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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4858
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:20:00 -
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So, we are still pretty early into 1.8 and OF COURSE , the new equipment dictates the new FOTM, same as when the A.Scanner came out, only Sentinels wouldn't run them.... But still ,many of the best Scouts are still old school scouts. Im not an old school vet,but i have been a chromo scout so i've been around for a while too, and except for those full proto scouts with proto shotguns 600+EHP tanked ''newbie scouts'' (probably FOTM chasers that were playing med frames in 1.7), killing other scouts come relatively easy.
Now, to the thread. This thread is with the purpose of OLD and NEW scouts to post their fittings so others can RANK it and give their opinions on what to change or give ideas on what to improve.
I'll start with my OWN fit and i'll of course, will be accepting critiques and ideas on how to improve it. I must note i HAve the following skills that are related to my trade: Profile Dampening 5 Radar Range 5 Scan Precision 5 Biotics & Kinetics 5 Shotguns 4 SMG's (Everything @ ) 5 Grenadier 5 Armor and shields at 5 PG and CPU at 5 GAL SCOUTS 5
Now my most used fitting goes something like:
Arch-Demon H: Complex Shield Extender Complex Precision Enhancer
L: x2 Complex Kinetic Catalizer Complex Range Amplifier Complex Profile DAmpener
G: Thukker Contact Grenades
Light & Sidearm: Ishuk Assault SMG Toxin SMG
E: Adv Cloak Compact Nanos
This version of my Gk.0 i Use powerful E-war modules next to some Speed augmentation and cloak to increase my chances of detecting enemies at further ranges while avoiding detection. Mostly used as a fast flanker, this fit also has one variation with 1 Cx Kinetic Cat replaced by a Reactive plate for more ''defensive'' (AKA camping) loadout. Also , while cloaked (and even without cloak) detection with scanners is almost impossible.The Contact grenade is a ''Wild Joker Card''. Letting me 1HKO other dangerous scouts (or at least leave them near death) and take down the shields of shield tanked enemies or Heavy Frames,to then proceed to annihilate their armor with my ISHIK SMG.
Any Scout fits here will be discussed by myself and other interested scouts of different levels of experience. Feel free to also comment on my Fit.
TY for your time.
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y RISE of LEGION
47
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:22:00 -
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I say, strap some C4 on the front of your scouts, run them out really far and paint the background red D:<
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Heavy
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Patrick57
6711
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:25:00 -
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Cloak + Shotgun is all you need.
My personal best ADS match
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4858
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:27:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:I say, strap some C4 on the front of your scouts, run them out really far and paint the background red D:<
Aw, c'mon, no need for the salty comments my friend. This a research thread :3 Plus i dont use R/E.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4858
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:27:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Cloak + Shotgun is all you need.
The SMG is more effective while taking out Scouts IMO, which are my main targets.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4645
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:28:00 -
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Scout A/1 Series CRW-4 scrambler rifle Ion Pistol Flux Grenade Basic Cloak Field Stable Drop Uplink Basic Light Damage Mod Basic Shield Energizer (takes off 1 hp, lol) Enhanced Armor Rep Basic Kinetic Catylizer Basic Codebreaker
My AK.0 is similar, but with upgraded stuff, a boundless CBR, advanced SMG, and an enhanced profile dampener.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6421
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:29:00 -
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This should help.
The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers"
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1992
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:41:00 -
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@OP, you only need an Enhanced Profile Dampener. The Complex does nothing for you other than take up some extra CPU and add to the cost. A single Complex Precision Enhancer is only going to pick up non-cloaked, non-dampened scouts. It also won't pic up doubled Dampened Medium Frames, if anyone still runs those. I don't find it useful at all on a Gal-Scout even with 2.
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Tectonic Fusion
1420
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:52:00 -
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BPO gallente scout 1 Complex Shield Extender 1 Enhanced Armor Plate 1 Basic Armor Plate 1 Basic CPU Upgrade Boundless Combat Rifle M209 Assault Submachine Gun C-7 Flux Grenades Compact Nanohive
^ Terrible but fun scout fit ^ Only costs 67k
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1140
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:52:00 -
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Might as well.
