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Scrappy Bernard
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.10 22:48:00 -
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Everyone is bitching that DNS did it, but how would you have done it?
Would you never have the ambition?
Would you have blued 50 corps instead of NF alliance and AE.?
Seems they acomplished the most with the least.
What credible realistic way would you have preferred them to take 100%?
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Dirt Nap Squad.
513
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:02:00 -
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The truth is that many of the corps hating on us would have done the same and want to do the same.
Would you believe me if I told you that when Eon left PC that the people who participated in FEC actually had plans to become to new EoN? All but one group failed of course
I was there when FEC was forming and during the whole slaughter of FEC. Believe what you want everyone but the truth is that many of the people nagging at us in the war room wanted to become the new EoN right after FEC but failed.
For example, the last corporation I was in tried to blue up all the strong corps and become the new EoN but internal problems ended it.
Never believe any of those who bash DNS saying "there are evil" because those that point the fingers would do the same the first chance they get. Funny thing is some of the CEOs of the corp members yelling at DNS in here are those that tried to become the new EoN. Yet they say we are evil lolololololol
Evil only because you didn't become the new power house like you wanted.
- holds out hand and a swarm of angry mutated salmon cornflakes appear * Attack my children attack!
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1641
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:11:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:The truth is that many of the corps hating on us would have done the same and want to do the same.
Would you believe me if I told you that when Eon left PC that the people who participated in FEC actually had plans to become to new EoN? All but one group failed of course
I was there when FEC was forming and during the whole slaughter of FEC. Believe what you want everyone but the truth is that many of the people nagging at us in the war room wanted to become the new EoN right after FEC but failed.
For example, the last corporation I was in tried to blue up all the strong corps and become the new EoN but internal problems ended it.
Never believe any of those who bash DNS saying "there are evil" because those that point the fingers would do the same the first chance they get. Funny thing is some of the CEOs of the corp members yelling at DNS in here are those that tried to become the new EoN. Yet they say we are evil lolololololol
Evil only because you didn't become the new power house like you wanted.
I agree. A lot of people are greedy and want it all without reason. A lot of people would jump at the chance to do the same. I can think of a couple of people off the top of my head that I've personally talked to who would shoot me in the back if it meant getting them to control clone-farming in Molden Heath. Some of them were funding my corp in the FEC...
But regardless of all of that. Not everyone's like that. I personally couldn't care enough to want to hold the whole region right now. The most I ever wanted to do was police it to avoid monopolization in it's current form because, hey, this is the only region we got right now. There are several others who would more than likely do the same.
And then there's those who would just protect their neck. I kinda cringe at the thought that I know such people...
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
http://royventus.tumblr.com
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI
704
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Posted - 2014.04.11 00:05:00 -
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Define Everyone?
Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous
DNS first to use game theory.
Neo-Realism.
Prisoner dilemma look it up b4 you meta
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Yokal Bob
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
423
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Posted - 2014.04.11 00:16:00 -
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Never wanted the whole of MH, a small planet would satisfy my ambitions perfectly. And that is to have regular PC and some income.
CPM1 candidate
I want my logi tank back
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yep derrith again
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.04.11 00:21:00 -
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Yes, I would have done it, and it looks like I did. |
Wolfica
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
566
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Posted - 2014.04.11 00:44:00 -
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helI I might not personally own a district but im glad as fu*ck im one of the leaders of one of the best teams in this alliance... plus we still get paid to kick ass and not worry about the logistics side of owning so many districts.
yall are nubbers btw
Do you even PC bro.... ha I bet you don't.
forum warrior lvl .566
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
1459
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Posted - 2014.04.11 00:44:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:Never wanted the whole of MH, a small planet would satisfy my ambitions perfectly. And that is to have regular PC and some income.
that is why no one will remember your name.
DNS. will force ccp to make changes. that's what new eden is all about.
they call themselves 'crowd control productions'. let's see them control this.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1641
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Posted - 2014.04.11 01:14:00 -
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low genius wrote:Yokal Bob wrote:Never wanted the whole of MH, a small planet would satisfy my ambitions perfectly. And that is to have regular PC and some income. that is why no one will remember your name. DNS. will force ccp to make changes. that's what new eden is all about. they call themselves 'crowd control productions'. let's see them control this.
I remember his name pretty well. *Shrugs* If you're in it purely to have your name known, it's kinda silly.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
http://royventus.tumblr.com
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Dirt Nap Squad.
516
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Posted - 2014.04.11 01:44:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:low genius wrote:Yokal Bob wrote:Never wanted the whole of MH, a small planet would satisfy my ambitions perfectly. And that is to have regular PC and some income. that is why no one will remember your name. DNS. will force ccp to make changes. that's what new eden is all about. they call themselves 'crowd control productions'. let's see them control this. I remember his name pretty well. *Shrugs* If you're in it purely to have your name known, it's kinda silly. He was quoting something
If I recall, I heard that line from... Achilles? Not sure about other movies though
- holds out hand and a swarm of angry mutated salmon cornflakes appear * Attack my children attack!
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Yokal Bob
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
425
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Posted - 2014.04.11 01:44:00 -
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low genius wrote:Yokal Bob wrote:Never wanted the whole of MH, a small planet would satisfy my ambitions perfectly. And that is to have regular PC and some income. that is why no one will remember your name. DNS. will force ccp to make changes. that's what new eden is all about. they call themselves 'crowd control productions'. let's see them control this.
Not saying that changes do not need to be made. I just think that me personally would like others to enjoy the game as well. As for people remembering me, I don't need that. The people that know, know me and that's all there is to it.
CPM1 candidate
I want my logi tank back
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demens grimwulff
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
172
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Posted - 2014.04.11 03:47:00 -
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As an ex-director of ANON, I know all of the people who were involved in those meetings about setting up the new EON.
