, the fit had a constant scan of 100m+ in all directions. For once, my passives could easily pick up tanks. Moreover, aside from GalScouts and other profile dampened Scouts, it was seldom that a red dot got under my radar. I played 5 Domination matches with this fit without dying once. This got me thinking of how viable the fit could be in squad play. If I was to do nothing but run around and attempt to avoid all enemies, could my squad benefit without me having to do a single thing? I know it's not a very competitive fit, but it does seem like it could work in pub matches. What do you think? With the exception of the precision, you can acheive something similar rolling around the map with two scanners on a Saga. It's cheaper, tougher and you'll get WP from it too. and get a rail turret up your ass Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 689	Posted - 2014.04.21 22:02:00 - [14] - Quote If you can fit an active scanner in the other equipment slot then you might be able to earn some extra WP. Use your passives to determine where most of the reds are then use the scanner to further highlight them for your squad to kill. I have been considering skilling into scanners as some of the Ambush maps are so big that it can take a while just finding the reds unless both teams are spawned next to each other.
KING CHECKMATE Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 5169	Posted - 2014.04.21 22:09:00 - [15] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I wanted to test the effectiveness of my GalScout's scans, so I equipped 4 Complex Range Amplifiers, 2 Complex Precision Enhancers, and a Cloak Field to stay hidden. Although weak and lacking stealth, the fit had a constant scan of 100m+ in all directions. For once, my passives could easily pick up tanks. Moreover, aside from GalScouts and other profile dampened Scouts, it was seldom that a red dot got under my radar. I played 5 Domination matches with this fit without dying once. This got me thinking of how viable the fit could be in squad play. If I was to do nothing but run around and attempt to avoid all enemies, could my squad benefit without me having to do a single thing? I know it's not a very competitive fit, but it does seem like it could work in pub matches. What do you think? Bro,the thing is, im pretty sure your Tac net DOESNT COVER 100mts. Go with my fit: GÖª 2 Cx Precision enhancers GÖª 2 Cx Range amplifiers GÖª 1 Complex Reactive plate GÖª 1 Cx Profile dampener. 87 shields 220 armor (More than enough HP) You are welcome.(in the case there are enemy Cal scouts, go ahead and change one range amplifier for another dampener, still gives you 50+mts scan range.) AND BS. ITs is very competitive, (and most importantly a scouts true purpose) you just dont know what you can do with R/E when you know every enemy position. With a Good ACR or SMG you can wreck everything. SMG/ACR for Med Frames and Scouts R/E and Grenades for Heavies Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Crazy Cat Lady Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 123	Posted - 2014.04.21 22:26:00 - [16] - Quote 1.8 has made scanning red dots more difficult than ever: Scouts everywhere, cloaks and active scanners nerfed. Using a 'passive scanning scout' like this a great strategic move. Unfortunately unless you put an active scanner on this fit you wont get the WP you deserve for how valuable this actually is for the rest of your squad. If you run this simply to support your squad then u deserve a massive high five for being a team player!!
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3996	Posted - 2014.04.21 22:52:00 - [17] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: I wanted to test the effectiveness of my GalScout's scans, so I equipped 4 Complex Range Amplifiers, 2 Complex Precision Enhancers, and a Cloak Field to stay hidden. Although weak and lacking stealth, the fit had a constant scan of 100m+ in all directions. For once, my passives could easily pick up tanks. Moreover, aside from GalScouts and other profile dampened Scouts, it was seldom that a red dot got under my radar. I played 5 Domination matches with this fit without dying once. This got me thinking of how viable the fit could be in squad play. If I was to do nothing but run around and attempt to avoid all enemies, could my squad benefit without me having to do a single thing? I know it's not a very competitive fit, but it does seem like it could work in pub matches. What do you think? With the exception of the precision, you can acheive something similar rolling around the map with two scanners on a Saga. It's cheaper, tougher and you'll get WP from it too. and get a rail turret up your ass Unless it's damage modded, a Saga will survive a rail shot and the scanners leave enough fitting space for a light rep. If the tanker can hit you twice then you either screwed up, or they pulled off a crack shot. No.
