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Buwaro Draemon Science For Death 139	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:11:00 - [1] - Quote I really love the Minmatar Commando suit. Plus it's bonus towards one of my favorite weapons is awesome. But it's way too weak and slow. Plus horrible slot layouts. A small buff could do this suit justice, either buff it's speed slightly or give it 5% more eHP. Or it maybe that I am just not fitting it properly. -Adv CR -Exo-5 MDs -2 enhanced shield extenders -enhanced armor repper - Std Nanohives I tried running this suit with a Kinkat but I was dying way more often than with my armor repper. So what are your say on this suit? tries to flank gets butt raped by cloaked scout K den
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3405	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:14:00 - [2] - Quote You are indeed fitting it improperly. If you're going to fit extenders, fit complex. Otherwise fit damage mods. It's one of the only suits you can justify it on.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4197	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:18:00 - [3] - Quote Ummm if you think the current commandos are bad, than you missed pre 1.8 stats Alpha Response Command (ALREC) The premier training corp for commandos. Apply today!
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1167	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:18:00 - [4] - Quote Why don't you try strapping some kincats onto it? I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Buwaro Draemon Science For Death 139	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:20:00 - [5] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: You are indeed fitting it improperly. If you're going to fit extenders, fit complex. Otherwise fit damage mods. It's one of the only suits you can justify it on. You're not a sentinel, you're an assault with more offensive potential than defensive potential. Geographical positioning is your ally. You are not meant to soak up hits, you're meant to dish them out. So make sure cover is doing work for you. Dont have any complex shields as I use to armor tank in the past. And I never stay to defend a place. I'll die quicker if I do that. I just sit behind the frontlines giving cover fire/suppresive fire to my teammates. But the suit is too weak and too slow for its intended role. I would rather have a slight speed buff on it. tries to flank gets butt raped by cloaked scout K den
Buwaro Draemon Science For Death 139	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:22:00 - [6] - Quote Spademan wrote: Why don't you try strapping some kincats onto it? I did. I died way more often with the kinkats rather than my armor repper. tries to flank gets butt raped by cloaked scout K den
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3406	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:22:00 - [7] - Quote Spademan wrote: Why don't you try strapping some kincats onto it? Ignore this comment. That's about the worst thing you can do. If you were going to do that, you would be going Gal Sent because it can do the rushdown heavy much better with its slot allocation and base stats. Min commando can't make it work to comparable levels. Minimando has three important roles. Masshole camper on point defense is one of them. mid-range support skirmisher is another. You don't want to be at the front if you can avoid it, but if the enemies fire is being drawn to someone closer you can dish out more damage than they can. The other role is siege breaker, which is the opposite of point defender. Minimando is just about the only thing that can separate a pack of fatmen from their logis through use of mass driver splash, so get to elevation and do it right.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1254	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:30:00 - [8] - Quote All commandos are hard too run, definitely the hardest in the game IMO. Granted as someone (I think it was Prometheus) pointed out to me, you can't really run it as an assault. You need a squad, for solo play the suit is garbage. In my case I can definitely say most of my Calmmando deaths come when I am outnumbered or I get cocky with my ARR and try to do some more in close fighting. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3811	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:31:00 - [9] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: I really love the Minmatar Commando suit. Plus it's bonus towards one of my favorite weapons is awesome. But it's way too weak and slow. Plus horrible slot layouts. A small buff could do this suit justice, either buff it's speed slightly or give it 5% more eHP. Or it maybe that I am just not fitting it properly. -Adv CR -Exo-5 MDs -2 enhanced shield extenders -enhanced armor repper - Std Nanohives I tried running this suit with a Kinkat but I was dying way more often than with my armor repper. So what are your say on this suit? KinCat, armour rep and damage mods. Combine that with at least one assault CR and you'll always have fun with this suit. Just don't go running into the frontlines like you're an Assault or Sentinel. No.
Christiphoros von Poe Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 305	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:34:00 - [10] - Quote I run the exact same suit except with Complex extenders. It is a pretty good suit. If you can, just get those complex extenders. (1) "Exile" Assault Rifle reserved for: Fire of Prometheus Uprising->Replication->E3->Codex->Chromosome->Uprising->???

Buwaro Draemon Science For Death 140	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:35:00 - [11] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: I really love the Minmatar Commando suit. Plus it's bonus towards one of my favorite weapons is awesome. But it's way too weak and slow. Plus horrible slot layouts. A small buff could do this suit justice, either buff it's speed slightly or give it 5% more eHP. Or it maybe that I am just not fitting it properly. -Adv CR -Exo-5 MDs -2 enhanced shield extenders -enhanced armor repper - Std Nanohives I tried running this suit with a Kinkat but I was dying way more often than with my armor repper. So what are your say on this suit? KinCat, armour rep and damage mods. Combine that with at least one assault CR and you'll always have fun with this suit. Just don't go running into the frontlines like you're an Assault or Sentinel. I run Adv Minimando suit so it only has 2 highs and 1 low "tries to flank" "gets butt raped by cloaked scout" K den
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1711	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:44:00 - [12] - Quote All about the gank with the suit... CR... Mass driver... Mix it up and everyone is dead before they realize.. that suit is all about positioning... Shields need to be complex only because the terrible parity between STD, ADV and PROTO. 22HP Std Shield Extender, 33hp Advanced, 66HP Complex... Then plus your efficacy bonus of having the skill to level 5 for the 66hp Extender. Otherwise an Enhanced damage mod and literally focusing on taking them out before they do you is the way to run it.. And positioning yourself so you can hit and take cover... or hit and run.. Just remember your damage bonus, Your health and what your enemy is wearing.
