DUST Search - Race Advantages?

MINA Longstrike wrote:

XDarkwolffangX wrote:

I was just wondering, does a certain race have an advantage over others? I mean why do they make racial suits if there wasn't some kind of advantage for one or all of the races? Post your thoughts

4 completely different cultures with ~14 000 years of developing their own equipment. The only ones that are even remotely similar are the caldari and gallente, and after two brutal wars, even the civillians still prettymuch just want to see the the other guys dead.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Timeline

The Amarr prioritize efficiency and reliability - which is why they armor tank, pack around powerplants on their back and almost all their weapons operate off of batteries. They operate under highly aggressive but defensive doctrines - they also don't believe in 'rules of engagement', they will commit atrocities just to demoralize you. They favor mid-range defensive strategies.

The Caldari prioritize making each 'soldier' as effective as possible, which is why comparatively they're some of the best equipped and best trained soldiers on average - even though the caldari don't have a standing ground army they're the fastest to mobilize one when necessary because *every* citizen of the state has gone through a mandatory military training period. They're means of making soldiers 'effective' is to give them some of the most high powered long range weaponry, quickly regenerating shields on their dropsuits (which can be adjusted for almost anyone unlike the amarr's), and extensive deployment of equipment (like tanks). They favor long range defensive strategies.

The Minmatar prioritize simple, reliable weaponry and are not above scavenging anything they can from a battlefield to re-equip and rearm, their battle tactics favor mobility, lightning raids and overwhelming force brought to bear unexpectedly. While their conventional 'ballistic' weaponry isn't nearly as high tech or high powered as the other races, it is reliable and versatile. When they *do* favor one style of tank over another it's generally a preference to shields, though most of the minmatar dropsuits are re-purposed civilian gear - the heavy is designed to be a power lifting armor, the mediums are re-purposed starship repair suits etc. They prefer semi-short range multi-prong strikes

The Gallente prioritize overwhelming damage per shot and the durability of armor - but augmented to be quickly repaired. Plasma technology is generally incredibly dangerous to even be *shooting* as an unarmoured civilian, with the plasma rifle being able to melt the flesh off of its shooter, and the 'shotgun' if it lacked the arm brace being capable of ripping the arms off of its shooter then exploding because it wasn't manually flushed with coolant. They prefer to draw you into a close range brawl or ambush and then just punch you in the face over and over and over again.