Pradox... 0uter.Heaven... Valor Coalition... What was your name for the alliance Mike Ruan? Ascension? You even made it, remember? Ascension Alliance alliance... triple A. ANON voted not to join because we got tired of doing all of your damn PCs for you... grow up. If you're in any of those corps, you have no right to complain about DNS as your leaders tried to do the very same... but those whose shoulders y'all stood on didn't want to take it anymore.
ETA: Oh... Don't forget Phoenix Federation! They got added in at the last minute because Mike liked them... then they failcascaded into whatever you want to call them now. Phoenix Fed lite? Whatever... Your corp is just as tainted, but unlike Icarus, you never got off the ground before your wings melted.
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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TechMechMeds
SWAMPERIUM
3032
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Posted - 2014.04.11 03:55:00 -
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I think dust scum need to learn their place as assets, then the game will get better. Until then, read my SIG lol.
If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you.
The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
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Alaska Kilgannon
The Phoenix Federation
50
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Posted - 2014.04.11 04:20:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:As an ex-director of ANON, I know all of the people who were involved in those meetings about setting up the new EON.
Pradox... 0uter.Heaven... Valor Coalition... What was your name for the alliance Mike Ruan? Ascension? You even made it, remember? Ascension Alliance alliance... triple A. ANON voted not to join because we got tired of doing all of your damn PCs for you... grow up. If you're in any of those corps, you have no right to complain about DNS as your leaders tried to do the very same... but those whose shoulders y'all stood on didn't want to take it anymore.
ETA: Oh... Don't forget Phoenix Federation! They got added in at the last minute because Mike liked them... then they failcascaded into whatever you want to call them now. Phoenix Fed lite? Whatever... Your corp is just as tainted, but unlike Icarus, you never got off the ground before your wings melted.
Ummmm..... We're still The Phoenix Federation.
There's no lite about us.
Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
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Alaska Kilgannon
The Phoenix Federation
50
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Posted - 2014.04.11 04:46:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:I think dust scum need to learn their place as assets, then the game will get better. Until then, read my SIG lol.
Why are you still here?
If you are done with Dust and dislike it as much as you say you do, then why come on the DUST forums and complain about it.
You just look like a butthurt scrub and it's pretty pathetic.
Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
313
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Posted - 2014.04.11 05:04:00 -
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low genius wrote:Yokal Bob wrote:Never wanted the whole of MH, a small planet would satisfy my ambitions perfectly. And that is to have regular PC and some income. that is why no one will remember your name. DNS. will force ccp to make changes. that's what new eden is all about. they call themselves 'crowd control productions'. let's see them control this. This attitude is the problem. The players that are pushing this forward are more concerned with their inflated egos than anything else, yet they have the gall to frame it as a philanthropic campaign. It isn't, CCP has a roadmap, they don't need a bunch of detours because a few abusive backseat drivers are tearing up the car until they get their way. How about we continue with that analogy? We're in Nashville and we need to stop in Atlanta on our way to Miami, but these guys want to go to Orlando NOW, so now CCP has to make a huge detour to run through Orlando before the the guys in the backseat tear the car up any worse, then they have to head all the way back to Atlanta again. Regardless of what happens, it's a long trip, so that car is going to be screwed up by the time they get there, no matter what. For the non-Americans/geographically challanged: the trip in question (all the cities I mentioned are clearly labeled)
I don't care whether I am known in the future of Dust, I just want that future to be a reality. In that future, I will not need to live on in memory, because I am working for a Dust that I will be a presence in actuality. What good is it to be remembered if the medium for your success is only a memory as well?
I cannot be grouped in with any of the previous wannabe superpowers, so don't try to pull that on me. I entered into Dust already under the tag of PRO, helped in the eventual formation of today's Molon Labe, we started out in the League of Infamy after being repeatedly impressed by Kujo's apparent upstanding nature (how wrong we were...), as LoI slowly began to crumble we decided on moving to the slightly more promising ROFL, over time ROFL was overcome by widespread inactivity and we decided to join our consistently good ally STB in Public Disorder, finally PD was merged into General Tso's to give my corporation's current standing in Dust. |
m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
481
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Posted - 2014.04.11 05:54:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:As an ex-director of ANON, I know all of the people who were involved in those meetings about setting up the new EON.
Pradox... 0uter.Heaven... Valor Coalition... What was your name for the alliance Mike Ruan? Ascension? You even made it, remember? Ascension Alliance alliance... triple A. ANON voted not to join because we got tired of doing all of your damn PCs for you... grow up. If you're in any of those corps, you have no right to complain about DNS as your leaders tried to do the very same... but those whose shoulders y'all stood on didn't want to take it anymore.
ETA: Oh... Don't forget Phoenix Federation! They got added in at the last minute because Mike liked them... then they failcascaded into whatever you want to call them now. Phoenix Fed lite? Whatever... Your corp is just as tainted, but unlike Icarus, you never got off the ground before your wings melted. What's a DNS? |
Lunatic Kota
TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad.
125
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Posted - 2014.04.11 08:09:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:As an ex-director of ANON, I know all of the people who were involved in those meetings about setting up the new EON.
Pradox... 0uter.Heaven... Valor Coalition... What was your name for the alliance Mike Ruan? Ascension? You even made it, remember? Ascension Alliance alliance... triple A. ANON voted not to join because we got tired of doing all of your damn PCs for you... grow up. If you're in any of those corps, you have no right to complain about DNS as your leaders tried to do the very same... but those whose shoulders y'all stood on didn't want to take it anymore.
ETA: Oh... Don't forget Phoenix Federation! They got added in at the last minute because Mike liked them... then they failcascaded into whatever you want to call them now. Phoenix Fed lite? Whatever... Your corp is just as tainted, but unlike Icarus, you never got off the ground before your wings melted. What's a DNS?