Buwaro Draemon Science For Death 140	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:46:00 - [13] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: All commandos are hard too run, definitely the hardest in the game IMO. Granted as someone (I think it was Prometheus) pointed out to me, you can't really run it as an assault. You need a squad, for solo play the suit is garbage. In my case I can definitely say most of my Calmmando deaths come when I am outnumbered or I get cocky with my ARR and try to do some more in close fighting. I have to admit, cocky moments are the worst of my downfall in my Minimando suit. But I always and mostly always try to stay behind the frontlines giving suppressive fire to my teammeates. But I just die way too quickly. "tries to flank" "gets butt raped by cloaked scout" K den
Dimmu Borgir II The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 305	Posted - 2014.04.07 21:56:00 - [14] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: You are indeed fitting it improperly. If you're going to fit extenders, fit complex. Otherwise fit damage mods. It's one of the only suits you can justify it on. You're not a sentinel, you're an assault with more offensive potential than defensive potential. Geographical positioning is your ally. You are not meant to soak up hits, you're meant to dish them out. So make sure cover is doing work for you. Dont have any complex shields as I use to armor tank in the past. And I never stay to defend a place. I'll die quicker if I do that. I just sit behind the frontlines giving cover fire/suppresive fire to my teammates. But the suit is too weak and too slow for its intended role. I would rather have a slight speed buff on it. Then definitely stick a comlex damage mod on instead of an advanced shield extender, the 33 extra hp aren't gonna make any difference anyway whereas the 5% damage mod on this suit definitely will... I love my Mini Commando in certain situations, try to put at least K2 nanohives on there too, they're very useful if you get in an advantageous and elevated position. Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
Buwaro Draemon Science For Death 142	Posted - 2014.04.07 22:15:00 - [15] - Quote Dimmu Borgir II wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: You are indeed fitting it improperly. If you're going to fit extenders, fit complex. Otherwise fit damage mods. It's one of the only suits you can justify it on. You're not a sentinel, you're an assault with more offensive potential than defensive potential. Geographical positioning is your ally. You are not meant to soak up hits, you're meant to dish them out. So make sure cover is doing work for you. Dont have any complex shields as I use to armor tank in the past. And I never stay to defend a place. I'll die quicker if I do that. I just sit behind the frontlines giving cover fire/suppresive fire to my teammates. But the suit is too weak and too slow for its intended role. I would rather have a slight speed buff on it. Then definitely stick a comlex damage mod on instead of an advanced shield extender, the 33 extra hp aren't gonna make any difference anyway whereas the 5% damage mod on this suit definitely will... I love my Mini Commando in certain situations, try to put at least K2 nanohives on there too, they're very useful if you get in an advantageous and elevated position. Will do buddy. Thanks! "tries to flank" "gets butt raped by cloaked scout" K den
Doctor Day THE SUPERHEROS 38	Posted - 2014.04.07 22:22:00 - [16] - Quote Give us commadnos our built in reps back! Obvious troll is Obvious
Boot Booter Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 379	Posted - 2014.04.07 22:24:00 - [17] - Quote Well.. One as many people mentioned dont use enhanced extenders. Actually the enhanced shield extenders are probably the worst module in the game in terms of bonus to fitting cost. You are better off with basic as they are much cheaper and easier to fit for only 11 ish HP difference. I'd recommend one shield extender and one shield recharger.. Two minmatar does not believe in armor reps. A proper minmatar carries a rep tool and relies on fellow minmatar bros to repair armor. You'd be better of with the kincat. Just remember you are a shield oriented suit.. If your shields are getting low use your superior speed to find cover.
