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        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 318
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 18:36:00 -
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 Last night "Rebel" Forces led a fleet of 15 to show up and provide Orbital Support for Top Men. It wasn't long before DNS arrived in system with 4 pilots who quickly left the system realizing they couldn't do anything.
 
 What this actually means:
 Despite DNS's HUGE EVE side which is often a bragging point for most alliances with an EVE side. DNS Simply can't convince their pilots to show up in Molden Heath.
 
 This could be an underlying problem with CCP not having good enough incentives for people to partake in these battles, but I believe the problem resonates from a deeper issue. It takes a special type of EVE player to legitimately care about DUST, DNS has a few, most of them are former members of RA, but for the most part, DNS Pilots just don't care about DUST, and why should they. There is no fun one shooting a destroyer, or watching a warp core stabilized destroyer warp away safely. There is no fun for the support fleet who shows up and doesn't drop any orbitals and waits on a quiet empty beacon because their enemy underestimated them and didn't show up with a proper force.
 
 While the actual battle was lost by Top Men. (by no more than 15 or so clones) there was a victory in the sky, a victory that proved having a huge EVE side, is not the same as having an active EVE side that cares about DUST.
 
 It has become apparent, that DNS as a whole doesn't care about DUST.
 
 So fear not, coordinate with "Rebellion" leaders and they will ensure that DNS doesn't bug you guys during your match and if you have a pilot capable of dropping OB's we'll safe guard him too.
 
 
 DNS may now begin their smack talk.
 
 *Edit, I still have respect for the former RA EVE pilots. Hats off to what you do for your guys.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Knight Solitaire
 
 704
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 18:39:00 -
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 Your mom is an EVE Side.
 
 Faigh go maith | 
      
      
        |  Fiddlestaxp
 TeamPlayers
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 760
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 18:56:00 -
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 Always try to catch a Pacquiao fight if I can.
 
 Also: where/wehen/ against who was this battle?
 
 
 Spartacus Dust wrote: Dirt Nap doesn't care about DUST people. 
 You can try to call the alliance out as a whole (and me specifically from your post). Doesn't change the fact that your teams can't hack it on the ground.
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        |  JL3Eleven
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 1841
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 19:11:00 -
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 I guess you failed to realize no matter have many space nerds you have you still cannot win the battle on the ground
  . 
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Balac's MRN-30 Submachine Gun
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        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 319
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 19:28:00 -
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 if we're losing by 10 to 20 clones, once we get bigger clone packs, it'll be you guys who lose the battles on the ground :P Food for thought :P
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  ReGnYuM
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 2736
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 19:40:00 -
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 Oh necromongers....
 
 The Pathway to Hell, is paved with good intentions Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 97.51% Complete | 
      
      
        |  Killar-12
 OLDSPICE.
 Top Men.
 
 2588
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 19:42:00 -
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 JL3Eleven wrote:I guess you failed to realize no matter have many space nerds you have you still cannot win the battle on the ground   . Yep and no matter how many DUST Bunnies you have you'll never get sov... see this works both ways...
 
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        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 319
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 19:46:00 -
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 Fiddlestaxp wrote:Always try to catch a Pacquiao fight if I can. Also: where/wehen/ against who was this battle? Spartacus Dust wrote: Dirt Nap doesn't care about DUST people. You can try to call the alliance out as a whole (and me specifically from your post). Doesn't change the fact that your teams can't hack it on the ground. 
 Sadly I didn't catch the fight though. :(
 
 Our teams can hack, it's always been a matter of clones, you guys just have more, once we have more clones to attack with, the game will change.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 319
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 19:49:00 -
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 Killar-12 wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:I guess you failed to realize no matter have many space nerds you have you still cannot win the battle on the ground   . Yep and no matter how many DUST Bunnies you have you'll never get sov... see this works both ways... 
 LMAO.
 
 +1,000
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  The dark cloud
 The Rainbow Effect
 
 2754
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 20:40:00 -
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 Having OB superiocity doesnt mean that your ground units are winning.
 
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        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 20:52:00 -
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 Spartacus Dust wrote:Last night "Rebel" Forces led a fleet of 15 to show up and provide Orbital Support for Top Men. It wasn't long before DNS arrived in system with 4 pilots who quickly left the system realizing they couldn't do anything.
 What this actually means:
 Despite DNS's HUGE EVE side which is often a bragging point for most alliances with an EVE side. DNS Simply can't convince their pilots to show up in Molden Heath.
 
 This could be an underlying problem with CCP not having good enough incentives for people to partake in these battles, but I believe the problem resonates from a deeper issue. It takes a special type of EVE player to legitimately care about DUST, DNS has a few, most of them are former members of RA, but for the most part, DNS Pilots just don't care about DUST, and why should they. There is no fun one shooting a destroyer, or watching a warp core stabilized destroyer warp away safely. There is no fun for the support fleet who shows up and doesn't drop any orbitals and waits on a quiet empty beacon because their enemy underestimated them and didn't show up with a proper force.
 
 While the actual battle was lost by Top Men. (by no more than 15 or so clones) there was a victory in the sky, a victory that proved having a huge EVE side, is not the same as having an active EVE side that cares about DUST.
 
 It has become apparent, that DNS as a whole doesn't care about DUST.
 
 So fear not, coordinate with "Rebellion" leaders and they will ensure that DNS doesn't bug you guys during your match and if you have a pilot capable of dropping OB's we'll safe guard him too.
 
 
 DNS may now begin their smack talk.
 
 *Edit, I still have respect for the former RA EVE pilots. Hats off to what you do for your guys.
 
 
 
 Sorry to burst your bubble but you were actually going to get a massive dns fleet dropped on you, unfortunately the guys who control the cyno chain lost power due to a tornado in their area. you're more then welcome to try again though.
 
 EVE Character MP2008 | 
      
      
        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 20:54:00 -
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 Killar-12 wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:I guess you failed to realize no matter have many space nerds you have you still cannot win the battle on the ground   . Yep and no matter how many DUST Bunnies you have you'll never get sov... see this works both ways... 
 
 
 Sov is a grind eve side, tbh it sucks. Maintaining eve son is like a job not fun at all.
 
 EVE Character MP2008 | 
      
      
        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 20:56:00 -
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 Also if it's any consolation to you we were just as upset about missing the fight as you were, it would have been a good one.
 
 EVE Character MP2008 | 
      
      
        |  Heimdallr69
 Heaven's Lost Property
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 2061
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 21:02:00 -
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 Knight Solitaire wrote:Your mom is an EVE Side. Lolz, not bad.
 
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        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 319
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 21:04:00 -
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 I would have loved it MP2008, but a cyno wasn't dropped, logistics failed, and DNS continued to roam Curse for the majority of the day as implied by their killboards.
 
