DUST Search - Are the proto stomping corps an enemy to the game itself?

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

''Are the proto stomping corps an enemy to the game itself...''

No. Thats an excuse people use to justify sucking or getting killed in any situation. Example;'' OMG he killed me! Oh it was a proto weapon, he had a MASSIVE ADVANTAGE OVER ME, i couldnt win at all''

I know this because i used to be like this.
After using Proto Stuff MYSELF i've been coming back to playing ADV-STD.
You see, wearing proto is like a turd wearing a lot of golden rings and expensive pimp: It looks really cool (to him) But it does not mean he is Rich (Even if the idea is for people to THINK he has a lot of money).He can be living under a bridge for all you know.

Same here, one can wear proto all you want, but besides the psychological advantage, there is not a MASSIVE advantage that cannot be countered.

Example:
ADVANCED Assault Combat Rifle: 20 damage / 17.000 ISK
Proto Combat Rifle : 21 damage and like +0.4 accuracy / 77.000 ISK

See where im coming from? To think that one won because he has a mere 1 more damage is just fooling yourself.

In regards to SQUAD stomping, you cannot attempt to nerf TEAMPLAY.
To counter team play, team play must be used.

What i must agree with, and the source of the problem (AND TRUE advantage of some players) is the SP DIFFERENCE.

this is truly what matters. If you could have a Full proto Suit with proto weapon and modules and equipment, but only skilled in stuff to getting to those (minimal to achieve those proto stuff), you are going to lose nevertheless to someone with 30-40 million SP in Passive skills using a G-1 BPO....

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Beeeees Militaires Sans Jeux 531	Posted - 2014.04.17 23:19:00 - [61] - Quote Protostomping IS killing the fucking game. You cant introduce absolute freedom to a broken environment. Loopholes will be exploited. Bugs will be abused. Systems will be broken. While punishing those who do anything to gain an advantage is just as much morally questionable as doing so, Loopholes can be closed. Bugs can be fixed. Systems can be reworked. Why CCP takes its time to introduce new shineys instead of fixing matchmaking and hotfixing PC not to print free money escapes my undertanding. Oh and as someone who perfectly has the capability to run full proto 3 weeks a month out of 4, Im gonna let you in on a secret: If you feel the need to use fully tanked proto fits in pubs, you are a shitter and a noskill. Thats an axiom. Its like bringing a chainsaw into the boxing ring. That implies that you absolutely need that edge to win. TOLD514
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 329	Posted - 2014.04.17 23:30:00 - [62] - Quote Actually I think CCP is very sneakily fixing the proto stomp situation right now. For matchmaking to work there needs to be decent groups of players at each level and all of these SP events are shifting things in that direction. The events we have had give out max 750k extra or in this weeks case 380k. The MCC gave out an amazing amount of SP across the board. Proto players gain little from this as when it comes to maxing a skill out all of the earned SP can go to one skill level. Mid level players either quickly become grouped in the mid / high ADV range or jump to a proto. Beginners quickly become mid level players or miss out on most of the extra and stay where they are. My point is we are quickly segregating ourselves based on how much and how long we have played leaving room for new players to more easily be placed with new players. It is quite brilliant and I hope it was planned this way because that would give me an amazing new view on management around here. The effects of what they are doing here are going to be very fun to see, in fact I may write up a long rambling thread about it soon to see who agrees.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 18	Posted - 2014.04.18 00:44:00 - [63] - Quote How about no squading in pubs. Large corps can call it a " reservation " show your worth as an individual merc. And smile when you see a corpmate on the other side of the board. Played in a corp long age... Used to have a sniper buddy that would troll me whenever we where on opposing teams, limp me but never kill me .... But he was merciless. Lonewolf till I die
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 147	Posted - 2014.04.18 08:01:00 - [64] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: If you want communism, go play on the Asia server. Here in America, winners go home and ** the prom queen. Lol, so your a winner? The chance is in the USA 99 out of 100 times youre gonna be the one ** over by your precious winners dude. So yeah, I guess youre rich and have the playmate girlfriend that adores you and so on. You live the american dream after all, man. Why the are you here playing this game? Go fly your ***** helicopter, Donald. Thats what I would do if I where rich like you Well, if the trend continues, you are on foodstamps in 3 years too, so go buy yourself a nice reserve of vaseline. Good lord I really want a helicopter now I just troll you. What I really want to say is: Dust would be more fun for everyone if more people would be playing it (like the real economy :P). EVE has 30k. We have 3. Why? It doesnt have to be like this! The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always. NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Casual solo
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 870	Posted - 2014.04.18 08:05:00 - [65] - Quote Rule #1 in new eden: If a mechanic can be exploited it will be. If you don't like proto(squad)stompers sh-tting on the game, complain to CCP who has made that possible. (I almost always just run standard/milita gear, just ask anyone.) Fixing swarms
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 870	Posted - 2014.04.18 08:07:00 - [66] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: If you want communism, go play on the Asia server. Here in America, winners go home and **** the prom queen. ... or the valedictorian. Simmer down, nerds. Dude, leave Sir Sean Connery and The Rock out of this. That movie is way to awesome (for a popcorn flick) to be applied towards try-hards. Fixing swarms
Cinnamon267 161	Posted - 2014.04.18 08:08:00 - [67] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: Pub matches - STD FW - ADV PC - Proto (as normal) That's.... a stupidly good idea, actually. I already use standard gear for mostly everything.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 19	Posted - 2014.04.18 08:13:00 - [68] - Quote Yes...corps need to start fighting again. It's like PC is ran by Don King. Lonewolf till I die
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 873	Posted - 2014.04.18 08:15:00 - [69] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: Yes...corps need to start fighting again. It's like PC is ran by Don King. I think a better anaolgy would be John D. Rockefeller or maybe the East India Trading Company or even Comcast/EA. Fixing swarms
HYENAKILLER X WILL FIGHT ANYONE 720	Posted - 2014.04.18 08:21:00 - [70] - Quote Proto stomping corps give you a goal to work towards. Vehicles ruin this game. How can you walk into an mmo fps and expect to not get whooped? THAT HAPPENS IN EVERY SINGLE MATCH REGARDLESS OF WHAT GAME YOU PLAY. WIMPY MFRS!!! Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.

