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RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 588	Posted - 2014.04.13 22:30:00 - [1] - Quote But now it's not, clearly the cloaked scout + shotgun is dominating the field and Dust is a horrific game to play for those that aren't specced right. Thanks for the first week of 1.8 though, it was truly special.
Skullmiser Vulcansu The Third Day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 90	Posted - 2014.04.13 22:37:00 - [2] - Quote I've been robbed of my scrambler pistol in this update. If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6684	Posted - 2014.04.13 22:37:00 - [3] - Quote Right... A Shotgun user with a Cloak can only effectively kill you if they sneak up on you (in which case he could have killed you without the cloak) , and if you let him kill you from the front your simply a scrub. The only problems I can see with the cloak is the glitch that allows you can fire before the cloak deactivates. Grab a Mass Driver. #LivingLikeLarry [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Christiphoros von Poe Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 317	Posted - 2014.04.13 22:41:00 - [4] - Quote When, in your opinion, was this game balanced in Uprising? (1) "Exile" Assault Rifle reserved for: Fire of Prometheus Uprising->Replication->E3->Codex->Chromosome->Uprising->???
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12308	Posted - 2014.04.13 22:46:00 - [5] - Quote Try opening your eyes. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 233	Posted - 2014.04.13 22:58:00 - [6] - Quote RINON114 wrote: But now it's not, clearly the cloaked scout + shotgun is dominating the field and Dust is a horrific game to play for those that aren't specced right. Thanks for the first week of 1.8 though, it was truly special. Was balanced?!?! This is the first time Dust has been balanced but ppl like u r gonna convince ccp to ruin it Master of The Flaylock
TunRa Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 540	Posted - 2014.04.13 23:07:00 - [7] - Quote RINON114 wrote: But now it's not, clearly the cloaked scout + shotgun is dominating the field and Dust is a horrific game to play for those that aren't specced right. Thanks for the first week of 1.8 though, it was truly special. You just suck Thanks CCP Foxfour Likes received: 514
Denchlad 7 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 131	Posted - 2014.04.13 23:09:00 - [8] - Quote "Dust" and "is balanced" are yet to be put in a sentence that doesnt cause catstrophic amounts of whining. Also, if you cant see the cloaked scouts, as we British say, should've gone to specsavers. Was attempting to proto every weapon a bad idea? Yes. 11 so far If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world
Vell0cet Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 1409	Posted - 2014.04.13 23:25:00 - [9] - Quote This is the most balanced the game's ever been. It's not perfect. Some weapons need a little love others need very small nerfs 2-3% changes. And I agree the cloaking mechanics need to be tweaked a little, but they're not as bad as people are screaming about. Improving active scanners could help with this as well. We're at the point where balancing changes should happen in small steps, and not radical buffs/nerfs. Best PvE idea ever!
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 377	Posted - 2014.04.13 23:34:00 - [10] - Quote Christiphoros von Poe wrote: When, in your opinion, was this game balanced in Uprising? While maybe not in Uprising, but in the final days of Chromosome, the game was actually fairly balanced. It did make veteran players with lots of SP much more powerful than low SP players, but it was fairly balanced in terms of the various weapons and suits. Closed Beta Vet since May, 2012 TEST Alliance Best Alliance Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2246	Posted - 2014.04.13 23:36:00 - [11] - Quote Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote: I've been robbed of my scrambler pistol in this update. Assault variant?
Silver Strike44 Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 3	Posted - 2014.04.13 23:41:00 - [12] - Quote I agree that this is one of the most balanced states this game has been in (at least for as long as ive been playing). HMGs could be nerfed a bit, so could rep stacking on tanks. Medium suits and scanners could be better. Glitches, including those involving infinte sounds, forge guns, movement while on non-level terrain, and others, could be resolved (, even though those dont really have to do with balance). And yes, either you should decloak faster or have a delay in the time that you are able to fire after decloaking. All in all, however, the game feels pretty good right now. Filler
Rusty Shallows 1513	Posted - 2014.04.14 00:14:00 - [13] - Quote Denchlad 7 wrote: "Dust" and "is balanced" are yet to be put in a sentence that doesnt cause catstrophic amounts of whining. snip Try bitter laughter. Anyone who sticks around long enough figures it out. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1751	Posted - 2014.04.14 00:20:00 - [14] - Quote I've played this game for a long time now.. And during that time there was one race and one class that was undisputed the best. For the first time in DUST 514's history it isnt the case. You'll see nearly every race and nearly every class almost each Public match you do. That is truly amazing. DUST 514 has never been so diverse. Scouts for 9 months have been useless... Other then 20-30 Players who EVER made them effective in that time they where a dead class. Scouts now are competitive... So you will see more then 20-30 players that can use them effectively. Are they OP? By simple match and numbers... hell no... By practice? hell no. Same with Heavies.... They are strong again.. And there are players playing it exclusively all day... Same with commandos...(We never saw them before) Logi's are more effective in their role then they have ever been. I think you don't understand what balance is?