Advanced Gal
Adv Ion pistol Adv Scram Pistol Adv Locus grenade
2 Adv precision enhancers
3 Adv range amplifiers
Adv Cloak Adv Droplink
Advanced Gal
Adv Laser Rifle Adv Smg
2 Adv Shield Extenders
2 Adv Ferroscales 1 Adv Profile Dampener
Adv Nanite Injector Adv Repair tool.
I may be off by a module or two, but that's more or less it.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4859
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:53:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:@OP, you only need an Enhanced Profile Dampener. The Complex does nothing for you other than take up some extra CPU and add to the cost. A single Complex Precision Enhancer is only going to pick up non-cloaked, non-dampened scouts. It also won't pic up doubled Dampened Medium Frames, if anyone still runs those. I don't find it useful at all on a Gal-Scout even with 2.
You do have a point. But thats exactly what im looking for. Heavies,Commandos, Assaults ( i truly dont know ANYONE who double damps their med frame, except me pre 1.8)logis...The Precision enhancer is so i can detect level 5 passive Dampened med frames mostly with maybe a dampener on.... Even if this is an ANTI scout fit, i NEED To know where the heavier enemies are to deal at my own pace with my cloaked bros.
PLUS, i really have CPU and PG to spare. E-war modules are pretty cheap to fit.
But then what are you implying; i should run then 2 Cx Precision enh? because i would.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4859
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:55:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Scout A/1 Series CRW-4 scrambler rifle Ion Pistol Flux Grenade Basic Cloak Field Stable Drop Uplink Basic Light Damage Mod Basic Shield Energizer (takes off 1 hp, lol) Enhanced Armor Rep Basic Kinetic Catylizer Basic Codebreaker
My AK.0 is similar, but with upgraded stuff, a boundless CBR, advanced SMG, and an enhanced profile dampener.
May i ask why do you pack SO MUCH weaponry thats effective vs shields?...or...
BTW i truly dont have anything to say about the amarr scout.... i dont really want to know anything about that piece of...
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4859
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Posted - 2014.04.05 23:56:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Might as well.
Advanced Gal
Adv Ion pistol Adv Scram Pistol Adv Locus grenade
2 Adv precision enhancers
3 Adv range amplifiers
Adv Cloak Adv Droplink
Advanced Gal
Adv Laser Rifle Adv Smg
2 Adv Shield Extenders
2 Adv Ferroscales 1 Adv Profile Dampener
Adv Nanite Injector Adv Repair tool.
I may be off by a module or two, but that's more or less it.
I tried the Laser rifle as a ''side weapon'' but i didnt do too god with it. I simply LOVE the 1st fit BTW(The one with double pistols). I would change a Range amplifier for a kin cat thou, but thats just me that i cant live without some speed... :3
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
2844
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:01:00 -
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Yeah the precision mod isn't going to help you much, and a second one would gimp your fit.
If you're running Gallente, focus on hiding from your opponents and being able to run faster than them (dual sprint mods is good). Even though you might not be able to detect them at least they shouldn't be able to find you.
Frost Kitty is an amazing scout, able to get 40-50 kills in a match easily even without a shotgun. He focuses on surviability, and flanking speed from what he's told me.
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1993
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:04:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:@OP, you only need an Enhanced Profile Dampener. The Complex does nothing for you other than take up some extra CPU and add to the cost. A single Complex Precision Enhancer is only going to pick up non-cloaked, non-dampened scouts. It also won't pic up doubled Dampened Medium Frames, if anyone still runs those. I don't find it useful at all on a Gal-Scout even with 2. You do have a point. But thats exactly what im looking for. Heavies,Commandos, Assaults ( i truly dont know ANYONE who double damps their med frame, except me pre 1.8)logis...The Precision enhancer is so i can detect level 5 passive Dampened med frames mostly with maybe a dampener on.... Even if this is an ANTI scout fit, i NEED To know where the heavier enemies are to deal at my own pace with my cloaked bros.PLUS, i really have CPU and PG to spare. E-war modules are pretty cheap to fit. But then what are you implying; i should run then 2 Cx Precision enh? because i would.
Your innate 40dB scan precision, 36 if you've got the skill to level 5, will scan the medium and heavy frames regardless. The second one is useless until/unless Precision Enhancers get buffed to -25% when looking for scouts. You're better off with e shield or damage mod in the second High Slot.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4859
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:07:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Yeah the precision mod isn't going to help you much, and a second one would gimp your fit.