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 395	Posted - 2014.04.07 22:24:00 - [18] - Quote the suit works wonders in cover and with a supporting squad it's terrible caught out in the open alone i spotted my first cloaked commando the other day trying to act as an infiltrator. it was epicly fail u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
JP Acuna Pendejitos Canis Eliminatus Operatives 120	Posted - 2014.04.07 23:23:00 - [19] - Quote I remember you! You killed me like 2 times with the MD when i tried to sneak up on you in my scout suit in dumb ways. I finally got you when i gave up on the shotgun and used the SMG instead, but i had to wait until you were shooting at someone else with the CR, because in an earlier attempt you could hear my flux grenade cooking and got away. Your awareness is great, but you were apparently running solo and moving like an assault. My best experience in commando is staying in a place with a nice view, and only move to a new position when strictly needed, hopefully using a vehicle. Staying low profile is also important, so supportive fire and quick kills are essential, being among blues in a safe location is the best.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4973	Posted - 2014.04.07 23:26:00 - [20] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: You are indeed fitting it improperly. If you're going to fit extenders, fit complex. Otherwise fit damage mods. It's one of the only suits you can justify it on. You're not a sentinel, you're an assault with more offensive potential than defensive potential. Geographical positioning is your ally. You are not meant to soak up hits, you're meant to dish them out. So make sure cover is doing work for you. Dont have any complex shields as I use to armor tank in the past. And I never stay to defend a place. I'll die quicker if I do that. I just sit behind the frontlines giving cover fire/suppresive fire to my teammates. But the suit is too weak and too slow for its intended role. I would rather have a slight speed buff on it. TRy running a pre 1.8 Commando with 500HP (at all passives Lv5) with 1 high slot and 2 low slots at proto level and a joke of a bonus .... Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread

McFurious TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 705	Posted - 2014.04.07 23:47:00 - [21] - Quote I just put complex damage mods in my high's, couple of proto light weapons, adv/proto nanohive, complex repper, enhanced armor plate or something. Like someone else said, it's for dishing out damage not absorbing it. Think of it as a Heavy Assault suit. Half Irish. Often angry. Closed Beta Masshole
Buwaro Draemon Science For Death 143	Posted - 2014.04.07 23:50:00 - [22] - Quote JP Acuna wrote: I remember you! You killed me like 2 times with the MD when i tried to sneak up on you in my scout suit in dumb ways. I finally got you when i gave up on the shotgun and used the SMG instead, but i had to wait until you were shooting at someone else with the CR, because in an earlier attempt you could hear my flux grenade cooking and got away. Your awareness is great, but you were apparently running solo and moving like an assault. My best experience in commando is staying in a place with a nice view, and only move to a new position when strictly needed, hopefully using a vehicle. Staying low profile is also important, so supportive fire and quick kills are essential, being among blues in a safe location is the best. I've been at this game for nearly 2 years now. Battle awareness is something I learned the hard way. And yes. I almost always run solo. I'm not very talktive and I get distracted by comms. Most of the time I play better solo rather than as a full squad. And my playstly mostly consists of flanking around and peeking over corners. If you ever see me using my Minimando as Assault then that means I got cocky and decided to kill no matter what it took "tries to flank" "gets butt raped by cloaked scout" K den
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns 115	Posted - 2014.04.08 00:00:00 - [23] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: Two minmatar does not believe in armor reps. A proper minmatar carries a rep tool and relies on fellow minmatar bros to repair armor. You'd be better of with the kincat. Just remember you are a shield oriented suit.. If your shields are getting low use your superior speed to find cover. repper > kincat RP all you want but you'll die less with a repper. 3/10 Federal Marines -- 1/10 Republic Command Matari Commando Pride -- Mass Driver Specialist
Thang Bausch Pierrot Le Fou Industries 93	Posted - 2014.04.08 00:54:00 - [24] - Quote With an advanced suit, I usually run two advanced weapons, normal nanohive, and complex repper. I have been debating complex extender+Adv recharger, or complex extender+complex dmg mod. The suit is easy to die in, particularly for the slow speed. only one extender and the recharger embraces the from cover or with a squad philosophy of the suite. I assume there is a stacking penalty with the complex dmg mod and the suit's racial dmg bonus (and weapon proficiency), which makes me wonder what the value of the complex dmg mod is if it gets penalized to a much lower value. if I'm wrong on that stacking penalty, then this a good option. As far as weapons, i have been loving the MD + LR combo. No racial dmg bonus on the LR, but taking down shields and some armor until the person takes cover and then killing them in cover with the MD splash damage has worked well. I always play alone, so this only works well if I keep my distance and everyone is distracted and no scouts come after me. Otherwise, I die as often as I kill (or worse). The other (obvious) weapon combo I use on an adv suit is proto SL and basic CR. I have a MD/CR fit to maximize the dmg bonus, but I have barely tried it because I love the MD/LR combo so much. the lack of aim assist on the LR has me thinking I should switch to KBM for the easier mouse aiming, but the learning curve of switching to KBM when I have never played a FPS using that method is very, very steep. I tried 2 matches using KBM and found aiming more accurate by the second match, but I was so mind-boggingly unable to perform even basic movement that I died relentlessly.