 If you do happen to hotdrop the **** out of us with a huge DNS fleet, make sure you fraps it, send it to TheMittani.com so we can bring more attention to the non station/gate game PVP fun that is a PC battle.
 
 
 Hypothetically speaking, having twice as many clones as a result of poor mechanics made by CCP doesn't mean your ground troops are good. Why the CPM hasn't called for a billion hotfixes on this is ridiculous.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 21:08:00 -
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 Spartacus Dust wrote:I would have loved it MP2008, but a cyno wasn't dropped, logistics failed, and DNS continued to roam Curse for the majority of the day as implied by their killboards.
 If you do happen to hotdrop the **** out of us with a huge DNS fleet, make sure you fraps it, send it to TheMittani.com so we can bring more attention to the non station/gate game PVP fun that is a PC battle.
 
 
 Hypothetically speaking, having twice as many clones as a result of poor mechanics made by CCP doesn't mean your ground troops are good. Why the CPM hasn't called for a billion hotfixes on this is ridiculous.
 
 
 
 What makes you think the big power blocs aren't paying attention already? Keep escalating, you'll only screw yourselves in the end. Part of what you say is true, eve pilots want content, if you keep bringing large fleets, people outside of DNS will want in on it too and you'll get stomped. Either way, it's fun for us. bring the fights, we will come. Last night was just unfortunate power loss.
 
 EVE Character MP2008 | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 319
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 21:11:00 -
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 They aren't paying enough attention. We'll keep escalating because we enjoy the fights. I was getting sick of me vs 5 dns pilots, having a fleet to help makes it fun, I expected DNS to bring way more, it doesn't look like they planned to cyno people, it looked like they brought 4 ships that were on their beacon and that's usually been the norm. ohwell
 
 NEXT TIME GADGET, NEXT TIME. see you in oddeluff I think.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 21:14:00 -
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 Spartacus Dust wrote:They aren't paying enough attention. We'll keep escalating because we enjoy the fights. I was getting sick of me vs 5 dns pilots, having a fleet to help makes it fun, I expected DNS to bring way more, it doesn't look like they planned to cyno people, it looked like they brought 4 ships that were on their beacon and that's usually been the norm. ohwell
 NEXT TIME GADGET, NEXT TIME. see you in oddeluff I think.
 
 
 That was just some of the people who live here. the rest were on their way but like I said unfortunately bad weather hampered it. Mother nature man, she's a ***** haha
 
 EVE Character MP2008 | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 320
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 21:22:00 -
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 do you have fraps, I'm on a ****** laptop, could you video tape our fleet fights?
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Fiddlestaxp
 TeamPlayers
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 761
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 21:25:00 -
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 It doesn't matter how many clones Caps and Mercs has. They are no where near as good as a WTF/OH that would actually benefit from increased clone pack size. You could clone pack 20 districts with 400 clones each and you still wouldn't take one. Stop making excuses.
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        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 321
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 21:29:00 -
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 Fiddlestaxp wrote:It doesn't matter how many clones Caps and Mercs has. They are no where near as good as a WTF/OH that would actually benefit from increased clone pack size. You could clone pack 20 districts with 400 clones each and you still wouldn't take one. Stop making excuses. 
 LOLZ if we're only losing by 15/20 clones it's an issue of clone packs. It's easy to make claims at how you are better when you have twice as many clones.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 321
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 21:32:00 -
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 For those of you who don't know Fiddlestax is a paranoid conspiracy theorist, who I upshipped and killed his ships multiple times, for that he is forever mad at me. He freaked out when I was in DNS's teamspeak talking to DNS Black, he is currently trying to find a way around the bounties I placed on him :D
 
 Just like your coercer alone can't beat my vagabond.
 We can't beat you with half your clones.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Fiddlestaxp
 TeamPlayers
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 761
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 21:39:00 -
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 Spartacus Dust wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:It doesn't matter how many clones Caps and Mercs has. They are no where near as good as a WTF/OH that would actually benefit from increased clone pack size. You could clone pack 20 districts with 400 clones each and you still wouldn't take one. Stop making excuses. LOLZ if we're only losing by 15/20 clones it's an issue of clone packs. It's easy to make claims at how you are better when you have twice as many clones. 
 What district are you talking about? And what makes you think that they wouldn't have lost due to MCC?
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        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 322
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 21:46:00 -
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 figure it out for yourself fiddestax, I'm not here to babysit you while you figure out that not everyone in DNS is awesome.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  yep derrith again
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 42
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 21:55:00 -
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 Spartacus Dust wrote:figure it out for yourself fiddestax, I'm not here to babysit you while you figure out that not everyone in DNS is awesome. Au contraire, Spartacus. For you see, everyone in DNS alliance is required to wear these coats.And in the name of absolute ballin', I declare anyone wearing this coat officially awesome.
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        |  Knight Solitaire
 
 711
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 22:43:00 -
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 Last I checked losing by clones is still losing.
 
 Faigh go maith | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 322
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 22:47:00 -
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 And having an EVE side run away and abandon you is still having them run away and abandon you, no matter what the reasons may be. Which brings the question, why did you join an EVE alliance if they were only going to run away? Why not stay in RA, MP2008 and eatsbabies would always fight me back then, what's the point in being in DNS as opposed to your old alliance?
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  MythTanker
 The Phoenix Federation
 Caps and Mercs
 
 70
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 22:48:00 -
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 yep derrith again wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:figure it out for yourself fiddestax, I'm not here to babysit you while you figure out that not everyone in DNS is awesome. Au contraire, Spartacus. For you see, everyone in DNS alliance is required to wear these coats. And in the name of absolute ballin', I declare anyone wearing this coat officially awesome. Thats a bad ass coat, but during WW2 the Germans had cool uniforms, but they still lost. However they controlled most of Europe for some time, but they were stopped by countries banding together. See any parallels? o7
 
 The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton | 
      
      
        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 23:00:00 -
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 Spartacus Dust wrote:And having an EVE side run away and abandon you is still having them run away and abandon you, no matter what the reasons may be. Which brings the question, why did you join an EVE alliance if they were only going to run away? Why not stay in RA, MP2008 and eatsbabies would always fight me back then, what's the point in being in DNS as opposed to your old alliance? 
 
 
 You really have no idea what's really going on. And for strategic reasons it will stay that way. Don't mistake 1 missed battle for a pattern. It's not. We have our own tactics and reasons behind every move we make, whether that means showing up to a fight light, heavy, or not at all. Got an empire to run man, decisions are made.
 
 EVE Character MP2008 | 
      
      
        |  demens grimwulff
 Heaven's Lost Property
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 201
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 23:07:00 -
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 Spartacus Dust wrote:Last night "Rebel" Forces led a fleet of 15 to show up and provide Orbital Support for Top Men. It wasn't long before DNS arrived in system with 4 pilots who quickly left the system realizing they couldn't do anything.
 What this actually means:
 Despite DNS's HUGE EVE side which is often a bragging point for most alliances with an EVE side. DNS Simply can't convince their pilots to show up in Molden Heath.
 