If you're running Gallente, focus on hiding from your opponents and being able to run faster than them (dual sprint mods is good). Even though you might not be able to detect them at least they shouldn't be able to find you.
Frost Kitty is an amazing scout, able to get 40-50 kills in a match easily even without a shotgun. He focuses on surviability, and flanking speed from what he's told me.
HAHAAH talking about Frosty Kitty, my GF called me at work told me Frosty Kitty made her Rage quit a game XD (she uses my account sometimes while im at work, but never uses my Proto stuff...) (THAT I KNOW OF)
Anyhow. Funny i thought Frosty kitty used to play Med frames with Combat Rifles pre 1.8. I dont know i've only played him once in my life while i was with Swenla and cat lady vs 4 of his boys...great match.
How would a second Precision Enhancer would GIMP my suit? I dont depend on EHP for survival.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4859
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:08:00 -
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Appia Vibbia wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:@OP, you only need an Enhanced Profile Dampener. The Complex does nothing for you other than take up some extra CPU and add to the cost. A single Complex Precision Enhancer is only going to pick up non-cloaked, non-dampened scouts. It also won't pic up doubled Dampened Medium Frames, if anyone still runs those. I don't find it useful at all on a Gal-Scout even with 2. You do have a point. But thats exactly what im looking for. Heavies,Commandos, Assaults ( i truly dont know ANYONE who double damps their med frame, except me pre 1.8)logis...The Precision enhancer is so i can detect level 5 passive Dampened med frames mostly with maybe a dampener on.... Even if this is an ANTI scout fit, i NEED To know where the heavier enemies are to deal at my own pace with my cloaked bros.PLUS, i really have CPU and PG to spare. E-war modules are pretty cheap to fit. But then what are you implying; i should run then 2 Cx Precision enh? because i would. Your innate 40dB scan precision, 36 if you've got the skill to level 5, will scan the medium and heavy frames regardless. The second one is useless until/unless Precision Enhancers get buffed to -25% when looking for scouts. You're better off with e shield or damage mod in the second High Slot.
Thats a more detailed explanation. +1 Im guessing i was wrong. ..
But i dont believe in scout eHP tanking and i;ve never used damage mods... : |
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4442
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:15:00 -
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Note: All scout skills at level V (dampening, enhancement, range, core, hacking, biotics)
ADV Amarr A/1 Scout Fitting
1x Enhanced Damage Modifer 1x Complex Precision Enhancer
GEK-38 Plasma Rifle T-12 Ion Pistol
1x Cloak Field 1x KIN-12 Nanite Injector
1x Complex Reactive Plate 1x Complex Profile Dampener 1x Enhanced Kinetic Catalyzer (Amarr A/1 Scout Fitting 2 swaps this for 1x Complex Range Extender)
PRO Amarr ak.0 Scout Fitting
1x Enhanced Damage Modifier 1x Complex Precision Enhancer
Duvolle Plasma Rifle T-12 Ion Pistol
1x ARN-17 Cloak Field 1x K-2 Nanohive
2x Complex Reactive Plates 1x Complex Profile Dampener 1x Complex Range Extender
ALTERNATE LOW SLOTS FOR PRO FITTING
2x Complex Reactive Plates 1x Complex Profile Dampener 1x Enhanced Kinetic Catalyzer
I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
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Vesperz
D3ATH CARD
76
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:16:00 -
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Scout M-1 Series
1xComplex Precision Enhancer 2xComplex Shield Extender 1xM512 A-SMG 1xIshukone NK 1xFlux Grenades 1xRE 1xCloak 1xComplex Precision 1xRange Amplifer
Core Skills, Biotics, Dampening, Range, Precision Maxed, annnd Hacking. All Maxed.
Live by honor, kill by stealth.
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Tectonic Fusion
1420
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:19:00 -
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Vesperz wrote:Scout M-1 Series 1xComplex Precision Enhancer 2xComplex Shield Extender 1xM512 A-SMG 1xIshukone NK 1xFlux Grenades 1xRE 1xCloak 1xComplex Precision 1xRange Amplifier Core Skills, Biotics, Dampening, Range, Precision, annnd Hacking. All Maxed. Good fit :D No kin cats?
