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Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1013	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:31:00 - [1] - Quote Which is better and why? Trying to choose between the two, and would appreciate some guidance from those in the know. Thanks in advance...Leadfoot
Ty-shiek Fakiir Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:36:00 - [2] - Quote Depends on the preference of playstyle. Caldari for scans (Seeker) Gallente for Stealth (Hider) I personally prefer Caldari
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 845	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:37:00 - [3] - Quote Gallente. Your main enemy will be the Cal scout which may see you, no one else will. Gallente has a more flexible slot lay out (more lows) and the BPO's are damn awesome now (1 high, 3 lows). Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
Kara Anschel Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 103	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:38:00 - [4] - Quote Cal scout if you want to know the battlefield. You play out weaknesses and prepare defenses/offenses. Gal scout if you want to own the battlefield. You run around not giving a ****, ganking every bastard in your way the second you see them.
LeGoose SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 220	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:38:00 - [5] - Quote Really just depends what you want to do. The gal is the most stealthy and has the most options for fittings due to high amounts of pg available and for those who want to brick tank it has the low slots to do so. The Caldari scout (my personal preference) is great for being able to see everything and plan an attack route accirdingly. With 1 comp precision enhancer and maxed skills you can see most undampened/uncloaked scouts and a few cloaked ones as well. SAM-MIK Director My Caldari scout can see your silly cloaked logi =ƒÖà
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5747	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:38:00 - [6] - Quote Whatever you do don't pick Amarr or Matar.... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 1002	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:38:00 - [7] - Quote Both are good. Gallente gets more EHP because of Armor but Caldari will likely be faster than. I prefer Caldari because it isn't Gallente. From a practical aspect, the range on the radar is wonderful. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
Cogadh Draco WarRavens League of Infamy 6	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:39:00 - [8] - Quote Ty-shiek Fakiir wrote: Depends on the preference of playstyle. Caldari for scans (Seeker) Gallente for Stealth (Hider) I personally prefer Caldari Basically what this guy said. Gallante is for hiding/camping a CP(you can stack a few profile dampeners to avoid high level detection), Caldari is for hunter seekers.
abarkrishna WarRavens 359	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:39:00 - [9] - Quote Gallente scouts with precision enhancers on your highs with a profile dampener and kin cats. No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2. When will they learn!
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4802	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:44:00 - [10] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Which is better and why? Trying to choose between the two, and would appreciate some guidance from those in the know. Thanks in advance...Leadfoot Both are Great. ACtually,except the Amarr scout, all scouts are really powerful. Caldari if you prefer FAST HP regen (the 50 per sec shield recharge) and better radar functions. With a Profile dampener and a range amplifier in your low slots you can be both stealthy AND have good range and precision so good passive radar. The Gallente now has 3 hp per sec repair , which is nice,but suffers from speed loss while trying to increase its HP levels unless you use Ferroscales. I chose the Gal because with it i can equip a profile dampener and become trully radar invisible. Equip a range amplifier, and still have 2 slots for speed tanking.....BUT,i had to sacrifice High slots to get Scan precision enhancers so my HP is rather low.... It really depends. Gal: Great vs other scouts that gave good passive scan. Gal can truly achieve low scan profile while retaining good radar range. Good radar range and overall good PG. Cal:Best Radar performance. The 2 Low slots might be a problem considering the amount of GOOD low Modules vs the amount of GOOD Highs.For example, A caldari cant achieve the same speeds as a Gal or Minmatar because of the only 2 low slots. I can Quip 3 Kinetic cats and a Range amplifier and be FASTER and have MORE radar range than a caldari scout. But the caldari scout could equip 2 Precision enhancers and the Gallente has no way of surpassing this amount of scan precision. Its trully give & take. The Minmatar is best for Nova Knifing, Speed tanking and HAcking speed. The Nova knife bonus on this suits equals 5+ Complex damage mods for knife and the HAcking speed bonus equals a Full Complex Codebreaker,which are pretty hard to equip due to high fitting requirements. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread

Garth Mandra The Southern Legion League of Infamy 371	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:54:00 - [11] - Quote Caldari also has the advantage of faster HP regen.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4803	Posted - 2014.04.04 04:59:00 - [12] - Quote Garth Mandra wrote: Caldari also has the advantage of faster HP regen. And better looks. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Eruditus 920 Bragian Order Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2014.04.04 05:25:00 - [13] - Quote Gallente "Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate." Sun Tzu The Art of War "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it." -Robert E. Lee