Rusty Shallows 1616	Posted - 2014.04.21 22:57:00 - [18] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I wanted to test the effectiveness of my GalScout's scans, so I equipped 4 Complex Range Amplifiers, 2 Complex Precision Enhancers, and a Cloak Field to stay hidden. Although weak and lacking stealth, the fit had a constant scan of 100m+ in all directions. For once, my passives could easily pick up tanks. Moreover, aside from GalScouts and other profile dampened Scouts, it was seldom that a red dot got under my radar. I played 5 Domination matches with this fit without dying once. This got me thinking of how viable the fit could be in squad play. If I was to do nothing but run around and attempt to avoid all enemies, could my squad benefit without me having to do a single thing? I know it's not a very competitive fit, but it does seem like it could work in pub matches. What do you think? Throw on an Active Scanner and giggle with each +15 Intel-Kill-Assist you get. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Yan Darn Science For Death 629	Posted - 2014.04.21 23:14:00 - [19] - Quote I've been a trying something very similar myself, except that one of my lows has a comp damp - it's a great fit to counter all the scouts (especially Caldari light assaults) and at even 75m you can spot enemies to evade their effective weapon ranges. However, you absolutely have to avoid enemies firing at you, even a few stray shots and its all all over. This makes target selection crucial, because base speed is all you have from escaping a bad encounter. I spend time much avoiding enemies as much as hunting them (safe in the knowledge these were encounters I probably would have lost anyway). I can't run shotgun with this fit - those brief seconds of fire even one person can lay out if you need more than one shot will end me, so it isn't hugely survivable. It's the first fit that makes me consider using proto - though that is partly because it highlights a problems with ewar in general. I have to at least run ADV now because there is no way to compensate for the lack of a second comp precison enhancer. It's not like forgoing a second shield extender or damage mod etc. Still, using a duvolle over a toxin AR is actually worth it now, since targets have to go down ASAP or I die. Adipem Nothi wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: What do you think? I think you'd be surprised at how many Scouts you didn't see. This is true, but now I've seen the battlefield this way, there is no way I can go back. Well, until im tired of running away from fights and dying from stray bullets. It really all depends on how reliable passive scan sharing is. The Ghost of Bravo
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1024	Posted - 2014.04.22 00:02:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: I think the db of Passive Scanners should differ based on how far away the target is, unless said target is in LOS. This. Simple on/off detection (within range) is just plain silly. Came back to Dust from a break and what did I find? Cloakies with absolute invisibility which works in all situations.=(

lampwizard Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.04.22 00:42:00 - [21] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: Simple on/off detection (within range) is just plain silly. The passive scanners are probably relatively basic due to considerations of server load or algorithm complexity.
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1361	Posted - 2014.04.22 00:48:00 - [22] - Quote That fourth range mod can easily be done without. 95m with 3, 107m with 4, not worth it in my opinion. Sorry, don't mean to knock your fitting. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1891	Posted - 2014.04.22 03:56:00 - [23] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Bro,the thing is, im pretty sure your Tac net DOESNT COVER 100mts. Go with my fit: GÖª 2 Cx Precision enhancers GÖª 2 Cx Range amplifiers GÖª 1 Complex Reactive plate GÖª 1 Cx Profile dampener. 87 shields 220 armor (More than enough HP) You are welcome.(in the case there are enemy Cal scouts, go ahead and change one range amplifier for another dampener, still gives you 50+mts scan range.) AND BS. ITs is very competitive, (and most importantly a scouts true purpose) you just dont know what you can do with R/E when you know every enemy position. With a Good ACR or SMG you can wreck everything. SMG/ACR for Med Frames and Scouts R/E and Grenades for Heavies I believe you're right regarding the Tac net. However, being able to see red chevrons 100m out is still very useful. To test this, I stood 100m on the opposite side of the objective of the pipeline map (domination) and was able to see LAVs and enemy reds a little past that distance. Anyway, I'm surprised that many believe the suit is viable. I'll agree that the fourth range amplifier is a bit unneeded, so I'll most likely slap a Complex Profile Dampener on. There is also enough CPU/PG left over for me to equip a scanner, so I'll be messing around with my Core Focused and Quantum to see which produces the best results. The Core Focused could help with seeing less dampened Scouts, but the Quantum seems appealling for keeping reds highlighted even longer.