Solo Player
Squad status: Locked
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Vesperz
D3ATH CARD
77
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:26:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Vesperz wrote:Scout M-1 Series 1xComplex Precision Enhancer 2xComplex Shield Extender 1xM512 A-SMG 1xIshukone NK 1xFlux Grenades 1xRE 1xCloak 1xComplex Precision 1xRange Amplifier Core Skills, Biotics, Dampening, Range, Precision, annnd Hacking. All Maxed. Good fit :D No kin cats?
Funny cause I usually run KinCats all the time! Anything below 9 or even at 9 I feel a bit slow.
Another fit was something like...
Scout M-1 series
1xComplex Precision 1xComplex Shield 1xEnhanced Shield 2xGN-13 Flaylock pistols 1xFlux Grenades 1xRE 1xBasic Cloak 1xEnhanced Dampner 1xEnhanced KinCat
I mostly use this one in like... the Gallente Research Lab, lots of LULZ to be had.
Live by honor, kill by stealth.
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1995
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:27:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:@OP, you only need an Enhanced Profile Dampener. The Complex does nothing for you other than take up some extra CPU and add to the cost. A single Complex Precision Enhancer is only going to pick up non-cloaked, non-dampened scouts. It also won't pic up doubled Dampened Medium Frames, if anyone still runs those. I don't find it useful at all on a Gal-Scout even with 2. You do have a point. But thats exactly what im looking for. Heavies,Commandos, Assaults ( i truly dont know ANYONE who double damps their med frame, except me pre 1.8)logis...The Precision enhancer is so i can detect level 5 passive Dampened med frames mostly with maybe a dampener on.... Even if this is an ANTI scout fit, i NEED To know where the heavier enemies are to deal at my own pace with my cloaked bros.PLUS, i really have CPU and PG to spare. E-war modules are pretty cheap to fit. But then what are you implying; i should run then 2 Cx Precision enh? because i would. Your innate 40dB scan precision, 36 if you've got the skill to level 5, will scan the medium and heavy frames regardless. The second one is useless until/unless Precision Enhancers get buffed to -25% when looking for scouts. You're better off with e shield or damage mod in the second High Slot. Thats a more detailed explanation. +1 Im guessing i was wrong. ..
But i dont believe in scout eHP tanking and i;ve never used damage mods... : |
Then make push for more module diversity! Because your options are pretty limited.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1144
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:28:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:
I tried the Laser rifle as a ''side weapon'' but i didnt do too god with it. I simply LOVE the 1st fit BTW(The one with double pistols). I would change a Range amplifier for a kin cat thou, but thats just me that i cant live without some speed... :3
I tried it on and off for a while on a minnie assualt up until 1.8, I liked it but it just wasn't enough to use it regularly, when 1.8 I reinvested the minnie points into core skills to go along with my Gal Scout. Ended up strapping the laser rifle to my "medic" fit and it fits like a glove, nice suppression from range to give me time to revive a team mate without them getting shot.
In response to the Kincat: I dont actually have any points in Biotics at all, it's on my to-do list, but it never really called to me. If one affected base movement then it'd be another story entirely. Coincidently, that's why I use Ferro's. Unlike sprint speed, when Base speed is gone, it ain't coming back.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1998
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:30:00 -
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Scout Vk.0 Scout mk.0 HS: 3x Complex Shield Extender LW: Ishukone Nova Knives SA: TY-5 Breach Scrambler Pistol GS: Flux Grenade EQ: Nanohive, ARN-18 Cloak Field LS: 2x Complex Profile Dampener, Basic Reactive Plate
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
4443
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:35:00 -
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Guess no one likes Amarr Scout D:
I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
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AfroSunshineY Consequence
R 0 N 1 N
294
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:39:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:BPO gallente scout 1 Complex Shield Extender 1 Enhanced Armor Plate 1 Basic Armor Plate 1 Basic CPU Upgrade Boundless Combat Rifle M209 Assault Submachine Gun C-7 Flux Grenades Compact Nanohive
^ Terrible but fun scout fit ^ Only costs 67k
This feels a little light assaultish? How do you use it?
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Onesimus Tarsus
1833
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:41:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Guess no one likes Amarr Scout D:
Well, it is garbage...
If you don't see me, it's because I'm not where you're looking.
