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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:21:00 -
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This wouldn't effect their layout in anyway but +1 sidearm slot.
They would have 1 light and 2 sidearm.
The weapons would cycle through with the weapon swap button.
Assaults are always QQing about versatility and this could create it.
Just imagine... Cal assault RR main weapon Magsec sidearm Bolt pistol sidearm
Crazy right?
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Kn1qht
INTERDIMENSIONAL SPACE KAT FEDERATION
21
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:22:00 -
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Meee One wrote:This wouldn't effect their layout in anyway but +1 sidearm slot.
They would have 1 light and 2 sidearm.
The weapons would cycle through with the weapon swap button.
Assaults are always QQing abou versatility and this could create it.
Just imagine... Cal assault RR main weapon Magsec sidearm Bolt pistol sidearm
Crazy right?
Get out of here with this . xD
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
642
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:23:00 -
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Ummmm I would expect the Commando to be able to have a extra slot for side arms only
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
331
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:25:00 -
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
640
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:26:00 -
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Assaults aren't versatility. I dont use the sidearm I have now why would I want a second.
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:27:00 -
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No. Bad idea is bad.
There are better ways to 'fix' Assaults other than giving them more weapons. I.e. give them more worthwhile bonuses, better slot layout, or more PG / CPU.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
664
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:27:00 -
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Kn1qht wrote:Meee One wrote:This wouldn't effect their layout in anyway but +1 sidearm slot.
They would have 1 light and 2 sidearm.
The weapons would cycle through with the weapon swap button.
Assaults are always QQing abou versatility and this could create it.
Just imagine... Cal assault RR main weapon Magsec sidearm Bolt pistol sidearm
Crazy right? Get out of here with this . xD Well,it would be feasible. Picture this... The rifle is in their hands but the two sidearms are in holsters on their hips. And when they switch,they sling the rifle on their back and unholster a sidearm.
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance
418
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:29:00 -
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What if the generic 'assault' bonus was a 25% reload speed bonus? And commando's got the pg/cpu reduction instead (allowing them to do things like *actually carry swarm launchers / plasma cannons*) |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens League of Infamy
963
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:29:00 -
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That is a lot of extra PG/CPU wasted on a second sidearm. It is pointless as hell. Most of the time, my rail rifle is enough to kill people as is. When it doesn't, Mrs. Magsec picks up the slack. I have never thought "If only I had another one!"
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Kn1qht
INTERDIMENSIONAL SPACE KAT FEDERATION
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:30:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Kn1qht wrote:Meee One wrote:This wouldn't effect their layout in anyway but +1 sidearm slot.
They would have 1 light and 2 sidearm.
The weapons would cycle through with the weapon swap button.
Assaults are always QQing abou versatility and this could create it.
Just imagine... Cal assault RR main weapon Magsec sidearm Bolt pistol sidearm
Crazy right? Get out of here with this . xD Well,it would be feasible. Picture this... The rifle is in their hands but the two sidearms are in holsters on their hips. And when they switch,they sling the rifle on their back and unholster a sidearm.
Well , that is technically how it work's now my friend . If you think about it .
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Emo Ghost
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:32:00 -
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3 nova knifes.... Yes, perfect.
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:33:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Assaults aren't versatility. I dont use the sidearm I have now why would I want a second.
Then you take the extra CPU/PG that would be given for it and upgrade other kit.
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Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
688
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:37:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Ummmm I would expect the Commando to be able to have a extra slot for side arms only
The Imperial Commando ak.0 actually does have a Side-Arm slot in addition to it's two Light Weapon slots.
It's an oversight obviously, but CCP hasn't done anything to address it yet.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
642
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:41:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Assaults aren't versatility. I dont use the sidearm I have now why would I want a second.
Then you take the extra CPU/PG that would be given for it and upgrade other kit.
That's not gonna fix broken stats, slot layouts and less CPU and pg than logis and scouts.
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excillon
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
367
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:41:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:No. Bad idea is bad.
