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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
119
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:19:00 -
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Hi guys. A casual 20m SP dustie here.
I just had my daily match, and got stomped again. So far so normal. Instead of de-pressurize by a juicy rant, I want instead to use my rage and hate and despair, and channel it productively.
What is your best tactic, when you get stomped?
Mine was so far to get into solo scout/sniper mode, keep putting an uplink infrastructure around a chosen objective and snipe guard it. If the enemy chooses another place to milk the team for WP and ISK, I make a quick hack and gtfo. So I want to die as little as possible, just to not give them the kills. In domination and ambush I dont see any chances, so the only thing left is sniping (now that the forge is a non-entity the only thing left for that is the SR). But I see that this is lame, so are there any other alternatives to go 1/15 and get so annoyed that you wont ever play again?
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Casual solo
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1638
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:20:00 -
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If you have more than 2 mercy in your squad on mic then just call in 3 tanks and the stomp will soon turn into a proto filled shooting gallery
Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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Jastad
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
702
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:20:00 -
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Grab a Forge gun.
Aim for the proto wearing.
Make them pay for their protostomping.
Cal.Heavy-Min.Heavy-Amarr.Heavy
Believe in the FORGE, young padawans
SoloDoloreSuCharlie
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
515
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:24:00 -
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Don't play solo, best tactic there is. If you are ever so inclined to play solo I recommend stealthy picking off playing running to/from objectives. As an alternative to this you could always spawn camp them at a CRU/uplink. Nothing upsets a protobear more than being spawn killed. Chances of you winning a match while playing solo is slim to none, unless you just so happen to be on a team with mostly full squads. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1880
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:27:00 -
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i hop into my ADS....
******* can try to shoot me down but im going to take my price in dead protos from them.
they have the most luck knocking me into terrain and orbitaling me when i land for ammo :P thats a good 2/3rds of my deaths right there. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
997
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:28:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:i hop into my ADS....
******* can try to shoot me down but im going to take my price in dead protos from them.
they have the most luck knocking me into terrain and orbitaling me when i land for ammo :P thats a good 2/3rds of my deaths right there. I never die getting ammo
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1880
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:33:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:i hop into my ADS....
******* can try to shoot me down but im going to take my price in dead protos from them.
they have the most luck knocking me into terrain and orbitaling me when i land for ammo :P thats a good 2/3rds of my deaths right there. I never die getting ammo
youve never had zatara sit...and wait... and perfectly time the dam thing just to kill you off before.
i diddnt die... just lost the ship in that lag time before the afterburner kicked and and superlaunched me off the ground. me and my gunner survived teh OB to call in ship number 2 and finish the game with no deaths :P |
Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
482
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:33:00 -
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I play solo most of the time which includes being stomped every second match.
Personally, in every match I use a Scout suit to set up uplinks with nanohives in locations that are suitable for blueberries to get into the fight without being spawn-trapped and also suitable for AV (hence the nanohives). When my team gets stomped I try to keep the HAVs from our home-spawn with an AFG and support any blue advances by periodically changing to an assault suit. If the next supply depot is too far away I'll just charge in with the AFG. CQC-Forgegunning can be fun.
Generally the presence of a well positioned AFG is enough to keep the enemy HAVs from the top of the scoreboard which greatly reduces the effectiveness of the stomp. |
Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
148
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:43:00 -
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OP you want tactic?
Get yourself scout with shotty. Fit 2damps and cloak (or 1 if gallente) and you can kill everything.
Btw more stomping is good.. i lastly cant find good proto squads on other side :/. More proto (enemy side) means bigger payouts, more fun, also small amount of deaths (if you can play as a scout, 1-4deaths max) |
Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
119
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:44:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Don't play solo, best tactic there is. If you are ever so inclined to play solo I recommend stealthy picking off playing running to/from objectives. As an alternative to this you could always spawn camp them at a CRU/uplink. Nothing upsets a protobear more than being spawn killed. Chances of you winning a match while playing solo is slim to none, unless you just so happen to be on a team with mostly full squads.
Winning is not the important thing for me. I just want to have a fun fight. In my experience that is, the more even the match is, the more fun it is. And I have made a promise to myself: Never quit a match because of getting stomped. Find a way to adjust instead, find a tactic that is fun and viable.