 This could be an underlying problem with CCP not having good enough incentives for people to partake in these battles, but I believe the problem resonates from a deeper issue. It takes a special type of EVE player to legitimately care about DUST, DNS has a few, most of them are former members of RA, but for the most part, DNS Pilots just don't care about DUST, and why should they. There is no fun one shooting a destroyer, or watching a warp core stabilized destroyer warp away safely. There is no fun for the support fleet who shows up and doesn't drop any orbitals and waits on a quiet empty beacon because their enemy underestimated them and didn't show up with a proper force.
 
 While the actual battle was lost by Top Men. (by no more than 15 or so clones) there was a victory in the sky, a victory that proved having a huge EVE side, is not the same as having an active EVE side that cares about DUST.
 
 It has become apparent, that DNS as a whole doesn't care about DUST.
 
 So fear not, coordinate with "Rebellion" leaders and they will ensure that DNS doesn't bug you guys during your match and if you have a pilot capable of dropping OB's we'll safe guard him too.
 
 
 DNS may now begin their smack talk.
 
 *Edit, I still have respect for the former RA EVE pilots. Hats off to what you do for your guys.
 
 IOJOIHUIEQHIFEWUIO(HFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!0.5+05
 
 This is the second time I have agreed with you... and you're still in Necro! Wow... I think you're finally getting the point, but you have still not made the real connection... you're still just posting propaganda for your failed attempts at taking districts. Dust means NOTHING to CCP... or, at least, the PC side. There is no reason for any EvE pilot to ever be at a PC battle and there is no reward for having ownership of districts... it is STRICTLY Dust side isk... which will be worthless once EvE and Dust can have a true monetary exchange. None of us need the money... what benefit do we get from it? We all have enough money to run proto from now, until the servers shut down, or a better game comes along... but what we don't have, is a functioning game mode that we ALL care about. If we didn't care about PC, if we didn't care about the progression of the game, why would we have offered to ring for your corps for so long? Why would we post on the forums offering advice on stuff to fix and how to balance the game mode for corps like yours? You see a tyranny that you think you can win against... we see it as an act of providing the community with a better game mode. When/if we move on and start handing the land back out (or otherwise), we will do so at the understanding that the game has been fixed, and that there is legitimate benefit to owning districts other than a b.s. paycheck.
 
 Why don't you ask some of your "rebel" friends their motivations... and see how long it takes for them to not stutter. Good of the game... yes... lets fight a war over something worthless and ignore the horizon that promises much much more.
 
 As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end | 
      
      
        |  demens grimwulff
 Heaven's Lost Property
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 201
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 23:14:00 -
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 Spartacus Dust wrote:And having an EVE side run away and abandon you is still having them run away and abandon you, no matter what the reasons may be. Which brings the question, why did you join an EVE alliance if they were only going to run away? Why not stay in RA, MP2008 and eatsbabies would always fight me back then, what's the point in being in DNS as opposed to your old alliance? 
 If you lost by clones and you had EvE support I wouldn't continue talking about it... I think it should just end at that... or otherwise you will start looking like this guy.
 
 As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end | 
      
      
        |  Killar-12
 OLDSPICE.
 Top Men.
 
 2591
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.13 23:41:00 -
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 CRUSADER2134 wrote:Killar-12 wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:I guess you failed to realize no matter have many space nerds you have you still cannot win the battle on the ground   . Yep and no matter how many DUST Bunnies you have you'll never get sov... see this works both ways... Sov is a grind eve side, tbh it sucks. Maintaining eve son is like a job not fun at all. *Looks at Renters* lol
 
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        |  Shiyou Hidiyoshi
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 528
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 00:28:00 -
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 * sigh *
 
 I guess I'll have to burst this cocky bubble...
 
 
 
 Spart... your ground guys are getting wrecked and we aren't even trying.
 
 
 Unless you are OH or WTF, then we are not even trying when fighting you guys. We are playing it like a pub... at most.
 
 
 
 Last time I fought Necr0, this was our rule
 
 "No one say anything at all, I want to listen to this podcast. Necr0 are scrubs so we don't even need to pay attention or a plan at all to win." - Our FC
 
 (Podcast was with Kujo, Black, and a few others talking about fanfest and alliance stuff)
 
 
 Guess what, we destroyed you guys without planning at all or talking at all during the fight. We just ran around completely uncoordinated.
 
 After the match, I sent isk to the people I like in Necr0 on the other team as reimbursement while Drake sent Rampage messages stroking his E-peen. "They wouldn't let me carry them"
 
 
 
 I was nice enough not to tell you guys that we literally didn't try and destroyed your team but considering the constant talk about how you will win with more clones... yeah... not happening. Not against AE anyways
 
 
 
 I'm so disappointed with Necr0
 
 I thought you guys would out perform these other corps like PHX but not even close.
 
 PHX is better than Necr0 in my opinion because they actually put up a better fight when we face them. We actually have to plan a little and pay attention a bit more (but still not take it quite seriously).
 
 
 
 There is only one corp I would vouch for that has put up a fight and I notice is getting better and are glad to see they are. KEQ
 
 
 KEQ is underrated in my opinion, if we actually enter the fight joking around not taking anything seriously like we do with you cocky clowns then we might actually lose lol. KEQ is getting good 07
 
 
 
 
 TL:DR
 
 Necr0 has nothing to boast about on the ground because they have performed worse than every other corp attacking us.
 
 I hope you guys get more clones so we can farm some more. FYI... we let you guys take control points a lot of times just so we can farm you.
 
 Hm... maybe I should make my own thread about this and go further into detail... * ponders *
 
 
holds out hand and a swarm of angry mutated salmon cornflakes appear * Attack my children attack! | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 362
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 02:06:00 -
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 Thanks for the TL:DR Yoshi.
 
 As always, things are subject to change, we'll keep fighting you regardless.
 Although if 0H and WTF are your true problems, I suppose I should coordinate with them better to stack timers so your guys can't be everywhere at once. Thanks for the heads up :).
 
 
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 363
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 02:14:00 -
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 CRUSADER2134 wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:And having an EVE side run away and abandon you is still having them run away and abandon you, no matter what the reasons may be. Which brings the question, why did you join an EVE alliance if they were only going to run away? Why not stay in RA, MP2008 and eatsbabies would always fight me back then, what's the point in being in DNS as opposed to your old alliance? You really have no idea what's really going on. And for strategic reasons it will stay that way. Don't mistake 1 missed battle for a pattern. It's not. We have our own tactics and reasons behind every move we make, whether that means showing up to a fight light, heavy, or not at all. Got an empire to run man, decisions are made. 
 
