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COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote:

If a time traveler came back to me as I was playing Lazy Jones on my Commodore 64 and said, "kid, in 20 years time there will be a spaceship industry MMO, a console shooter and potentially a VR dog fighting game tied into one universe." I'd have smashed him to death with the keyboard.

Who else is doing that? You won't find another cross genre/cross platform sci-fi IP out there like EVE. Maybe it's because I can appreciate the innovative and pioneering nature of the project that I don't prance around like the band wagon haters in here. If you want a fully fleshed out FPS with balance and multi game modes **** off and go play the latest yearly installment of Modern Call of War Fighter Field Fall.

I seriously feel sorry for anyone who plays this game and is bitter, thinks the game sucks or allows it to fill them with rage (the likes I've seen here and on the mic from randoms) etc. And I don't mean that sarcastically, I do. I'd never associate myself willingly to anything that makes me feel that way but it seems people are enslaved to the monetary and/or time investment and can't walk away. I'll be gone the day that I feel even a fraction of what some of the butt devastated here feel.

I'm glad to have been here for the last 2 years and to watch the game grow. I like playing through the ups and downs of development and watching it grow. I'm glad I can appreciate it for what it is and keep my expectations in check...and I'm glad I'm not the kind of person that stays on a forum bitching and moaning just to try and justify their decision to not play/hate the game and/or to troll cause that's probably one of the saddest behaviors.

1.8 is awesome, Minmatar are awesome and I can't wait to see what FF brings. Twisted

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Kovinis Sparagas Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 204	Posted - 2014.04.20 17:24:00 - [1] - Quote I read some comments about WoD canceling. And found that every single of them who mentions DUST, says it was a failure, a bad idea, the reason why WoD were canceled. And not a SINGLE comment who tried to defend DUST. Why so? Do you agree with them? I was very surprised, how outsiders think about DUST 514 http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/read/30775/World-of-Darkness-Development-Stops-50-Atlanta-Studio-Employees-Released.html/utm_campaign/MMORPG%20Newsletter/utm_source/MMORPG/utm_medium/email/eatrack/%5B%7Cemail%7C%5D,7 go to the botom to reveal all comments, and press CTR+F and write DUST P.S. this is discusion about DUST 514 reputation, and not WoD canceling. If yuo want to discus about it, go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155562&find=unread or https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=337022&find=unread I support BPO removal; RDV to take your vehicles back; and racial weapons on starter fits
Alex-P-Keaton Kramer Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2014.04.20 17:27:00 - [2] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: I read some comments about WoD canceling. And found that every single of them who mentions DUST, says it was a failure, a bad idea, the reason why WoD were canceled. And not a SINGLE comment who tried to defend DUST. Why so? Do you agree with them? I was very surprised, how outsiders think about DUST 514 http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/read/30775/World-of-Darkness-Development-Stops-50-Atlanta-Studio-Employees-Released.html/utm_campaign/MMORPG%20Newsletter/utm_source/MMORPG/utm_medium/email/eatrack/%5B%7Cemail%7C%5D,7 go to the botom to reveal all comments, and press CTR+F and write DUST P.S. this is discusion about DUST 514 reputation, and not WoD canceling. If yuo want to discus about it, go to https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155562&find=unread or https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=337022&find=unread i was under the impression all of us insiders thought dust sucks as well, dont get me wrong i still play it all the time but i think the game sucks, i would never recommend it to anyone i know, but thats just because i dont want to invite low caliber players to this crappy game i enjoy heres some recent ones http://i57.tinypic.com/301n33b.jpg http://i57.tinypic.com/25h263s.jpg
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2393	Posted - 2014.04.20 17:30:00 - [3] - Quote I don't hate it, but I certainly don't like it as much as I used to.
CRYPT3C W0LF SilenT AngelS RISE of LEGION 613	Posted - 2014.04.20 17:34:00 - [4] - Quote Haters gona hate. They be drinkin Hate'orade I Make Youtube Videos!:) Forum evolution, the cycle must continue...
Odigos Ellinas Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 91	Posted - 2014.04.20 17:36:00 - [5] - Quote The only reason i hang around is a promise for a better future. And its pretty much the best F2P FPS on ps3.
keno trader Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 60	Posted - 2014.04.20 17:46:00 - [6] - Quote Game sucks. Just waiting for content. One day.....one long long day away. *1.8* --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes. *1.8* --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 3744	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:02:00 - [7] - Quote Because lag and system crashing sucks. Because development takes so ***** long. Because fixes take too *** long. Because it lacks the basic content of any game claiming to be a MMO. Because, ....ehhh ** it. The more I talk about it the more I want to spend money on something else. I GÖú Kittens.
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4830	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:21:00 - [8] - Quote I'm guessing that it's because of 1 of 2 things: PS3 exclusive FPS The people I know who are both shooter fans and play eve are absolutely in love with Dust- both those who have it and those who don't. I'm from the weird side of the internet
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4830	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:22:00 - [9] - Quote Odigos Ellinas wrote: The only reason i hang around is a promise for a better future. And its pretty much the best F2P FPS on ps3. Just about best FPS period on ps3. The battlefield franchise is Dust's rival for this. I'm from the weird side of the internet
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2497	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:30:00 - [10] - Quote I have to agree with McBob. Outsiders who give the game ** are mostly jealous cause they can't play it, If you run cloak and shotgun, you're a scrub Don't brick tank that scout, come on, get good. Proud member of RND**