Buwaro Draemon Science For Death 143	Posted - 2014.04.08 13:54:00 - [25] - Quote Thang Bausch wrote: With an advanced suit, I usually run two advanced weapons, normal nanohive, and complex repper. I have been debating complex extender+Adv recharger, or complex extender+complex dmg mod. The suit is easy to die in, particularly for the slow speed. only one extender and the recharger embraces the from cover or with a squad philosophy of the suite. I assume there is a stacking penalty with the complex dmg mod and the suit's racial dmg bonus (and weapon proficiency), which makes me wonder what the value of the complex dmg mod is if it gets penalized to a much lower value. if I'm wrong on that stacking penalty, then this a good option. As far as weapons, i have been loving the MD + LR combo. No racial dmg bonus on the LR, but taking down shields and some armor until the person takes cover and then killing them in cover with the MD splash damage has worked well. I always play alone, so this only works well if I keep my distance and everyone is distracted and no scouts come after me. Otherwise, I die as often as I kill (or worse). The other (obvious) weapon combo I use on an adv suit is proto SL and basic CR. I have a MD/CR fit to maximize the dmg bonus, but I have barely tried it because I love the MD/LR combo so much. the lack of aim assist on the LR has me thinking I should switch to KBM for the easier mouse aiming, but the learning curve of switching to KBM when I have never played a FPS using that method is very, very steep. I tried 2 matches using KBM and found aiming more accurate by the second match, but I was so mind-boggingly unable to perform even basic movement that I died relentlessly. I use the MD/CR combo. I use my CR to kill while I use my MD to make the enemy run in every direction and finish them off with my CR ;) "tries to flank" "gets butt raped by cloaked scout" K den
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1378	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:05:00 - [26] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: I really love the Minmatar Commando suit. Plus it's bonus towards one of my favorite weapons is awesome. But it's way too weak and slow. Plus horrible slot layouts. A small buff could do this suit justice, either buff it's speed slightly or give it 5% more eHP. Or it maybe that I am just not fitting it properly. -Adv CR -Exo-5 MDs -2 enhanced shield extenders -enhanced armor repper - Std Nanohives I tried running this suit with a Kinkat but I was dying way more often than with my armor repper. So what are your say on this suit? Very good setup...
Mordecai Sanguine What The French Red Whines. 552	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:08:00 - [27] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: I really love the Minmatar Commando suit. Plus it's bonus towards one of my favorite weapons is awesome. But it's way too weak and slow. Plus horrible slot layouts. A small buff could do this suit justice, either buff it's speed slightly or give it 5% more eHP. Or it maybe that I am just not fitting it properly. -Adv CR -Exo-5 MDs -2 enhanced shield extenders -enhanced armor repper - Std Nanohives I tried running this suit with a Kinkat but I was dying way more often than with my armor repper. So what are your say on this suit? Your fitting option are well...bad for this meta. Your weapons are fine. Remove your shield extender and fits Damage mods (Enhanced or basic, not complex). Remove your armor repper and fit an Enhanced Plate. Remove your Nanohive STD and fit a Compact nanohive to heal you and ressuply.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2157	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:11:00 - [28] - Quote No stacking penalty on skill dmg bonuses and dmg mods. Dmg.mods are made for commandos!! Alt#1 Scout gk.0 - ScR, CR, RR, PLC, SMG Alt#2 Madrugar - Ion Cannon Alt#3 Commando gk.0 - Shotgun, AR
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 166	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:26:00 - [29] - Quote Minmatar needs a speed buff for all suits. Minmatar all the way. Weapon sp refund please
Joey-Number1 Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven 83	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:32:00 - [30] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Spademan wrote: Why don't you try strapping some kincats onto it? I did. I died way more often with the kinkats rather than my armor repper. Because you think you can soak up hits like a sentinel, that is not the commando's thing. It is indeed like a medium frame with more offensive capabilities. Minmatar Logistics since the beginning. Mass Driver my first and the only fully specialized weapon. Explorer.

Repe Susi Rautaleijona 1199	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:33:00 - [31] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: I really love the Minmatar Commando suit. Plus it's bonus towards one of my favorite weapons is awesome. But it's way too weak and slow. Plus horrible slot layouts. A small buff could do this suit justice, either buff it's speed slightly or give it 5% more eHP. Or it maybe that I am just not fitting it properly. -Adv CR -Exo-5 MDs -2 enhanced shield extenders -enhanced armor repper - Std Nanohives I tried running this suit with a Kinkat but I was dying way more often than with my armor repper. So what are your say on this suit? I'm strong proponent of shield/armor damage so change either one of the weapons to Scr. Charged shot from even basic Scr takes down the shields. Change the weapon and eat up the armor. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2310	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:39:00 - [32] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: I really love the Minmatar Commando suit. Plus it's bonus towards one of my favorite weapons is awesome. But it's way too weak and slow. Plus horrible slot layouts. A small buff could do this suit justice, either buff it's speed slightly or give it 5% more eHP. Or it maybe that I am just not fitting it properly. -Adv CR -Exo-5 MDs -2 enhanced shield extenders -enhanced armor repper - Std Nanohives I tried running this suit with a Kinkat but I was dying way more often than with my armor repper. So what are your say on this suit? Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle Freedom Mass Driver Enhanced Armor Repper 2x Complex Light Damage Mod Ishukone Guaged NH It does good work. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Be'e Po Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:39:00 - [33] - Quote I run an uplink for my equipment, but otherwise, about the same setup. I like the uplink because i can drop one when flanking a position and what was once me distracting from the flank can become a full assault.