I'd rather be unscannable than invisible.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2155
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:47:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Mortishai Belmont wrote:I say, strap some C4 on the front of your scouts, run them out really far and paint the background red D:< Aw, c'mon, no need for the salty comments my friend. This a research thread :3 Plus i dont use R/E. You should try it. It's fun.
I try to RP so shotgun and Ion is my fit most of the time.
Right now, I got bit bored with the game so I'm just getting different fits. I'm going for Commando and Sentinel 1 at the moment lol but my usual fit is:
Scout G-1
Shotgun Ion Pistol
ENH kincats CPX kincat ENH Dampner
ENH Precision
And I have another one with 1 CPX dampner instead of one of the kincats if I run into good Caldari scouts. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2155
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:48:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Guess no one likes Amarr Scout D: Well, it is garbage... I liked it... RUN FOREVER lol
And my other friend really enjoys it |
Lily Q
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:48:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Guess no one likes Amarr Scout D: ADV Amarr Scout Complex Ferro Enhanced Rep Enhanced Dampener Enhanced Light Damage Mod Enhanced Sidearm Damage Mod Advanced Scrambler Rifle (the one with C and W in the name) KLO Scrambler Pistol Cloak Needle
I have lots of fun with this and great at flanking and holding a letter. |
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1146
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:50:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Guess no one likes Amarr Scout D: Well, it is garbage... I liked it... RUN FOREVER lol And my other friend really enjoys it You can reach like 3000 stamina on the Bench Presser, with 400 recovered a second.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4648
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:51:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Scout A/1 Series CRW-4 scrambler rifle Ion Pistol Flux Grenade Basic Cloak Field Stable Drop Uplink Basic Light Damage Mod Basic Shield Energizer (takes off 1 hp, lol) Enhanced Armor Rep Basic Kinetic Catylizer Basic Codebreaker
My AK.0 is similar, but with upgraded stuff, a boundless CBR, advanced SMG, and an enhanced profile dampener. May i ask why do you pack SO MUCH weaponry thats effective vs shields?...or... BTW i truly dont have anything to say about the amarr scout.... i dont really want to know anything about that piece of... No real reason, just the weapons I like tend to be effective against shields Scrambler- the charge Ion- good in CQC, with higher alpha than SMGs (what do you expect me to use, the derplock?) Flux- There was so much equipment spam at one point that I had "equipment destroyed" on my screen for probably a good 20 seconds after throwing my 2 fluxes.
I'm from the weird side of the internet
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
2846
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:56:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote: Anyhow. Funny i thought Frosty kitty used to play Med frames with Combat Rifles pre 1.8. I dont know i've only played him once in my life while i was with Swenla and cat lady vs 4 of his boys...great match.
I dont depend on EHP for survival. [/b]
First thing, Frost ran Proto Gallente Scout and Gallente Assault. He'd mainly run a stacked assault with me right be hind him with a core focused and yes he ran combat rifles with that.
But when I wasn't with him he'd run a creodron on a scout and die maybe 0-3 times in that fitting in 1.7
He tossed the assault for scout skills in 1.8 and still rocks it, with only about 20 million sp lifetime. (to put that in reference I have almost 40 million)
Running e-war mods might make you sound like a true scout, but in reality all it sounds like is that you have to rely on your radar and passive scans in order to take on other scouts seeing as how you don't need any of those mods if you have your passives and scout skill high enough to see any other frame.
He doesn't tank his suit by any means, in fact I think he actually ran damage mods in 1.7, but like I said he focuses mainly on flanking...and "survivability", which doesn't mean EHP, it means using tactics to not die as much.
I think his main weakness is his focus on kdr though...
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4859
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Posted - 2014.04.06 00:57:00 -
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People use scouts pretty different i see....
SO , WHAT options do i have if i dont want to use Shield extenders NOR damage mods on my Gk.0?
I mean ... Im f***d?
Wouldnt 2 Cx Precision enhancers do me any good?
Should i just use the Cal Scout then? D:
Ty everyone for the posts, its really fun to see all the different scouts people use....
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4859
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Posted - 2014.04.06 01:00:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote: Anyhow. Funny i thought Frosty kitty used to play Med frames with Combat Rifles pre 1.8. I dont know i've only played him once in my life while i was with Swenla and cat lady vs 4 of his boys...great match.