So today I didnt play solo, but that just made it worse, because the squad did tend to stick together and got wiped that much easier. 6 casuals < 6 proto-corpmates (molon labe, btw), every time. So guerilla seems to work better the more fragmented it is, because the only way to stand a chance is quick-hacking. Killing seems to be out of the question.
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Casual solo
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
661
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:54:00 -
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I don't wear shoes in the house. That takes care of most of it. The rest is all about impulse control.
Tiptoeing works too.
We can pickle that.
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medomai grey
WarRavens League of Infamy
587
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:54:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:Hi guys. A casual 20m SP dustie here.
I just had my daily match, and got stomped again. So far so normal. Instead of de-pressurize by a juicy rant, I want instead to use my rage and hate and despair, and channel it productively.
What is your best tactic, when you get stomped?
Mine was so far to get into solo scout/sniper mode, keep putting an uplink infrastructure around a chosen objective and snipe guard it. If the enemy chooses another place to milk the team for WP and ISK, I make a quick hack and gtfo. So I want to die as little as possible, just to not give them the kills. In domination and ambush I dont see any chances, so the only thing left is sniping (now that the forge is a non-entity the only thing left for that is the SR). But I see that this is lame, so are there any other alternatives to go 1/15 and get so annoyed that you wont ever play again? Observe enemy tactics and identify the cause of grief for my team. Step 2 is to think of a counter strategy within my means and then enact it. This can be something as simple as taking a sniper rifle to destroy hard to reach uplinks to cut off enemy reinforcements or painfully using your ADS as a decoy to keep the attention of 3-6 tanks off your infantry for the entire duration of the match.
In the case where half or more of my team decides to give up and snipe in the redline, I show my proper respect to blue-tards and glue my crotch to their scopes until they are killed by counter snipers. Zoom in on this you bastards.
Medium frame EHP is not medium
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2241
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:56:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:Hi guys. A casual 20m SP dustie here.
I just had my daily match, and got stomped again. So far so normal. Instead of de-pressurize by a juicy rant, I want instead to use my rage and hate and despair, and channel it productively.
What is your best tactic, when you get stomped?
Mine was so far to get into solo scout/sniper mode,
stopped reading here.
-#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
2515
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:57:00 -
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Explosions! Lots of Explosions! Stompers hate explosions because they terminate your clone upon death.
Meaning every death is paid in full. For the best effect use remote explosives, that REALLY pees them off. I have an advamced minmatar logi with MD, RE, F-45 RE amd Nanohives, to keep themexplosive goodness going, oh and contact grenades.
Is a good opener!
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
2492
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:58:00 -
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Suicide Dragonfly scout with a shotgun.
For the Federation!
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
625
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Posted - 2014.04.13 11:59:00 -
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Stomp them before they can Stomp you, best Anti Stomp tactic ever |
Sana Rayya
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1319
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Posted - 2014.04.13 12:01:00 -
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Even, close matches are much more fun. I enjoy squadding from time to time but usually when that happens, our side is too well established at the beginning of a match and it leads to redlining.
When I solo, I always drop uplinks in the beginning of the match then switch to knife scout. On my Minnie I can OHK any medium or light with a charged swipe, whether they are proto or militia. And in many matches, if the other side is clearly stomping/redlining, they get overconfident and sloppy, allowing me to sneak behind them and slit some throats.
REs are fun too. And jihad-jeeping if there are too many enemy tanks afoot. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
2242
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Posted - 2014.04.13 12:01:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Stomp them before they can Stomp you, best Anti Stomp tactic ever
Wisdom.
-#Firmocosìperchènonhopersonalità
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poison Diego
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
387
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Posted - 2014.04.13 12:03:00 -
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shotgun cloak on blueprint suit or show them what I can do with my basic aurum AR
Why not just put cloaks on ADSs, Forgeguns on scouts and make heavies only be able to use sidearms?
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
120
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Posted - 2014.04.13 12:10:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Stomp them before they can Stomp you, best Anti Stomp tactic ever
Well, the thread will not be interesting to you, just skip over it.
I try to find a balance between my preferred play style and the forces of my surroundings.
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Casual solo
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2245
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Posted - 2014.04.13 13:20:00 -
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REs. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2652
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Posted - 2014.04.13 13:22:00 -
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Dragonfly scout with gallente scouts skilled to 4 plus a BPO damper is nearly invisible.
Add 5000 ISK worth of remotes.
Profit.
