DUST Search - Why everyone hates DUST 514?

Odigos Ellinas wrote:

GLOBAL RAGE wrote:

Odigos Ellinas wrote:

GLOBAL RAGE wrote:

FPS players want 75ms latency at the most and 60 frames at least.

DUST514 is no where near, actually in another galaxy, accomplishing anything close to a competitive shooter. In fact it favors players with sshity internet connections.

CCP needs to wake up and then tighten up it's netcode, and stop carrying the "free riders".

CCP needs to realize that players with high KDR are more than very likely laggers that are ruining everyone's playtime.

CCP needs more than 3 regions, and players should not be allowed to cross regions.

Alliances and corporations should not be allowed to be constituted from cross regional assets.

MMO-RPG elements should be nerfed, until true non-FPS roles and activities are added.

man you are in the wrong game.
One universe, one love, no borders!!!

would you make 20 jumps in EVE in order to play one 15 minute match? and then make 40 jumps back in the opposite direction for the next?

treat routers a EVE GATES and my opinion is valid.

would a RL corp such as XE, move their assets around? NO-too expensive and way too dangerous.

One universe-NOT, only 32 players in the last match.
one love-NOT, the majority of DUST MERCS don't give a hoot at this juncture we just want a working game.
No borders? my PS3..lol

Finally CCP's efforts, in strict regards to lag determination, are an abject failure; because, it can not be done.

there, this Easter I suffered a fool.

20-40 jumps if want to do it yes i can NO ESTRICTIONS. Should it be the same hard to travel through the galaxy in dust yes. I have seen a lot of corps moving there assets around. 0.0 is a hard place to settle you have always a escape plan.

But what has that to do with your crazy as CoD/BF/halo view of game?
You are in the wrong game man can't say it enough.

All empires fall. We'll be watching, we'll be waiting, we'll be that spark that starts the fires of doom.

