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Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 5442	Posted - 2014.04.02 02:34:00 - [31] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Brokerib wrote: Second sidearm is relatively useless for an assault, but I wouldn't mind an additional grenade slot, especially considering the reduction in grandes carried numbers. Being able to decide between locus and flux, or always being able to carry AV would be quite versatile. Assaults aren't meant to be versatile so no. I'm pretty sure its in the descriptions *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 644	Posted - 2014.04.02 02:44:00 - [32] - Quote Meee One wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: That's not gonna fix broken stats, slot layouts and less CPU and pg than logis and scouts. How do you know the amount of extra CPU and Grid that would be given? If you want broken stats, slot layouts, and CPU/PG then you should have been here during Chrome. -áIt was seriously messed up how terribly overpowered the old Caldari Assault Suit (with two EQ slots) was compared to Scouts, Heavies, and Logis. -áUprising is a picnic in comparison. What were it's tanked stats for shield regen? Assault suits should be feared as heavy assault cruisers are in eve. Strong tanks high damage niche suits. The keyword here is "heavy". Why is heavy a keyword? It literally has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. there's no such thing as an "assault cruiser" Heavy assault cruiser is the assault cruiser. >insert Piccard face palming here< Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 2148	Posted - 2014.04.02 02:53:00 - [33] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: What if the generic 'assault' bonus was a 25% reload speed bonus? And commando's got the pg/cpu reduction instead (allowing them to do things like actually carry swarm launchers / plasma cannons) You know what. I actually really like this idea. Commando should be about straight damage and the versatility of having two Light Weapons. Assault should be about a never-ending hail of bullets. And a flat 25% reload speed bonus would help with that. Caldari Assault bonus would have to be changed to something like -5% rail weapon spool-up time/level. Helps for RR, MagSec and Bolt Pistol, and honestly isn't that overpowered... good players work around the spool-up time already anyway. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Meee One Hello Kitty Commandos 666	Posted - 2014.04.02 02:58:00 - [34] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Meee One wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: That's not gonna fix broken stats, slot layouts and less CPU and pg than logis and scouts. How do you know the amount of extra CPU and Grid that would be given? If you want broken stats, slot layouts, and CPU/PG then you should have been here during Chrome. -áIt was seriously messed up how terribly overpowered the old Caldari Assault Suit (with two EQ slots) was compared to Scouts, Heavies, and Logis. -áUprising is a picnic in comparison. What were it's tanked stats for shield regen? Assault suits should be feared as heavy assault cruisers are in eve. Strong tanks high damage niche suits. The keyword here is "heavy". Why is heavy a keyword? It literally has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. there's no such thing as an "assault cruiser" Heavy assault cruiser is the assault cruiser. >insert Piccard face palming here< Really? "Strong tanks,high damage niche suits." You said. Sentinels with HMGs already,we have. John 15:13-Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2629	Posted - 2014.04.02 03:07:00 - [35] - Quote Mee are you just but hurt, like real talk? Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Tek Hound Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 183	Posted - 2014.04.02 03:15:00 - [36] - Quote They will still QQ on forums
Meee One Hello Kitty Commandos 667	Posted - 2014.04.02 03:21:00 - [37] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Mee are you just but hurt, like real talk? Well, i was thinking...what makes assaults unique... Heavies have heavy weapons and tank. Lights have stealth and speed. Logis have slots and EQ. But assaults are basically just recolored standard medium frames. With this assaults would have: High base stats and be the "logi" of the weapon world,without stepping on the commandos toes. And yes i am. No one appreciates a pure support logi,so someone has to fight for us. John 15:13-Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 647	Posted - 2014.04.02 03:30:00 - [38] - Quote Meee One wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Meee One wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: Rusty Shallows wrote: How do you know the amount of extra CPU and Grid that would be given? If you want broken stats, slot layouts, and CPU/PG then you should have been here during Chrome. -áIt was seriously messed up how terribly overpowered the old Caldari Assault Suit (with two EQ slots) was compared to Scouts, Heavies, and Logis. -áUprising is a picnic in comparison. What were it's tanked stats for shield regen? Assault suits should be feared as heavy assault cruisers are in eve. Strong tanks high damage niche suits. The keyword here is "heavy". Why is heavy a keyword? It literally has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. there's no such thing as an "assault cruiser" Heavy assault cruiser is the assault cruiser. >insert Piccard face palming here< Really? "Strong tanks,high damage niche suits." You said. Sentinels with HMGs already,we have. Heavys are battleships not cruisers though. Heavy assault is a cruise/medium role Sentinels are defensive like marauders. Point defense. Assaults are offense. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property 1987	Posted - 2014.04.02 03:36:00 - [39] - Quote Meee One wrote: This wouldn't effect their layout in anyway but +1 sidearm slot. They would have 1 light and 2 sidearm. The weapons would cycle through with the weapon swap button. Assaults are always QQing about versatility and this could create it. Just imagine... Cal assault RR main weapon Magsec sidearm Bolt pistol sidearm Crazy right? Yeah cuz that's what I want... But while we're on the subject I'd like to be able to use an hmg on my scout.. People say assaults should be weapon based but they're not give them a DMG bonus or rof bonus idk something assaults need. As it currently stands with the fotm commando or heavy RR once again showing that assault suits are not unique. Blah blah just make it so rifles work better with assaults and no a hip fire bonus doesn't count. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Meee One Hello Kitty Commandos 668	Posted - 2014.04.02 03:37:00 - [40] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Heavys are battleships not cruisers though. Heavy assault is a cruise/medium role Sentinels are defensive like marauders. Point defense. Assaults are offense. Lol,tell that to Minmatar heavies. John 15:13-Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 528	Posted - 2014.04.02 04:16:00 - [41] - Quote I'm not really an assault guy but I worked this out check it. Protofits.Corn We can pickle that.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 304	Posted - 2014.04.02 04:42:00 - [42] - Quote All I can say is this is a unique idea. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 tanks, you will be missed.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 317	Posted - 2014.04.02 07:10:00 - [43] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: No. Bad idea is bad. There are better ways to 'fix' Assaults other than giving them more weapons. I.e. give them more worthwhile bonuses, better slot layout, or more PG / CPU. Having more potential HP than their corresponding racial logi would be a good start. Scouts can max tank roughly 50% of the HP of its corresponding racial logi. Racial assaults only get approx 200hp less than their equivalent logi. I'd still rather run a logi than an assault
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2655	Posted - 2014.04.02 07:35:00 - [44] - Quote OP - you have truly terrible ideas. Why would anyone want 2 sidearms and a light weapon!? How on earth does that make any suit stronger in any way!? Seriously, assaults just need to get the slot and stat adjustment they should have gotten alongside scouts and heavies. When that happens, everything will be fine. And then the bricktanking > ALL problem can be fixed too. Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 1078	Posted - 2014.04.02 07:47:00 - [45] - Quote My assault is powerful as it is. Just needs the systems and slot adjustment CCP mentioned they couldn't rework for 1.8 After that has been implemented then see about adjusting it further if needed. But as I said, doing very well already. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2106	Posted - 2014.04.02 07:55:00 - [46] - Quote How about an extra grenade slot instead? Then they can carry both AV and flux or Locus, that will be useful and actually make sense. FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 651	Posted - 2014.04.02 10:25:00 - [47] - Quote KingBabar wrote: How about an extra grenade slot instead? Then they can carry both AV and flux or Locus, that will be useful and actually make sense. No. extra grenade or sidearm is off the table From this point forward no one suggest that. Okay fresh start everyone continue with good ideas. Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
DEZKA DIABLO THE FOOTCLAN 571	Posted - 2014.04.02 11:07:00 - [48] - Quote Lol nice way to just get more CPU/ PG , sneaky=ƒæî Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2352	Posted - 2014.04.02 11:26:00 - [49] - Quote da GAND wrote: Ummmm I would expect the Commando to be able to have a extra slot for side arms only WTF? They have 2 Light Weapon Slots, that's there role, why would you then need to give them extra weapons because Assaults got an extra cr*ppy little sidearm? Yes OP it might work, but most Assaults don't use the first sidearm let alone the second. Unfortunately with the resources available in this build we don't really have anything for the Assault to specalise in. At least not that fits CCP's description. In later builds where we have T3 Weapons Systems and Deployable Turrets then prehaps the Assault could be given a better role, but at this point in time, its just not really possible. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 725	Posted - 2014.04.02 11:30:00 - [50] - Quote Meee One wrote: This wouldn't effect their layout in anyway but +1 sidearm slot. They would have 1 light and 2 sidearm. The weapons would cycle through with the weapon swap button. Assaults are always QQing about versatility and this could create it. Just imagine... Cal assault RR main weapon Magsec sidearm Bolt pistol sidearm Crazy right? LOL Omg your trolling rite ? your not ?!? LOL !!! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!



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