the whole ''look with your eyes'' advice doesn't help too much, because i'm focusing on supporting my squad. Easy to detect sillhuettes of regular enemies but man its impossible to detect a shimmer out of the corner of your eye, unless you are looking directly ahead in open space. 1v1 it makes sense to search everywhere for shimmer, but in the middle of a firefigt with the other team with thier own heavies logis and assauts, i dont have time to chase shadows.

Its actually easier to catch cloaks in a heavy suit, cuz you can spray and pray each room you enter.

anyways, just went level 3 in all ewar skills, i'll see how it plays out.

I've been reading threads on how cloaks are OP and are not OP, on how the chevrons are totally visible. For me the're on the verge of it. since a flux oesn't wreck he cloaks, and i have to sacrfice HP to detect scouts while scouts sacrifice nothing to becom invisible, lets just say its frustrating at the very least.

I've been reading threads on how cloaks are OP and are not OP, on how the chevrons are totally visible. For me the're on the verge of it. since a flux oesn't wreck he cloaks, and i have to sacrfice HP to detect scouts while scouts sacrifice nothing to becom invisible, lets just say its frustrating at the very least.

I've noticed its mostly scouts who seem to be able to pick up other scouts. You can take more of a gamble on HP if your invisible i guess.Also that inate passive scan helps.

As a Winmatar Logi/high priority target i'm caught between sacrificing my shields for for precision enhancers. So, any tips and tricks? Besides scouring dust for scouts with complex precision?

Also devs, can we please have a stat listing how much precision/how dampened ur suits are? thanks

You may not see it as helpful advice but it's really the best you can do. If you're getting killed by cloaked scouts a lot then you're letting them flank you and don't have anyone watching the back or sides of your squad/group. I guarantee no one is cloaking at coming at you face on and killing you. If they cloaked and killed you from behind, they could have done the same thing uncloaked and a little bit dampened.

Not necessarily. If this was true people would have already had this problem before 1.8, since most people never carried anything higher than advanced scanners. You can regularly check your six but not catch a cloaked scout because it was moving at walking speed behind two bits of cover, especially when the color of the socket you're in matches the color of the cloak pretty well. Sure you'd catch him if you dedicated one guy to staring to the rear, but you never needed that to pick up on someone who wasn't cloaked. A brief glance to the back every once in a while would suffice unless you were inside a building.

Think about it: uncloaked scout running behind us and I do my regular scan of the back yard. I see a shape out of the corner of my eye. Not only do I know what it is, but I have a direction of travel and we can go do something about it. If the scout is cloaked and he's smart, he isn't sprinting around behind us. I think I see a faint shimmer out of the corner of my eye, but the guy was watching his tacnet and stopped moving the moment I turned, meaning he was flat out invisible by the time he was anywhere close to the middle of the screen. I think I saw something, but I can't be sure and my reticule isn't highlighting anything. When used to be aggressive rather than set up ambushes it's very different from an uncloaked suit.

the whole ''look with your eyes'' advice doesn't help too much, because i'm focusing on supporting my squad. Easy to detect sillhuettes of regular enemies but man its impossible to detect a shimmer out of the corner of your eye, unless you are looking directly ahead in open space. 1v1 it makes sense to search everywhere for shimmer, but in the middle of a firefigt with the other team with thier own heavies logis and assauts, i dont have time to chase shadows.

Its actually easier to catch cloaks in a heavy suit, cuz you can spray and pray each room you enter.

anyways, just went level 3 in all ewar skills, i'll see how it plays out.

I've been reading threads on how cloaks are OP and are not OP, on how the chevrons are totally visible. For me the're on the verge of it. since a flux oesn't wreck he cloaks, and i have to sacrfice HP to detect scouts while scouts sacrifice nothing to becom invisible, lets just say its frustrating at the very least.

I've noticed its mostly scouts who seem to be able to pick up other scouts. You can take more of a gamble on HP if your invisible i guess.Also that inate passive scan helps.

As a Winmatar Logi/high priority target i'm caught between sacrificing my shields for for precision enhancers. So, any tips and tricks? Besides scouring dust for scouts with complex precision?

Also devs, can we please have a stat listing how much precision/how dampened ur suits are? thanks

Don't bother with precision enhancers, there's no way you'd reliably scan cloaked scouts or scan them far enough to be useful/ worth sacrificing tank.

The best option is situational awareness and teamwork. Recognize when there's a scout on the field and when you might be in its area. Stick with others, preferably a gallogi or cal scout, and communicate when you see something of are attacked.

Patch 1.8 has dramatically increased specialization. If you are a minmatar logi, then you shouldn't be picking up scouts, or trying to pick up scouts. Take advantage of your bonus and hug a heavy. You're gonna need those extra extenders in the highs to stay in the fight longer anyways.

On the otherhand, I an a gal logi, picking up scouts is my job, so much so that I usually run 3 scanners. The vision I provide me squad is invaluable, but so is the minmatars skill of keeping his squad nice and healthy, and making heavies invincible.

Everybody cant do everything anymore, stick to what you're good at or you're gimping yourself for no reason.

I have a major problem with getting shotgunned in the back, as I rep the heavy

while scouts sacrifice nothing to becom invisible

If you want to run primarily as a cloak hunter, fit a Logi suit with precision enhancers.

GalLogi with active scanner - when used correctly - is a good way to light up targets for your teammates as well.

If you're not going for stacked precision enhancers on a Logi suit (or a CalScout), then you're not going to be the ideal build for chasing shadows. if you want to find them, you need to be more observant, and get used to looking out for that flicker of blue rather than targeting specific silhouettes. It's possible - and completely viable - to hunt cloaked enemies WITHOUT having the scanning capability required to light them up. It's also worth mentioning that your crosshairs turn red when aiming for a cloaked target in addition to all the other clues about their location. You can use that as a tool for locating your prey.

When you're in the middle of a firefight, you EITHER need someone watching your back as a designated cloak hunter, or you need to simply become more alert to that threat.

Lastly, I want to look at this point from the OP:


Scouts sacrifice nothing to become difficult to see visually and to get a small profile dampening bonus which only lasts for the duration of the cloak. When they aren't cloaked, they're detectable as normal, and when they are cloaked, they still need to stack dampeners WITH the cloak in order to beat good scanners (whether passive or active). If you're brick-tanking with a cloaked Scout, you make yourself an easier target than you want to be. If you're not, you've sacrificed durability and if you get caught out, you're dead before you can react.

Don't bother with precision enhancers, there's no way you'd reliably scan cloaked scouts or scan them far enough to be useful/ worth sacrificing tank.

The best option is situational awareness and teamwork. Recognize when there's a scout on the field and when you might be in its area. Stick with others, preferably a gallogi or cal scout, and communicate when you see something of are attacked.