 I have a pretty good idea of what's going on, since I personally approached DNS Black and he gave the low down, and people in your alliance and my alliance are still friends, and people talk about your alliance just as they talk about mine. It happens.
 
 *eats popcorn*
 
 And believe me we didn't mistake 1 missed battle for a pattern, last time you guys only fought against me and a guy who went afk, this time I brought a 15 man fleet. Maybe next time it'll be just me vs 200 guys, maybe not.
 
 Things are subject to change as always.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Timbo101
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 193
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 03:16:00 -
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 Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:
 
 There is only one corp I would vouch for that has put up a fight and I notice is getting better and are glad to see they are. KEQ
 
 
 KEQ is underrated in my opinion, if we actually enter the fight joking around not taking anything seriously like we do with you cocky clowns then we might actually lose lol. KEQ is getting good 07
 
 
 
 
 
  
 You guys wanna talk about Eve? Check out this sick killboard
 
 https://zkillboard.com/character/94379528/
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        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 03:22:00 -
          [37] - Quote 
 
 Spartacus Dust wrote:CRUSADER2134 wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:And having an EVE side run away and abandon you is still having them run away and abandon you, no matter what the reasons may be. Which brings the question, why did you join an EVE alliance if they were only going to run away? Why not stay in RA, MP2008 and eatsbabies would always fight me back then, what's the point in being in DNS as opposed to your old alliance? You really have no idea what's really going on. And for strategic reasons it will stay that way. Don't mistake 1 missed battle for a pattern. It's not. We have our own tactics and reasons behind every move we make, whether that means showing up to a fight light, heavy, or not at all. Got an empire to run man, decisions are made. I have a pretty good idea of what's going on, since I personally approached DNS Black and he gave the low down, and people in your alliance and my alliance are still friends, and people talk about your alliance just as they talk about mine. It happens. *eats popcorn* And believe me we didn't mistake 1 missed battle for a pattern, last time you guys only fought against me and a guy who went afk, this time I brought a 15 man fleet. Maybe next time it'll be just me vs 200 guys, maybe not. Things are subject to change as always. 
 
 
 It's like playing phone tag, you bring a large fleet, we don't have one, we bring a large fleet, you don't have one. One of these nights something epic will happen.
 
 EVE Character MP2008 | 
      
      
        |  Lunatic Kota
 TeamPlayers
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 135
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 03:23:00 -
          [38] - Quote 
 
 Spartacus Dust wrote:Thanks for the TL:DR Yoshi.
 As always, things are subject to change, we'll keep fighting you regardless.
 Although if 0H and WTF are your true problems, I suppose I should coordinate with them better to stack timers so your guys can't be everywhere at once. Thanks for the heads up :).
 
 
 
 I guess you guys forgot we don't have just "one" team.
 
 If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly. -David Hackworth | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 364
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 03:43:00 -
          [39] - Quote 
 you have one A-Team apparently, because everyone in your alliance when they get stomped they claim that wasn't their A-team and how they would have beat us if they were there. It's funny how many times your players call themselves part of the A-Team and other members say "That wasn't our A-Team, if I was there we would have won".
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Marlin Kirby
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 388
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 04:03:00 -
          [40] - Quote 
 
 Timbo101 wrote:Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:
 
 There is only one corp I would vouch for that has put up a fight and I notice is getting better and are glad to see they are. KEQ
 
 
 KEQ is underrated in my opinion, if we actually enter the fight joking around not taking anything seriously like we do with you cocky clowns then we might actually lose lol. KEQ is getting good 07
 
 
 
  You guys wanna talk about Eve? Check out this sick killboardhttps://zkillboard.com/character/94379528/ 
 You should take notes from APP. At least he got a kill.
 
 The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<-- | 
      
      
        |  Timbo101
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 194
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 04:08:00 -
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 Marlin Kirby wrote:Timbo101 wrote:Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:
 
 There is only one corp I would vouch for that has put up a fight and I notice is getting better and are glad to see they are. KEQ
 
 
 KEQ is underrated in my opinion, if we actually enter the fight joking around not taking anything seriously like we do with you cocky clowns then we might actually lose lol. KEQ is getting good 07
 
 
 
  You guys wanna talk about Eve? Check out this sick killboardhttps://zkillboard.com/character/94379528/ You should take notes from APP. At least he got a kill. 
 Hey i have a killmail, its on one of Tarn's kills, 4.9% baby!! For some reason it isnt on any 3rd party sites but its in my bio.
 
 So I'm gonna count it
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        |  Marlin Kirby
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 389
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 04:20:00 -
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 Timbo101 wrote:
 Hey i have a killmail, its on one of Tarn's kills, 4.9% baby!! For some reason it isnt on any 3rd party sites but its in my bio.
 
 So I'm gonna count it
 
 Pix or it didn't happen!
 
 The not Logic Bomb! -->We need better comms!<-- | 
      
      
        |  Viktor Hadah Jr
 Critical-Impact
 
 3428
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 07:33:00 -
          [43] - Quote 
 :/ i pew pew around molden heath now and then i would like to kill DNS members because they generally bring better fights but at the end of the day i'll just shot whoever shows up on my overview.
 
 Selling Dust ISK Sir Hadah for CPM | 
      
      
        |  Fiddlestaxp
 TeamPlayers
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 764
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 07:43:00 -
          [44] - Quote 
 
 Viktor Hadah Jr wrote::/ i pew pew around molden heath now and then i would like to kill DNS members because they generally bring better fights but at the end of the day i'll just shot whoever shows up on my overview. 
 Viktor taught me that my coercer, as I had fitted it, wasn't well suited to killing his slicer. Lesson learned.
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        |  Void Echo
 Total Extinction
 
 2407
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 08:37:00 -
          [45] - Quote 
 Dirt Nap Squad controls Dust through fear, you must destroy a symbol of that fear or hold up long enough against it to inspire others to your cause.
 
 Youtube Closed Beta Vet CEO: Total Extinction | 
      
      
        |  Viktor Hadah Jr
 Critical-Impact
 
 3428
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 08:42:00 -
          [46] - Quote 
 
 Void Echo wrote:Dirt Nap Squad controls Dust through fear, you must destroy a symbol of that fear or hold up long enough against it to inspire others to your cause. wat?
 
 What kind of fear does DNS have over anyone? what are people afraid off? there is so little DNS can do to many of these alliances/corps that they have no done already.
 
 Selling Dust ISK Sir Hadah for CPM | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 372
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 08:44:00 -
          [47] - Quote 
 "WE'LL SHOW THE WORLD EVEN A GOD KING CAN BLEED"
 
 https://zkillboard.com/detail/38181036/
 
 Nothing special about the kill other than the person flying the ship. Just another day in Caps and Mercs.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Void Echo
 Total Extinction
 
 2407
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 08:56:00 -
          [48] - Quote 
 
 Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Void Echo wrote:Dirt Nap Squad controls Dust through fear, you must destroy a symbol of that fear or hold up long enough against it to inspire others to your cause. wat? What kind of fear does DNS have over anyone? what are people afraid off? there is so little DNS can do to many of these alliances/corps that they have no done already. 
 
 wow.... you actually took what I posted seriously?
 
 since I saw OP mention "Rebellion" in the title, I was reminded of star wars because the empire fights the rebellion and loses.
 