Remember all that money you use to make? All those districts you use to have? Now you are clinging to what? 2?
That's "DNS"
If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
-David Hackworth
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Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
734
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Posted - 2014.04.11 10:22:00 -
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Scrappy Bernard wrote:Everyone is bitching that DNS did it, but how would you have done it?
Would you never have the ambition?
Would you have blued 50 corps instead of NF alliance and AE.?
Seems they acomplished the most with the least.
What credible realistic way would you have preferred them to take 100%?
If you are talking about conquering all MH, they just did what everyone else would have done in their place.
If you are talking about bluing up the competition, it was an inevitable conclusion with the current mechanics. Again, if it wasn't them doing it, it would have been someone else.
They just did it faster and better and they won. o7 |
LionTurtle91
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
133
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Posted - 2014.04.11 12:07:00 -
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Scrappy Bernard wrote:
Everyone is bitching that DNS did it, but how would you have done it?
Would you never have the ambition?
Would you have blued 50 corps instead of NF alliance and AE.?
Seems they acomplished the most with the least.
What credible realistic way would you have preferred them to take 100%?
Nope, never would want to hold all of Molden Heath or be apart of an alliance doing so. It's just unnecessary and horrible for the game. ISK doesn't mean anything to me, as long as I can afford my suits for PC, which isn't much.
I just want good quality fights, with a legit corp that's built something and has loyal players, those fights mean a lot. PC was fun last summer, fighting a full 16 of a corp, now its just so stale fighting the same people.
245 Districts is a lot of districts, there's no need to own more than 5% of MH.
But thats just my opinion on the game. With our playerbase and mentality of the games more skilled players, nothing will ever change, no matter what CCP does.
=ƒæë=ƒæî
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21yrOld Knight
Pradox XVI
715
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Posted - 2014.04.11 12:21:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:As an ex-director of ANON, I know all of the people who were involved in those meetings about setting up the new EON.
Pradox... 0uter.Heaven... Valor Coalition... What was your name for the alliance Mike Ruan? Ascension? You even made it, remember? Ascension Alliance alliance... triple A. ANON voted not to join because we got tired of doing all of your damn PCs for you... grow up. If you're in any of those corps, you have no right to complain about DNS as your leaders tried to do the very same... but those whose shoulders y'all stood on didn't want to take it anymore.
ETA: Oh... Don't forget Phoenix Federation! They got added in at the last minute because Mike liked them... then they failcascaded into whatever you want to call them now. Phoenix Fed lite? Whatever... Your corp is just as tainted, but unlike Icarus, you never got off the ground before your wings melted.
Hey buddy can you show some evidence of pradox members complaining about DNS. I'm serous about that.
Lol you don't even know what started PFV and TPF relations.
Also we love the hate. #BlueDonutsRedSprinkles.
Mike Ruan Said I was Dust Famous
DNS first to use game theory.
Neo-Realism.
Prisoner dilemma look it up b4 you meta
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
483
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Posted - 2014.04.11 13:47:00 -
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Lunatic Kota wrote:m twiggz wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:As an ex-director of ANON, I know all of the people who were involved in those meetings about setting up the new EON.
Pradox... 0uter.Heaven... Valor Coalition... What was your name for the alliance Mike Ruan? Ascension? You even made it, remember? Ascension Alliance alliance... triple A. ANON voted not to join because we got tired of doing all of your damn PCs for you... grow up. If you're in any of those corps, you have no right to complain about DNS as your leaders tried to do the very same... but those whose shoulders y'all stood on didn't want to take it anymore.
ETA: Oh... Don't forget Phoenix Federation! They got added in at the last minute because Mike liked them... then they failcascaded into whatever you want to call them now. Phoenix Fed lite? Whatever... Your corp is just as tainted, but unlike Icarus, you never got off the ground before your wings melted. What's a DNS? Remember all that money you use to make? All those districts you use to have? Now you are clinging to what? 2? That's " DNS" Sorry never heard of it. |
Yokal Bob
G.R.A.V.E INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
434
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Posted - 2014.04.11 14:28:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:Lunatic Kota wrote:m twiggz wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:As an ex-director of ANON, I know all of the people who were involved in those meetings about setting up the new EON.
Pradox... 0uter.Heaven... Valor Coalition... What was your name for the alliance Mike Ruan? Ascension? You even made it, remember? Ascension Alliance alliance... triple A. ANON voted not to join because we got tired of doing all of your damn PCs for you... grow up. If you're in any of those corps, you have no right to complain about DNS as your leaders tried to do the very same... but those whose shoulders y'all stood on didn't want to take it anymore.
ETA: Oh... Don't forget Phoenix Federation! They got added in at the last minute because Mike liked them... then they failcascaded into whatever you want to call them now. Phoenix Fed lite? Whatever... Your corp is just as tainted, but unlike Icarus, you never got off the ground before your wings melted. What's a DNS? Remember all that money you use to make? All those districts you use to have? Now you are clinging to what? 2? That's " DNS" Sorry never heard of it.
Feigning ignorance will solve so many problems in the world *slow clap*
CPM1 candidate
I want my logi tank back
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The-Beard
Dorsai Chaotix
158
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Posted - 2014.04.11 15:17:00 -
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Scrappy Bernard wrote:
Everyone is bitching that DNS did it, but how would you have done it?
I would have stormed CCP HQ while wearing body armor made up of 100 yr old TNT that wasn't stored correctly. Siege the Hamster room that generates the power to the servers. Demand CCP open up more land in dust by holding the hamsters hostage. Eat a hamster every hour CCP fails to meet my demands. Then pray CCP knows I'm typing fiction and doesn't ban my main.
Scrappy Bernard wrote: Would you never have the ambition?