There are better ways to 'fix' Assaults other than giving them more weapons. I.e. give them more worthwhile bonuses, better slot layout, or more PG / CPU.
This X1000.
Be honest, how often do you use your sidearm over your main? In a firefight, you change to your sidearm if you are trading shots with another guy, or low on ammo on your main. This would do nothing really, unless you go back to pre-nerf flaylocks.
I feel the commando bonus is misplaced. Heavies are for taking more damage, Assaults should be for DEALING more damage. That plus 2% should have been assault bonus, and the PG bonus should have gone to the suit that holds 2 main weapons, the commando. Both would have benefited. The respective bonuses for assault would have looked a lot better that way. The 2% damage bonus, in conjunction with the reload speed/dispersion bonuses would have been a fair counter to heavies and tanked cloak scouts.
But no...and why didn't we get that? Because CCP Shanghai can't do what makes sense, and looking at the various numbers/stats, can't even do basic math.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
642
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:43:00 -
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The best fanfest announcement that could possibly be made is CCP fired the ENTIRE shanghai team, and Iceland is taking TOTAL control.
I endorse this 150%
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:45:00 -
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Second sidearm is relatively useless for an assault, but I wouldn't mind an additional grenade slot, especially considering the reduction in grandes carried numbers.
Being able to decide between locus and flux, or always being able to carry AV would be quite versatile.
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Doctor Day
THE SUPERHEROS
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:47:00 -
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Well if they did,woudl they need to rename the Assault class "PowerRangers"???
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:47:00 -
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I'd prefer "what if Assaults had comparable slot layout, and an extra grenade slot?"
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1371
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:56:00 -
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Meee One wrote:This wouldn't effect their layout in anyway but +1 sidearm slot.
They would have 1 light and 2 sidearm.
The weapons would cycle through with the weapon swap button.
Assaults are always QQing about versatility and this could create it.
Just imagine... Cal assault RR main weapon Magsec sidearm Bolt pistol sidearm
Crazy right?
Umm we don't have enough CPU or PG to fit a suit that can compete with a scout as is and you want to give us another slot? To use it you'd have to put together the lightest fits ever. Bad idea.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
642
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Posted - 2014.04.02 01:57:00 -
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Brokerib wrote:Second sidearm is relatively useless for an assault, but I wouldn't mind an additional grenade slot, especially considering the reduction in grandes carried numbers.
Being able to decide between locus and flux, or always being able to carry AV would be quite versatile.
Assaults aren't meant to be versatile so no.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
666
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:05:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:Meee One wrote:This wouldn't effect their layout in anyway but +1 sidearm slot.
They would have 1 light and 2 sidearm.
The weapons would cycle through with the weapon swap button.
Assaults are always QQing about versatility and this could create it.
Just imagine... Cal assault RR main weapon Magsec sidearm Bolt pistol sidearm
Crazy right? Umm we don't have enough CPU or PG to fit a suit that can compete with a scout as is and you want to give us another slot? To use it you'd have to put together the lightest fits ever. Bad idea. A buff to CPU/PG would be common sense with an extra slot needing it... Plus if you don't like 2 sidearms you could use the extra CPU/PG to upgrade another module.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
642
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:09:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:Meee One wrote:This wouldn't effect their layout in anyway but +1 sidearm slot.
They would have 1 light and 2 sidearm.
The weapons would cycle through with the weapon swap button.
Assaults are always QQing about versatility and this could create it.
Just imagine... Cal assault RR main weapon Magsec sidearm Bolt pistol sidearm
Crazy right? Umm we don't have enough CPU or PG to fit a suit that can compete with a scout as is and you want to give us another slot? To use it you'd have to put together the lightest fits ever. Bad idea. A buff to CPU/PG would be common sense with an extra slot needing it... Plus if you don't like 2 sidearms you could use the extra CPU/PG to upgrade another module.
Whole suit needs an upgrade not a couple CPU or pg for 1 module. Top ten worst ideas I've ever seen on the forums regarding assault suits.