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 482	Posted - 2014.04.22 04:04:00 - [24] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Bro,the thing is, im pretty sure your Tac net DOESNT COVER 100mts. Go with my fit: GÖª 2 Cx Precision enhancers GÖª 2 Cx Range amplifiers GÖª 1 Complex Reactive plate GÖª 1 Cx Profile dampener. 87 shields 220 armor (More than enough HP) You are welcome.(in the case there are enemy Cal scouts, go ahead and change one range amplifier for another dampener, still gives you 50+mts scan range.) AND BS. ITs is very competitive, (and most importantly a scouts true purpose) you just dont know what you can do with R/E when you know every enemy position. With a Good ACR or SMG you can wreck everything. SMG/ACR for Med Frames and Scouts R/E and Grenades for Heavies I believe you're right regarding the Tac net. However, being able to see red chevrons 100m out is still very useful. To test this, I stood 100m on the opposite side of the objective of the pipeline map (domination) and was able to see LAVs and enemy reds a little past that distance. Anyway, I'm surprised that many believe the suit is viable. I'll agree that the fourth range amplifier is a bit unneeded, so I'll most likely slap a Complex Profile Dampener on. There is also enough CPU/PG left over for me to equip a scanner, so I'll be messing around with my Core Focused and Quantum to see which produces the best results. The Core Focused could help with seeing less dampened Scouts, but the Quantum seems appealling for keeping reds highlighted even longer. IMO your much better off with those enhancers just play around with your range and see whats besr for you Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
KING CHECKMATE Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 5183	Posted - 2014.04.22 04:10:00 - [25] - Quote @ LT SHANKS you said: '' being able to see red chevrons 100m out is still very useful.'' While this is VERY true ( i had also tried the Range Amp abuse XD), it is useful ; but so is having dampening + the ability to survive a Burst from a Proto CR XD + Some enhanced armor repairing,. Plus its useful but gal scouts as yourself will make your radar useless with 2 cx Profile dampeners. This means you have 6 slots used for radar useless. While they have only used 2 for dampening and other 4 that will give them an advantage over you,being speed or EHP or Stamina,etc... Again ,my fit has easily over 70mts radar range. 2 cx range amps plus the natural Gal bonus is almost overkill as it is. but thanks for taking your time and reading my post. Glad you like Radar based scouts too. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
SPACE SYPHILIS Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2014.04.22 04:42:00 - [26] - Quote I tried what you did in the past and you are on to something. You are correct when it comes to being fragile, so I added 1 kin for boost and 1 dampener to hide. I can see using this as a mobile scanner and hunting snipers in the red line.
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 1172	Posted - 2014.04.22 04:53:00 - [27] - Quote I tried the same thing with my Min scout. Got 75m scan with 21.1dB precision and now that's my goto fit for team play I don't get much points for it but it really helps the others. Its not even that bad compared to the other big contenders. Kinda middle ground between the two. And its nice to have some decent equipment for once. "...and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death."
Charlotte O'Dell Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 2425	Posted - 2014.04.22 05:14:00 - [28] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I wanted to test the effectiveness of my GalScout's scans, so I equipped 4 Complex Range Amplifiers, 2 Complex Precision Enhancers, and a Cloak Field to stay hidden. Although weak and lacking stealth, the fit had a constant scan of 100m+ in all directions. For once, my passives could easily pick up tanks. Moreover, aside from GalScouts and other profile dampened Scouts, it was seldom that a red dot got under my radar. I played 5 Domination matches with this fit without dying once. This got me thinking of how viable the fit could be in squad play. If I was to do nothing but run around and attempt to avoid all enemies, could my squad benefit without me having to do a single thing? I know it's not a very competitive fit, but it does seem like it could work in pub matches. What do you think? You've clearly never seen the Cal Scout/ Gal Sent/ Min Logi combo yet. It is absolutely untouchable. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2925	Posted - 2014.04.22 12:31:00 - [29] - Quote Lame wrong thread sory o7 Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Templar Code Giveway - Propaganda Competition Gÿ£GÿàGÿP


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