Would you never have the urge for WORLD DOm... GAME DOMINATION?!
Scrappy Bernard wrote: Would you have blued 50 corps instead of NF alliance and AE.?
HAHAHA! I'm an army of 3, me, myself & Irene.
Scrappy Bernard wrote: Seems they acomplished the most with the least.
dude really? army of 3 man, ARMY OF 3!
Scrappy Bernard wrote: What credible realistic way would you have preferred them to take 100%?
Whats credible and realistic mean? |
Radar R4D-47
0uter.Heaven
597
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:38:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:As an ex-director of ANON, I know all of the people who were involved in those meetings about setting up the new EON.
Pradox... 0uter.Heaven... Valor Coalition... What was your name for the alliance Mike Ruan? Ascension? You even made it, remember? Ascension Alliance alliance... triple A. ANON voted not to join because we got tired of doing all of your damn PCs for you... grow up. If you're in any of those corps, you have no right to complain about DNS as your leaders tried to do the very same... but those whose shoulders y'all stood on didn't want to take it anymore.
ETA: Oh... Don't forget Phoenix Federation! They got added in at the last minute because Mike liked them... then they failcascaded into whatever you want to call them now. Phoenix Fed lite? Whatever... Your corp is just as tainted, but unlike Icarus, you never got off the ground before your wings melted. As a director of ANON you apparently didn't know ****. The alliance was formed after FEC as a counterbalance to EON we had been working together unofficially for about 2 weeks. 0.H created it.
We brought in Paradox, Phoenix Fed, past ally Valor Coalition, and after fighting ANON in a PC we extended an offer to you. We talked with AE an flirted back and forth. They brought in Nyain San.
After discussions we decided on the name Ascension. Phoenix Fed created the alliance and the idiot called it Ascension Alliance. Internal Problems with Phoenix fed led us to remove them from the eventual alliance.
Shortly After EON had crumbled and there was no longer a need to counterbalance with another Alliance. So AE after having made good relations with Anon created Renegade with AE,Anon, and Nyain San. We made Proficiency V with VC, Paradox, and 0.H. Good balance in my eyes. Renegade bloated adding 2 more corps DDB and Cap Ac. Then on the eve of 1.7 war broke out.
Learn your history if you are going to speak demons. |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad.
668
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:53:00 -
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Radar R4D-47 wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:As an ex-director of ANON, I know all of the people who were involved in those meetings about setting up the new EON.
Pradox... 0uter.Heaven... Valor Coalition... What was your name for the alliance Mike Ruan? Ascension? You even made it, remember? Ascension Alliance alliance... triple A. ANON voted not to join because we got tired of doing all of your damn PCs for you... grow up. If you're in any of those corps, you have no right to complain about DNS as your leaders tried to do the very same... but those whose shoulders y'all stood on didn't want to take it anymore.
ETA: Oh... Don't forget Phoenix Federation! They got added in at the last minute because Mike liked them... then they failcascaded into whatever you want to call them now. Phoenix Fed lite? Whatever... Your corp is just as tainted, but unlike Icarus, you never got off the ground before your wings melted. As a director of ANON you apparently didn't know ****. The alliance was formed after FEC as a counterbalance to EON we had been working together unofficially for about 2 weeks. 0.H created it. We brought in Paradox, Phoenix Fed, past ally Valor Coalition, and after fighting ANON in a PC we extended an offer to you. We talked with AE an flirted back and forth. They brought in Nyain San. After discussions we decided on the name Ascension. Phoenix Fed created the alliance and the idiot called it Ascension Alliance. Internal Problems with Phoenix fed led us to remove them from the eventual alliance. Shortly After EON had crumbled and there was no longer a need to counterbalance with another Alliance. So AE after having made good relations with Anon created Renegade with AE,Anon, and Nyain San. We made Proficiency V with VC, Paradox, and 0.H. Good balance in my eyes. Renegade bloated adding 2 more corps DDB and Cap Ac. Then on the eve of 1.7 war broke out. Learn your history if you are going to speak demons.
Learn your history Cap ac joined RA after the war ended |
Scrappy Bernard
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:53:00 -
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Radar R4D-47 wrote: As a director of ANON you apparently didn't know ****. The alliance was formed after FEC as a counterbalance to EON we had been working together unofficially for about 2 weeks. 0.H created it.
We brought in Paradox, Phoenix Fed, past ally Valor Coalition, and after fighting ANON in a PC we extended an offer to you. We talked with AE an flirted back and forth. They brought in Nyain San.
After discussions we decided on the name Ascension. Phoenix Fed created the alliance and the idiot called it Ascension Alliance. Internal Problems with Phoenix fed led us to remove them from the eventual alliance.
Shortly After EON had crumbled and there was no longer a need to counterbalance with another Alliance. So AE after having made good relations with Anon created Renegade with AE,Anon, and Nyain San. We made Proficiency V with VC, Paradox, and 0.H. Good balance in my eyes. Renegade bloated adding 2 more corps DDB and Cap Ac. Then on the eve of 1.7 war broke out.
Learn your history if you are going to speak demons.
What a moron. Cap Aq joined after 1.7, after the end of the winter war.
DDB was stronger BEFORE 1.7 but was worthless after.
Leave it to Radar to call someone else out when he doesn't have the facts straight.