 I took the phrase you see in my first post from one of the star wars the force unleashed games when Vader tells Gallen Marek "The Emperor controls the galaxy through fear, you must destroy a symbol of that fear, so that others will rally to your cause in order to oppose him."
 
 that's not the entire quote vader says but its close enough and there aren't that many references between whats going on here and what happened there but I worked with what I had.
 
 
 What can I say? I though it would be funny and it was for me.
 
 Youtube Closed Beta Vet CEO: Total Extinction | 
      
      
        |  Shiyou Hidiyoshi
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 532
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 10:45:00 -
          [49] - Quote 
 
 Spartacus Dust wrote:Thanks for the TL:DR Yoshi.
 As always, things are subject to change, we'll keep fighting you regardless.
 Although if 0H and WTF are your true problems, I suppose I should coordinate with them better to stack timers so your guys can't be everywhere at once. Thanks for the heads up :).
 
 
 OH and WTF are not "true problems"
 
 Everyone in the alliance is like "yeah whatever" Too lazy to care
 
 Everyone is fighting their own fights, we aren't having one giant ringing bananza.
 
 
 
 
 If you want advice, then here is some.
 
 
 Do NOT start doing massive attacks and stacking timers.
 
 
 People in our alliance love war (especially AE), if a lot of attacks happen then we will become extremely active again.
 
 
 History lesson
 
 OH and Pradox attacked every single district AE had.
 
 Result: We literally cheered when it happened and as word got out, everyone became VERY active on Dust. We had people playing 15 PC matches a day and they loved it.
 
 
 
 
 TL:DR
 
 FA, AE, TP, and Escrow love war so don't think stacking us with OH and WTF fights is going to cause us any problems. OH and WTF do put up a fight but when the team they are fighting actually cares and organizes a good team from their own corp, things don't go well for them. Just ask OH, they got destroyed very badly during the ProV Vs RA war when they fought AE's A team because AE decided to actually get together a great team. AE won that fight without even coming close to losing shields and killed a lot of clones. We have A LOT of teams but the truth is, NO ONE in any of the attacks launched has seen FA's A team, AE's A team, Escrow's A team, or TP's A team. Right now, you are fighting whoever cares enough to even show up.
 
 I'll tell ya one thing, if you want a war without seeing me at all, wait until June. I'm getting ESO awwwwwwwwwww yeah!
 
 
holds out hand and a swarm of angry mutated salmon cornflakes appear * Attack my children attack! | 
      
      
        |  Lunatic Kota
 TeamPlayers
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 142
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 11:26:00 -
          [50] - Quote 
 
 Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Thanks for the TL:DR Yoshi.
 As always, things are subject to change, we'll keep fighting you regardless.
 Although if 0H and WTF are your true problems, I suppose I should coordinate with them better to stack timers so your guys can't be everywhere at once. Thanks for the heads up :).
 
 
 OH and WTF are not "true problems" Everyone in the alliance is like "yeah whatever" Too lazy to care Everyone is fighting their own fights, we aren't having one giant ringing bananza. If you want advice, then here is some. Do NOT start doing massive attacks and stacking timers. People in our alliance love war (especially AE), if a lot of attacks happen then we will become extremely active again.History lesson OH and Pradox attacked every single district AE had. Result: We literally cheered when it happened and as word got out, everyone became VERY active on Dust. We had people playing 15 PC matches a day and they loved it. TL:DR FA, AE, TP, and Escrow love war so don't think stacking us with OH and WTF fights is going to cause us any problems. OH and WTF do put up a fight but when the team they are fighting actually cares and organizes a good team from their own corp, things don't go well for them. Just ask OH, they got destroyed very badly during the ProV Vs RA war when they fought AE's A team because AE decided to actually get together a great team. AE won that fight without even coming close to losing shields and killed a lot of clones. We have A LOT of teams but the truth is, NO ONE in any of the attacks launched has seen FA's A team, AE's A team, Escrow's A team, or TP's A team. Right now, you are fighting whoever cares enough to even show up. I'll tell ya one thing, if you want a war without seeing me at all, wait until June. I'm getting ESO awwwwwwwwwww yeah! 
 I miss the twins.
 
 If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly. -David Hackworth | 
      
      
        |  Spectral Clone
 Dust2Dust.
 Top Men.
 
 2229
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 14:47:00 -
          [51] - Quote 
 Prepare the LuLzCannons o7
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        |  TechMechMeds
 SWAMPERIUM
 
 3049
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 15:31:00 -
          [52] - Quote 
 
 Killar-12 wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:I guess you failed to realize no matter have many space nerds you have you still cannot win the battle on the ground   . Yep and no matter how many DUST Bunnies you have you'll never get sov... see this works both ways... 
 This is quality.
 
 If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been. | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 378
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 16:36:00 -
          [53] - Quote 
 For the record my guys like war too, imagine that, they sign on and play a war game. Hence why we attack.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Zatara Rought
 Fatal Absolution
 
 2556
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 16:43:00 -
          [54] - Quote 
 Someone pass the popcorn pl0x?
 
 CEO of FA B3RT>PFBHz>TP>IMP>FA Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought | 
      
      
        |  TechMechMeds
 SWAMPERIUM
 
 3049
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 16:49:00 -
          [55] - Quote 
 
 Zatara Rought wrote:Someone pass the popcorn pl0x? 
 Cyrax Servius has popcorn.
 
 If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been. | 
      
      
        |  yep derrith again
 Shining Flame
 Amarr Empire
 
 74
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 16:49:00 -
          [56] - Quote 
 
 Zatara Rought wrote:Someone pass the popcorn pl0x? We're out of popcorn, here, have some skittles.
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        |  ANON Cerberus
 Tiny Toons
 
 499
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 17:05:00 -
          [57] - Quote 
 lol like DNS has any sway in EVE. If they even did become a problem eve side (which they probably wont because like you say most EVE players do not like dust) I am sure there are many other eve players that would like to kill DNS ships.
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        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 17:07:00 -
          [58] - Quote 
 DNS has a lot of sway in EVE. That's why DNS Black goes to fanfest, does the alliance panels, and has his own rooms to talk about stuff to the community during fanfest given by CCP
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Arunis Gen
 G I A N T
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 149
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 20:33:00 -
          [59] - Quote 
 I asked DNSBlack if he would perform Honourable 1v1 frigate (noobship) fight with me and what the chances were he would fit a cyno to it. He said none but commented that he would use his devhax to fit a covert cyno.
 
