I bang a tank multiple times with Ishokone forge, one of the most powerful handheld weapon in the game, barely make a dent in it's health and all I get is the lousy t-shirt

Tanks with the Hardener nerfs can't take sustained fire and survive they have to retreat or die.

Swarms are a good example with the changes as they are actually lethal for a tanker now. That sustained fire of missiles coming in and not being able to out repair the damage fast enough has made swarms viable again.

I Frequently get 3k+ warpoints fighting tanks for a round with the new damage mechanic.. It also motivates me to have an anti vehicle fitting always ready to score a few extra war points.

Forges are all about that burst damage surprise mode. So when you are charged call in your Squad mate with AV grenades or some kind of AV to move in close to the tank to finish them off after you let the first shot go, Or plant a bunch of proxi's on their escape exit then bait him to run that way with forge gun fire...

The AV game hasn't been in this good of a place for 5-6 months.

Swarms are a good example with the changes as they are actually lethal for a tanker now. That sustained fire of missiles coming in and not being able to out repair the damage fast enough has made swarms viable again.

^ Bullsh!t.

Corpmate (Hauker Due) and I drive up right up behind a Tank, hop out of our LAV and fire volleys as fast as we can.
We're both running Proto Swarms. He's Proficiency 5. I'm Proficiency 4. Teamwork, and all that.
What do you think happened?

Same match; same exact scenario. Except this time we pull up to a parked Dropship.
We hop out and fire volleys as fast as we can; the dropship takes off.
What do you think happened?

I bang a tank multiple times with Ishokone forge, one of the most powerful handheld weapon in the game, barely make a dent in its health and all I get is the very occasional reward or 75 war points in return.

That's the bone you throw at infantry for essentially handing this game over to tankers in 1.7? You nerf the **** out of every effective AV weapon in the game, make tanks ridiculously cheap, ridiculously fast and ridiculously impossible to kill and and then add insult to injury take away one third of our grenades in 1.8 and all infantry gets in return is a measly maybe twice a match 75 points for tank damage.

You've got to be kidding me.

Its ridiculous

it takes an entire clip from an IAFG with the highest damage it could ever possibly do (4 cmplx dmg mods and max prof), to kill a tripple rep maddy from full health, with only around -674 health left over.

If you had just a little less damage than the most damage possible in this game then you will never bring down that tank because it repairs to full by the time you reload.

Its so stupid

Its ridiculous

it takes an entire clip from an IAFG with the highest damage it could ever possibly do (4 cmplx dmg mods and max prof), to kill a tripple rep maddy from full health, with only around -674 health left over.

If you had just a little less damage than the most damage possible in this game then you will never bring down that tank because it repairs to full by the time you reload.

Its so stupid

Old news bud

Pick upp a scout,SG,cloak

And ignore the tanks

For infantry-AV is... ok, but same for vehicles... is amazing :) Now vehicles get toons extra sp from not only killing infantry but also for.. scraching another vehicles.

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AV still isnt in the best of places, its better but a tanker with a brain rarely dies to av. Gets hit once by something and hits the nitro. Swarms need more range or blasters need less range. Im tired of getting killed by a blaster from near 200m away.

Have you also considered that that Madrugar also has maxed skills to be able to fit two complex heavy reps and an enhanced heavy rep to achieve highest possible regen?

I find that to be fair; maxed skills vs maxed skills should be something like that.

Have you also considered that that Madrugar also has maxed skills to be able to fit two complex heavy reps and an enhanced heavy rep to achieve highest possible regen?

I find that to be fair; maxed skills vs maxed skills should be something like that.

^ Bullsh!t.

Corpmate (Hauker Due) and I drive up right up behind a Tank, hop out of our LAV and fire volleys as fast as we can.
We're both running Proto Swarms. He's Proficiency 5. I'm Proficiency 4. Teamwork, and all that.
What do you think happened?

Same match; same exact scenario. Except this time we pull up to a parked Dropship.
We hop out and fire volleys as fast as we can; the dropship takes off.
What do you think happened?

Swarms are a good example with the changes as they are actually lethal for a tanker now. That sustained fire of missiles coming in and not being able to out repair the damage fast enough has made swarms viable again.

I watch people solo maddy's with wiyrikomi swarms these days..

is it swarms of 1.5? hell no.... Can a tanker alternate hardners and sit there and tank several swarms for a minute? Hell no!

Other then running for their life as a defense what can they do?

Good tankers that can survive with consistency are just good players.... They would be hard to kill in whatever you put them in.

Better than nothing right? I'm sure forge guns farm wp off of my python, they knock me into armor if they are good, and a lot are

I bang a tank multiple times with Ishokone forge, one of the most powerful handheld weapon in the game, barely make a dent in its health and all I get is the very occasional reward or 75 war points in return.