Actually turned the tide of a battle and won it with this suit on the gallente facility recently, the pack of proto sentinels who had been chewing through everyone on my team suddenly had a lot less interest in taking the city. They were substantially less effective trying to hold the outer objectives.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
116
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Posted - 2014.04.13 13:37:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:Hi guys. A casual 20m SP dustie here.
I just had my daily match, and got stomped again. So far so normal. Instead of de-pressurize by a juicy rant, I want instead to use my rage and hate and despair, and channel it productively.
What is your best tactic, when you get stomped?
Mine was so far to get into solo scout/sniper mode, keep putting an uplink infrastructure around a chosen objective and snipe guard it. If the enemy chooses another place to milk the team for WP and ISK, I make a quick hack and gtfo. So I want to die as little as possible, just to not give them the kills. In domination and ambush I dont see any chances, so the only thing left is sniping (now that the forge is a non-entity the only thing left for that is the SR). But I see that this is lame, so are there any other alternatives to go 1/15 and get so annoyed that you wont ever play again?
Patience and distance solves most stomping problems.
FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS--NUFF SED
YOU SHALL NOT CATCH ME FOR I AM THE GINGERBREAD FATMAN
-Romulus H3X
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Shadow Archeus
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
374
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Posted - 2014.04.13 13:37:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Suicide Dragonfly scout with a shotgun.
Dragonfly Mlt shotgun bpo Toxin SMG bpo Cloak Two range amplifiers One basic CPU upgrade One adv precision enhancer
Runs around 7k isk
Real heavies use lasers
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
1198
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Posted - 2014.04.13 13:47:00 -
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My tactic is to aim, then fire, for long enough that they die. |
CaveCav
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
295
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Posted - 2014.04.13 13:54:00 -
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Qsync 16 people and militia-stomp them harder the next match, that will teach them!
Dedicated Logibro, Gunner, Counter-Sniper
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
121
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Posted - 2014.04.13 13:58:00 -
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Some interesting suggestions so far. But few I havent thought of yet.
Has anyone something unusual for me? I mean sure, militia redline sniping and shotty cloak is fun, because the rage it entices in some not as resilient as us casuals, and for the lolz. But I mean something really unconventional.
But I see, it seems for the casual player there is little alternative to solo scouting when stomped.
The answer to your complaint is PvE. Always.
NPE status: (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Casual solo
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Izlare Lenix
Arrogance.
421
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:10:00 -
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I must be masochist because I love playing solo against a stacked team.
Mainly because I feel it makes you a better player. It also makes you a smarter player.
A stacked team against a crap team will very quickly get cocky and overconfident. And proto stompers that always run shoulder to shoulder are generally weak players. That's why they are always in proto gear and never more than 3m away from each other.
Use this to your advantage. Set RE traps, attack them from the flanks. Kill the guy in the rear and run like hell. Isolate one, kill him and disappear.
If you are on a crappy team, and you don't come in #1 on the killboard, you did not try hard enough.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies Brave Collective
2316
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:12:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:Hi guys. A casual 20m SP dustie here.
I just had my daily match, and got stomped again. So far so normal. Instead of de-pressurize by a juicy rant, I want instead to use my rage and hate and despair, and channel it productively.
What is your best tactic, when you get stomped?
Mine was so far to get into solo scout/sniper mode, keep putting an uplink infrastructure around a chosen objective and snipe guard it. If the enemy chooses another place to milk the team for WP and ISK, I make a quick hack and gtfo. So I want to die as little as possible, just to not give them the kills. In domination and ambush I dont see any chances, so the only thing left is sniping (now that the forge is a non-entity the only thing left for that is the SR). But I see that this is lame, so are there any other alternatives to go 1/15 and get so annoyed that you wont ever play again?
I go for cheap suits and starters. Usually I grab my light frame UL suit and try to gtfo of the killbox and drop uplinks. Makes WP and helps to learn the maps better. I don't give a rat's ass about KDR and free suits allow you to push hard and make pure profit, with some better mods the suits are very good and cheap as hell. A gal starter with perfect armor skills can get like 500 HP in armor and cost like 10K. Run starter fits for a month and I promise that you will be richer and do better on the field when you go back to custom suits. Don't give up.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Clone D
199
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Posted - 2014.04.13 14:16:00 -
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Grab a scout fitting with R-9 drop uplinks. Deploy to strategic locations. Go around hacking unprotected objectives and taking out isolated infantry.
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