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 351	Posted - 2014.04.04 05:37:00 - [14] - Quote both Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 634	Posted - 2014.04.04 05:47:00 - [15] - Quote I went caldari after much debate and didnt regret it one bit. Both are solid though and gallante is better solo. I think I might do better with gallante but a squad with a caldari in it is the best swuad
Scout Registry Nos Nothi 1944	Posted - 2014.04.04 05:50:00 - [16] - Quote If you prefer ranged weapons, go Cal. If you prefer CQC weapons, go Gal. Aren't Haerr and Appia in your Corp? They know Scouts inside and out.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1015	Posted - 2014.04.04 05:50:00 - [17] - Quote Thanks so much for the responses thus far guys, I appreciate it. This post is for a corpmate who used to be a Minmatar Assault. He's sitting on a few million skill points after the 1.8 respec, and was having trouble deciding between the two scouts. His playstyle is a fast flanker -- and we virtually always play in a squad. He uses a RR as his main weapon. My gut says Caldari would play better to his strengths and style, but I wanted to solicit the forum's opinion before he spent those few million skill points. Please keep the comments coming, and again my thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and observations....Leadfoot
Scout Registry Nos Nothi 1944	Posted - 2014.04.04 05:58:00 - [18] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Thanks so much for the responses thus far guys, I appreciate it. This post is for a corpmate who used to be a Minmatar Assault. His playstyle is a fast flanker -- and we virtually always play in a squad. My gut says Caldari would play better to his strengths and style, but I wanted to see how you all saw those suits before he spent those few million skill points. Please keep the comments coming, and again my thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and observations....Leadfoot Roger. Minmatar would be the go-to suit for his playstyle, but fitting constraints are a problem this build. And folks are running in packs which makes knifing more difficult this build (compared to last). Gallente's probably his best bet. Low Slots are key for a flanker / infiltrator, and he can specialize further into ewar, biotics, or both. Caldari's excellent for recon, but you won't have enough lows to dodge radar. Damps are pretty f*cking important for a flanker.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 140	Posted - 2014.04.04 06:12:00 - [19] - Quote I'd say caldari. Sure gallente have more low slots, but caldari can plan his attack and enemy position. With 1damp and cloak only another caldari will detect you (and focused, but theyre sht). In prevsious posts there are already informations about them both, im gonna add that : you will see every scout except dampened gallente. This is just great, if you know that you dont have any scout trying to catch you while youre going do so.
Kosakai ZionTCD 48	Posted - 2014.04.04 06:19:00 - [20] - Quote its boring how everybody choose the easier way.... take amarr or winmatar PROUD MINMATAR <3 -- IN RUST IS TRUST FORGE GUN LOVER -- TANK HUNTER SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED .......

Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1294	Posted - 2014.04.04 06:34:00 - [21] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Garth Mandra wrote: Caldari also has the advantage of faster HP regen. And better looks. This is all that matters. Me in my ADS: 1,2
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 140	Posted - 2014.04.04 11:45:00 - [22] - Quote Kosakai wrote: its boring how everybody choose the easier way.... take amarr or winmatar Youre calling it easy because you cant use it or you cant fight/adapt against.
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 1274	Posted - 2014.04.04 11:51:00 - [23] - Quote I have Gallente, Caldari, and Minmatar scouts all to proto. I usually prefer using Minmatar for knifing all the new heavies and mediums but it's not a great anti-scout suit unless I catch them at a distance and can hose them down with my BK-42 ACR. Bringing knives against a scout shotty who is aware of you is usually a quick way to die. I switch to Gallente if there is a Caldari scout trying to hunt me, or Caldari if there are a lot of other non-Gallente scouts running around and cloaked.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5751	Posted - 2014.04.04 12:40:00 - [24] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Kosakai wrote: its boring how everybody choose the easier way.... take amarr or winmatar Youre calling it easy because you cant use it or you cant fight/adapt against. After having played bot shield and armor scout I can honestly say that one is much easier than the other.... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Vyuru Algintal Core Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2014.04.04 12:48:00 - [25] - Quote Sounds like your friend is new to scouts, but with flanking and stuff not so new to how to play 'em. I would recommend getting his feet wet with the Gallente scout. It's a good medium scout suit, that, assuming lvl 5 skills in it, has very nice innate low profile and long range scans. Good slot layouts offer a diversity of fittings styles along with the CPU/PG (again, assuming lvl 5 in relevant skills) to fit. The 3 lows, and innate armor repair, offer the Gallente more independence, and more opportunity to stay behind enemy lines longer. I don't think you could go wrong with either scout, but I will say that only having 2 low slots can impose alot of fitting limitations. At least I always feel like I am sacrificing something on my Matari scout, though, other than the cost, I'd be happy running proto Matari scouts since they have 3 lows.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2089	Posted - 2014.04.04 12:52:00 - [26] - Quote Gal scout http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/565/2421 Reactive plates FTW Drop it like its hat. I´m a fat scout. Do you even lift bro?