Supacharjed Alpha Response Command 27	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:44:00 - [34] - Quote It's either Damage mods or Complex extenders. Pick one. Everything else is fine, provided you are playing Minimando as you should. I only roll with KinCats on my Proto Minimando. Diehard Commandbro. Part Time Ninja Turtle Full Time Badass.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2157	Posted - 2014.04.08 14:49:00 - [35] - Quote Enhanced damage mods are King! Alt#1 Scout gk.0 - ScR, CR, RR, PLC, SMG Alt#2 Madrugar - Ion Cannon Alt#3 Commando gk.0 - Shotgun, AR
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 376	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:03:00 - [36] - Quote I went with an enhanced Dam mod Complex Ener Complex Rep. with K-2 hives or Compact if I'm running with an EC-3. Plan to switch to K-2/D and Com Kins when I get one more point into Nanos (Was a Heavy all this time ...never needed it till now lol) I figure I'm too squishy to be a meat shield so kill em an focus on quickly getting back to a decent health before the next engagement .... and always plan to run away ! No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1045	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:11:00 - [37] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: I really love the Minmatar Commando suit. Plus it's bonus towards one of my favorite weapons is awesome. But it's way too weak and slow. Plus horrible slot layouts. A small buff could do this suit justice, either buff it's speed slightly or give it 5% more eHP. Or it maybe that I am just not fitting it properly. -Adv CR -Exo-5 MDs -2 enhanced shield extenders -enhanced armor repper - Std Nanohives I tried running this suit with a Kinkat but I was dying way more often than with my armor repper. So what are your say on this suit? Allotek Nanohive (R) Uprising 1.8 - Invisible War
Temias Mercurial Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 44	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:26:00 - [38] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Spademan wrote: Why don't you try strapping some kincats onto it? Ignore this comment. That's about the worst thing you can do. If you were going to do that, you would be going Gal Sent because it can do the rushdown heavy much better with its slot allocation and base stats. Min commando can't make it work to comparable levels. Minimando has three important roles. Masshole camper on point defense is one of them. mid-range support skirmisher is another. You don't want to be at the front if you can avoid it, but if the enemies fire is being drawn to someone closer you can dish out more damage than they can. The other role is siege breaker, which is the opposite of point defender. Minimando is just about the only thing that can separate a pack of fatmen from their logis through use of mass driver splash, so get to elevation and do it right. I put kin kats on both my Minmatar sentinel and commando... it's amazing with the stamina regen. The key is flanking, which isn't too difficult. My logis have trouble keeping up with me. The burst HMG will destroy people when you can get in quick and run right out.
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 256	Posted - 2014.04.08 15:29:00 - [39] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Allotek Nanohive (R) Precisely, this should be what every Mando runs in it's equipment slot, regardless of race. Stack plates, put one of these down where ever you engage. If you wanna be cheap in pubs run the k17r.
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 168	Posted - 2014.04.08 17:09:00 - [40] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: I really love the Minmatar Commando suit. Plus it's bonus towards one of my favorite weapons is awesome. But it's way too weak and slow. Plus horrible slot layouts. A small buff could do this suit justice, either buff it's speed slightly or give it 5% more eHP. Or it maybe that I am just not fitting it properly. -Adv CR -Exo-5 MDs -2 enhanced shield extenders -enhanced armor repper - Std Nanohives I tried running this suit with a Kinkat but I was dying way more often than with my armor repper. So what are your say on this suit? Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle Freedom Mass Driver Enhanced Armor Repper 2x Complex Light Damage Mod Ishukone Guaged NH It does good work. that must be expensive! Minmatar all the way. Weapon sp refund please

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3424	Posted - 2014.04.08 17:55:00 - [41] - Quote Enhanced damage mods? What the hell are you guys smoking? Complex. Always complex. If you can't run complex you shouldn't even be running the suit.
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 336	Posted - 2014.04.08 18:01:00 - [42] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Enhanced damage mods? What the hell are you guys smoking? Complex. Always complex. If you can't run complex you shouldn't even be running the suit. really??? 1% makes that big of a difference for all those resources? Pre 1.8 yes - post I think not "Shine bright like a diamond"
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 322	Posted - 2014.04.08 18:14:00 - [43] - Quote Commando befuddles me. Fittings are soooo low. They have the least amount of slots in the game. They have more base HP than assault but they're sooooo much slower, with 2 less slots. The fact that they can carry 2 light weapons doesn't make up for all that. If you want to use a mass driver, better to use a sentinel and carry a Magsec.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 440	Posted - 2014.04.08 18:23:00 - [44] - Quote Thang Bausch wrote: With an advanced suit, I usually run two advanced weapons, normal nanohive, and complex repper. I have been debating complex extender+Adv recharger, or complex extender+complex dmg mod. The suit is easy to die in, particularly for the slow speed. only one extender and the recharger embraces the from cover or with a squad philosophy of the suite. I assume there is a stacking penalty with the complex dmg mod and the suit's racial dmg bonus (and weapon proficiency), which makes me wonder what the value of the complex dmg mod is if it gets penalized to a much lower value. if I'm wrong on that stacking penalty, then this a good option. As far as weapons, i have been loving the MD + LR combo. No racial dmg bonus on the LR, but taking down shields and some armor until the person takes cover and then killing them in cover with the MD splash damage has worked well. I always play alone, so this only works well if I keep my distance and everyone is distracted and no scouts come after me. Otherwise, I die as often as I kill (or worse). The other (obvious) weapon combo I use on an adv suit is proto SL and basic CR. I have a MD/CR fit to maximize the dmg bonus, but I have barely tried it because I love the MD/LR combo so much. the lack of aim assist on the LR has me thinking I should switch to KBM for the easier mouse aiming, but the learning curve of switching to KBM when I have never played a FPS using that method is very, very steep. I tried 2 matches using KBM and found aiming more accurate by the second match, but I was so mind-boggingly unable to perform even basic movement that I died relentlessly. I've seen people mention the Frag Shark X?, something like that, which is the left controller coupled with a mouse. It sounds like it might work for you. Because, that's why.