And it was a terrible judge of balance. During the winter war anon automatically crumbled and it was DDB (a weaker opponent than ANON when comparing their primes) AE, and NS's small contribution vs VC, OH, and PX1.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
1461
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Posted - 2014.04.11 17:05:00 -
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Shutter Fly wrote:low genius wrote:Yokal Bob wrote:Never wanted the whole of MH, a small planet would satisfy my ambitions perfectly. And that is to have regular PC and some income. that is why no one will remember your name. DNS. will force ccp to make changes. that's what new eden is all about. they call themselves 'crowd control productions'. let's see them control this. This attitude is the problem. The players that are pushing this forward are more concerned with their inflated egos than anything else, yet they have the gall to frame it as a philanthropic campaign. It isn't, CCP has a roadmap, they don't need a bunch of detours because a few abusive backseat drivers are tearing up the car until they get their way. How about we continue with that analogy? We're in Nashville and we need to stop in Atlanta on our way to Miami, but these guys want to go to Orlando NOW, so now CCP has to make a huge detour to run through Orlando before the the guys in the backseat tear the car up any worse, then they have to head all the way back to Atlanta again. Regardless of what happens, it's a long trip, so that car is going to be screwed up by the time they get there, no matter what. For the non-Americans/geographically challanged: the trip in question (all the cities I mentioned are clearly labeled) I don't care whether I am known in the future of Dust, I just want that future to be a reality. In that future, I will not need to live on in memory, because I am working for a Dust that I will be a presence in actuality. What good is it to be remembered if the medium for your success is only a memory as well? I cannot be grouped in with any of the previous wannabe superpowers, so don't try to pull that on me. I entered into Dust already under the tag of PRO, helped in the eventual formation of today's Molon Labe, we started out in the League of Infamy after being repeatedly impressed by Kujo's apparent upstanding nature (how wrong we were...), as LoI slowly began to crumble we decided on moving to the slightly more promising ROFL, over time ROFL was overcome by widespread inactivity and we decided to join our consistently good ally STB in Public Disorder, finally PD was merged into General Tso's to give my corporation's current standing in Dust.
you'd be singing a different tune if you'd have won the fight in molden heath.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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Cubs Secretary
TeamPlayers
90
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Posted - 2014.04.11 17:10:00 -
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Radar R4D-47 wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:As an ex-director of ANON, I know all of the people who were involved in those meetings about setting up the new EON.
Pradox... 0uter.Heaven... Valor Coalition... What was your name for the alliance Mike Ruan? Ascension? You even made it, remember? Ascension Alliance alliance... triple A. ANON voted not to join because we got tired of doing all of your damn PCs for you... grow up. If you're in any of those corps, you have no right to complain about DNS as your leaders tried to do the very same... but those whose shoulders y'all stood on didn't want to take it anymore.
ETA: Oh... Don't forget Phoenix Federation! They got added in at the last minute because Mike liked them... then they failcascaded into whatever you want to call them now. Phoenix Fed lite? Whatever... Your corp is just as tainted, but unlike Icarus, you never got off the ground before your wings melted. As a director of ANON you apparently didn't know ****. The alliance was formed after FEC as a counterbalance to EON we had been working together unofficially for about 2 weeks. 0.H created it. We brought in Paradox, Phoenix Fed, past ally Valor Coalition, and after fighting ANON in a PC we extended an offer to you. We talked with AE an flirted back and forth. They brought in Nyain San. After discussions we decided on the name Ascension. Phoenix Fed created the alliance and the idiot called it Ascension Alliance. Internal Problems with Phoenix fed led us to remove them from the eventual alliance. Shortly After EON had crumbled and there was no longer a need to counterbalance with another Alliance. So AE after having made good relations with Anon created Renegade with AE,Anon, and Nyain San. We made Proficiency V with VC, Paradox, and 0.H. Good balance in my eyes. Renegade bloated adding 2 more corps DDB and Cap Ac. Then on the eve of 1.7 war broke out. Learn your history if you are going to speak demons.
from the desk of Cubs:
Here we go again. Radar denies up and down the river he didn't backstab EoN. or anything of the sort, and then in another thread (quoted above) readily states this was in fact the case.
I have now figured out the Mascot for Outer Heaven...
its none other than Forrest Gump
'Stupid is as Stupid does, Sir'
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Radar R4D-47
0uter.Heaven
598
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Posted - 2014.04.11 17:59:00 -
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Scrappy Bernard wrote:
What a moron. Cap Aq joined after 1.7, after the end of the winter war.
My bad forgot Cap Aq wasn't in Renegade till after. Regardless of corps our war had nothing to do with who had more or better corps. The war jump started Dust again and was one of the longest lasting. Burnout hit us before it hit them. |
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Radar R4D-47
0uter.Heaven
598
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:08:00 -
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Cubs Secretary wrote:
from Cubs:
Here we go again. Radar denies up and down the river he didn't backstab EoN. or anything of the sort, and then in another thread (quoted above) readily states this was in fact the case.
How did i backstab EON? Was i supposed to attack TP on our own again? Repeat history again? Was i supposed to wait another week when your plans to attack us and take our districts were to commence? I see no backstabbing in any of these. Backstabbing is taking your ally telling him to go first then killing him as he leads you. The equivalent of this would be 0.H during the FEC war instead of saying we are neutral to immediately attacking with the masses when we were in Eon. We left with a handshake and turned and walked out. Well actually you raged and left. Draka and Mavado said farewell. Get over the fact we left Cubs i have already thanked you and kissed the ground you walked on for letting us flourish with Eon. i tried to leave on friendly terms. Eon was not a place 0.H felt welcomed. I enjoyed playing with TP players but the rest of that alliance was against 0.H thus we didn't want to be in a place we didn't belong. Stop saying we backstabbed you. |
Cubs Secretary
TeamPlayers
91
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:42:00 -
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from the desk of Cubs:
you misunderstand me. Team Players could give 2 sh1ts about what you did and didnt do. EoN on the other hand, as an alliance, as a family, did see things this way, and Im not sitting here trying to stand up for you...again.