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4902	Posted - 2014.04.14 00:22:00 - [15] - Quote Christiphoros von Poe wrote: When, in your opinion, was this game balanced in Uprising? Funny enough, DUST was most balanced in Chromosome, when everything was OP ... aaah those were fun days. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Vitharr Foebane Living Like Larry Schwag 1016	Posted - 2014.04.14 00:50:00 - [16] - Quote Bethhy wrote: I've played this game for a long time now.. And during that time there was one race and one class that was undisputed the best. For the first time in DUST 514's history it isnt the case. You'll see nearly every race and nearly every class almost each Public match you do. That is truly amazing. DUST 514 has never been so diverse. Scouts for 9 months have been useless... Other then 20-30 Players who EVER made them effective in that time they where a dead class. Scouts now are competitive... So you will see more then 20-30 players that can use them effectively. Are they OP? By simple match and numbers... hell no... By practice? hell no. Same with Heavies.... They are strong again.. And there are players playing it exclusively all day... Same with commandos...(We never saw them before) Logi's are more effective in their role then they have ever been. I think you don't understand what balance is? This... there are so many "X is OP" threads going around its hilarious. This can only point to the fact that balance is close at hand Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando III Logistics III I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 588	Posted - 2014.04.14 09:39:00 - [17] - Quote Wow, I didn't realise what a negative reaction this would get. All I seem to ever see is proto gallente/caldari scout with proto/advanced shotguns. I love this idea that you are supposed to see a scout coming, I get that. However, seeing four or five at the same time is not only a ludicrous suggestion, but putting them down is impossible. Scout + Cloak = Great! Scout + Shotgun = Great! Shotgun + Cloak = Great! Scout + Cloak + Shotgun = Overpowered. It is the combination of all three items and the fact that more players than ever are running scout that makes the playstyle ridiculously OP. The scout's speed just adds to how easy it is to get in close and not suffer the poor playstyle that the cloak is offering. It's just like when the TAR was amazing, everybody picked up on it and that's pretty much all you ever saw because it's downright better than everything else. I play on european servers so if you're thinking GÇ£nah that never happensGÇ¥ then sorry but it does over here. Maybe the cloak should operate with a long fire delay so it's used more for espionage and sabotage than as an assault suit.
TCP Logihoe Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2014.04.14 09:47:00 - [18] - Quote Its the best its ever been only slayer logis are compaining and most of them changed rolls
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2826	Posted - 2014.04.14 10:12:00 - [19] - Quote The only people suffing are those who didnt adjust and carrying on as business as usual. Well tough tittes if u specked wrong start reskilling the right way. You people need to learn dust is far more than just you're ability to shoot "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Victor889 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 81	Posted - 2014.04.14 10:16:00 - [20] - Quote I disagree. yes, a lone scout will kill you if they are allowed to sneak up on you, and if they are within kill range - the shotgun should kill you, but if you are playing in a squad, or using a HMG, you should be fine. Change your play style, Join in - I had a go and it is good, Or stop complaining and deal with it like the rest of us have to, Part time Logi, Full time heavy.

The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2325	Posted - 2014.04.14 10:26:00 - [21] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Christiphoros von Poe wrote: When, in your opinion, was this game balanced in Uprising? Funny enough, DUST was most balanced in Chromosome, when everything was OP ... aaah those were fun days. Do you still play the game because I thought you had quit. If Chrome was the most balanced it was because there were four suits and about 6 weapons. Chrome was not balanced. It was proto AR or OP proto LR on an assault suit that served as a half way logi. People think Chrome was the best because there wasn't any diversity and so we all ran pretty much the same suit. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Baby Shaker Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 179	Posted - 2014.04.14 11:43:00 - [22] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Christiphoros von Poe wrote: When, in your opinion, was this game balanced in Uprising? While maybe not in Uprising, but in the final days of Chromosome, the game was actually fairly balanced. It did make veteran players with lots of SP much more powerful than low SP players, but it was fairly balanced in terms of the various weapons and suits. Aside from the op laser rifle and how crappy armor was, chromosome ruled. Long live chromosome!!!! I'm too drunk to taste this chicken
Poultryge1st Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION 55	Posted - 2014.04.14 11:57:00 - [23] - Quote Delanus Turgias wrote: Christiphoros von Poe wrote: When, in your opinion, was this game balanced in Uprising? While maybe not in Uprising, but in the final days of Chromosome, the game was actually fairly balanced. It did make veteran players with lots of SP much more powerful than low SP players, but it was fairly balanced in terms of the various weapons and suits. Yeah, the laser light shows made everything so balanced back then......