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XDarkwolffangX Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.04.07 00:01:00 - [1] - Quote I was just wondering, does a certain race have an advantage over others? I mean why do they make racial suits if there wasn't some kind of advantage for one or all of the races? Post your thoughts WOLF LEGEND
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2724	Posted - 2014.04.07 00:03:00 - [2] - Quote Lasers Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Shadowswipe Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 212	Posted - 2014.04.07 00:10:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah. Laser has the style advantage. Other then that, it is all going to get balanced one way or the other over time. Which means Amarr has the only advantage of making style do more DMG.
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4680	Posted - 2014.04.07 00:13:00 - [4] - Quote Minmatar can run faster, longer, jump higher, and steal your LAV faster. I'm not even making this **** up. I'm from the weird side of the internet
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 10324	Posted - 2014.04.07 00:19:00 - [5] - Quote Minmatar = highest speed dropsuits Amarr = HP (armor), and high PG/CPU dropsuits Caldari = best dropsuits for shields Gallente = dropuits have built-in armor repair Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7969	Posted - 2014.04.07 00:22:00 - [6] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Lasers And gold. Amarr are the good guys.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2727	Posted - 2014.04.07 00:24:00 - [7] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Minmatar = highest speed dropsuits Amarr = highest base HP (mainly armor), and high PG/CPU dropsuits Caldari = best dropsuits for shields Gallente = dropuits have built-in armor repair We no longer have the highest Cpu/Pg Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance 432	Posted - 2014.04.07 00:41:00 - [8] - Quote XDarkwolffangX wrote: I was just wondering, does a certain race have an advantage over others? I mean why do they make racial suits if there wasn't some kind of advantage for one or all of the races? Post your thoughts 4 completely different cultures with ~14 000 years of developing their own equipment. The only ones that are even remotely similar are the caldari and gallente, and after two brutal wars, even the civillians still prettymuch just want to see the the other guys dead. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Timeline The Amarr prioritize efficiency and reliability - which is why they armor tank, pack around powerplants on their back and almost all their weapons operate off of batteries. They operate under highly aggressive but defensive doctrines - they also don't believe in 'rules of engagement', they will commit atrocities just to demoralize you. They favor mid-range defensive strategies. The Caldari prioritize making each 'soldier' as effective as possible, which is why comparatively they're some of the best equipped and best trained soldiers on average - even though the caldari don't have a standing ground army they're the fastest to mobilize one when necessary because every citizen of the state has gone through a mandatory military training period. They're means of making soldiers 'effective' is to give them some of the most high powered long range weaponry, quickly regenerating shields on their dropsuits (which can be adjusted for almost anyone unlike the amarr's), and extensive deployment of equipment (like tanks). They favor long range defensive strategies. The Minmatar prioritize simple, reliable weaponry and are not above scavenging anything they can from a battlefield to re-equip and rearm, their battle tactics favor mobility, lightning raids and overwhelming force brought to bear unexpectedly. While their conventional 'ballistic' weaponry isn't nearly as high tech or high powered as the other races, it is reliable and versatile. When they do favor one style of tank over another it's generally a preference to shields, though most of the minmatar dropsuits are re-purposed civilian gear - the heavy is designed to be a power lifting armor, the mediums are re-purposed starship repair suits etc. They prefer semi-short range multi-prong strikes The Gallente prioritize overwhelming damage per shot and the durability of armor - but augmented to be quickly repaired. Plasma technology is generally incredibly dangerous to even be shooting as an unarmoured civilian, with the plasma rifle being able to melt the flesh off of its shooter, and the 'shotgun' if it lacked the arm brace being capable of ripping the arms off of its shooter then exploding because it wasn't manually flushed with coolant. They prefer to draw you into a close range brawl or ambush and then just punch you in the face over and over and over again.