Shame on me for ever believing you had any honor or integrity. i proved im human and make mistakes then and there, for anyone dumb enough to think i wasnt.
even now, i could give 2 sh1ts what u do or dont do. i just know i made a promise to my EoN. family that the polish minmatar shoeshiners use and discard after recycling gets more respect than you. it definitely has more value
now get back on the island and leave the damn sea turtles alone. countless reports of abuse of the wildlife out there, just sickening....
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demens grimwulff
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
179
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:44:00 -
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Scrappy Bernard wrote:Radar R4D-47 wrote: As a director of ANON you apparently didn't know ****. The alliance was formed after FEC as a counterbalance to EON we had been working together unofficially for about 2 weeks. 0.H created it.
We brought in Paradox, Phoenix Fed, past ally Valor Coalition, and after fighting ANON in a PC we extended an offer to you. We talked with AE an flirted back and forth. They brought in Nyain San.
After discussions we decided on the name Ascension. Phoenix Fed created the alliance and the idiot called it Ascension Alliance. Internal Problems with Phoenix fed led us to remove them from the eventual alliance.
Shortly After EON had crumbled and there was no longer a need to counterbalance with another Alliance. So AE after having made good relations with Anon created Renegade with AE,Anon, and Nyain San. We made Proficiency V with VC, Paradox, and 0.H. Good balance in my eyes. Renegade bloated adding 2 more corps DDB and Cap Ac. Then on the eve of 1.7 war broke out.
Learn your history if you are going to speak demons.
What a moron. Cap Aq joined after 1.7, after the end of the winter war. DDB was stronger BEFORE 1.7 but was worthless after. Leave it to Radar to call someone else out when he doesn't have the facts straight. And it was a terrible judge of balance. During the winter war anon automatically crumbled and it was DDB (a weaker opponent than ANON when comparing their primes) AE, and NS's small contribution vs VC, OH, and PX1.
It was more than that. ANON crumbled because as I predicted, ANON would go broke fighting TSOLE. The wallet couldn't fund a war against that many districts without running dry quick and that is what happened. Directly after the TSOLE war, 0.H attacked, leaving only the PC vets with money and the corp was bled dry with nothing to repay its members. Strife from the inside tore ANON apart... not 0.H.
I like how Radar denies the whole thing... yet he knows it is true. Funny, but meta doesn't work on or bother me... push your agenda as you will.
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
1462
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Posted - 2014.04.12 03:13:00 -
[34] - Quote
Radar R4D-47 wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:As an ex-director of ANON, I know all of the people who were involved in those meetings about setting up the new EON.
Pradox... 0uter.Heaven... Valor Coalition... What was your name for the alliance Mike Ruan? Ascension? You even made it, remember? Ascension Alliance alliance... triple A. ANON voted not to join because we got tired of doing all of your damn PCs for you... grow up. If you're in any of those corps, you have no right to complain about DNS as your leaders tried to do the very same... but those whose shoulders y'all stood on didn't want to take it anymore.
ETA: Oh... Don't forget Phoenix Federation! They got added in at the last minute because Mike liked them... then they failcascaded into whatever you want to call them now. Phoenix Fed lite? Whatever... Your corp is just as tainted, but unlike Icarus, you never got off the ground before your wings melted. As a director of ANON you apparently didn't know ****. The alliance was formed after FEC as a counterbalance to EON we had been working together unofficially for about 2 weeks. 0.H created it. We brought in Paradox, Phoenix Fed, past ally Valor Coalition, and after fighting ANON in a PC we extended an offer to you. We talked with AE an flirted back and forth. They brought in Nyain San. After discussions we decided on the name Ascension. Phoenix Fed created the alliance and the idiot called it Ascension Alliance. Internal Problems with Phoenix fed led us to remove them from the eventual alliance. Shortly After EON had crumbled and there was no longer a need to counterbalance with another Alliance. So AE after having made good relations with Anon created Renegade with AE,Anon, and Nyain San. We made Proficiency V with VC, Paradox, and 0.H. Good balance in my eyes. Renegade bloated adding 2 more corps DDB and Cap Ac. Then on the eve of 1.7 war broke out. Learn your history if you are going to speak demons.
ae did not ceate the renegade alliance.
in fact, demens was in the renegade alliance LONG before any of the other corporations you've mentioned (you can check his employment history for 'the sound of freedom').
just so we're clear: demens grimwulff initiated talks between kujo and I. there's a possibility he knows more about this than you do.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad.
1462
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Posted - 2014.04.12 03:15:00 -
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Scrappy Bernard wrote:Radar R4D-47 wrote: As a director of ANON you apparently didn't know ****. The alliance was formed after FEC as a counterbalance to EON we had been working together unofficially for about 2 weeks. 0.H created it.
We brought in Paradox, Phoenix Fed, past ally Valor Coalition, and after fighting ANON in a PC we extended an offer to you. We talked with AE an flirted back and forth. They brought in Nyain San.
After discussions we decided on the name Ascension. Phoenix Fed created the alliance and the idiot called it Ascension Alliance. Internal Problems with Phoenix fed led us to remove them from the eventual alliance.
Shortly After EON had crumbled and there was no longer a need to counterbalance with another Alliance. So AE after having made good relations with Anon created Renegade with AE,Anon, and Nyain San. We made Proficiency V with VC, Paradox, and 0.H. Good balance in my eyes. Renegade bloated adding 2 more corps DDB and Cap Ac. Then on the eve of 1.7 war broke out.
Learn your history if you are going to speak demons.
What a moron. Cap Aq joined after 1.7, after the end of the winter war. DDB was stronger BEFORE 1.7 but was worthless after. Leave it to Radar to call someone else out when he doesn't have the facts straight. And it was a terrible judge of balance. During the winter war anon automatically crumbled and it was DDB (a weaker opponent than ANON when comparing their primes) AE, and NS's small contribution vs VC, OH, and PX1.