 DNSBlack is too OP. You cannot fight it. Give up.
 
 
  ~_~-G I A N T for Life-~_~
 ~_~-Head Diplomat-~_~
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        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 36
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 22:10:00 -
          [60] - Quote 
 
 ANON Cerberus wrote:lol like DNS has any sway in EVE. If they even did become a problem eve side (which they probably wont because like you say most EVE players do not like dust) I am sure there are many other eve players that would like to kill DNS ships. 
 
 
 Lol, you're an idiot. Do some research.
 
 EVE Character MP2008 | 
      
      
        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 36
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 22:17:00 -
          [61] - Quote 
 
 ANON Cerberus wrote:lol like DNS has any sway in EVE. If they even did become a problem eve side (which they probably wont because like you say most EVE players do not like dust) I am sure there are many other eve players that would like to kill DNS ships. 
 
 as a matter of fact, I can't even begin to tell you how stupid that comment is and how wrong it is. If you don't believe me come fly in molden heath for a district fight. I'll wait.....
 
 EVE Character MP2008 | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 381
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 22:19:00 -
          [62] - Quote 
 MP2008 can you see if any of your guys can fraps?
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 36
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 22:21:00 -
          [63] - Quote 
 
 Spartacus Dust wrote:MP2008 can you see if any of your guys can fraps? 
 
 I'll ask but I doubt it.
 
 EVE Character MP2008 | 
      
      
        |  THUNDERGROOVE
 Fatal Absolution
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 663
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 23:49:00 -
          [64] - Quote 
 
 Spartacus Dust wrote:if we're losing by 10 to 20 clones, once we get bigger clone packs, it'll be you guys who lose the battles on the ground :P Food for thought :P That would imply you guys could hold points.
 Go back to spamming heavies in pubs, you're better at it.
 
 Running at 10.6 m/s ak.0 Projects: TDBS | SDETool Flaylocks are fine | 
      
      
        |  Knight Solitaire
 
 728
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.14 23:51:00 -
          [65] - Quote 
 I think you may be lost friend
 
 Faigh dea "Knight Soiaire has the best RE Game" - Crimson Moon V | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 385
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.15 02:05:00 -
          [66] - Quote 
 Well DNS Showed up finally with a better fleet. Was really surprised, they killed my one ship...I killed one of theirs, they just brought too many good ships, for you Dust players, we had militia suits, they were all proto.
 
 Though I believe the reason they actually showed up had more to do with the fact they were losing face in this topic. Half the members were former RA pilots, which as stated I said I had respect for.
 
 No matter the reason, they showed up, so credit is due.
 
 Though I think it's funny they got trapped by pirates.
 
 Prepared for the op: 1 hour
 Moved to the location: 10 minutes
 Sat on district: 15 minutes
 Left stuck in a system due to pirates: 30+ Minutes
 
 I'm sure DNS pilots will get use to enjoying that routine.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Roman837
 Dem Durrty Boyz
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 229
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.15 02:06:00 -
          [67] - Quote 
 
 Spartacus Dust wrote:Last night "Rebel" Forces led a fleet of 15 to show up and provide Orbital Support for Top Men. It wasn't long before DNS arrived in system with 4 pilots who quickly left the system realizing they couldn't do anything.
 What this actually means:
 Despite DNS's HUGE EVE side which is often a bragging point for most alliances with an EVE side. DNS Simply can't convince their pilots to show up in Molden Heath.
 
 This could be an underlying problem with CCP not having good enough incentives for people to partake in these battles, but I believe the problem resonates from a deeper issue. It takes a special type of EVE player to legitimately care about DUST, DNS has a few, most of them are former members of RA, but for the most part, DNS Pilots just don't care about DUST, and why should they. There is no fun one shooting a destroyer, or watching a warp core stabilized destroyer warp away safely. There is no fun for the support fleet who shows up and doesn't drop any orbitals and waits on a quiet empty beacon because their enemy underestimated them and didn't show up with a proper force.
 
 While the actual battle was lost by Top Men. (by no more than 15 or so clones) there was a victory in the sky, a victory that proved having a huge EVE side, is not the same as having an active EVE side that cares about DUST.
 
 It has become apparent, that DNS as a whole doesn't care about DUST.
 
 So fear not, coordinate with "Rebellion" leaders and they will ensure that DNS doesn't bug you guys during your match and if you have a pilot capable of dropping OB's we'll safe guard him too.
 
 
 DNS may now begin their smack talk.
 
 *Edit, I still have respect for the former RA EVE pilots. Hats off to what you do for your guys.
 
 
 
 Care to rephrase any of this after tonights demonstration of commitment? It appears, that the members of Cap and Mercs EVE side do NOT care about dust...as they failed to show up. We had 25 members in our fleet.
 
 Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Characters, Julius Romulus Liskus, Cesar Sousa | 
      
      
        |  Roman837
 Dem Durrty Boyz
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 229
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.15 02:08:00 -
          [68] - Quote 
 
 Spartacus Dust wrote:Well DNS Showed up finally with a better fleet. Was really surprised, they killed my one ship...I killed one of theirs, they just brought too many good ships, for you Dust players, we had militia suits, they were all proto.
 Though I believe the reason they actually showed up had more to do with the fact they were losing face in this topic. Half the members were former RA pilots, which as stated I said I had respect for.
 
 No matter the reason, they showed up, so credit is due.
 
 Though I think it's funny they got trapped by pirates.
 
 Prepared for the op: 1 hour
 Moved to the location: 10 minutes
 Killed ships: 1
 Sat on district: 15 minutes while one guy drops orbitals.
 Gets baited off district: 1 minute
 Left stuck in a system due to pirates: 30+ Minutes
 
 I'm sure DNS pilots will get use to enjoying that routine.
 
 
 LOLOLOLOL, oh. sad sad sad misinformed pilot.
 
 
 Edit, notice he said pirates, not anyone allied or involved in with Dust, well done, you wasted your isk buying them
 
 Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Characters, Julius Romulus Liskus, Cesar Sousa | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 385
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.15 02:09:00 -
          [69] - Quote 
 We showed up, you had like 12 people in the system, we killed one, you killed one. My guys know I care, and the "rebellion" knows I care, you guys did that and straight to reply here, proving you only did it to save face, you couldn't fleet that 9/10 times and you know it. The former RA pilots and new joins are the only ones that care.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Roman837
 Dem Durrty Boyz
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 229
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.15 02:12:00 -
          [70] - Quote 
 
 Spartacus Dust wrote:We showed up, you had like 12 people in the system, we killed one, you killed one. My guys know I care, and the "rebellion" knows I care, you guys did that and straight to reply here, proving you only did it to save face, you couldn't fleet that 9/10 times and you know it. The former RA pilots and new joins are the only ones that care. 
 