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9283	Posted - 2014.04.07 01:22:00 - [9] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: XDarkwolffangX wrote: I was just wondering, does a certain race have an advantage over others? I mean why do they make racial suits if there wasn't some kind of advantage for one or all of the races? Post your thoughts 4 completely different cultures with ~14 000 years of developing their own equipment. The only ones that are even remotely similar are the caldari and gallente, and after two brutal wars, even the civillians still prettymuch just want to see the the other guys dead. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Timeline The Amarr prioritize efficiency and reliability - which is why they armor tank, pack around powerplants on their back and almost all their weapons operate off of batteries. They operate under highly aggressive but defensive doctrines - they also don't believe in 'rules of engagement', they will commit atrocities just to demoralize you. They favor mid-range defensive strategies. The Caldari prioritize making each 'soldier' as effective as possible, which is why comparatively they're some of the best equipped and best trained soldiers on average - even though the caldari don't have a standing ground army they're the fastest to mobilize one when necessary because every citizen of the state has gone through a mandatory military training period. They're means of making soldiers 'effective' is to give them some of the most high powered long range weaponry, quickly regenerating shields on their dropsuits (which can be adjusted for almost anyone unlike the amarr's), and extensive deployment of equipment (like tanks). They favor long range defensive strategies. The Minmatar prioritize simple, reliable weaponry and are not above scavenging anything they can from a battlefield to re-equip and rearm, their battle tactics favor mobility, lightning raids and overwhelming force brought to bear unexpectedly. While their conventional 'ballistic' weaponry isn't nearly as high tech or high powered as the other races, it is reliable and versatile. When they do favor one style of tank over another it's generally a preference to shields, though most of the minmatar dropsuits are re-purposed civilian gear - the heavy is designed to be a power lifting armor, the mediums are re-purposed starship repair suits etc. They prefer semi-short range multi-prong strikes The Gallente prioritize overwhelming damage per shot and the durability of armor - but augmented to be quickly repaired. Plasma technology is generally incredibly dangerous to even be shooting as an unarmoured civilian, with the plasma rifle being able to melt the flesh off of its shooter, and the 'shotgun' if it lacked the arm brace being capable of ripping the arms off of its shooter then exploding because it wasn't manually flushed with coolant. They prefer to draw you into a close range brawl or ambush and then just punch you in the face over and over and over again. Um Malleus...... what kind of bullshit Amarrian description is that? The Amarr favour deployments where they can bring superior fire power to bear on enemy units, as seen at the Battle of Vak Atioth where they deployed line of ships designed to bring the, at the time and compared to the 4 Empires, laser fire to bear. They have faith in armour, primarily as you said favouring defensive formations, immobile and inflexible. As for your assertion they simply massacre everything in their path.... you'd be very wrong. The Amarr prefer to sap the will of their enemies precisely for the reason that they do not wish to kill their enemies unless they must. Of all the 4 Empire the Amarr place probably one of the greater significances on human life, seeking at all times to better their own, and the lives of those they are to guide to God. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 382	Posted - 2014.04.07 01:37:00 - [10] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Minmatar can run faster, longer, jump higher, and steal your LAV faster. I'm not even making this **** up. +1 There will be bullets. ACR+SMG

MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance 435	Posted - 2014.04.07 02:07:00 - [11] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Um Malleus...... what kind of bullshit Amarrian description is that? The Amarr favour deployments where they can bring superior fire power to bear on enemy units, as seen at the Battle of Vak Atioth where they deployed line of ships designed to bring the, at the time and compared to the 4 Empires, laser fire to bear. They have faith in armour, primarily as you said favouring defensive formations, immobile and inflexible. As for your assertion they simply massacre everything in their path.... you'd be very wrong. The Amarr prefer to sap the will of their enemies precisely for the reason that they do not wish to kill their enemies unless they must. Of all the 4 Empire the Amarr place probably one of the greater significances on human life, seeking at all times to better their own, and the lives of those they are to guide to God. Are you really trying to tell me as a Paladin and a Templar that you would refuse something that She in Her infinite radiance asked of you? I know as a warrior of faith there is nothing you would not do, if you felt it was in the best interests of the Empire. As Lord Falek Grange has said "War is Beautiful".
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4891	Posted - 2014.04.07 02:17:00 - [12] - Quote XDarkwolffangX wrote: I was just wondering, does a certain race have an advantage over others? I mean why do they make racial suits if there wasn't some kind of advantage for one or all of the races? Post your thoughts Minmatar: Usually Have Speed as an Advantage. Their bonuses directly help their weapons which usually are High Rate of Fire weapons or Explosive Weapons. Scout wise, they excel in speed,melee and hacking speed. They have the lowest HP but they compensate with Firepower.They are pretty fond of explosives and they use them a lot to compensate for the lack of HP. Thukker CONTACT grenades and Remote explosives are good Minmatar equipments. Also, if your thing is repairing friendlies, the Matari are masters in repairing stuff... ;) check the logi... AMARR: LAser weaponry AKA : Ranged weapons. Amarr suits have always higher Raw HP values making them the studriest,at the cost of some speed.This is however mitigated by the fact they are the ones with HIGHEST STAMINA too, so even if the run slower,they run for more time. Assault Amarr gives you a heat buildup bonus to Laser weaponry. Laser weaponry excels vs shielded ( minmatar and Caldari) enemies and vs Gallente they have the Range to deal with them. They are the owners of the warp tech known as ''Drop Uplink'' and their logi suits empowers the use of this equipment. Gallente:All suits now have Innate ARMOR REPAIR. They have regular speed and are armor tankers. Considering ARMOR tanking is the one that reaches highest HP values, Gallente suits can have similar (and sometimes MORE) HP values than Amarrian suits without the Speed cost. They have Shotguns and blaster weapons that excel in close and mid ranged combat. High Good E-tech capacity and bonuses to stuff like A.Scanners. Their scout excels in PRrofile DAmpening. Caldari: SHield tank Masters. THE top HP of shield tankers is around 20-25% lower than Armor , but this comes with a perk, that Shields recover a LOT faster. PErfect for hit and run strategies and ranged combat with COVER, Caldaris also excell in E-war warfare. Their scout is the best Passive radar their is and their MEd and Light frames overall can get HIGH profile dampening levels since they dont NEED the Low slots to increase their HP values. They have Rail tech that gives them advantages at Longer ranges, with precision and damage to come with it.Of course, some Cal Suits increase the effectivness of these weapons. There, now choose, any questions? Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9284	Posted - 2014.04.07 02:35:00 - [13] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: True Adamance wrote: Um Malleus...... what kind of bullshit Amarrian description is that? The Amarr favour deployments where they can bring superior fire power to bear on enemy units, as seen at the Battle of Vak Atioth where they deployed line of ships designed to bring the, at the time and compared to the 4 Empires, laser fire to bear. They have faith in armour, primarily as you said favouring defensive formations, immobile and inflexible. As for your assertion they simply massacre everything in their path.... you'd be very wrong. The Amarr prefer to sap the will of their enemies precisely for the reason that they do not wish to kill their enemies unless they must. Of all the 4 Empire the Amarr place probably one of the greater significances on human life, seeking at all times to better their own, and the lives of those they are to guide to God. Are you really trying to tell me as a Paladin and a Templar that you would refuse something that She in Her infinite radiance asked of you? I know as a warrior of faith there is nothing you would not do, if you felt it was in the best interests of the Empire. As Lord Falek Grange has said "War is Beautiful". I would not...but fortunately the Empress herself is benevolent and forgiving. However making the assertion that the Amarr willingly and knowingly in combat go out of their way to commit atrocities is ignorant. As I say the Amarr value life more than any other empire for the express purpose that they wish to save the immortal souls of all Mankind. Is it you who forgets that "The Mercy of our Emperor is Limitless. His Rule is Benign and Righteous. His Love is Perpetual." - The Scriptures, Book I, The Code of Demeanor "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance 435	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:05:00 - [14] - Quote I'm not saying that we'd go out of our way to commit them, I'm saying that we aren't shy about considering them as options, burn a city to cow a solar system etc. The minmatar are the type that would go out of their way to defile for theirs is naught but spite.