You can skill the exact same suits to the exact same points with the exact same ISK. All the ISK and SP from those suits were refunded to you. And you can put them all back in the same place. If you want to.

Stop playing then if CCP is so bad... just sayin!

Temba, I'm saying you can put the same skill points back into the same skills, and you will be able to use those suits again. They simply gave you the option to redistribute those skills.

Yes and it was an exercise I do not wish to repeat multiple times in the future.

Of course they will make changes but they need to do it in a fashion that's the least disruptive to gameplay and the players.

I do not think they gave to sh__s about how we felt about retraining. That is my point, we are being used like it's still Beta.

I want the game to survive and thrive, pissing off players for no good reason is not the way to achieve that.

Temba, the only reason this happened was because the playerbase had a tantrum about the possibility of not having one. CCP didn't intend to give a respec, but the community demanded one. Realistically, they would've ticked off more players by not doing it.

In many cases though, Canari, CPM already know the problem. Getting CCP to fix it, however, is an entirely different matter.

All it takes is for CCP to finally impliment the player market and this would be a non-issue.

If you have a ton of equipment/suits that you dont wish to use, just drop it on the market and get your money back.

As I stated in another thread, I would be so very happy if the community focused more on solutions than raising complaints about certain scenarios. Current and future CPMs will be much more likely to listen to a player's concern if they have already thought out a rough idea of how to fix the problem that they have. Remember, CPMs are nothing more than player advocates. They are not purposed to have to come up with solutions to problems. Its up to the players to decide on what will make them like the game more.

Temba, bear in mind that technology in DUST is different. The materials used in DUST equipment is also different.

I can buy a car for less than I paid for my Google Glass device. Why? Because one might be a few decades old, and one is newer and more advanced technology. The "mineral content" of Glass is a minute fraction of that car, but that's not what determines the market value of something.

Respecs are typically something that CCP rejects, and while there are several reasons there have been respecs lately, a more responsible approach to development would remove those 'needs' for respecs.

That aside, in the case of respec, perhaps it would be best if CCP gave the option to "revert" and auto-skill into the same skills you had prior to the respec. Obviously if you wanted to make changes it would need to be done manually, but for players like you who want to go back into the same skillset, it would provide for a 1-click option to avoid that inconvenience.

Temba, I've played EVE online for several years. Many things of widely disproportionate material value are made from the same materials. There's a lot more that goes into prices than just materials.

Temba, even if the base materials are mostly the same, think about how Tech 2 ships, for example, are limited. Sure, their hulls are Tritanium like all the others, but there are additional components with much higher value. The availability of those components gates the price for those vessels. Similarly, dropsuits will surely use at least some components unique to DUST.

In fact, they have to. In order to preserve economic balance, DUST suits need to be build primarily with DUST materials, ISK-wise. Maybe a suit requires like one Tritanium to build for the "hull", but a host of special components that can only be acquired in DUST.

And actually... let's throw some lore in here, Temba:

"When set off, the tritanium's contact with air would cause a violent expansion that broke through the bomb's shell along with anything else in the near vicinity."
- EVE: The Burning Life, by Hjalti Danielsson

Not sure something that "violently expands" when it touches air is a good thing to build dropsuits out of. So there's your lore evidence that dropsuits use different materials.

You mention that "In order to preserve economic balance, DUST suits need to be build primarily with DUST materials, ISK-wise. Maybe a suit requires like one Tritanium to build for the "hull", but a host of special components that can only be acquired in DUST." is that your opinion or a fact?

So if crew breathes air clearly the volatile tritanium is not used in any portion of the ship people inhabit. Tritanium is just one material used in building ships and space gear used by capsuleers.

To say that because one material used by capsuleers to build ship hulls in not usable in atmospheres means that some new material required to build suits is not available to capsuleers just does not track in my humble opinion sir.

This is a fact.

The essential point is that EVE's economy could use an ISK sink, and it could use an ISK exchange, but DUST should not allow large amounts of ISK to flow into EVE's economy. If DUST suits, tanks, etc. are largely built with EVE materials, and sold to DUST mercs for ISK, then ISK is flowing into EVE. Also, then DUST's side of the economy will be ISK poor, since they had to send it all to EVE players for things.

However, if DUST materials are used, then the EVE industrialist will have to buy those materials from a DUST player (sending ISK to DUST) and then selling those DUST items back to DUST players (sending ISK back to EVE, with a profit margin). As it is, that will entail *some* ISK moving from DUST to EVE, but at a much smaller rate, overall.

It's an economic control. And similar to how CCP can adjust rates of items in EVE dropping or being refined to tweak the economy, they can tweak DUST item drop rates to tweak the economy from that end. It allows CCP to ensure the game remains economically stable, and that neither game topples the economy of the other.

So even if the hull of the suits are a DUST mineral, the bulk majority of the suits' value needs to come from DUST-specific components, which could come in the form of specific types of circuitry, similar to salvage items in EVE.

They may map out a good way for CCP to proceed but they have not done so yet, which means your speculative conclusions are at best just that, speculative conclusions.

It troubles me that a potential CPM candidate can not discern the difference between objective facts and their own educated speculative conclusions.