Buwaro Draemon Science For Death 144	Posted - 2014.04.08 18:25:00 - [45] - Quote Joey-Number1 wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Spademan wrote: Why don't you try strapping some kincats onto it? I did. I died way more often with the kinkats rather than my armor repper. Because you think you can soak up hits like a sentinel, that is not the commando's thing. It is indeed like a medium frame with more offensive capabilities. I am not a defender .-. My play style consists of either flanking or full on frontlines. But this suit is too expensive to waste on the frontlines. "tries to flank" "gets butt raped by cloaked scout" K den
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 322	Posted - 2014.04.08 18:41:00 - [46] - Quote Actually, Caldari scout might be the best for mass driver. You can expand your range far enough to see all your artillery targets and can maintain situational awareness via minimap. You can also get to your spot quickly and GTFO quickly. And you won't run out of ammo. I just don't see how Commandos are at all worthwhile.
EverNub Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION 38	Posted - 2014.04.08 18:48:00 - [47] - Quote I Run Adv/Pro Min Commando and i do just fine! Maybe its because i have 30 mil sp and have all my Core Skills maxed to 5, really helps my EHP and my Fittings. I feel the suit is very well made much better then the old Amarr commando, the slot layout was horrible for sure. Commandos are all about tactics...I usually run Proto Swarms and a Mass Driver or Mass Driver and Combat Rifle depending on the Map or if there are Tanks or Drop ships that need to die. Really u need to get up somewhere high or work as a team and stay in cover. Also i noticed no one actually strafes anymore except for the old Vets that know how important it is. 3 Rules to Live by in Dust: 1. Don't stop moving 2. Stay in Cover 3. Stay with a Squad What is the use of fighting if you haven't got a tolerable planet to fight over? 30 Mil SP Commando/Logi Grandmaster
Thanjac Ruthless Chaos 146	Posted - 2014.04.08 19:07:00 - [48] - Quote I don't run my ADV very often, but when I do my fit will look something like that, but change the enhanced rep to complex rep, and I am starting to put a precision enhancer on my fit, just basic right now, but soon to be ADV, the other high is a enhanced shield extender, will have complex after event. Minnando Lord, FEAR MY MD & CR "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Deltahawk Durango Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 191	Posted - 2014.04.08 19:47:00 - [49] - Quote if it wasn't said on page 2 or 3, use complex shield extenders from LP store (or AUR versions if ya got the dough) until you get your event SP... then definitely spec into lvl 5 extenders... 73 hp per module is significantly better than what you currently have.. the pg cost may force you to stick with compact hives but your survivability will increase... I don't believe in an eye for an eye... I believe in two eyes for an eye!
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 378	Posted - 2014.04.08 20:21:00 - [50] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Commando befuddles me. Fittings are soooo low. They have the least amount of slots in the game. They have more base HP than assault but they're sooooo much slower, with 2 less slots. The fact that they can carry 2 light weapons doesn't make up for all that. If you want to use a mass driver, better to use a sentinel and carry a Magsec. Slow ? I can out run medium suits in this thing. With the Stam reg I can get to any spot on the map pretty quick .. a VAST improvement over the old Amarr basic heavy I used to have . The bonuses to two of my favorite weapons behind the Forge is cake on top of that . That said .....I play what I like to play regardless. No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .

Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3428	Posted - 2014.04.08 20:32:00 - [51] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Enhanced damage mods? What the hell are you guys smoking? Complex. Always complex. If you can't run complex you shouldn't even be running the suit. really??? 1% makes that big of a difference for all those resources? Pre 1.8 yes - post I think not It's closer to 1.9%, actually, when you take in the stacking penalty 7.6% versus 9.5%. After 6 MD volleys you'll only be looking at around a 26 damage difference (this is ignoring proficiency, which actually makes the difference even greater), but that can mean the difference between life or death when someone is being sieged in a cargo hub. Furthermore, it comes down to your role. As a mid-range skirmisher you shouldn't be the first target, therefore defenses are not your primary concern. Squeezing out every inch of offense is. As a high-ground bombardment guy, you shouldn't be taking much damage anyway so you have literally no excuse not to go full damage. If someone dedicates enough resources to send a dropship up after you, then they are going to come with enough firepower to get you off of the highground regardless of how well you tank your suit. This renders defense useless yet again. The environment is your shield, not your suit. If you're unwilling to maximize the role your suit is exemplary in, you shouldn't be running that suit. You're basically just wasting a team slot and letting everybody else down.