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9286	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:09:00 - [15] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: I'm not saying that we'd go out of our way to commit them, I'm saying that we aren't shy about considering them as options, burn a city to cow a solar system etc. The minmatar are the type that would go out of their way to defile for theirs is naught but spite. Can you cite any specifics? We haven't historically had a war we couldn't easily have won.....and we haven't really fought any major Naval conflicts with the Minmatar since the Elder Fleet invasion..... "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Vaux Karn The Mercenary Collective 60	Posted - 2014.04.07 03:46:00 - [16] - Quote The cynical truths about the races of New Eden: Amarr- They have Vitoc which is a highly addictive mind control drug which they supply to their slave to keep them docile, they adorn themselves with unnecessary amounts of gold, use flashy and cool lasers, and are also religious fanatics. They can also afford to bribe pretty much anyone, to the point of Concord and D.E.D. completely ignoring mass murders, chemical and biological warfare, cruel and inhumane torture programs, many more atrocities against heretics and blasphemers, and even complete religious hypocrisy. Oh and their leader, the Empress, is completely kittening nuts with a second personality that is a genocidal kitten knocker, which she refers to as the Other...oooh...spooky. She knows how to get things done, but the entire rest of the galaxy thinks that the Amarr are complete and total kittenwads, so they tend to get opposed by everyone and can never get anything done. Caldari- They have the unstoppable corporate machine which builds itself up on the bodies of its people, if you don't get promoted early you don't get promoted...ever. Every citizen must serve in the military before slaving away the rest of their lives to a corporation. They have shields, rail guns, and missiles...these are designed just like their chances at promotion, the further it is away the more they succeed but once you get close they become overworked and die. They are led by a genocidal former terrorist known as Tibus Heth, who is a paranoid maniac who never would have gotten out of his dead end job if it weren't for the Broker, a twisted economic mastermind who can be anywhere and anyone. Tibus is too paranoid to ever do anything on his own and too stupid to ever do anything right without instructions from the broker, so he never gets anything done. After Heth are the shareholders for the large corporations, all they care about is profits, so they only ever do anything that hurts their own working class. Gallente- The shining example of freedom in New Eden...so much so that they are free to bicker and disagree about absolutely everything, to the point that they can never get anything done...yay freedom! They believe in freedom so much that they must go to war against other empires to force freedom upon them...yay hypocritical freedom! They value human life immensely but practically have to put it to a vote as to whether or not they should provide aide to a society being massacred because freedom means voting...yay freedom! They use armor, blasters, and drones, because robots don't have souls and they aren't really alive despite their artificial intelligence, so they can be destroyed and blasters tear apart anything that gets past the drones...yay sacrificial mechanical life forms! They are led by President Roden, a former low level associate of the criminal underworld who got away with the murder of a corrupt cop and then bought the election after running on a platform of fear tactics and blaming the incumbent for everything. Minmatar- Former slaves who use a tribal system of government in which they spend almost as much time killing each other as they do their sworn enemies and former oppressors, the Amarr. But their true advantage is that all of their technology is rooted in duct tape and WD-40...if it breaks, they fix it, and if it never broke then it belongs to someone else...and they steal it! Their slogan is "In rust we trust," because they can't afford enough WD-40 to stop thing from rusting, just enough to make parts move that don't move but are supposed to. They have the lowest level of technology, still relying on obsolete things like gun powder to shoot their guns. They aren't known for their armor or shields, so they have learned to run away very quickly...which becomes really important when the steal your kitten...or get looked at the wrong way! They are led by a council of Elders, which everyone in Minmatar society believes to be just a myth, so they can never get anything done either. There you go...that is every race and why their advantages mean nothing when compared to their total ineptitude. Now, if you would please excuse me, I have to go into hiding before they all try to kill me...
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1797	Posted - 2014.04.07 04:00:00 - [17] - Quote XDarkwolffangX wrote: I was just wondering, does a certain race have an advantage over others? I mean why do they make racial suits if there wasn't some kind of advantage for one or all of the races? Post your thoughts First of all GÇô Lore. That it doesn't mean anything to this console FPS playerbase is sad and a waste of CCP resources. Second of all GÇô Gallente have bigger c*cks. Helps with those tight spots. So, go Gal FTW! Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9291	Posted - 2014.04.07 04:03:00 - [18] - Quote Oppp I see another biased individual bringing his RL mistrust of institutions and religions into his descriptions of fantasy based empires....... Can you cite instances of biological warfare and torture programmes, bribes to the DED and CONCORD.... please by all means do....show me that this community isn't totally oblivious of this games lore! "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 693	Posted - 2014.04.07 04:06:00 - [19] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Minmatar = highest speed, hacking, stamina regen race Amarr = highest base HP (mainly armor) and base stamina race Caldari = best dropsuits for shields Gallente = dropuits have built-in armor repair Fixed that for you, no we do not have extra CPU/PG. One suit has extra CPU/PG and I expect that will go away when they rebalance the assaults. Hopefully we get our missing freaking slot back and our slots rebalanced too. We should be a 2H 5 L assault. Fixing swarms
Sourdough Muffins Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2014.04.07 04:07:00 - [20] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Minmatar can run faster, longer, jump higher, and steal your LAV faster. I'm not even making this **** up. Dats Racist!!! lmao...

LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1817	Posted - 2014.04.07 04:12:00 - [21] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Minmatar can run faster, longer, jump higher, and steal your LAV faster. I'm not even making this **** up. The Cops theme song started playing in my head..
XDarkwolffangX Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.04.07 16:00:00 - [22] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Minmatar can run faster, longer, jump higher, and steal your LAV faster. I'm not even making this **** up. But if I chose Amarr could I still get Minmatar suits that would have the same effect? WOLF LEGEND


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