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Tectonic Fusion 1515	Posted - 2014.04.21 01:06:00 - [31] - Quote It takes a certain mindset to truly enjoy the game. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 160	Posted - 2014.04.21 01:22:00 - [32] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: If a time traveler came back to me as I was playing Lazy Jones on my Commodore 64 and said, "kid, in 20 years time there will be a spaceship industry MMO, a console shooter and potentially a VR dog fighting game tied into one universe." I'd have smashed him to death with the keyboard. Who else is doing that? You won't find another cross genre/cross platform sci-fi IP out there like EVE. Maybe it's because I can appreciate the innovative and pioneering nature of the project that I don't prance around like the band wagon haters in here. If you want a fully fleshed out FPS with balance and multi game modes **** off and go play the latest yearly installment of Modern Call of War Fighter Field Fall. I seriously feel sorry for anyone who plays this game and is bitter, thinks the game sucks or allows it to fill them with rage (the likes I've seen here and on the mic from randoms) etc. And I don't mean that sarcastically, I do. I'd never associate myself willingly to anything that makes me feel that way but it seems people are enslaved to the monetary and/or time investment and can't walk away. I'll be gone the day that I feel even a fraction of what some of the butt devastated here feel. I'm glad to have been here for the last 2 years and to watch the game grow. I like playing through the ups and downs of development and watching it grow. I'm glad I can appreciate it for what it is and keep my expectations in check...and I'm glad I'm not the kind of person that stays on a forum bitching and moaning just to try and justify their decision to not play/hate the game and/or to troll cause that's probably one of the saddest behaviors. 1.8 is awesome, Minmatar are awesome and I can't wait to see what FF brings. oh my god. Someone who shares my view point. Will you marry me?
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 337	Posted - 2014.04.21 01:26:00 - [33] - Quote I think most of the bad feelings towards Dust come from CCP way over hyping the game and were not able to deliver. I am sure any potential reviewers that could say something good are quickly run off by our excuse for NPE.
Finn Colman Immortal Guides 7	Posted - 2014.04.21 01:26:00 - [34] - Quote GLOBAL RAGE wrote: FPS players want 75ms latency at the most and 60 frames at least. DUST514 is no where near, actually in another galaxy, accomplishing anything close to a competitive shooter. In fact it favors players with sshity internet connections. CCP needs to wake up and then tighten up it's netcode, and stop carrying the "free riders". CCP needs to realize that players with high KDR are more than very likely laggers that are ruining everyone's playtime. CCP needs more than 3 regions, and players should not be allowed to cross regions. Alliances and corporations should not be allowed to be constituted from cross regional assets. MMO-RPG elements should be nerfed, until true non-FPS roles and activities are added, for example RACE+RACIAL SUIT+RACIAL WEAPONS=100% efficiency and play style balance. Is this lag I keep hearing about really a thing? or is it just a bunch of bad workmen blaming their tools? or is my PS3 just magical? I've always had a nice smooth experience with DUST.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 817	Posted - 2014.04.21 01:43:00 - [35] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: I have to agree with McBob. Outsiders who give the game **** are mostly jealous cause they can't play it, LOL!
Sarcastic Dreamkiller BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 96	Posted - 2014.04.21 01:50:00 - [36] - Quote Question: How did any of the WoD supporters know that it would come out any better than Dust? and why would they think that in the first place?
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 157	Posted - 2014.04.21 01:53:00 - [37] - Quote im burnt out. it used to be that when you got tired of your main you could create an alt and mess around in the academy for a while. now you get one match and you are back to playing the same people. We need variety, we need actual marketing for this game. And for this game to really survive we need a reason for new people to stay. All empires fall. We'll be watching, we'll be waiting, we'll be that spark that starts the fires of doom.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 157	Posted - 2014.04.21 01:56:00 - [38] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: When I got interested in this game, I kept my expectations to a healthy minimum. I asked myself, if I thought CCP: 1) Had the experience in handling fast-paced competitive FPS action? 2) Could they compete in that field against established franchises? 3) Who does CCP remind me more of: Newell or Molyneaux? But, despite those, the idea of the Dust/Eve link and the often quoted "one universa; one war", and CCP's commitment to continuous development spanning years, truly inspired me to give this game a chance. Not everyone has that mindset about playing a game. Some people will see it in the PSN and download it because it is free, they dont expect much but they dont expect there to be the sh*tty experience that there is today All empires fall. We'll be watching, we'll be waiting, we'll be that spark that starts the fires of doom.
nukel head Knights of No Republic 108	Posted - 2014.04.21 01:58:00 - [39] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: People who rage on Dust are the same type of player that rage on EVE. They try the game out a few times. Realize it is too hard compared to the ezmode games they are used to. Then they give up, refuse to admit they are terrible at hard games, and then just bash EVE/Dust claiming they "suck." It's not as much the game as much as it is the majority of the other players they encounter in EVE/Dust. The game becomes more ezmode the longer you hang around. It's so easy to stomp all over a new player that is just starting out, mock them for not knowing everything about the game, and insult them for not giving two sh*ts about the elitist entitlement. From their perspective there are much better games out there and they go away. Thats why Dust has a insignificant player base despite the fact its only competition is battlefield.
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 147	Posted - 2014.04.21 03:22:00 - [40] - Quote 1.4- dude you gotta try dust 1.5- o looking for a new fps? Look up dust514 its neat 1.6- dust is a good game 1.7- dont bother playing dust 1.8- dark souls is easier to get into and ik how much you loved dark souls dude...especially when you went to normal instead of easy -holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro

Baltazar Pontain Phantom Universe Task Force Die Fremdenlegion 128	Posted - 2014.04.21 03:36:00 - [41] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: I read some comments about WoD canceling. And found that every single of them who mentions DUST, says it was a failure, a bad idea, the reason why WoD were canceled. And not a SINGLE comment who tried to defend DUST. Why so? Do you agree with them? I was very surprised, how outsiders think about DUST 514 http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/read/30775/World-of-Darkness-Development-Stops-50-Atlanta-Studio-Employees-Released.html/utm_campaign/MMORPG%20Newsletter/utm_source/MMORPG/utm_medium/email/eatrack/%5B%7Cemail%7C%5D,7 go to the botom to reveal all comments, and press CTR+F and write DUST P.S. this is discusion about DUST 514 reputation, and not WoD canceling. If yuo want to discus about it, go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155562&find=unread or https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=337022&find=unread Oh sweety, no one hates Dust514. But a lot of ppl thing that CCP made a lot of mistakes when it comes to Dust514. Why do people feel the urge to "defend" a game? sigh It is a game. It has fun sides. It has dull sides. Face them. Name them. Argue realistic about them but please do not "defend" the game. Please no fanboys. They are as bad as haters.
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 93	Posted - 2014.04.21 03:46:00 - [42] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Odigos Ellinas wrote: The only reason i hang around is a promise for a better future. And its pretty much the best F2P FPS on ps3. Just about best FPS period on ps3. The battlefield franchise is Dust's rival for this. Battlefield is no where close to Dust. If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2014.04.21 04:04:00 - [43] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Odigos Ellinas wrote: The only reason i hang around is a promise for a better future. And its pretty much the best F2P FPS on ps3. Just about best FPS period on ps3. The battlefield franchise is Dust's rival for this. Battlefield is no where close to Dust. There's a difference between calling Dust or Battlefield "best FPS game on the PS3" and saying "after the ending of other games, these are your default options". I thought Resistance 2 had a better FPS game as well as MAG with both simply lacking more maps overall. As other posts have pointed out the "barrier to entry" for Dust is such a vaunting one that it pretty much has nothing in the way of inviting new players to stick around. And I think overall while the majority of the community recognizes this fact, we like to toss up words like "better skills" or something that makes us supremely confident when in fact its not always about skills but often times the ability to just proto~stomp a superior skilled player. I also think the problem of content isn't an issue for CCP, rather it's released how much content in one year about that it has no real base mechanics that lend the game stability; level up something with your skill points but there's no guarantee it won't be killed by a future CCP update. That's not how to do things I feel and sweeping changes in the game can only hurt more the playerbase than attract players. I think Dust is a unique game with mechanics you don't see elsewhere but that's kind of it really. We can hold our breadth for a better future but that rarely happens in games and the last studio to really think about a major overhaul of a game in general was failed launch of FF14. I don't think Dust had anywhere as bad as a start as that game but when you keep the same people on the same tasks you rarely get a different direction and input on the game that they sorely need. For all I know they may end up making a "light saber" for the game to replace Nova Knives or add a heli-vehicle. That's the problem with this game is that the priorities seem backwards and they seem to keep taking bad steps for the sake of novelty versus stability and fanfare.
Orin the Freak The Solecism of Limitation 795	Posted - 2014.04.21 04:49:00 - [44] - Quote Hate is the wrong terminology. If I (or anyone AFAIK) truly hated this game, they wouldn't play it. I think I speak for more than just myself when I say I play for the hopes that some day in the future, this game will grow to be a huge player in the direction EVE goes. There is tons of potential that has, as of yet, gone almost completely untapped. If I'm wrong, at least I got to spend a few years getting to know some cool people, and playing a mediocre game with said cool people. but if I'm right... in a few years time, we'll be playing one of the best MMOFPS games on the market, with such depth and complexity, it's worthy of the name EVE and company CCP. CCP has the opportunity to make something grand. They just have to step up their game, put more people on this game, and show us they are serious about delivering a solid product. I think if they could just make the maps more interesting (a lot more clutter, more scenery.. trees, lakes, cities, nature.. etc. Make the maps more forest moon Endor than Tatooine/Hoth) it would seem like an entirely different game! Whatever. There I go diving off into Hopeville, population: all of us who still play dust faithfully in the hopes that one day our countless hours grinding SP/ISK will pay off.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1596	Posted - 2014.04.21 04:58:00 - [45] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: I read some comments about WoD canceling. And found that every single of them who mentions DUST, says it was a failure, a bad idea, the reason why WoD were canceled. And not a SINGLE comment who tried to defend DUST. Why so? Do you agree with them? I was very surprised, how outsiders think about DUST 514 http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/read/30775/World-of-Darkness-Development-Stops-50-Atlanta-Studio-Employees-Released.html/utm_campaign/MMORPG%20Newsletter/utm_source/MMORPG/utm_medium/email/eatrack/%5B%7Cemail%7C%5D,7 go to the botom to reveal all comments, and press CTR+F and write DUST P.S. this is discusion about DUST 514 reputation, and not WoD canceling. If yuo want to discus about it, go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155562&find=unread or https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=337022&find=unread Pauses from looking at the new Planetside 2 UI With all due respect but are you mental?? Hey WOD players what do you think of your WODgame being cancelled due to DUST 514?? Insert generic WOD player comment on how they blame Dust 514 and how they are upset at Dust 514 since WOD got cancelled. I.e. hey MAG players how do you feel about SOCUM being to blame for MAG being terminated? Goes back to looking at Planetside 2 UI. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