I dont depend on EHP for survival. [/b]
First thing, Frost ran Proto Gallente Scout and Gallente Assault. He'd mainly run a stacked assault with me right be hind him with a core focused and yes he ran combat rifles with that. But when I wasn't with him he'd run a creodron on a scout and die maybe 0-3 times in that fitting in 1.7 He tossed the assault for scout skills in 1.8 and still rocks it, with only about 20 million sp lifetime. (to put that in reference I have almost 40 million) Running e-war mods might make you sound like a true scout, but in reality all it sounds like is that you have to rely on your radar and passive scans in order to take on other scouts seeing as how you don't need any of those mods if you have your passives and scout skill high enough to see any other frame. He doesn't tank his suit by any means, in fact I think he actually ran damage mods in 1.7, but like I said he focuses mainly on flanking...and "survivability", which doesn't mean EHP, it means using tactics to not die as much. I think his main weakness is his focus on kdr though...
Well good for him.I actually played with him only once in my life , think he doesn't play at the same hours i do (after 1am eastern till down time)....Hes a good player, but without a fit to discuss we are wandering off topic.
:3
So , please read my previous post. IF Precision enhancers are NOT working for me, what should i use? : |
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AfroSunshineY Consequence
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Gallente Scout gk.0 (been running gallente scout since chromosome)
Highs -2x Complex Precision Enhancer
Lows -2x Complex Range Extender -1x Complex Kinetc Catalyzer -1x Complex Cardiac Regulator
Light: Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Sidearm: Scrambler Pistol (with the changes to the ScP, this position is in flux - been trying lots of different sidearms to see what best complements the Shotty----and again, I've been using the shotty since well before uprising)
Grenade: Locus Grenade (basic)
Equipment: -Proto Cloak -R-9 Drop Uplink
Cost: ~120-30k
On the rare occasion I use proto, I go full on for scanning --- Again, I've been a scanner since before 1.8. I pick up all players within about 70 m of me. Because the scan radius is so much wider than most of my competiton and my precision at least decent, I pick up most suits. The only suits I don't pick up are dedicated dampened scouts ---- these guys get through my net, but that's when I simply have to stay aware and look for moving cloaked. There's no way to pick these guys up passively as a gk.0 so it just has to be awareness. It's a hard decision not to have a dampener on - I decided against it because when my cloak is active it is as if I have a complex dampener on -- the only people who pick me up are typically caldari full proto, full scanning tanked caldari scouts. But in every situation I've encountered one of these suits, I have picked them up before they've picked me up. The cloak rewards patience - so if I pick up prey on my radar, I hide, find the right time to cloak, then wait for the perfect opportunity to make my approach. Mainly used for defending a point against disorganized enemies (you'll get stomped by an organized group) or approaching snipers/av etc.... |
Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
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Scout since Chromosome Valor g-1 bpo Breach shotgun (Basic level) Complex profile dampener x2 Complex kincat Advanced precision enhancer Basic cloak
(Cheap fit made for hunting other scouts with a bit more bite against other suits. All modules listed and scout level are at 5. )
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Scout instructor; Learning Coalition
Sidearms are terribly underestimated.
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.06 01:04:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:People use scouts pretty different i see....
SO , WHAT options do i have if i dont want to use Shield extenders NOR damage mods on my Gk.0?
I mean ... Im f***d?
Wouldnt 2 Cx Precision enhancers do me any good?
Should i just use the Cal Scout then? D:
Ty everyone for the posts, its really fun to see all the different scouts people use....
The first high slot alternative that comes to mind are Myofibril Stimulants.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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So are my fits any good, or are they invalid simply because they're on an Amarr scout?
I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
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Ivy Zalinto
Bobbit's Hangmen
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Spademan wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:People use scouts pretty different i see....
SO , WHAT options do i have if i dont want to use Shield extenders NOR damage mods on my Gk.0?
I mean ... Im f***d?
Wouldnt 2 Cx Precision enhancers do me any good?
Should i just use the Cal Scout then? D:
Ty everyone for the posts, its really fun to see all the different scouts people use.... The first high slot alternative that comes to mind are Myofibril Stimulants. Problem with myofibril is that you need stamina to get out of dodge a lot of the time. And melee uses stamina. Thats the problems i have with it anyway...