 Your wrong man, just because its taking TIME for our guys to start showing up. Its new content for them, not what they are use to, but...they are starting to love it. Your so short sided and quick to judge and mak stupid posts. You are the one who is losing face.
 
 Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Characters, Julius Romulus Liskus, Cesar Sousa | 
      
      
        |  Roman837
 Dem Durrty Boyz
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 229
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.15 02:40:00 -
          [71] - Quote 
 Spartacus Dust - Please check EVE kill Boards...that 30minutes that you bragged about saying we were "trapped" No...Once again proof of how wrong you were. We were setting up a Cyno...for a hot drop. Ya...fleet doubled in size...we were hoping you would be there to enjoy the fun...but..you docked up, then logged off. Was a GF in space. Great support from DNS pilots, Thank you all for showing.
 
 Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Characters, Julius Romulus Liskus, Cesar Sousa | 
      
      
        |  Fiddlestaxp
 TeamPlayers
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 771
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.15 02:42:00 -
          [72] - Quote 
 CI is great... Where were you when we were fighting them Matthew?
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        |  Killar-12
 OLDSPICE.
 Top Men.
 
 2598
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.15 02:57:00 -
          [73] - Quote 
 
 Roman837 wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:We showed up, you had like 12 people in the system, we killed one, you killed one. My guys know I care, and the "rebellion" knows I care, you guys did that and straight to reply here, proving you only did it to save face, you couldn't fleet that 9/10 times and you know it. The former RA pilots and new joins are the only ones that care. Your wrong man, just because its taking TIME for our guys to start showing up. Its new content for them, not what they are use to, but...they are starting to love it. Your so short sided and quick to judge and mak stupid posts. You are the one who is losing face. Roman I've worked with both of you, I'd be willing to state that Ex-RA/NF pilots like you care 100% more than the DNS guys, I mean why should the DNS guys care other than for fights?
 
 How to Leave PC | 
      
      
        |  Killar-12
 OLDSPICE.
 Top Men.
 
 2598
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.15 03:00:00 -
          [74] - Quote 
 
 Roman837 wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Last night "Rebel" Forces led a fleet of 15 to show up and provide Orbital Support for Top Men. It wasn't long before DNS arrived in system with 4 pilots who quickly left the system realizing they couldn't do anything.
 What this actually means:
 Despite DNS's HUGE EVE side which is often a bragging point for most alliances with an EVE side. DNS Simply can't convince their pilots to show up in Molden Heath.
 
 This could be an underlying problem with CCP not having good enough incentives for people to partake in these battles, but I believe the problem resonates from a deeper issue. It takes a special type of EVE player to legitimately care about DUST, DNS has a few, most of them are former members of RA, but for the most part, DNS Pilots just don't care about DUST, and why should they. There is no fun one shooting a destroyer, or watching a warp core stabilized destroyer warp away safely. There is no fun for the support fleet who shows up and doesn't drop any orbitals and waits on a quiet empty beacon because their enemy underestimated them and didn't show up with a proper force.
 
 While the actual battle was lost by Top Men. (by no more than 15 or so clones) there was a victory in the sky, a victory that proved having a huge EVE side, is not the same as having an active EVE side that cares about DUST.
 
 It has become apparent, that DNS as a whole doesn't care about DUST.
 
 So fear not, coordinate with "Rebellion" leaders and they will ensure that DNS doesn't bug you guys during your match and if you have a pilot capable of dropping OB's we'll safe guard him too.
 
 
 DNS may now begin their smack talk.
 
 *Edit, I still have respect for the former RA EVE pilots. Hats off to what you do for your guys.
 Care to rephrase any of this after tonights demonstration of commitment? It appears, that the members of Cap and Mercs EVE side do NOT care about dust...as they failed to show up. We had 25 members in our fleet. Can you both duke it out on the ground? OR can I at least fight you on the ground tonight Roman?
 
 How to Leave PC | 
      
      
        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 36
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.15 03:46:00 -
          [75] - Quote 
 I would like point out that I fight the PCs in space because I enjoy the fights.... not because im getting any tangible benefits from it.
 
 Matthew Dust. We were never trapped. Check out the Killboard, CI lost about 10 cruisers to us or something like that. Was a great fight.
 
 EVE Character MP2008 | 
      
      
        |  Spartacus Dust
 NECROM0NGERS
 Caps and Mercs
 
 387
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.15 04:01:00 -
          [76] - Quote 
 Sorry I came out to engage you guys, came to the district, almost killed the orbital support if it wasn't for those damn logi's, you all docked up, then I went off to spend time with my fianc+¬, I guess you guys fought 7-2 while I was gone, would have loved to have been there, but after the PC our pilots (mostly from the EU time zone) were tired and logged off.
 
 Like I said I only credit former RA members. I still maintain that DNS pilots really don't care.
 
 Twitter @Matthew_Dust Executor of Caps and Mercs Alliance. | 
      
      
        |  Fiddlestaxp
 TeamPlayers
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 771
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.15 04:15:00 -
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 Spartacus Dust wrote:Sorry I came out to engage you guys, came to the district, almost killed the orbital support if it wasn't for those damn logi's, you all docked up, then I went off to spend time with my fianc+¬, I guess you guys fought 7-2 while I was gone, would have loved to have been there, but after the PC our pilots (mostly from the EU time zone) were tired and logged off.
 Like I said I only credit former RA members. I still maintain that DNS pilots really don't care.
 
 The more you run your mouth and make excuses, the more care you create. The more you get the relevant forces (7-2) involved, the more you pique the interests of those that have other things to do. Like all decentralized groups, DNS members display a wide array of feelings towards the dust fights. You are doing a great job aligning those feelings.
 
 We have been straight up with broader DNS... We have told them our teams don't need OBs to stomp any one of your teams. They continue to show up regardless, because once in a while a solid opportunity presents itself and it is great for building unity within the organization.
 