DDB has been making their name knows within eve online. don't think they're 'worthless' because they're players are flying spaceships instead of wearing suits.
eatsbabies cienfuegos
steward of the renegade alliance.
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demens grimwulff
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
194
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Posted - 2014.04.12 03:47:00 -
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low genius wrote:Radar R4D-47 wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:As an ex-director of ANON, I know all of the people who were involved in those meetings about setting up the new EON.
Pradox... 0uter.Heaven... Valor Coalition... What was your name for the alliance Mike Ruan? Ascension? You even made it, remember? Ascension Alliance alliance... triple A. ANON voted not to join because we got tired of doing all of your damn PCs for you... grow up. If you're in any of those corps, you have no right to complain about DNS as your leaders tried to do the very same... but those whose shoulders y'all stood on didn't want to take it anymore.
ETA: Oh... Don't forget Phoenix Federation! They got added in at the last minute because Mike liked them... then they failcascaded into whatever you want to call them now. Phoenix Fed lite? Whatever... Your corp is just as tainted, but unlike Icarus, you never got off the ground before your wings melted. As a director of ANON you apparently didn't know ****. The alliance was formed after FEC as a counterbalance to EON we had been working together unofficially for about 2 weeks. 0.H created it. We brought in Paradox, Phoenix Fed, past ally Valor Coalition, and after fighting ANON in a PC we extended an offer to you. We talked with AE an flirted back and forth. They brought in Nyain San. After discussions we decided on the name Ascension. Phoenix Fed created the alliance and the idiot called it Ascension Alliance. Internal Problems with Phoenix fed led us to remove them from the eventual alliance. Shortly After EON had crumbled and there was no longer a need to counterbalance with another Alliance. So AE after having made good relations with Anon created Renegade with AE,Anon, and Nyain San. We made Proficiency V with VC, Paradox, and 0.H. Good balance in my eyes. Renegade bloated adding 2 more corps DDB and Cap Ac. Then on the eve of 1.7 war broke out. Learn your history if you are going to speak demons. ae did not ceate the renegade alliance. in fact, demens was in the renegade alliance LONG before any of the other corporations you've mentioned (you can check his employment history for 'the sound of freedom'). just so we're clear: demens grimwulff initiated talks between kujo and I. there's a possibility he knows more about this than you do.
Dem feels... <3 you guys. We need to squad up sometime... I miss playing with you guys :/ haven't had a chance to really talk to/ see you since that AE. PC you were in.
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The-Beard
Dorsai Chaotix
161
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:02:00 -
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Cubs Secretary wrote:from the desk of Cubs: you misunderstand me. Team Players could give 2 sh1ts about what you did and didnt do. EoN on the other hand, as an alliance, as a family, did see things this way, and Im not sitting here trying to stand up for you...again. Shame on me for ever believing you had any honor or integrity. i proved im human and make mistakes then and there, for anyone dumb enough to think i wasnt. even now, i could give 2 sh1ts what u do or dont do. i just know i made a promise to my EoN. family that the polish minmatar shoeshiners use and discard after recycling gets more respect than you. it definitely has more value now get back on the island and leave the damn sea turtles alone. countless reports of abuse of the wildlife out there, just sickening.... ---------------------------end transmission-----------------------
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General John Ripper
19779
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:04:00 -
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Scrappy Bernard wrote:Everyone is bitching that DNS did it, but how would you have done it?
Would you never have the ambition?
Would you have blued 50 corps instead of NF alliance and AE.?
Seems they acomplished the most with the least.
What credible realistic way would you have preferred them to take 100%?
ambition? plenty of people have that.
You should change that line to..
"Would you ever have the skill?"
My like count = Nominate Ripper 4 CCP petition
I'll fix the game.
Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.
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Scrappy Bernard
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
59
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Posted - 2014.04.12 04:57:00 -
[39] - Quote
low genius wrote:Scrappy Bernard wrote:Radar R4D-47 wrote: As a director of ANON you apparently didn't know ****. The alliance was formed after FEC as a counterbalance to EON we had been working together unofficially for about 2 weeks. 0.H created it.
We brought in Paradox, Phoenix Fed, past ally Valor Coalition, and after fighting ANON in a PC we extended an offer to you. We talked with AE an flirted back and forth. They brought in Nyain San.
After discussions we decided on the name Ascension. Phoenix Fed created the alliance and the idiot called it Ascension Alliance. Internal Problems with Phoenix fed led us to remove them from the eventual alliance.
Shortly After EON had crumbled and there was no longer a need to counterbalance with another Alliance. So AE after having made good relations with Anon created Renegade with AE,Anon, and Nyain San. We made Proficiency V with VC, Paradox, and 0.H. Good balance in my eyes. Renegade bloated adding 2 more corps DDB and Cap Ac. Then on the eve of 1.7 war broke out.
Learn your history if you are going to speak demons.
What a moron. Cap Aq joined after 1.7, after the end of the winter war. DDB was stronger BEFORE 1.7 but was worthless after. Leave it to Radar to call someone else out when he doesn't have the facts straight. And it was a terrible judge of balance. During the winter war anon automatically crumbled and it was DDB (a weaker opponent than ANON when comparing their primes) AE, and NS's small contribution vs VC, OH, and PX1. DDB has been making their name knows within eve online. don't think they're 'worthless' because they're players are flying spaceships instead of wearing suits.
Nah DDB became trash around the time that roman guy got booted from STB and went there.
They don't have 20+ pilots up in space, or even their best players in space.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
2778
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Posted - 2014.04.12 05:41:00 -
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Yea I'd do the same... but then I'd just butt f*ck everyone because I could :)
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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T8R Raid
BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives
200
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Posted - 2014.04.12 06:59:00 -
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low genius wrote:Yokal Bob wrote:Never wanted the whole of MH, a small planet would satisfy my ambitions perfectly. And that is to have regular PC and some income. that is why no one will remember your name. DNS. will force ccp to make changes. that's what new eden is all about. they call themselves 'crowd control productions'. let's see them control this.