veccer EL Azteca Empire Amenaza Inminente 7	Posted - 2014.04.21 05:34:00 - [46] - Quote Odigos Ellinas wrote: The only reason i hang around is a promise for a better future. And its pretty much the best F2P FPS on ps3. This is the only F2P shooter for PS3 xD
dalt ud Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 600	Posted - 2014.04.21 06:45:00 - [47] - Quote veccer wrote: Odigos Ellinas wrote: The only reason i hang around is a promise for a better future. And its pretty much the best F2P FPS on ps3. This is the only F2P shooter for PS3 xD Dust514 is no shooter since uprising. Its just piece of crap.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 157	Posted - 2014.04.21 06:57:00 - [48] - Quote Odigos Ellinas wrote: GLOBAL RAGE wrote: Odigos Ellinas wrote: GLOBAL RAGE wrote: FPS players want 75ms latency at the most and 60 frames at least. DUST514 is no where near, actually in another galaxy, accomplishing anything close to a competitive shooter. In fact it favors players with sshity internet connections. CCP needs to wake up and then tighten up it's netcode, and stop carrying the "free riders". CCP needs to realize that players with high KDR are more than very likely laggers that are ruining everyone's playtime. CCP needs more than 3 regions, and players should not be allowed to cross regions. Alliances and corporations should not be allowed to be constituted from cross regional assets. MMO-RPG elements should be nerfed, until true non-FPS roles and activities are added. man you are in the wrong game. One universe, one love, no borders!!! would you make 20 jumps in EVE in order to play one 15 minute match? and then make 40 jumps back in the opposite direction for the next? treat routers a EVE GATES and my opinion is valid. would a RL corp such as XE, move their assets around? NO-too expensive and way too dangerous. One universe-NOT, only 32 players in the last match. one love-NOT, the majority of DUST MERCS don't give a hoot at this juncture we just want a working game. No borders? my PS3..lol Finally CCP's efforts, in strict regards to lag determination, are an abject failure; because, it can not be done. there, this Easter I suffered a fool. 20-40 jumps if want to do it yes i can NO ESTRICTIONS. Should it be the same hard to travel through the galaxy in dust yes. I have seen a lot of corps moving there assets around. 0.0 is a hard place to settle you have always a escape plan. But what has that to do with your crazy as CoD/BF/halo view of game? You are in the wrong game man can't say it enough. The only people here in the wrong game are those whose internet situations dont allow them to play other online titles. Dust should have the same restictions All empires fall. We'll be watching, we'll be waiting, we'll be that spark that starts the fires of doom.
DeeJay One Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 260	Posted - 2014.04.21 07:05:00 - [49] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: this game is a joke. ccp in their arrogance tried to make an fps and promised us an awesome experience...they didn't know crap about making an fps though and yet somehow still act like their shite doesn't stink. you know I take it back this game isn't a joke, ccp is the joke. this game is the punchline. Yet, you're still here...
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1596	Posted - 2014.04.21 11:59:00 - [50] - Quote DeeJay One wrote: Seymor Krelborn wrote: this game is a joke. ccp in their arrogance tried to make an fps and promised us an awesome experience...they didn't know crap about making an fps though and yet somehow still act like their shite doesn't stink. you know I take it back this game isn't a joke, ccp is the joke. this game is the punchline. Yet, you're still here... Pauses from replaying Fallout 3. Since when is a one minute forum post equal to playing dust 514 for hours on end?? Dust 514 fanboys...lol. Continues replaying Fallout 3. Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1824	Posted - 2014.04.21 12:20:00 - [51] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Pauses from replaying Fallout 3. Since when is a one minute forum post equal to playing dust 514 for hours on end?? Dust 514 fanboys...lol. Continues replaying Fallout 3. Pauses from playing Dust. Some folks troll AAA game forums for "teh lawls", but Dust 514 doesn't have a massive community to troll. The small community it does have aren't fanboys. In fact, this community has to be least devoted forum community I have ever seen, and I frequented the SW:TOR forums at one time. You must be here for some other reason... you might see potential in Dust, maybe you enjoy one specific game mode (E.g. FW, PC, etc.). I don't know, but one thing is clear: Dust is attractive to you somehow. TL;DR - You're here because you (secretly) love Dust. Continues playing Dust. Pauses from playing Dust to consider how silly the practice of beginning then ending posts with "Pauses from playing X" then "Continues playing X" is. Continues playing Dust, content with life and killing redberries. Pauses from playing Dust to take his turn on Civ V. Continues playing Dust. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 818	Posted - 2014.04.21 12:52:00 - [52] - Quote you like dust, then play dust. you don't like dust, then don't play dust. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. some folks like games that devote a lot of time and have the whole mmorpg elements that dust has and others do not. skill has nothing to do with it as I have seen scrubs with loads of hp on their armor and shields win fights in dust, then they go into other games where everyone has the same health points to start and they get owned. at the same time, i have also seen some of those folks that do well in dust, go into other games and do just fine. quit making excuses as to why folks either like the game or do not like the game. to each his or her own and stop complaining. as i said above, if you like dust, then go play it, if you do not, then don't play it. period. it is that simple. yes the grammar and spelling may suck this morning, but i am busy with work today and simply do not care about what my post looks like on a video game forum.