Gemini Cuspid Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2014.04.18 09:07:00 - [71] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ''Are the proto stomping corps an enemy to the game itself...'' No. Thats an excuse people use to justify sucking or getting killed in any situation. Example;'' OMG he killed me! Oh it was a proto weapon, he had a MASSIVE ADVANTAGE OVER ME, i couldnt win at all'' I know this because i used to be like this. After using Proto Stuff MYSELF i've been coming back to playing ADV-STD. You see, wearing proto is like a turd wearing a lot of golden rings and expensive pimp: It looks really cool (to him) But it does not mean he is Rich (Even if the idea is for people to THINK he has a lot of money).He can be living under a bridge for all you know. Same here, one can wear proto all you want, but besides the psychological advantage, there is not a MASSIVE advantage that cannot be countered. Example: ADVANCED Assault Combat Rifle: 20 damage / 17.000 ISK Proto Combat Rifle : 21 damage and like +0.4 accuracy / 77.000 ISK See where im coming from? To think that one won because he has a mere 1 more damage is just fooling yourself. In regards to SQUAD stomping, you cannot attempt to nerf TEAMPLAY. To counter team play, team play must be used. What i must agree with, and the source of the problem (AND TRUE advantage of some players) is the SP DIFFERENCE. this is truly what matters. If you could have a Full proto Suit with proto weapon and modules and equipment, but only skilled in stuff to getting to those (minimal to achieve those proto stuff), you are going to lose nevertheless to someone with 30-40 million SP in Passive skills using a G-1 BPO.... I'll answer this one easily with an old-school MMO reply: epic armor makes a horrible player decent and average skilled players still average. The dust reply: being crappy but with running with proto stuff means you can afford to miss shots, afford to get hit and afford to have equipment to let you last longer in the field versus someone who's just crappy overall and walking bullseye. Likewise the alternative is this game just can't figure out how to invite new players [despite the answers being laid in front of them multiple times] and keep changing the game in such dramatics turns that eventually no one save vets play and that means this becomes a sinkhole of a game that gets slated to be scrapped. While I agree skills make the player I am not naive or blind enough to also know that having access to superior weapons/armor doesn't make my job harder. Why if that one extra shot it took me to kill someone results in another player seeing my gunfight and finishing me off? I can go on "theatrical example" too ya know. I'm just being realistic though on what stuff goes down actually.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 19	Posted - 2014.04.18 09:17:00 - [72] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: Proto stomping corps give you a goal to work towards. Vehicles ruin this game. How can you walk into an mmo fps and expect to not get whooped? THAT HAPPENS IN EVERY SINGLE MATCH REGARDLESS OF WHAT GAME YOU PLAY. WIMPY MFRS!!! The goal is being who every solo player hates? No thanks I'd rather squad up with newbs and be the one guy spanking proto ass. And corps are the only ones spamming ADS and good tanks. I've got no time for corps I have a job a wife and a life. Lonewolf till I die
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 457	Posted - 2014.04.18 09:48:00 - [73] - Quote add a thirst stat and the new player can carry a water jug to and from a water source to give the frontline troops a drink = NPE fixed u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189


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