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Scout instructor; Learning Coalition
Sidearms are terribly underestimated.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:So are my fits any good, or are they invalid simply because they're on an Amarr scout?
Its not invalid. Its just the Amarr scout is the best fitted for what we like to call LIGHT ASSAULT. It doesnt have speed, nor a bonus to speed. It doesnt have any E-war advatages over other Scouts, nor a bonus to enhance them. It doesnt have a hacking , not melee ,nor CQ bonus. It has a rather Large hitbox IMO for a scout. So: No EWAR, no SPEED,no CQ nor melee....
What it does have, is a LOT of stamina and more HP,thing that works better for FLANKING ASSAULT. I havnt given an opinion on your fit since: 1- I dont really know anything about fitting an amarr scout,as IMO, its not a a scout. 2-I dont know what the objective is with this scout. I know the Minnie, is melee fighter (with 120 melee damage) , Nove knifer and hacking speed. GAl is dampening and range. Cal is pure Radar. But i dont know what to enhance in a amarr scout...
I really dont know anything about Amarr scouts, but if it was me, i would just treat it as a skinny amarr assault with cloak...
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.04.06 01:19:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:So are my fits any good, or are they invalid simply because they're on an Amarr scout? Its not invalid. Its just the Amarr scout is the best fitted for what we like to call LIGHT ASSAULT. It doesnt have speed, nor a bonus to speed. It doesnt have any E-war advatages over other Scouts, nor a bonus to enhance them. It doesnt have a hacking , not melee ,nor CQ bonus. It has a rather Large hitbox IMO for a scout. So: No EWAR, no SPEED,no CQ nor melee....What it does have, is a LOT of stamina and more HP,thing that works better for FLANKING ASSAULT. I havnt given an opinion on your fit since: 1- I dont really know anything about fitting an amarr scout,as IMO, its not a a scout. 2-I dont know what the objective is with this scout. I know the Minnie, is melee fighter (with 120 melee damage) , Nove knifer and hacking speed. GAl is dampening and range. Cal is pure Radar. But i dont know what to enhance in a amarr scout...
I really dont know anything about Amarr scouts, but if it was me, i would just treat it as a skinny amarr assault with cloak...
Yet when I point this out and make a thread stating the Amarr Scout is UP and generally sucks ass, everyone tells me to shut up and deal with it and it isn't UP.
I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.06 01:43:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:So are my fits any good, or are they invalid simply because they're on an Amarr scout? Its not invalid. Its just the Amarr scout is the best fitted for what we like to call LIGHT ASSAULT. It doesnt have speed, nor a bonus to speed. It doesnt have any E-war advatages over other Scouts, nor a bonus to enhance them. It doesnt have a hacking , not melee ,nor CQ bonus. It has a rather Large hitbox IMO for a scout. So: No EWAR, no SPEED,no CQ nor melee....What it does have, is a LOT of stamina and more HP,thing that works better for FLANKING ASSAULT. I havnt given an opinion on your fit since: 1- I dont really know anything about fitting an amarr scout,as IMO, its not a a scout. 2-I dont know what the objective is with this scout. I know the Minnie, is melee fighter (with 120 melee damage) , Nove knifer and hacking speed. GAl is dampening and range. Cal is pure Radar. But i dont know what to enhance in a amarr scout...
I really dont know anything about Amarr scouts, but if it was me, i would just treat it as a skinny amarr assault with cloak... Yet when I point this out and make a thread stating the Amarr Scout is UP and generally sucks ass, everyone tells me to shut up and deal with it and it isn't UP.
And yet, i predicted this would happen BEFORE 1.8...
:\
Its not like the Amarr scout is BAD, but it is UP compared to other scouts since in needs to heavily invest in modules equipped to achieve a regular performance in Scout oriented features(E-war,Melee + CQ,hacking or Speed) AND it lacks the other traits that med frames have for an Assault oriented suit....