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2068	Posted - 2014.04.14 13:11:00 - [24] - Quote I laugh a little every time someone tries to claim that scouts are balanced right now. I've been running a gallente scout and it very clearly steps on the feet of both the assault and logistics classes. If you want to kill people scout is the way to go. It can take on groups of players, kill one or two then escape to return and kill the survivors, then sprint to the next objective and detect / kill all the uplinks on the way. Most logistics suits have 3 equipment slots, but why use the logi suit when you can become a nearly invincible killer with constant 360 degree scans at the cost of one equipment slot? Hell, the godlike scanning ability of the scout is pretty much like the 1.7 scannerina, which makes it sort of equivalent to an equipment slot with a high level scanner in it. I'm having a blast running scout now, but I also had a blast using the old flaylock because it was hilariously OP. It's really not good for the game. Medium suits need a serious buff, or scouts need to be made more fragile. Far too easy to screw up in a scout suit and live.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1445	Posted - 2014.04.14 14:27:00 - [25] - Quote RINON114 wrote: But now it's not, clearly the cloaked scout + shotgun is dominating the field and Dust is a horrific game to play for those that aren't specced right. Thanks for the first week of 1.8 though, it was truly special. I have been shotgunned 5 times so far.. 4 of them was by Calamity... So can't exactly call it OP cause it's pure player skills. The other one was my stupidity... Changed the fittings in your suit and stop complaining please
Spike Slania CREATURES OF THE NIGHT 30	Posted - 2014.04.14 14:34:00 - [26] - Quote There's only 2 things I consider op right now. 1 is the Combat Rifle and 2 is Remote Explosives. Everything else seems to be fitting into place other then grenades, sine they decreased they number we carry they should also decrease cpu/pg cost for them to reflect the loss of a grenade. I'm not too far from you, I can't wait to see you, again and again
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 200	Posted - 2014.04.14 14:39:00 - [27] - Quote 1000HP Logis w/ proto Scanners and auto-aimed Rifles vs gimped Heavies, lolCommandos, and broken Scouts. Exactly which part of the past year struck you as balanced? Bang?
VALCORE72 NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 138	Posted - 2014.04.14 14:42:00 - [28] - Quote only thing that really needs is when you decloak the timer starts at zero other then that its fine . re think need a primer timer like 2 sec maybe even change in animation like hes activating the charge
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1760	Posted - 2014.04.14 15:05:00 - [29] - Quote Poultryge1st wrote: Delanus Turgias wrote: Christiphoros von Poe wrote: When, in your opinion, was this game balanced in Uprising? While maybe not in Uprising, but in the final days of Chromosome, the game was actually fairly balanced. It did make veteran players with lots of SP much more powerful than low SP players, but it was fairly balanced in terms of the various weapons and suits. Yeah, the laser light shows made everything so balanced back then...... They kinda did. You never saw ever map full of Lazers... They had a medium range advantage and then a group of AR, Assaults pushing them to take advantage of their close range weakness. The game Dynamics Lazers made in DUST in Chromosome made the fire fights constantly a push to flank back and forth... Rather then a stale mate between two sides and a giant field of death in the middle. Lazers in Chromsome was broken because a Viziam hitting a headshot with half heat build up did 2k Damage in .8 seconds. The gun its self was glitched... It was never OP, and was easily countered.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1863	Posted - 2014.04.14 15:13:00 - [30] - Quote Atiim wrote: Right... A Shotgun user with a Cloak can only effectively kill you if they sneak up on you (in which case he could have killed you without the cloak) , and if you let him kill you from the front your simply a scrub. The only problems I can see with the cloak is the glitch that allows you can fire before the cloak deactivates. Grab a Mass Driver. That's like saying that they just added lasers to my Pac-Man game so I should grab a hammer and hit the ghosts. No, I want my game of Pac-Man to be me eating pellets and grabbing power pellets to deal with the ghosts. DUST was one thing. Now it is being turned into something else that does not jibe with how it has been getting developed. CCP just headed into left field. How many customers in their already shrinking player base are they going to hold on to? The cloak is great if this game were a hide and seek style arena game. The cloak is great if it only adds a bit of an advantage on top of straight combat tactics. I remember someone who didn't want tanks to get in the way of his infantry game. Same thing. Too much of one thing changes the game (as in genre). Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!



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