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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.04.08 03:42:00 -
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And somehow we had fully functioning industry, market mechanics and supply lines set up
would they remove the NPC market?
In other words, would the price be hard-capped at 57k for a proto suit?
ak.0 4 LYFE
je ne regrette rien
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies
Brave Collective
2280
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Posted - 2014.04.08 03:42:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:And somehow we had fully functioning industry, market mechanics and supply lines set up
would they remove the NPC market?
In other words, would the price be hard-capped at 57k for a proto suit?
It would probably be a few days before the market went solo, the industrialist would have to build of a stock pile for us to consume but to me they would scrap the NPC.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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Doctor Day
THE SUPERHEROS
38
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Posted - 2014.04.08 03:46:00 -
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sell all my rare weapons and aur suits
Obvious troll is Obvious
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2660
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Posted - 2014.04.08 03:47:00 -
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Doctor Day wrote:sell all my rare weapons and aur suits
Irrelevant to my question.
ak.0 4 LYFE
je ne regrette rien
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
723
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Posted - 2014.04.08 03:50:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:And somehow we had fully functioning industry, market mechanics and supply lines set up
would they remove the NPC market?
In other words, would the price be hard-capped at 57k for a proto suit?
This has been standard operating procedure for eve when CCP removes NPC control from some items.
My guess would be
A) They slowly phase out the NPC producers in order to not shock the hell out of the market
OR (and more likely)
B) Put the means of production up on the market and remove the NPC producers, then let the wild-west gold-rush commence.
Fixing swarms
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
862
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Posted - 2014.04.08 03:51:00 -
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Well removing NPC market just means massive inflation will ensue...At least in the beginning. You won't be buying any proto suits and forget about fighting in PC.
Does the playerbase want that? Where do you draw the line, because even the price of STD/MIL gear would skyrocket? Most of us would running starter suits cus we can't afford anything else.
But that's definitely one way to tiercide, make everything else stupidly expensive. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
5565
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Posted - 2014.04.08 03:52:00 -
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I'd watch burning angel pornagraphic videos as always.
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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m twiggz
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
454
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Posted - 2014.04.08 03:52:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:And somehow we had fully functioning industry, market mechanics and supply lines set up
would they remove the NPC market?
In other words, would the price be hard-capped at 57k for a proto suit?
Eve still has NPC markets even though the majority of the items are manufactured by players. Most of the NPC items consist of low grade things only beginning players use and skill books. With that philosophy in place I'm sure some things will be hard-capped but others will not be. Wealthy players could also buy all of one NPC item and jack up the price as they please as players do in Eve. The Eve NPCs only restock at certain times so this could be a viable tactic for all of those giant blue doughnut ISK farmers. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.08 04:04:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I'd watch burning angel pornagraphic videos as always.
Wtf is that...
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
5569
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Posted - 2014.04.08 04:29:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I'd watch burning angel pornagraphic videos as always. Wtf is that...
Skinflicks that appeals towards a certain kind of lifestyle.
Punk-rockish, tattoos and such.
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.08 04:30:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I'd watch burning angel pornagraphic videos as always. Wtf is that... Skinflicks that appeals towards a certain kind of lifestyle. Punk-rockish, tattoos and such.
Yea I looked it up.....
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
2748
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Posted - 2014.04.08 05:09:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I'd watch burning angel pornagraphic videos as always. Wtf is that... Skinflicks that appeals towards a certain kind of lifestyle. Punk-rockish, tattoos and such. Yea I looked it up.....
Welp guess it's time to pull out the incognito tab
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
899
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Posted - 2014.04.08 05:09:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I'd watch burning angel pornagraphic videos as always. Wtf is that... Skinflicks that appeals towards a certain kind of lifestyle. Punk-rockish, tattoos and such. Yea I looked it up..... Welp guess it's time to pull out the incognito tab
    
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Roofer Madness
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
952
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Posted - 2014.04.08 05:15:00 -
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Why don't you two go take a fap break and we'll meet back here in say, 10?
I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
899
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Posted - 2014.04.08 05:18:00 -
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No thanks
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
7847
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Posted - 2014.04.08 05:22:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:And somehow we had fully functioning industry, market mechanics and supply lines set up
would they remove the NPC market?
In other words, would the price be hard-capped at 57k for a proto suit? This has been standard operating procedure for eve when CCP removes NPC control from some items. My guess would be A) They slowly phase out the NPC producers in order to not shock the hell out of the market OR (and more likely) B) Put the means of production up on the market and remove the NPC producers, then let the wild-west gold-rush commence.
A very likely scenario either way.
Eve Online still has some NPC-seeded items for sale but as someone else pointed out they are like militia-grade items that only have an almost-nonexistent impact on the secondary economy. If the full economy (warts and all) were to come out tomorrow, it is possible that both A and B will happen at the same time.
Some items will still be seeded like the militia stuff while tier-1 to tier-5 items will NOT be seeded initially like how the Tier-3 Battlecruisers in Eve Online were introduced. The blueprints for the Naga, Oracle, Tornado, and Talos were NPC seeded but only in null-sec regions of space (dangerous trip indeed) where it was easy for null-sec dwellers and pirates to jump on prospectors looking to make a quick profit with the blueprints. There was no tier-3 BC at the start which enabled industrialists and marketeers to make a massive profit on those who are impatient and willing to get their hands on the stuff ASAP at the expense of a higher price tag (paying for convenience).
But as the first two weeks came and gone, competitors throughout New Eden were finished producing these ships in bulk and thus flooded the market with cheaper Tier-3 BCs and thus balance was achieved through market PvP.
Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer
Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
719
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Posted - 2014.04.08 05:29:00 -
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Im buying up all the tanks so that you can't have any. Better have your supply lines in place. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
900
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Posted - 2014.04.08 05:30:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:Im buying up all the tanks so that you can't have any. Better have your supply lines in place.
Same here
Also, go fiddle yourself like the other guy in this thread...
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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NEO Arbiter
Red Hand Syndicate
101
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Posted - 2014.04.08 06:23:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:Well removing NPC market just means massive inflation will ensue...At least in the beginning. You won't be buying any proto suits and forget about fighting in PC.
Does the playerbase want that? Where do you draw the line, because even the price of STD/MIL gear would skyrocket? Most of us would running starter suits cus we can't afford anything else.
But that's definitely one way to tiercide, make everything else stupidly expensive.
Incoming player market for dummies:
1. During inflation: buy assets
2. During deflation: sell sell sell
3. Know laws of supply/demand and how to respond
4. Dont get caught in the horde of sheeple who rush to do 1,2, or 3 only to find they were too late...
Tears4Life
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.08 06:30:00 -
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Kirk stop encouraging the children to look up bad things. 
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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m twiggz
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
459
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Posted - 2014.04.08 12:10:00 -
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Fap. |
RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
776
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Posted - 2014.04.08 12:22:00 -
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Doctor Day wrote:sell all my rare weapons and aur suits
During the early days. I'd rather you not, as there'll probably be a very large number of sellers compared to buyers, and your profit margins will be low, or nonexistent
Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
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Baryt Ben Bruyn
DARKNESS AND COOKY CORP GERMANY
Die Fremdenlegion
0
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Posted - 2014.04.08 12:42:00 -
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It ain't that easy with the market as many think it would be. Especially if it's linked to the EvE market. This is the main reason, why we haven't seen it implemented yet.
Some questions:
Will it be possible for mercs to travel around in the EvE-system?
If no, there will be always capitalistic smartasses sitting in the main "merc-systems" buying cheap and selling expensive, due to their wallet balance. If yes, how would it look like travelling? Would the system the merc is located influence the locations he will fight in or is trading?
All of this may sound very interesting, but to implement it need complex analysis. And of course, CCP needs to know in which direction they want to go in the future. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
Death Firm.
522
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Posted - 2014.04.08 13:08:00 -
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tbh it took years of gradual reduction of npc supplied items in eve and i think when market comes out anything Militia would more than liekly stay NPC so new players have some form of stability.
Rolling with the punches
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
3266
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Posted - 2014.04.08 13:20:00 -
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Be great if CCP just pulled the rug out from under everyone
PC battles now consist of fighting in basic and mlt gear lol with BPO usage off the scale |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1989
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Posted - 2014.04.08 14:10:00 -
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Lots of officer weapons I'm never going to use.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
3550
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Posted - 2014.04.08 14:20:00 -
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The removal of NPC market would almost have to hinge on mining and eventual BPC production, more than a buyback option in our current market. A totally separate player market would suffice for the immediate future, allowing us to buy/sell/trade specialty items.
I GÖú Kittens.
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Joey-Number1
Maniacal Miners INC
No Safe Haven
83
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Posted - 2014.04.08 14:27:00 -
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You guys realize, that the items have their own materials, and the prices would eventually get to the production cost. I think the materials to produce dust items will be carefully designed, to have that price of an NPC sell orders, maybe it will go even cheaper sometimes. Will be interesting to see.
Minmatar Logistics since the beginning.
Mass Driver my first and the only fully specialized weapon.
Explorer.
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Evolution-7
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
435
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Posted - 2014.04.08 14:33:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:And somehow we had fully functioning industry, market mechanics and supply lines set up
would they remove the NPC market?
In other words, would the price be hard-capped at 57k for a proto suit?
NPC market will remain.
Veteran Pilot
"Fight on and fly on to the last drop of blood and the last drop of fuel, to the last beat of the heart."
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Spirax Sarco
Swiss Bank of New Eden
25
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Posted - 2014.04.08 23:24:00 -
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what happens is I'm gonna transfer hundreds of millions of isk to a guy at the 'Thale's Armament Company'......
C.R.E.A.M.
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Mr Retsof VI
Thale's Armament Company
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Posted - 2014.04.08 23:28:00 -
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then i'm gonna buy every f'in Thale's on the market.....
Launch Day+3 Vet--Full time Sniper--Part time Bomber
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anaboop
NECROM0NGERS
Caps and Mercs
23
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Posted - 2014.04.08 23:30:00 -
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Isk wipe with the release of market :)
In the moment when I understand my enemy, well enough to defeat him, I also love him. And then I destroy him.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Nova Corps Marines
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4709
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Posted - 2014.04.08 23:44:00 -
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Doctor Day wrote:sell all my rare weapons and aur suits
Day one would have the worst prices, at least for rare stuff.
I would wait a long time for the value on limited-edition stuff to go up rather than throwing them out day 1
I'm from the weird side of the internet
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
141
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Posted - 2014.04.09 00:03:00 -
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I feel like I have to state the obvious. There will not be a player market for a very long time. If they have time to work on a player market then they should scrap it and work out the bugs in the game. |
Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc
Top Men.
1050
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Posted - 2014.04.09 00:32:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I'd watch burning angel pornagraphic videos as always.
Thanks. SO MUCH.(sarcasm)
Not my cup of tea, but interesting to know at least.
Sometimes ya just feel like surfin
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
648
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Posted - 2014.04.09 00:39:00 -
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my guess is that only adv and ptoto items will be manufactured
It'll help define roles, i promise:)
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