EverNub Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION 39	Posted - 2014.04.08 21:15:00 - [52] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Master Smurf wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Enhanced damage mods? What the hell are you guys smoking? Complex. Always complex. If you can't run complex you shouldn't even be running the suit. really??? 1% makes that big of a difference for all those resources? Pre 1.8 yes - post I think not It's closer to 1.9%, actually, when you take in the stacking penalty 7.6% versus 9.5%. After 6 MD volleys you'll only be looking at around a 26 damage difference (this is ignoring proficiency, which actually makes the difference even greater), but that can mean the difference between life or death when someone is being sieged in a cargo hub. Furthermore, it comes down to your role. As a mid-range skirmisher you shouldn't be the first target, therefore defenses are not your primary concern. Squeezing out every inch of offense is. As a high-ground bombardment guy, you shouldn't be taking much damage anyway so you have literally no excuse not to go full damage. If someone dedicates enough resources to send a dropship up after you, then they are going to come with enough firepower to get you off of the highground regardless of how well you tank your suit. This renders defense useless yet again. The environment is your shield, not your suit. If you're unwilling to maximize the role your suit is exemplary in, you shouldn't be running that suit. You're basically just wasting a team slot and letting everybody else down. So true! Mostly its getting in good position, staying up high to use the MD to its full potential, and staying behind cover to not expose urself to snipers and ADS. What is the use of fighting if you haven't got a tolerable planet to fight over? 30 Mil SP Commando/Logi Grandmaster
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 353	Posted - 2014.04.08 21:42:00 - [53] - Quote It is sad when an assault or even scout can have more hp than a commando heavy
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 116	Posted - 2014.04.09 00:46:00 - [54] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Enhanced damage mods? What the hell are you guys smoking? Complex. Always complex. If you can't run complex you shouldn't even be running the suit. That's a bit extreme of a viewpoint. So no. zzZaXxx wrote: Commando befuddles me. Fittings are soooo low. They have the least amount of slots in the game. They have more base HP than assault but they're sooooo much slower, with 2 less slots. The fact that they can carry 2 light weapons doesn't make up for all that. If you want to use a mass driver, better to use a sentinel and carry a Magsec. Unless you want that fat 10% damage bonus on top of mods that Sentinels don't get. zzZaXxx wrote: Actually, Caldari scout might be the best for mass driver. You can expand your range far enough to see all your artillery targets and can maintain situational awareness via minimap. You can also get to your spot quickly and GTFO quickly. And you won't run out of ammo. I just don't see how Commandos are at all worthwhile. 3/10 Federal Marines -- 1/10 Republic Command Matari Commando Pride -- Mass Driver Specialist
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3433	Posted - 2014.04.09 01:10:00 - [55] - Quote Zaaeed Massani wrote: That's a bit extreme of a viewpoint. So no. It's not extreme at all. This is a black-and-white issue. A suit is good for a specific thing, and it is subpar in other things. You either use it for what it's good at, or you pick something better. Attitudes like yours are why the majority of teams in PC are garbage.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2217	Posted - 2014.04.09 01:22:00 - [56] - Quote They're not called Mini-mmandos for no reason, you know? Seriously, though. I'd fit 1 CPX Shield Extender, 1 ENH energizer, and 1 ENH regulator. Compact nanohive
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 116	Posted - 2014.04.09 01:52:00 - [57] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Zaaeed Massani wrote: That's a bit extreme of a viewpoint. So no. It's not extreme at all. This is a black-and-white issue. A suit is good for a specific thing, and it is subpar in other things. You either use it for what it's good at, or you pick something better. Attitudes like yours are why the majority of teams in PC are garbage. Oh, please. Saying that you should not run a specific suit strictly because you cannot use a complex damage mod rather than an enhanced damage mod is horseshit, and to suggest anything otherwise is absurd. People should play what is fun. If a Minmatar Commando is fun, they should play it. If it isn't then pick something else. Yes, min/maxing has a place...PC. But the beauty of DUST is that you can play whatever you want, however you want to. And for the record, I don't play PC. So my attitude has, quite literally, NOTHING to do with why the majority of teams in PC aren't good. It also might have something to do with the fact that corps like AE have a lock on...uh...everything. So, back to my original point. No. EDIT: I no want ban. Atiim: The power of CCP's Nerf Bat far exceeds 80GJ. Proud Federal Marine on loan to the Republic Commandos.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3436	Posted - 2014.04.09 03:29:00 - [58] - Quote No, people should play what wins. The goal of a competitive game is to try to win, not to have fun. Fun is merely a happy byproduct you get from the process. If you don't have fun trying to win, you shouldn't be playing competitive games at all. You're wasting everybody elses time that are associated with the game in question. People who claim they play to have fun are confused, horrible people in the same sect as those who talk loudly at the theater with their group of equally ignorant friends. If its the pretty colors on your screen that generate fun (you know, since clearly winning isnt a part of it) I recommend watching movies at home. They too have pretty colors, and some of them even have unicorns and friendship. Best of all, you won't be disrupting other people who actually know the purpose behind competitive gaming. Zaaeed Massani wrote: It also might have something to do with the fact that corps like AE have a lock on...uh...everything. That is also your fault. Were you less of a carebear, that situation would not have developed.
