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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
211
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:04:00 -
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It is a little bit of a problem that we're now seeing all kinds of scouts running needles and reps. They almost make a better logi, as don't passive scans get shared with squad members? Just throw on some range enhancers... |
Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
667
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:05:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:This was a April fools joke...wasn't it... No, of course it wasn't.
John 15:13-Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
211
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:06:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:
Only an idiot snipes in a scout suit. It is by far the worst fit for it. At this point you'd be best off using a Cal Commando since you'd get a 10% damage mod from skills and be able to stack damage mods on top of that.
^off topic I know but it had to be said.
Hmm... if you're using a thales and don't want to be found nothing better than a gk0 scout with a bunch of dampeners. |
Onesimus Tarsus
GamersForChrist
1762
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:09:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Are you seriously comparing Logis, who have more mod and Equipment slots than any other class suit, to Scouts, who get merely a Cloak to make them (more or less) balanced? You say that like they couldn't wreak havoc with out the cloak.
I know I do. =ƒÿå
If you don't see me, it's because I'm not where you're looking.
I'd rather be unscannable than invisible.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
991
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:27:00 -
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I think the flip flop in relative strength of logi and scout is CCP's way of equalizing the karma of slayerlogis dominating lolscouts of 1.7 and earlier.
Karma's a *****. |
DEZKA DIABLO
Inner.Hell
569
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:28:00 -
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Give it a rest, everyone trying to think of a new way to break scouts, just buff something else!
Like I really wanna run knives an no gun ; you should be banned lol
Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
668
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:32:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I think the flip flop in relative strength of logi and scout is CCP's way of equalizing the karma of slayerlogis dominating lolscouts of 1.7 and earlier.
Karma's a *****. Yeah,i wasn't one of them and yet i have to be penalised because of their actions?
Your version of "karma" is a busted joke.
John 15:13-Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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Alena Ventrallis
PAND3M0N1UM Lokun Listamenn
1093
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:42:00 -
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2 sidearms, I can get behind.
1 sidearm? Go to hell.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
Fixed link.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
4923
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:44:00 -
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Why are your ideas always so...
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
668
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:46:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:2 sidearms, I can get behind.
1 sidearm? Go to hell. That's fine too... i suppose...
John 15:13-Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
4924
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Posted - 2014.04.02 03:49:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Why are your ideas always so... ^Not a compliment.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
2942
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Posted - 2014.04.02 04:38:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:This was a April fools joke...wasn't it... No, of course it wasn't. Damn, you got me if it was xD
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
662
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Posted - 2014.04.02 04:41:00 -
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because of the slayer logi that used to exist
/thread
B.D. Wong AKA Dr. Wu returns to Jurassic Park sequel
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
974
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Posted - 2014.04.02 04:46:00 -
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Honestly, I don't even think scout needs two. It's not like a scout would survive a long shootout just to switch to the secondary and be saved by it. I personally would be ok with only one L slot on a scout.
To address the point about logi. Teleologically, logi does not get a secondary because they use up all available space for equip and just have no room left for a secondary weapon.
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
101
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Posted - 2014.04.02 05:02:00 -
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I use two + RE
Shotgun is my backup, SMG is my default.
Once surprise and/or range is lost second weapon is needed.
Cloak is only useful in getting places or the first shot. After that its tactics, weapon selection and knowing when to run... Hopefully with a RE around the corner to trap any one chasing you down. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
4402
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Posted - 2014.04.02 05:03:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:Honestly, I don't even think scout needs two. It's not like a scout would survive a long shootout just to switch to the secondary and be saved by it. I personally would be ok with only one L slot on a scout.
What???? Surely you jest.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1719
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Posted - 2014.04.02 05:04:00 -
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Scout sniper would carry a rifle and sidearm for CQ. Hence, scouts have two slots. AndGǪ we're awesome!
Brick tanking a scout suit since April 2013!
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McFurious
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
688
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Posted - 2014.04.02 05:21:00 -
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Oh I got a great idea: How about scouts get ammo pool penalty for light weapons. Starts at -50% at basic, goes up to -25% at proto.
Half Irish. Often angry.
Closed Beta Masshole
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Meee One
Hello Kitty Commandos
671
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Posted - 2014.04.02 05:42:00 -
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You all danced marvellously.
John 15:13-Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
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Rasp Terriblz
Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy
10
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Posted - 2014.04.02 11:21:00 -
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You -.- |
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Echo 1991
WarRavens League of Infamy
174
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Posted - 2014.04.02 11:27:00 -
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I think they should test 2 side arm slots. That way scouts can still be a beast in cqc and only lose some of their bite. |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
872
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Posted - 2014.04.02 11:36:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Meee One wrote:LOL "merely". Logis may get the most slots but they don't count for jack if someone can out run you,be invisible and OHK you,and still out tank you. This doesn't even count REs which mainly logis are the targets of.