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Rusty Shallows
1364
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:11:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Assaults aren't versatility. I dont use the sidearm I have now why would I want a second.
Then you take the extra CPU/PG that would be given for it and upgrade other kit. That's not gonna fix broken stats, slot layouts and less CPU and pg than logis and scouts. How do you know the amount of extra CPU and Grid that would be given?
If you want broken stats, slot layouts, and CPU/PG then you should have been here during Chrome. It was seriously messed up how terribly overpowered the old Caldari Assault Suit (with two EQ slots) was compared to Scouts, Heavies, and Logis. Uprising is a picnic in comparison.
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Vapor Forseti
THE-TITANS
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:11:00 -
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I always wondered what that third weapon "slot" was or would be used for.
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Kitt 514
True North.
147
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:15:00 -
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Lol ok.
So I'm using my SCR. I'm pretty good at it, so I can feel when I'm about to overheat, so I switch to my sidearm to keep damage up, empty my clip, and hit quickswitch to get back to my OP SCR.
...and then i have another sidearm,
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
642
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:18:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Assaults aren't versatility. I dont use the sidearm I have now why would I want a second.
Then you take the extra CPU/PG that would be given for it and upgrade other kit. That's not gonna fix broken stats, slot layouts and less CPU and pg than logis and scouts. How do you know the amount of extra CPU and Grid that would be given? If you want broken stats, slot layouts, and CPU/PG then you should have been here during Chrome. It was seriously messed up how terribly overpowered the old Caldari Assault Suit (with two EQ slots) was compared to Scouts, Heavies, and Logis. Uprising is a picnic in comparison.
What were it's tanked stats for shield regen? Assault suits should be feared as heavy assault cruisers are in eve. Strong tanks high damage niche suits.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
666
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:18:00 -
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Kitt 514 wrote:Lol ok.
So I'm using my SCR. I'm pretty good at it, so I can feel when I'm about to overheat, so I switch to my sidearm to keep damage up, empty my clip, and hit quickswitch to get back to my OP SCR.
...and then i have another sidearm,
WTF? No,it would go... -Main -Sidearm -Sidearm -Main
It would cycle through them. Unless you only have a single sidearm.
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
666
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:21:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:Assaults aren't versatility. I dont use the sidearm I have now why would I want a second.
Then you take the extra CPU/PG that would be given for it and upgrade other kit. That's not gonna fix broken stats, slot layouts and less CPU and pg than logis and scouts. How do you know the amount of extra CPU and Grid that would be given? If you want broken stats, slot layouts, and CPU/PG then you should have been here during Chrome. It was seriously messed up how terribly overpowered the old Caldari Assault Suit (with two EQ slots) was compared to Scouts, Heavies, and Logis. Uprising is a picnic in comparison. What were it's tanked stats for shield regen? Assault suits should be feared as heavy assault cruisers are in eve. Strong tanks high damage niche suits. The keyword here is "heavy".
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Rusty Shallows
1365
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:29:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:[quote=Rusty Shallows][quote=Auris Lionesse]Assaults aren't versatility. I dont use the sidearm I have now why would I want a second.
If you want broken stats, slot layouts, and CPU/PG then you should have been here during Chrome. It was seriously messed up how terribly overpowered the old Caldari Assault Suit (with two EQ slots) was compared to Scouts, Heavies, and Logis. Uprising is a picnic in comparison. What were it's tanked stats for shield regen? Assault suits should be feared as heavy assault cruisers are in eve. Strong tanks high damage niche suits. They were more feared than either Scouts or Sentinels now. The extra equipment slot at the time rendered Logi's completely obsolete.
Assaults need serious tuning so they can do their role, CCP is working on it. I like these threads that throw ideas out there. This idea is great for three reasons: it gives a reason for increasing the CPU/PG, it plays off the Assault skill, and it doesn't force people in a direction thereby respecting the Sandbox mentality.
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