When has CCP tried to control anything? New Eden has always been about doing as little as possible for as much as you can for as long as you can. If you think they give one sh*t about what's going on in PC then you're more delusional than a blueberry confusing a CRU with a turret.
Unchecked dishonesty can promote the perception that one must cheat to remain competitive.
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General John Ripper
19800
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Posted - 2014.04.12 07:31:00 -
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low genius wrote:Yokal Bob wrote:Never wanted the whole of MH, a small planet would satisfy my ambitions perfectly. And that is to have regular PC and some income. that is why no one will remember your name. DNS. will force ccp to make changes. that's what new eden is all about. they call themselves 'crowd control productions'. let's see them control this. and in the process of doing this greatest of feats for the benifet of the community, it is also not so bad that they are getting filthy rich. That part is just a bonus. Making a statement to ccp. that is what is important.
My like count = Nominate Ripper 4 CCP petition
I'll fix the game.
Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.
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The-Beard
Dorsai Chaotix
166
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Posted - 2014.04.12 11:50:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:low genius wrote:Yokal Bob wrote:Never wanted the whole of MH, a small planet would satisfy my ambitions perfectly. And that is to have regular PC and some income. that is why no one will remember your name. DNS. will force ccp to make changes. that's what new eden is all about. they call themselves 'crowd control productions'. let's see them control this. and in the process of doing this greatest of feats for the benifet of the community, it is also not so bad that they are getting filthy rich. That part is just a bonus. Making a statement to ccp. that is what is important.
lol, what statement? That an alliance can take over a region of space? HAHAHAHA! Ya, umm, that feat has been done and redone many times over in new eden. The fact that you think this is some major accomplishment while PC is on easy mode is all the better lol. Oh man, roflmao, how dumb can you and your alliance be. |
Shutter Fly
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
318
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Posted - 2014.04.12 12:28:00 -
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low genius wrote:Shutter Fly wrote:low genius wrote:Yokal Bob wrote:Never wanted the whole of MH, a small planet would satisfy my ambitions perfectly. And that is to have regular PC and some income. that is why no one will remember your name. DNS. will force ccp to make changes. that's what new eden is all about. they call themselves 'crowd control productions'. let's see them control this. This attitude is the problem. The players that are pushing this forward are more concerned with their inflated egos than anything else, yet they have the gall to frame it as a philanthropic campaign. It isn't, CCP has a roadmap, they don't need a bunch of detours because a few abusive backseat drivers are tearing up the car until they get their way. How about we continue with that analogy? We're in Nashville and we need to stop in Atlanta on our way to Miami, but these guys want to go to Orlando NOW, so now CCP has to make a huge detour to run through Orlando before the the guys in the backseat tear the car up any worse, then they have to head all the way back to Atlanta again. Regardless of what happens, it's a long trip, so that car is going to be screwed up by the time they get there, no matter what. For the non-Americans/geographically challanged: the trip in question (all the cities I mentioned are clearly labeled) I don't care whether I am known in the future of Dust, I just want that future to be a reality. In that future, I will not need to live on in memory, because I am working for a Dust that I will be a presence in actuality. What good is it to be remembered if the medium for your success is only a memory as well? I cannot be grouped in with any of the previous wannabe superpowers, so don't try to pull that on me. I entered into Dust already under the tag of PRO, helped in the eventual formation of today's Molon Labe, we started out in the League of Infamy after being repeatedly impressed by Kujo's apparent upstanding nature (how wrong we were...), as LoI slowly began to crumble we decided on moving to the slightly more promising ROFL, over time ROFL was overcome by widespread inactivity and we decided to join our consistently good ally STB in Public Disorder, finally PD was merged into General Tso's to give my corporation's current standing in Dust. you'd be singing a different tune if you'd have won the fight in molden heath. How sad, does he really think everyone is as conceited and short sighted as he is?
As I recall, prior to DNS, there were a good many groups occupying MH. The "blue doughnut" was a deliberate effort that was mostly devoid of direct conquest, as DNS started out with a vast majority of MH before any fighting took place, enough to give a significant clone advantage. The end result was clear long before the takeover happened, and it isn't something I would have been in favor of.
The-Beard wrote: lol, what statement? That an alliance can take over a region of space? HAHAHAHA! Ya, umm, that feat has been done and redone many times over in new eden. The fact that you think this is some major accomplishment while PC is on easy mode is all the better lol. Oh man, roflmao, how dumb can you and your alliance be.
Don't waste your time trying to get through to him, I already gave a clear explanation of why that logic is flawed (quoted above). If he's just going to ignore any real reason, then there's no point. |
The-Beard
Dorsai Chaotix
166
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Posted - 2014.04.12 13:40:00 -
[45] - Quote
Shutter Fly wrote:The-Beard wrote: lol, what statement? That an alliance can take over a region of space? HAHAHAHA! Ya, umm, that feat has been done and redone many times over in new eden. The fact that you think this is some major accomplishment while PC is on easy mode is all the better lol. Oh man, roflmao, how dumb can you and your alliance be.
Don't waste your time trying to get through to him, I already gave a clear explanation of why that logic is flawed (quoted above). If he's just going to ignore any real reason, then there's no point.
lol, I really don't care if I or anyone really gets through to them. If we did, then I couldn't laugh at them without looking like a lunatic. It is far more enjoyable to point out their idiocy and laugh at them. I mean really, how serious can you take a video game megalomaniac?
/does a high pitched nasally nerd voice We DNS is so awesome and powerful in this game that the game dev's will bow before us and weep at our very presence for we are the god's of this game and none can pee in our butts.
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