DUST Search - to those who say you can always see scouts

Garrett Blacknova wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

Here are the pictures provided by CCP where is the blue when standing still?
http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/equipment-uprising-1.8/

Garrett if you can still see blue when they are standing still you need to
A) Have someone sequence your genome to see if they can find a gentic marker to use in super genetically modified soilders
B) Go to an opticians have them exam your eyes, see if they can find a physical difference which they can use in the future to repair damage eyes
C) Get out of this discussion because you have an above average eyesight and therefore your point are null and void.

You're forgetting the most important one.

D) People who have trouble should change the settings on their TV so they can see them too.

It's really, REALLY not that hard.

1. Turn up contrast and colour.
2. Notice that all your games look better because this is the equivalent of a "dynamic mode" which is better for fast-paced movies as well as gaming.
3. Realise that those "sneaky invisible people" are suddenly, magically no longer anywhere near as invisible.

Alternatively, there is another possibility which you also missed.

E) Your TV sucks. Upgrade.

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Bormir1r Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 291	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:14:00 - [31] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Do me a favor and when in a game look around really fast and tell me can you focus on any object while your doing it? the answer is no, becuase eyes dont work like that so sure you can see the highly visable scouts, when your standing still and focused on a single direction. but the moment you move to check your back the screen blurs and that blue outline cant be seen untill you stay looking at a single point and let the image sharpen. the cloak is camoflauge, and it works by disrupting the brains ability to use its pattern regocnition to say "oh hey thats a person and not part of the visual background noise my brain normally filters out" http://science.howstuffworks.com/military-camouflage1.htm science ***** It depends more on the color/lighting scheme of the surroundings. Usually when it's a brighter environment, it's harder to see cloaked scouts, but when it's darker cloaked scouts show up like fireflies. "One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2349	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:18:00 - [32] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Do me a favor and when in a game look around really fast and tell me can you focus on any object while your doing it? the answer is no, becuase eyes dont work like that so sure you can see the highly visable scouts, when your standing still and focused on a single direction. but the moment you move to check your back the screen blurs and that blue outline cant be seen untill you stay looking at a single point and let the image sharpen. the cloak is camoflauge, and it works by disrupting the brains ability to use its pattern regocnition to say "oh hey thats a person and not part of the visual background noise my brain normally filters out" http://science.howstuffworks.com/military-camouflage1.htm science ***** so your saying you should change they way you look around? I agree, because what ever i'm doing works fine ^^
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 113	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:26:00 - [33] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Do me a favor and when in a game look around really fast and tell me can you focus on any object while your doing it? the answer is no, becuase eyes dont work like that so sure you can see the highly visable scouts, when your standing still and focused on a single direction. but the moment you move to check your back the screen blurs and that blue outline cant be seen untill you stay looking at a single point and let the image sharpen. the cloak is camoflauge, and it works by disrupting the brains ability to use its pattern regocnition to say "oh hey thats a person and not part of the visual background noise my brain normally filters out" http://science.howstuffworks.com/military-camouflage1.htm science ***** Maybe get a better TV? I can see them just fine.
Yan Darn Science For Death 609	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:33:00 - [34] - Quote Sev Alcatraz wrote: I always catch then right before I get shot gunned in the face or they Stand in a door way I know there around when the REs go off and there are no reds in sight, the problem is the power to be invisible with no actual hard counter or draw backs, you can go invisible as much as you want without a worry in the world, flux nades won't take em out and the only way to catch em on scans is with a proto cal scout hunter, Cloaks are OP as hell and need a hard counter and higher fitting requirement your should have to choose between a cloak and RE and HP and firearm. Cloaks cost as much, if not more than other equipment it's level even at lv5 scout. Cloaks are the only thing the scout role bonus applies to ( as opposed to any equipment like logis, or any weapons like assaults or any splash damage like sentinels - hell that one is completely passive, they don't have to equip anything). If we do not equip a cloak - we have no role bonus. I'm sure I'm not the only scout who would rather have cloaks deleted than have my whole role nerfed around it. OT: the contrast on my ps3 games is a problem - was the same with Mass Effect (Xbox is fine apart from Skyrim...). because of it, I have trouble keeping track of a cloaked scout against bright/sunny backgrounds but its really easy to see against a dark background. I know a lot people don't struggle to notice me even im stood still in a corner. My issue is because the visibility of he cloak varies from screen to screen as well as eye to eye, it's difficult for me to factor in environment/terrain/lighting in my stealth efforts - I wonder if in some specific situations I'm better off not activating cloaks... The technical issues on top of gameplay issues make me think CCP don't have the ability to balance cloaks in a way that will keep most happy ( obviously, some people just hate cloaks in principal; those guys will never let the matter drop). I agree with what somebody said before - train yourself to notice unusual movement (or just the unusual) rather than specific shapes and colours. I think I trained that kind of thing playing old games where interactive/moveable objects looked different from background objects - if that makes sense. The Ghost of Bravo
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 280	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:33:00 - [35] - Quote Is that why you hide in a tank? Bang?
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1967	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:36:00 - [36] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Is that why you hide in a tank? not a tanker... i pull out sicas ocasionally to nuke pain in the ass tripple rep maddies but thats about it I put Kinetic Catalyzers on EVERYTHING
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4836	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:57:00 - [37] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Is that why you hide in a tank? not a tanker... i pull out sicas ocasionally to nuke pain in the ass tripple rep maddies but thats about it Funny. You always claimed to be a tanker pre 1.8. Saw you constantly in rail gun tanks. You lobbied extensively for rendering fixes for railguns. Seems suspiciously like a tanker. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1382	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:13:00 - [38] - Quote I have terribad vision (can't read words more than 1-2 meters away unless very large text) and I can see cloaked scouts that are moving
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 1970	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:20:00 - [39] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Is that why you hide in a tank? not a tanker... i pull out sicas ocasionally to nuke pain in the ass tripple rep maddies but thats about it Funny. You always claimed to be a tanker pre 1.8. Saw you constantly in rail tanks. You lobbied extensively for rendering fixes for railguns. Seems suspiciously like a tanker. i was a tanker in chrome and continued lobbying for fixes long after i stopped actually tanking :P i dont even have proto rails I put Kinetic Catalyzers on EVERYTHING
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5131	Posted - 2014.04.16 20:04:00 - [40] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Here are the pictures provided by CCP where is the blue when standing still? http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/equipment-uprising-1.8/ Garrett if you can still see blue when they are standing still you need to A) Have someone sequence your genome to see if they can find a gentic marker to use in super genetically modified soilders B) Go to an opticians have them exam your eyes, see if they can find a physical difference which they can use in the future to repair damage eyes C) Get out of this discussion because you have an above average eyesight and therefore your point are null and void. You're forgetting the most important one. D) People who have trouble should change the settings on their TV so they can see them too. It's really, REALLY not that hard. 1. Turn up contrast and colour. 2. Notice that all your games look better because this is the equivalent of a "dynamic mode" which is better for fast-paced movies as well as gaming. 3. Realise that those "sneaky invisible people" are suddenly, magically no longer anywhere near as invisible. Alternatively, there is another possibility which you also missed. E) Your TV sucks. Upgrade.

Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 440	Posted - 2014.04.16 20:51:00 - [41] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Yes, I can see anyone shimmering if I turn quickly. No, I can't see them if they're standing still and I turn quickly. Yes, I can see them if they're standing still and I focus. If you can't see anyone in a BRIGHT, BLUE SHIMMER then you're probably in need of better glasses or something. the OP invented glasses tho. he is my optometrist u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2543	Posted - 2014.04.16 21:52:00 - [42] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Here are the pictures provided by CCP where is the blue when standing still? http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/equipment-uprising-1.8/ Garrett if you can still see blue when they are standing still you need to A) Have someone sequence your genome to see if they can find a gentic marker to use in super genetically modified soilders B) Go to an opticians have them exam your eyes, see if they can find a physical difference which they can use in the future to repair damage eyes C) Get out of this discussion because you have an above average eyesight and therefore your point are null and void. You're forgetting the most important one. D) People who have trouble should change the settings on their TV so they can see them too. It's really, REALLY not that hard. 1. Turn up contrast and colour. 2. Notice that all your games look better because this is the equivalent of a "dynamic mode" which is better for fast-paced movies as well as gaming. 3. Realise that those "sneaky invisible people" are suddenly, magically no longer anywhere near as invisible. Alternatively, there is another possibility which you also missed. E) Your TV sucks. Upgrade. My contrast and colour are always up My TV doesn't need an upgrade it's already 1080p. Your arguments consist of nothing more than 'it's not that difficult honest' , which is null and void because each person is different hence you can not make this arguement for everyone. Which instead means your arguments translate to, "Im fortunate because I can see them, ****you all", we can at least say it's a cloak and that is why as per its design it is difficult to see. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5137	Posted - 2014.04.17 07:02:00 - [43] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: My TV doesn't need an upgrade it's already 1080p. 1080p doesn't necessarily mean quality. The first HDTV I had was capable of 1080p, but it refused to work properly with the 1080p setting on the PS3, and kept refusing to work every time I restarted the PS3 or turned the TV off and back on unless I turned it down to 720p. It worked fine with a friend's Blu-Ray player when we tested that, but not with the PS3. And at 720p, even with colour and contrast turned up, games looked washed out and it didn't seem like that big an upgrade from my 32" SDTV. My current HDTV is a good brand, and it works really well, the colours are clearly visible and everything looks amazing. When I play Assassin's Creed, I can wedge Alta-ü+»r into a corner so I can zoom in and have his daggers filling the whole screen, and instead of getting pixelated edges, I can see the Damascus patterning along the blades. When I play DUST, well... I can actually see things properly. Apparently that's an issue for some people.
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 800	Posted - 2014.04.17 07:05:00 - [44] - Quote You can't always see scouts , but if you're standing still you can spot the shimmer. I don't have a problem with it, but what I have noticed is on certain maps and moods, the shimmer is very difficult. Whenever there is a light coloured ground with bright blue sky... the shimmer blends in very well. they are easy to see on dark backgrounds like any of the urban tilesets. As we're stuck with low-res tilesets for a while the only tweak I can see would be to change the shimmer color (if this is even possible)...
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 1191	Posted - 2014.04.17 07:06:00 - [45] - Quote I was in FEAST(an alliance Que-sync against ourselves) and i heard an enemy scouter rage at me "how the **** did you see me?" You're blue, and you're 2m away from me and i JUST got hung op on your leg. How do i NOT see that? Also, it's pretty funny seeing scouts just stare at you when they're caught. General John Ripper is my 2nd best friend!
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 493	Posted - 2014.04.17 08:08:00 - [46] - Quote It's a silly argument. Cloaks make it hard to see people most of the time. Not all of the time, but most of the time. If they didn't people wouldn't be using them and there would be few more kills from scouts than before. Neither is the case. Because, that's why.


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