The only Scout that can out tank a Logi is the Gallente, and even that could be a stretch because Logis can get 1000+ HP. I target Heavies with REs more than Logis. Generally it takes more than one shot to take down a good Logi. This is just another butthurt Cloak thread. Don't nerf my crutch!
To be fair the amarr should be as well able to outtank a non tanked logi. But for a fully brick tanked logi ist easy possible to get more hp than any scout....and still I see way more Assault Logis than assault scouts.
Apart from assault suits IMHO the suits are pretty well balanced right now. |
Admonishment
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
169
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Posted - 2014.04.02 11:57:00 -
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People will complain about scouts killing them until the day they can only melee and then when they manage to still kill them, they will want to gimp it more lol. They were being complained about even before the update, the most memorable two I seen were people complaining about a knives killing them lol and scouts using pistols...what can scouts do that wont raise complaints that doesn't involve just standing in the background dropping uplinks and staring at other suits as they kill each other? It's funny people were suggesting limiting them to sidearms when there are others threads complaining about scouts using them.
I don't always win 1v1 but... when I don't, I cry for nerfs. Stay nerfing my friends.
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Kosakai
ZionTCD
47
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Posted - 2014.04.02 12:04:00 -
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it will be the end for NK
PROUD MINMATAR <3 -- IN RUST IS TRUST
FORGE GUN LOVER -- TANK HUNTER
SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED .......
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Echo 1991
WarRavens League of Infamy
174
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Posted - 2014.04.02 12:04:00 -
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Admonishment wrote:People will complain about scouts killing them until the day they can only melee and then when they manage to still kill them, they will want to gimp it more lol. They were being complained about even before the update, the most memorable two I seen were people complaining about a knives killing them lol and scouts using pistols...what can scouts do that wont raise complaints that doesn't involve just standing in the background dropping uplinks and staring at other suits as they kill each other? It's funny people were suggesting limiting them to sidearms when there are others threads complaining about scouts using them. Getting killed by a scout is not a problem. A scout being able to get more hp and still be faster and undetectable that is the problem. Medium suits can get more hp sure, but you move slow, cant fit a really good weapon and cant increase range of passive scans or lower their profile/precision without gimping their tank.
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Corporation
515
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Posted - 2014.04.02 12:05:00 -
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Meee One wrote:while the suit below them in the suit food chain Stopped reading here |
Marc Rime
352
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Posted - 2014.04.02 12:25:00 -
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What problem are you trying to solve? I mean, other than "a scout killed me so I'll try to come up with ways to nerf them"?
Removing the sidearm would do nothing to counteract the, as far as I can tell, most common complaints here on the forums (whether they are justified or not is beside the point). It would, however, severely limit the suit in other situations/uses. |
DTOracle
BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS
260
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Posted - 2014.04.02 12:40:00 -
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This is your opinion. & opinion are like @$$holes, everyone has one & they ALL stink.
Logi's also have 2X the equipment slots, the best slot layouts, & tons CPU/PG. This is what sacrificing their sidearm gets them. & why do so many believe that scouts aren't made for killing. We are the counter to heavies & other scouts, what do you want us to do, hug them? |
Rasp Terriblz
Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy
10
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:14:00 -
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DTOracle wrote:This is your opinion. & opinion are like @$$holes, everyone has one & they ALL stink.
Logi's also have 2X the equipment slots, the best slot layouts, & tons CPU/PG. This is what sacrificing their sidearm gets them. & why do so many believe that scouts aren't made for killing. We are the counter to heavies & other scouts, what do you want us to do, hug them? Does this mean Minjas would get +5% hug efficacy per level? :3 |
Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves
316
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:25:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Heavy -Heavy weapon slot,sidearm slot -or- 2x light weapon slots Medium+ assault- Light weapon slot,sidearm slot Medium logistics- Light weapon slot Light-Light weapon slot, sidearm slot
Why do scouts get 2 weapon slots? I mean seriously,logistics,the work horse of the battlefield gets 1,while the suit below them in the suit food chain gets 2.
Shouldn't they be limited to just a single sidearm slot? It's the recon unit it isn't supposed to be able to overpower any other suit.
It really sucks that the suit with the most responsibilities,and least survival rate has only one weapon,and 0 adequate defenses. While the suit that's supposed to be the least combat effective can OHK them, and get away completely unseen. That is in no way balanced...
True logibros know you can never count on your team to defend/fight on your behalf,even in a squad. So before you post in your stupidly i've already replied.(see above about "let your team/squad defend you" bs)
Light frames are all about E-war cupcake.
So on the offensive scale. Scouts are above logistics.
I do not know love, only ( -í° -£-û -í°).
Closed Beta Vet
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