dalt ud Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 601	Posted - 2014.04.21 13:12:00 - [53] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: you like dust, then play dust. you don't like dust, then don't play dust. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We will see how you will talk about "don't play dust" when CCP will make changes, and that changes make game unplayable for you (i mean all people with that opinion "play/dont play") i guess there will a lot of tears
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 791	Posted - 2014.04.21 13:19:00 - [54] - Quote dalt ud wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: you like dust, then play dust. you don't like dust, then don't play dust. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We will see how you will talk about "don't play dust" when CCP will make changes, and that changes make game unplayable for you (i mean all people with that opinion "play/dont play") i guess there will a lot of tears Including yours Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1668	Posted - 2014.04.21 13:30:00 - [55] - Quote Because people just aren't satisfied with Dust. Give it a year or two, hopefully , and it will be of the quality that makes people say: "Oh, Dust? I love that game!" The only thing I'll find bittersweet about it becoming good is that when players come back or new players come in, they'll think they own the place. They weren't with us when we were fighting to take this to another level. We can't deny them but damn...I can only imagine the schism going down. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 92	Posted - 2014.04.21 13:49:00 - [56] - Quote Finn Colman wrote: GLOBAL RAGE wrote: FPS players want 75ms latency at the most and 60 frames at least. DUST514 is no where near, actually in another galaxy, accomplishing anything close to a competitive shooter. In fact it favors players with sshity internet connections. CCP needs to wake up and then tighten up it's netcode, and stop carrying the "free riders". CCP needs to realize that players with high KDR are more than very likely laggers that are ruining everyone's playtime. CCP needs more than 3 regions, and players should not be allowed to cross regions. Alliances and corporations should not be allowed to be constituted from cross regional assets. MMO-RPG elements should be nerfed, until true non-FPS roles and activities are added, for example RACE+RACIAL SUIT+RACIAL WEAPONS=100% efficiency and play style balance. Is this lag I keep hearing about really a thing? or is it just a bunch of bad workmen blaming their tools? or is my PS3 just magical? I've always had a nice smooth experience with DUST. Usually it's people who spent $12 on their entire network, don't know **** about configuring anything beyond DHCP, and are running their PS3 wirelessly from 200 feet away from their WAP.... which is wrapped in aluminum foil... in a steel box... in the basement... and it's CCP's fault. Like you, I almost NEVER run into lag. Sure, maybe once a week I'll get a match with some lag but I haven't had an unplayable game in months.
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 92	Posted - 2014.04.21 13:51:00 - [57] - Quote dalt ud wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: you like dust, then play dust. you don't like dust, then don't play dust. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We will see how you will talk about "don't play dust" when CCP will make changes, and that changes make game unplayable for you (i mean all people with that opinion "play/dont play") i guess there will a lot of tears what change has made the game "unplayable"? or are you talking about your narrow playstyle being changed and it mad you sad?
The Attorney General 2652	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:02:00 - [58] - Quote RayRay James wrote: what change has made the game "unplayable"? or are you talking about your narrow playstyle being changed and it mad you sad? Speed hackers, FG users, passive ewar runners, and speed tankers are all deeply affected by the skills bug. Maybe unplayable is stretching it, but you being derisive of people who might have legitimate complaints makes you look like yet another CCP fluffer. This game has big problems, and there is no need for you to feign ignorance at the subject. Well, unless you like looking like a tool. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 818	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:03:00 - [59] - Quote dalt ud wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: you like dust, then play dust. you don't like dust, then don't play dust. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We will see how you will talk about "don't play dust" when CCP will make changes, and that changes make game unplayable for you (i mean all people with that opinion "play/dont play") i guess there will a lot of tears LMAO! I already don't play dust anymore. As a result, I no longer complain about it.
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 93	Posted - 2014.04.21 14:15:00 - [60] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: RayRay James wrote: what change has made the game "unplayable"? or are you talking about your narrow playstyle being changed and it mad you sad? Speed hackers, FG users, passive ewar runners, and speed tankers are all deeply affected by the skills bug. Maybe unplayable is stretching it, but you being derisive of people who might have legitimate complaints makes you look like yet another CCP fluffer. This game has big problems, and there is no need for you to feign ignorance at the subject. Well, unless you like looking like a tool. You think that I happen to have some special suits that aren't effected by the skill problem? My proto forges would like to speak with you. Same with my pro-ewar, and scout suits. It's not unplayable. It's a level playing field for the first few minutes of the match. Yes, it's annoying, but it's far from unplayable. I wasn't "feigning ignorance". I definitely didn't drop to my knees at the altar of CCP, the problems are not world ending, life changing issues. They're annoying.



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