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1348	Posted - 2014.04.04 12:57:00 - [27] - Quote Ty-shiek Fakiir wrote: Depends on the preference of playstyle. Caldari for scans (Seeker) Gallente for Stealth (Hider) I personally prefer Caldari That and gal 600+ ehp cal 300+ (i love my cal scout)
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 344	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:01:00 - [28] - Quote I went full Amarr scout on my alt and it's a beast!! Approaching laser optimal captain... Alright scotty decloak and fire all fffflasers!! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Melted!! Alright cloak.. Full sprint to a different angle... (Warp Drive Active) in optimal... Slow to half impulse.. DECLOAK FIRE SECOND VOLLY!! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!! MELETED!!! Sure it's a one trick pony but it's fun on my alt. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 370	Posted - 2014.04.04 13:21:00 - [29] - Quote Talk to your friends and corp members. My little brother switched from Minmatar Scout to Gallente Scout and he loves it. I love my new Caldari Scout, because fast recovery is perfect for hit and run attacks. In a squad our suit bonuses are complimentary. Additionally, you may want to consider the other roles, like AV. I have almost discontinued my Assault AV fits in favor of my Scout AV with cloak. I wouldn't be as effective with a swarm launcher if my bonus was for hacking and NK, but the scan range is always used. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4827	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:30:00 - [30] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Thanks so much for the responses thus far guys, I appreciate it. This post is for a corpmate who used to be a Minmatar Assault. He's sitting on a few million skill points after the 1.8 respec, and was having trouble deciding between the two scouts. His playstyle is a fast flanker -- and we virtually always play in a squad. He uses a RR as his main weapon. My gut says Caldari would play better to his strengths and style, but I wanted to solicit the forum's opinion before he spent those few million skill points. Please keep the comments coming, and again my thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and observations....Leadfoot I must disagree with Scout Registry , sadly for me... I think the Caldari Scout fits better his style. At proto level, equipping a Cx Range amplifier and a Complex Kin cat in your low slots, and at least 1 complex precision enhancer in your high slots results in a VERY capable flanker. With above avarege speed,scout stamina and a very powerful passive scan. So powerful you will be able to scan even scouts without profile dampeners... As a flanker, knowing where people are is a must, and the Caldari Scout can be ''TANKED'' while not loosing SPEED for it...(By ''tanked , i refer to 1 or 2 shield extenders XD) Now , im playing Gal Scout. I find it extremely good, but since active scanners are not so popular anymore i kind of feel like the EXTRA profile dampening is not working for me , at least not all the time, and i kind of wish i had faster HP regen and better scan precision... I'd say your buddy should try out the Cal scout. He wont regret it, specially if he plays with other corp mates frequently. BUT WARNING, the Cal Scout needs the Passive Skills of Dampening, Precision and Scan Range at very high levels for full competence. But i must admit when all 3 are at level 5 and you equip those modules...heh...oh man. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread

Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1613	Posted - 2014.04.04 21:33:00 - [31] - Quote Cal for everything other than scout hunting- 50 hp/s on a 3-second delay with a cloak is simply too good when you have the speed to disengage at will. You can whittle anyone and everything down. Gal for scout hunting, because most scouts don't expect anything to dodge their passive scans. Cal scout has plenty of stealth for dealing with anything other than other scouts, so the Gal's stealth advantage doesn't mean much unless you're scout-hunting. Nerdier than thou
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4829	Posted - 2014.04.04 22:13:00 - [32] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Cal for everything other than scout hunting- 50 hp/s on a 3-second delay with a cloak is simply too good when you have the speed to disengage at will. You can whittle anyone and everything down. Gal for scout hunting, because most scouts don't expect anything to dodge their passive scans. Cal scout has plenty of stealth for dealing with anything other than other scouts, so the Gal's stealth advantage doesn't mean much unless you're scout-hunting. WEll said. Couldnt have said it better myself. I actually enjoy killing scouts mostly, thats why i also use Dual SMG's and not shotguns. I find the SMG more effective while dealing with cloaked speedy bros.... Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2133	Posted - 2014.04.04 22:17:00 - [33] - Quote I like hiding from others so the Gallente Scout is my go-to suit. One ENH or complex and you're good. What are the odds of a Caldari Scout using 2 CPX precision mods, anyways?
neausea 1987 R 0 N 1 N 123	Posted - 2014.04.04 22:19:00 - [34] - Quote MINMITAR............ you're welcome this is all I have a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ.... GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ .... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ ......... Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ i need more QQ tears MORE!!
Scheneighnay McBob Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4618	Posted - 2014.04.04 22:25:00 - [35] - Quote Amarr or minmatar if you're a real scout. I'm from the weird side of the internet
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1031	Posted - 2014.04.05 02:26:00 - [36] - Quote You guys rock! Great input guys. He went Cal Scout for now, and will likely add Gal scout next. Appreciate all your help...Leadfoot


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