 Perhaps I will change the timers yet later, so that I might take advantage of the intel you have shared with me. We might not even show up next time though. Have fun wit the late nights bud. I think ill do that now.
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        |  Spartacus Dust
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 04:15:00 -
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 Still Hats off to the former RA guys,
 
 You guys maintained orbital superiority, but like I said, you won't always have fleets like that, 9/10 you only have former RA guys, not the DNS people who showed up probably as a direct result of this thread or maybe it was our fleet beating yours twice in a row, who knows... so brag all you want and savor your "victory" (you lost the isk war thanks to the kitsune pilot/we lost the isk war on the ground, but that was to be expected with only 120 clones)
 
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        |  Spartacus Dust
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 04:17:00 -
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 Fiddlestaxp wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:Sorry I came out to engage you guys, came to the district, almost killed the orbital support if it wasn't for those damn logi's, you all docked up, then I went off to spend time with my fianc+¬, I guess you guys fought 7-2 while I was gone, would have loved to have been there, but after the PC our pilots (mostly from the EU time zone) were tired and logged off.
 Like I said I only credit former RA members. I still maintain that DNS pilots really don't care.
 The more you run your mouth and make excuses, the more care you create. The more you get the relevant forces (7-2) involved, the more you pique the interests of those that have other things to do. Like all decentralized groups, DNS members display a wide array of feelings towards the dust fights. You are doing a great job aligning those feelings.  We have been straight up with broader DNS... We have told them our teams don't need OBs to stomp any one of your teams. They continue to show up regardless, because once in a while a solid opportunity presents itself and it is great for building unity within the organization.  Perhaps I will change the timers yet later, so that I might take advantage of the intel you have shared with me. We might not even show up next time though. Have fun wit the late nights bud. I think ill do that now. 
 LMAO "they continue to show up reguardless" half the time it's you fiddlestax. Feel free to change the timers you'll only play more into other time zones :D
 
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        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 04:27:00 -
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        |  Spartacus Dust
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 04:32:00 -
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 Quote:You are doing a great job aligning those feelings.  
 I'm glad my smack talk made DNS Pilots suddenly care more (because they didn't) and DNS Black pay more attention.
 
 But seriously, participation on DNS's side was most likely a direct result of this thread. As soon as the match was over my mailbox had this:
 
 "From: Julius Romulus Liskus
 Sent: 2014.04.15 01:49
 To: Matthew Dust,
 
 Hope you update your forum posts, for DNS fleet dedication."
 
 Take care guys! Looking forward to when my fleet is as strong as yours.
 
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        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 04:44:00 -
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 your posts have no bearing on the DNS fleet. 99% of them don't even know who you are.
 
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        |  Spartacus Dust
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 05:35:00 -
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 CRUSADER2134 wrote:your posts have no bearing on the DNS fleet. 99% of them don't even know who you are. 
 <--pretty much mad you brought 3 tech 2 logi ships, though it did save the coercer on my suicide attempt to kill it :P.
 
 It was a pleasure seeing you. Again I maintain my stance, former RA pilots in high regards, DNS is just...DNS... No more impressive than if we brought CODE. -_-
 
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        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 05:45:00 -
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 Spartacus Dust wrote:CRUSADER2134 wrote:your posts have no bearing on the DNS fleet. 99% of them don't even know who you are. <--pretty much mad you brought 3 tech 2 logi ships , though it did save the coercer on my suicide attempt to kill it :P. 
 
 
 you had a battlecruiser fleet, shoulda fought us lol
 
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        |  Spartacus Dust
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 06:16:00 -
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 we had a cruiser fleet, I had a battlecruiser, and we would never be able to break the reps of those 3 oneros :P
 
 Well played, I was just frustrated. You guys had everything covered, ewar, logi, dps, orbital. Sadly our pilots are still newish, so we're not at that level yet.
 
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        |  CRUSADER2134
 Ancient Exiles.
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 06:25:00 -
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 I saw cuskus in a myrmidon!
 
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        |  Spartacus Dust
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 06:48:00 -
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 That was earlier when me and him were testing fits :P
 
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        |  VALCORE72
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 10:19:00 -
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 well this sure got the anal bead boys in a uproar lol
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        |  Roman837
 Dem Durrty Boyz
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 15:08:00 -
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 Post my entire message, do not alter it Spartacus. Nice try tho, when I log on EVE tonight, ill be sure to copy and paste the entire thing. I a nutshell I said. That I hope he stops talking smack, and that I hope he updates this thread, because he said we are not dedicated. And guess what, we are!
 
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        |  CRUSADER2134
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 16:47:00 -
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 VALCORE72 wrote:well this sure got the anal bead boys in a uproar lol 
 
 
 
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        |  Spartacus Dust
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      | Posted - 2014.04.15 18:46:00 -
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 Roman837 wrote:Post my entire message, do not alter it Spartacus. Nice try tho, when I log on EVE tonight, ill be sure to copy and paste the entire thing. I a nutshell I said. That I hope he stops talking smack, and that I hope he updates this thread, because he said we are not dedicated. And guess what, we are! 
 again I give credit to former RA pilots. Not DNS.
 
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        |  Spartacus Dust
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      | Posted - 2014.04.17 02:03:00 -
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 ETEM, so now after more than just one time, I can finally say DNS pilots are starting to be active in MH. Today was an especially good day to see them in my home system.
 
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        |  Stiddlefaxq
 Vherokior Combat Logistics
 Minmatar Republic
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.17 03:11:00 -
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 Was a good fight. I had the guy that jumped in on my list of likely 7-2 alts, but we wanted to fight something. Second he jumped in it was "wait for the cyno". Killed a lot of drones anyway :/
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.17 03:14:00 -
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 Fiddlestaxp wrote:Always try to catch a Pacquiao fight if I can. Also: where/wehen/ against who was this battle? Spartacus Dust wrote: Dirt Nap doesn't care about DUST people. You can try to call the alliance out as a whole (and me specifically from your post). Doesn't change the fact that your teams can't hack it on the ground. 
 Fair call...... but if your corporations were so invested in competition, and supposedly the best corps in the game.......why are you blued up.....yet again......?
 
 It makes no sense to me.
 
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        |  yep derrith again
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      | Posted - 2014.04.17 03:27:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:Always try to catch a Pacquiao fight if I can. Also: where/wehen/ against who was this battle? Spartacus Dust wrote: Dirt Nap doesn't care about DUST people. You can try to call the alliance out as a whole (and me specifically from your post). Doesn't change the fact that your teams can't hack it on the ground. Fair call...... but if your corporations were so invested in competition, and supposedly the best corps in the game.......why are you blued up.....yet again......? It makes no sense to me. On a personal note, I never said I wanted any good fights, or competition. I just wanted to sit back and farm Isk. Hey, you all may look at me like
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        |  Spartacus Dust
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      | Posted - 2014.04.18 23:06:00 -
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 It certainly was a good fight I suppose considering we didn't lose a single ship :P
 
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        |  Benjamin Ciscko
 Fatal Absolution
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.18 23:34:00 -
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 yep derrith again wrote:True Adamance wrote:Fiddlestaxp wrote:Always try to catch a Pacquiao fight if I can. Also: where/wehen/ against who was this battle? Spartacus Dust wrote: Dirt Nap doesn't care about DUST people. You can try to call the alliance out as a whole (and me specifically from your post). Doesn't change the fact that your teams can't hack it on the ground. Fair call...... but if your corporations were so invested in competition, and supposedly the best corps in the game.......why are you blued up.....yet again......? It makes no sense to me. On a personal note, I never said I wanted any good fights, or competition. I just wanted to sit back and farm Isk. Hey, you all may look at me like   , but at least I'm honest. I wanted both the ISK and good fights unfortunately only WTF on a good day and maybe OH can provide the latter.
 
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