I really love the Minmatar Commando suit. Plus it's bonus towards one of my favorite weapons is awesome.

But it's way too weak and slow. Plus horrible slot layouts.

A small buff could do this suit justice, either buff it's speed slightly or give it 5% more eHP.

Or it maybe that I am just not fitting it properly.

-Adv CR
-Exo-5 MDs
-2 enhanced shield extenders
-enhanced armor repper
- Std Nanohives

I tried running this suit with a Kinkat but I was dying way more often than with my armor repper.

So what are your say on this suit?

I really love the Minmatar Commando suit. Plus it's bonus towards one of my favorite weapons is awesome.

But it's way too weak and slow. Plus horrible slot layouts.

A small buff could do this suit justice, either buff it's speed slightly or give it 5% more eHP.

Or it maybe that I am just not fitting it properly.

-Adv CR
-Exo-5 MDs
-2 enhanced shield extenders
-enhanced armor repper
- Std Nanohives

I tried running this suit with a Kinkat but I was dying way more often than with my armor repper.

So what are your say on this suit?

I really love the Minmatar Commando suit. Plus it's bonus towards one of my favorite weapons is awesome.

But it's way too weak and slow. Plus horrible slot layouts.

A small buff could do this suit justice, either buff it's speed slightly or give it 5% more eHP.

Or it maybe that I am just not fitting it properly.

-Adv CR
-Exo-5 MDs
-2 enhanced shield extenders
-enhanced armor repper
- Std Nanohives

I tried running this suit with a Kinkat but I was dying way more often than with my armor repper.

So what are your say on this suit?

Ignore this comment. That's about the worst thing you can do.

If you were going to do that, you would be going Gal Sent because it can do the rushdown heavy much better with its slot allocation and base stats. Min commando can't make it work to comparable levels.

Minimando has three important roles. Masshole camper on point defense is one of them. mid-range support skirmisher is another. You don't want to be at the front if you can avoid it, but if the enemies fire is being drawn to someone closer you can dish out more damage than they can.

The other role is siege breaker, which is the opposite of point defender. Minimando is just about the only thing that can separate a pack of fatmen from their logis through use of mass driver splash, so get to elevation and do it right.

Allotek Nanohive (R)

Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle
Freedom Mass Driver
Enhanced Armor Repper
2x Complex Light Damage Mod
Ishukone Guaged NH

It does good work.

Enhanced damage mods?

What the hell are you guys smoking? Complex. Always complex.

If you can't run complex you shouldn't even be running the suit.

With an advanced suit, I usually run two advanced weapons, normal nanohive, and complex repper. I have been debating complex extender+Adv recharger, or complex extender+complex dmg mod.

The suit is easy to die in, particularly for the slow speed. only one extender and the recharger embraces the from cover or with a squad philosophy of the suite.

I assume there is a stacking penalty with the complex dmg mod and the suit's racial dmg bonus (and weapon proficiency), which makes me wonder what the value of the complex dmg mod is if it gets penalized to a much lower value. if I'm wrong on that stacking penalty, then this a good option.

As far as weapons, i have been loving the MD + LR combo. No racial dmg bonus on the LR, but taking down shields and some armor until the person takes cover and then killing them in cover with the MD splash damage has worked well. I always play alone, so this only works well if I keep my distance and everyone is distracted and no scouts come after me. Otherwise, I die as often as I kill (or worse).

The other (obvious) weapon combo I use on an adv suit is proto SL and basic CR. I have a MD/CR fit to maximize the dmg bonus, but I have barely tried it because I love the MD/LR combo so much. the lack of aim assist on the LR has me thinking I should switch to KBM for the easier mouse aiming, but the learning curve of switching to KBM when I have never played a FPS using that method is very, very steep. I tried 2 matches using KBM and found aiming more accurate by the second match, but I was so mind-boggingly unable to perform even basic movement that I died relentlessly.

Because you think you can soak up hits like a sentinel, that is not the commando's thing. It is indeed like a medium frame with more offensive capabilities.

Commando befuddles me. Fittings are soooo low. They have the least amount of slots in the game. They have more base HP than assault but they're sooooo much slower, with 2 less slots. The fact that they can carry 2 light weapons doesn't make up for all that.

If you want to use a mass driver, better to use a sentinel and carry a Magsec.

really???

1% makes that big of a difference for all those resources?

Pre 1.8 yes - post I think not

It's closer to 1.9%, actually, when you take in the stacking penalty

7.6% versus 9.5%. After 6 MD volleys you'll only be looking at around a 26 damage difference (this is ignoring proficiency, which actually makes the difference even greater), but that can mean the difference between life or death when someone is being sieged in a cargo hub.

Furthermore, it comes down to your role. As a mid-range skirmisher you shouldn't be the first target, therefore defenses are not your primary concern. Squeezing out every inch of offense is.

As a high-ground bombardment guy, you shouldn't be taking much damage anyway so you have literally no excuse not to go full damage. If someone dedicates enough resources to send a dropship up after you, then they are going to come with enough firepower to get you off of the highground regardless of how well you tank your suit. This renders defense useless yet again.

The environment is your shield, not your suit. If you're unwilling to maximize the role your suit is exemplary in, you shouldn't be running that suit. You're basically just wasting a team slot and letting everybody else down.

Enhanced damage mods?

What the hell are you guys smoking? Complex. Always complex.

If you can't run complex you shouldn't even be running the suit.

Commando befuddles me. Fittings are soooo low. They have the least amount of slots in the game. They have more base HP than assault but they're sooooo much slower, with 2 less slots. The fact that they can carry 2 light weapons doesn't make up for all that.

If you want to use a mass driver, better to use a sentinel and carry a Magsec.

Actually, Caldari scout might be the best for mass driver. You can expand your range far enough to see all your artillery targets and can maintain situational awareness via minimap. You can also get to your spot quickly and GTFO quickly. And you won't run out of ammo.

I just don't see how Commandos are at all worthwhile.

That's a bit extreme of a viewpoint. So no.

It's not extreme at all. This is a black-and-white issue.

A suit is good for a specific thing, and it is subpar in other things. You either use it for what it's good at, or you pick something better.

Attitudes like yours are why the majority of teams in PC are garbage.

It also might have something to do with the fact that corps like AE have a lock on...uh...everything.

No, people should play what wins. The goal of a competitive game is to try to win, not to have fun. .

No, people should play what wins.