Izlare Lenix Arrogance. 463	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:37:00 - [11] - Quote People who rage on Dust are the same type of player that rage on EVE. They try the game out a few times. Realize it is too hard compared to the ezmode games they are used to. Then they give up, refuse to admit they are terrible at hard games, and then just bash EVE/Dust claiming they "suck." Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Ulme Mees Rautaleijona 169	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:54:00 - [12] - Quote It's the type of peoplel who whine on everything else other then them selves. Its the governments fault! Its the employers fault! Its the economy! etc. Your have free will, play or don't play. If you feel something is out of balance use constructive criticism. Fear is a disease!
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2014	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:56:00 - [13] - Quote this game is a joke. ccp in their arrogance tried to make an fps and promised us an awesome experience...they didn't know crap about making an fps though and yet somehow still act like their shite doesn't stink. you know I take it back this game isn't a joke, ccp is the joke. this game is the punchline. this game makes me sad....
Odigos Ellinas Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 93	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:57:00 - [14] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Odigos Ellinas wrote: The only reason i hang around is a promise for a better future. And its pretty much the best F2P FPS on ps3. Just about best FPS period on ps3. The battlefield franchise is Dust's rival for this. Battlefield is not free to play on ps3. Its expensive with all the DLC's If you where paying the same money to Dust 514 it would be a larger dave;opera team. But 1 is free and the anther not you can't compare this 2
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2590	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:07:00 - [15] - Quote Considering I didn't read that article, when would I have been there to defend it? Let think what they want, there belief is just further evidence of their scorn nothing more. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
dalt ud Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 599	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:10:00 - [16] - Quote because that game made by people who have no one piece of knowledge about FPS p.s. but chromosome was OK, but guys who made chromosoma was fired, i guess
GLOBAL RAGE Consolidated Dust 50	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:28:00 - [17] - Quote FPS players want 75ms latency at the most and 60 frames at least. DUST514 is no where near, actually in another galaxy, accomplishing anything close to a competitive shooter. In fact it favors players with sshity internet connections. CCP needs to wake up and then tighten up it's netcode, and stop carrying the "free riders". CCP needs to realize that players with high KDR are more than very likely laggers that are ruining everyone's playtime. CCP needs more than 3 regions, and players should not be allowed to cross regions. Alliances and corporations should not be allowed to be constituted from cross regional assets. MMO-RPG elements should be nerfed, until true non-FPS roles and activities are added.
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 907	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:30:00 - [18] - Quote If a time traveler came back to me as I was playing Lazy Jones on my Commodore 64 and said, "kid, in 20 years time there will be a spaceship industry MMO, a console shooter and potentially a VR dog fighting game tied into one universe." I'd have smashed him to death with the keyboard. Who else is doing that? You won't find another cross genre/cross platform sci-fi IP out there like EVE. Maybe it's because I can appreciate the innovative and pioneering nature of the project that I don't prance around like the band wagon haters in here. If you want a fully fleshed out FPS with balance and multi game modes **** off and go play the latest yearly installment of Modern Call of War Fighter Field Fall. I seriously feel sorry for anyone who plays this game and is bitter, thinks the game sucks or allows it to fill them with rage (the likes I've seen here and on the mic from randoms) etc. And I don't mean that sarcastically, I do. I'd never associate myself willingly to anything that makes me feel that way but it seems people are enslaved to the monetary and/or time investment and can't walk away. I'll be gone the day that I feel even a fraction of what some of the butt devastated here feel. I'm glad to have been here for the last 2 years and to watch the game grow. I like playing through the ups and downs of development and watching it grow. I'm glad I can appreciate it for what it is and keep my expectations in check...and I'm glad I'm not the kind of person that stays on a forum bitching and moaning just to try and justify their decision to not play/hate the game and/or to troll cause that's probably one of the saddest behaviors. 1.8 is awesome, Minmatar are awesome and I can't wait to see what FF brings. Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
Rusty Shallows 1591	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:37:00 - [19] - Quote Kovinis Sparagas wrote: I read some comments about WoD canceling. And found that every single of them who mentions DUST, says it was a failure, a bad idea, the reason why WoD were canceled. And not a SINGLE comment who tried to defend DUST. Why so? Do you agree with them? I was very surprised, how outsiders think about DUST 514 snip Dust's failures is besides the point. It has more to do with the motivations for the negative posts. The WoD Franchise is twice as old as Eve Online and has more passionate people than we will ever see on any CCP game. Ending the WoD MMO was a personal attack on some of these people. There are Eve Online pilots who don't want to lose control. Some of them love to boast about a HTFU mindset and how they hate carebaers. Put their null ISK resources at risk and suddenly they become just as vulnerably human as the rest of us. Non-CCP competition. This is no different than football hooligans or game zealots who need to trash a threat. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Odigos Ellinas Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 94	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:55:00 - [20] - Quote GLOBAL RAGE wrote: FPS players want 75ms latency at the most and 60 frames at least. DUST514 is no where near, actually in another galaxy, accomplishing anything close to a competitive shooter. In fact it favors players with sshity internet connections. CCP needs to wake up and then tighten up it's netcode, and stop carrying the "free riders". CCP needs to realize that players with high KDR are more than very likely laggers that are ruining everyone's playtime. CCP needs more than 3 regions, and players should not be allowed to cross regions. Alliances and corporations should not be allowed to be constituted from cross regional assets. MMO-RPG elements should be nerfed, until true non-FPS roles and activities are added. man you are in the wrong game. One universe, one love, no borders!!!

Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 156	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:21:00 - [21] - Quote COVERT SUBTERFUGE wrote: If a time traveler came back to me as I was playing Lazy Jones on my Commodore 64 and said, "kid, in 20 years time there will be a spaceship industry MMO, a console shooter and potentially a VR dog fighting game tied into one universe." I'd have smashed him to death with the keyboard. Who else is doing that? You won't find another cross genre/cross platform sci-fi IP out there like EVE. Maybe it's because I can appreciate the innovative and pioneering nature of the project that I don't prance around like the band wagon haters in here. If you want a fully fleshed out FPS with balance and multi game modes ** off and go play the latest yearly installment of Modern Call of War Fighter Field Fall. I seriously feel sorry for anyone who plays this game and is bitter, thinks the game sucks or allows it to fill them with rage (the likes I've seen here and on the mic from randoms) etc. And I don't mean that sarcastically, I do. I'd never associate myself willingly to anything that makes me feel that way but it seems people are enslaved to the monetary and/or time investment and can't walk away. I'll be gone the day that I feel even a fraction of what some of the butt devastated here feel. I'm glad to have been here for the last 2 years and to watch the game grow. I like playing through the ups and downs of development and watching it grow. I'm glad I can appreciate it for what it is and keep my expectations in check...and I'm glad I'm not the kind of person that stays on a forum bitching and moaning just to try and justify their decision to not play/hate the game and/or to troll cause that's probably one of the saddest behaviors. 1.8 is awesome, Minmatar are awesome and I can't wait to see what FF brings. I dont think that every part of dust is ** too. but I dont think everything is rosy. I think Dust needs more players to continue being developed and I see that not much is being done about it. PvE could solve most issues and I hope FF will bring news about it. The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 212	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:26:00 - [22] - Quote Odigos Ellinas wrote: The only reason i hang around is a promise for a better future. And its pretty much the best F2P FPS on ps3. Thought it was the only F2p Fps on ps3... Theres more?
Seeth Mensch Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 214	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:38:00 - [23] - Quote I love this beta that I am part of. If they had kept it in BETA officially, they probably would be getting cut more slack. I presume we are the testing ground before the PS4 release which should have more of it's s**t straight. However, I am enjoying the growth, I like reading the dev comments on a regular basis, I have fun playing and getting new goodies and trying them out. I rage around and the like while I'm playing, but that's just part of the style, I don't let it ruin my day or anything. I don't consider this, or any game "free". I put money into things that I enjoy. Typically, I used to get a new game around every month or so. I got tired of that, and wanted to play more action oriented stuff, was introduced to this by my friend (who ironically promptly bailed). This is not a game that caters to just twitch reflexes, nor to people who want to be constantly fed new goodies. You work and earn your tools here, and I appreciate that. Unless I get caught on another game, I'll be around. You just won't see me. SCOUTS FOREVER! /fades away Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 1221	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:48:00 - [24] - Quote Blaming DUST for World of Darkness's death is odd. Why are they blaming DUST but not Valkyrie? It is just anger that WoD, which not that many people were harping on about until it died (like every artist ever), is gone. They want to blame something but rather than stating that "CCP had eyes bigger than its stomach with developing the most expensive genre of games when they already had a PC MMO, a FPS-MMO, and another game in development" they just want to say that it is DUST's fault because DUST isn't a polished product. If DUST were hugely popular and contender for Game of the Year I can imagine that everyone would be going on about how "Valkyrie and Facebook killed WoD!" "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