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Stupid Blueberry
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.04.06 02:06:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:So are my fits any good, or are they invalid simply because they're on an Amarr scout? Its not invalid. Its just the Amarr scout is the best fitted for what we like to call LIGHT ASSAULT. It doesnt have speed, nor a bonus to speed. It doesnt have any E-war advatages over other Scouts, nor a bonus to enhance them. It doesnt have a hacking , not melee ,nor CQ bonus. It has a rather Large hitbox IMO for a scout. So: No EWAR, no SPEED,no CQ nor melee....What it does have, is a LOT of stamina and more HP,thing that works better for FLANKING ASSAULT. I havnt given an opinion on your fit since: 1- I dont really know anything about fitting an amarr scout,as IMO, its not a a scout. 2-I dont know what the objective is with this scout. I know the Minnie, is melee fighter (with 120 melee damage) , Nove knifer and hacking speed. GAl is dampening and range. Cal is pure Radar. But i dont know what to enhance in a amarr scout...
I really dont know anything about Amarr scouts, but if it was me, i would just treat it as a skinny amarr assault with cloak... Yet when I point this out and make a thread stating the Amarr Scout is UP and generally sucks ass, everyone tells me to shut up and deal with it and it isn't UP. And yet, i predicted this would happen BEFORE 1.8...:\ Its not like the Amarr scout is BAD, but it is UP compared to other scouts since in needs to heavily invest in modules equipped to achieve a regular performance in Scout oriented features(E-war,Melee + CQ,hacking or Speed) AND it lacks the other traits that med frames have for an Assault oriented suit....
Amarr Scouts look like birds. They should jump higher to make use of those stamina bonuses. |
KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.06 02:19:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:So are my fits any good, or are they invalid simply because they're on an Amarr scout? Its not invalid. Its just the Amarr scout is the best fitted for what we like to call LIGHT ASSAULT. It doesnt have speed, nor a bonus to speed. It doesnt have any E-war advatages over other Scouts, nor a bonus to enhance them. It doesnt have a hacking , not melee ,nor CQ bonus. It has a rather Large hitbox IMO for a scout. So: No EWAR, no SPEED,no CQ nor melee....What it does have, is a LOT of stamina and more HP,thing that works better for FLANKING ASSAULT. I havnt given an opinion on your fit since: 1- I dont really know anything about fitting an amarr scout,as IMO, its not a a scout. 2-I dont know what the objective is with this scout. I know the Minnie, is melee fighter (with 120 melee damage) , Nove knifer and hacking speed. GAl is dampening and range. Cal is pure Radar. But i dont know what to enhance in a amarr scout...
I really dont know anything about Amarr scouts, but if it was me, i would just treat it as a skinny amarr assault with cloak... Yet when I point this out and make a thread stating the Amarr Scout is UP and generally sucks ass, everyone tells me to shut up and deal with it and it isn't UP. And yet, i predicted this would happen BEFORE 1.8...:\ Its not like the Amarr scout is BAD, but it is UP compared to other scouts since in needs to heavily invest in modules equipped to achieve a regular performance in Scout oriented features(E-war,Melee + CQ,hacking or Speed) AND it lacks the other traits that med frames have for an Assault oriented suit.... Amarr Scouts look like birds. They should jump higher to make use of those stamina bonuses.
7% per level Jump height WAS proposed pre 1.8 by some people AND myself to go NEXT to the 5% current stamina bonus... But got no luck with CCP...
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... E-R-A
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Posted - 2014.04.06 02:37:00 -
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First to OP : with gk.0 ,if you have space, this goes that - with 2compx enchancers you will pick scouts (dampened mediums are meh,and lol no)that uses only 1damp or only cloak. So i suggest you to use only 1 enchancer, or if you want to try be like hunter, eqiup 2.
From me.
Ck.0 :
highs: 2compx extender and enchancers (3 for true ewar) lows: enchanced damp and compx range amp Proto CR/ScR+adv Magsec/ScP eq: adv cloak+ (player choice) i use links, rep, RE. |
KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.06 02:42:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:First to OP : with gk.0 ,if you have space, this goes that - with 2compx enchancers you will pick scouts (dampened mediums are meh,and lol no)that uses only 1damp or only cloak. So i suggest you to use only 1 enchancer, or if you want to try be like hunter, eqiup 2.
From me.
Ck.0 :
highs: 2compx extender and enchancers (3 for true ewar) lows: enchanced damp and compx range amp Proto CR/ScR+adv Magsec/ScP eq: adv cloak+ (player choice) i use links, rep, RE.
If i played CAl, i would use it EXACTLY like you. But with double SMG's that is....
+1
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