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 382	Posted - 2014.04.09 04:37:00 - [59] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: No, people should play what wins. The goal of a competitive game is to try to win, not to have fun. . Yeaaaahhh I stopped reading this garbage at this point ...... No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
Buwaro Draemon Science For Death 144	Posted - 2014.04.09 18:44:00 - [60] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: No, people should play what wins. Sounds like an FOTM user to me... "tries to flank" "gets butt raped by cloaked scout" K den

Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 124	Posted - 2014.04.09 21:18:00 - [61] - Quote Ooooookay. I'm going to do my best to remain objective here... Himiko Kuronaga wrote: No, people should play what wins. The goal of a competitive game is to try to win, not to have fun. Fun is merely a happy byproduct you get from the process. If you don't have fun trying to win, you shouldn't be playing competitive games at all. You're wasting everybody elses time that are associated with the game in question. Are you a professional gamer? If yes, I applaud this attitude. If not...you need to get laid, my friend. Badly. I know some relatively attractive slutty college chicks that might be willing to help out, should you be interested. Let's take an objective look at the definition of a "game"... game, noun \-êg-üm\: a physical or mental activity or contest that has rules and that people do for pleasure Golly gee, guys! Look! It's about doing something pleasurable! Whatever activity you are describing sounds much more like work, or chores. Hence my comment about professional gaming...since, you know, it is then (by definition) work. Games, by definition, are methods of passing time in a fun manner...there are plenty of corps in DUST that cater to those "hardcore" individuals that care more about winning than having fun. You are in one of the more well-known ones. I'm happy for you that you have found a niche. But don't you dare impose your style of gameplay onto the rest of us. Quote: People who claim they play to have fun are confused, horrible people in the same sect as those who talk loudly at the theater with their group of equally ignorant friends. If its the pretty colors on your screen that generate fun (you know, since clearly winning isnt a part of it) I recommend watching movies at home. They too have pretty colors, and some of them even have unicorns and friendship. Best of all, you won't be disrupting other people who actually know the purpose behind competitive gaming. Is it hard work being this nasty? How long have you been cooped up in your mother's basement playing DUST without even a single beam of sunlight? Seriously, I can't remember the last time I saw someone on a forum try this hard to be a prick. And if you weren't trying extra hard to be a prick, then you have a whole other set of issues to work out. Issues that will likely involve some couch time and pharmacotherapy. Thanks for the thoughtful recommendation. As a matter of fact I do quite enjoy watching movies at home. Actually, my girlfriend and I have intentions of watching a couple tonight after I finish my substantial amount of homework. This whole "let's overload the college seniors because they're about to graduate" gets really old. But first, let me finish pointing out exactly how much of a douchemonster you are. Me playing DUST to have fun disrupts no one. Is winning fun? Yes. Is losing fun? In a close battle, I would say yes. If you and I are playing against each other, FA Q-synced to guarantee a win as best they can and me running with a bunch of random blueberries, or perhaps a single squad from my corp/contact list, who will win? You, clearly. Will it be fun for you? Be honest. Is winning, completely demolishing blueberries (many of whom are new to the game) fun? If yes, were you bullied in school? Yes? Me, too. Get over it. The bully I dealt with still takes my lunch money every day...but he does it with a "Yes, sir" ...and he makes a hell of a sandwich. If no, why do you do it? Do you do it to ruin the NPE? Because I assure you, you are ruining it. Players like you are one of a laundry list of reasons that DUST is struggling and losing players. Granted, there is a HUGE list of things that CCP can and should do to improve the game...but players with an attitude such as yours don't help anything in the slightest. Who gets disrupted? Do you? No, because you get an easy win. Just say thank you, that will suffice. If anyone on my team has an issue with me about the reasons I play, they can ** off. If they want to win that badly, join FA or AE or NS or any other tryhard corp and go Q-sync pubs to protostomp on the new kids. Otherwise, shut up. I'm disrupting no one. Quote: Zaaeed Massani wrote:** It also might have something to do with the fact that corps like AE have a lock on...uh...everything. That is also your fault. Were you less of a carebear, that situation would not have developed. Actually, that has nothing to do with me. Having only 9.4M SP at last count, I am still maxing my cores and getting my weapons/mods/suits to where they need to be in order to be ready for PC. So even if I was a carebear (which I'm not, trust me), I still would have nothing to do with AE being a bunch of domineering tryhards that have ruined PC for everyone else and are now working on ruining FW with these silly contests they've begun to run. (You still owe me that thank you for an easy win) Do you even lift bro? Proud Federal Marine & Republic Commando www.youtube.com/watch?v=OloLS5kTrVs Do you even lift bro?
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4221	Posted - 2014.04.09 21:20:00 - [62] - Quote ^ shots fired Alpha Response Command (ALREC) The premier training corp for commandos. Apply today!
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 124	Posted - 2014.04.09 21:28:00 - [63] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: ^ shots fired I just want to know how many asshats like this have the stones to act this obnoxious in real life, and how many are simply afforded that luxury because of the internet and its wonderful anonymity... I'd bet money that the majority are ~120lb toothpicks that I could pick up and throw through a window. Proud Federal Marine & Republic Commando www.youtube.com/watch?v=OloLS5kTrVs Do you even lift bro?


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