GLOBAL RAGE Consolidated Dust 50	Posted - 2014.04.20 21:16:00 - [25] - Quote Odigos Ellinas wrote: GLOBAL RAGE wrote: FPS players want 75ms latency at the most and 60 frames at least. DUST514 is no where near, actually in another galaxy, accomplishing anything close to a competitive shooter. In fact it favors players with sshity internet connections. CCP needs to wake up and then tighten up it's netcode, and stop carrying the "free riders". CCP needs to realize that players with high KDR are more than very likely laggers that are ruining everyone's playtime. CCP needs more than 3 regions, and players should not be allowed to cross regions. Alliances and corporations should not be allowed to be constituted from cross regional assets. MMO-RPG elements should be nerfed, until true non-FPS roles and activities are added. man you are in the wrong game. One universe, one love, no borders!!! would you make 20 jumps in EVE in order to play one 15 minute match? and then make 40 jumps back in the opposite direction for the next? treat routers a EVE GATES and my opinion is valid. would a RL corp such as XE, move their assets around? NO-too expensive and way too dangerous. One universe-NOT, only 32 players in the last match. one love-NOT, the majority of DUST MERCS don't give a hoot at this juncture we just want a working game. No borders? my PS3..lol Finally CCP's efforts, in strict regards to lag determination, are an abject failure; because, it can not be done. there, this Easter I suffered a fool.
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 317	Posted - 2014.04.20 21:32:00 - [26] - Quote When I got interested in this game, I kept my expectations to a healthy minimum. I asked myself, if I thought CCP: 1) Had the experience in handling fast-paced competitive FPS action? 2) Could they compete in that field against established franchises? 3) Who does CCP remind me more of: Newell or Molyneaux? But, despite those, the idea of the Dust/Eve link and the often quoted "one universa; one war", and CCP's commitment to continuous development spanning years, truly inspired me to give this game a chance. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Jimbo Boilstaff THE MASSIVE DYNAMIC 106	Posted - 2014.04.20 21:47:00 - [27] - Quote DUST is like Game Of Thrones.... For some reason we all stay around thinking that it'll finally get better one day,,,, But instead all we get is endless ****.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjzC2DRgEo4
dalt ud Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 599	Posted - 2014.04.20 22:09:00 - [28] - Quote Jimbo Boilstaff wrote: For some reason we all stay around thinking that it'll finally get better one day,,,, situation is much worse, most of you still buy AUR, so CCP think all is OK.
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2015	Posted - 2014.04.20 22:12:00 - [29] - Quote Jimbo Boilstaff wrote: DUST is like Game Of Thrones.... For some reason we all stay around thinking that it'll finally get better one day,,,, But instead all we get is endless ****.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjzC2DRgEo4 CCP sends their regards... this game makes me sad....
Odigos Ellinas Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 99	Posted - 2014.04.21 00:58:00 - [30] - Quote GLOBAL RAGE wrote: Odigos Ellinas wrote: GLOBAL RAGE wrote: FPS players want 75ms latency at the most and 60 frames at least. DUST514 is no where near, actually in another galaxy, accomplishing anything close to a competitive shooter. In fact it favors players with sshity internet connections. CCP needs to wake up and then tighten up it's netcode, and stop carrying the "free riders". CCP needs to realize that players with high KDR are more than very likely laggers that are ruining everyone's playtime. CCP needs more than 3 regions, and players should not be allowed to cross regions. Alliances and corporations should not be allowed to be constituted from cross regional assets. MMO-RPG elements should be nerfed, until true non-FPS roles and activities are added. man you are in the wrong game. One universe, one love, no borders!!! would you make 20 jumps in EVE in order to play one 15 minute match? and then make 40 jumps back in the opposite direction for the next? treat routers a EVE GATES and my opinion is valid. would a RL corp such as XE, move their assets around? NO-too expensive and way too dangerous. One universe-NOT, only 32 players in the last match. one love-NOT, the majority of DUST MERCS don't give a hoot at this juncture we just want a working game. No borders? my PS3..lol Finally CCP's efforts, in strict regards to lag determination, are an abject failure; because, it can not be done. there, this Easter I suffered a fool. 20-40 jumps if want to do it yes i can NO ESTRICTIONS. Should it be the same hard to travel through the galaxy in dust yes. I have seen a lot of corps moving there assets around. 0.0 is a hard place to settle you have always a escape plan. But what has that to do with your crazy as CoD/BF/halo view of game? You are in the wrong game man can't say it enough.



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