DUST Search - does kdr matter to you

1pawn dust wrote:

ZDub 303 wrote:

its an FPS, of course it is.

KDR is literally the only important stat in this game.

In PC its about winning and in pubs its about KDR.

What a bunch of bullshit.

Dust514 is all about the victory, Cod is a KDR game. What use is KDR when you portray an immortal clone soldier?

I get getting tabs on WP as it is a much more useful stat to keep track on general usefulness, but KDR tells me what? For instance if you rock a 10.5 KDR it can mean anything, you run in good squad, you protostomp, you snipe, you HAV.

Its a useful figure and a damaging one, some peeps have such a small epeen they will go out of their way to improve it over things such as squad/team proper integration, fulling needed roles, anything really with the risk of death.

CCP needs to get it removed, aside from ISK its one of the reasons we have red line snipers/HAV in the first place.

If Dust was a balanced game and was of a similar format of Cod or BF then sure, but in a game where you can farm KDR by simply being a tryhard or a scrub it means nothing, hell you dont even need good skills to improve it, just time and selfishness lol.

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shadow drake35 the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 108	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:48:00 - [1] - Quote me personally idc if I fo 15/3 or 3/15. To me all that matters is if i had fun and if it was a good fair fight(competition) MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
Onesimus Tarsus GamersForChrist 1748	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:49:00 - [2] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: me personally idc if I fo 15/3 or 3/15. To me all that matters is if i had fun and if it was a good fair fight(competition) If KDR does matter, it should be the stat used first for matchmaking. If you don't see me, it's because I'm not where you're looking. I'd rather be unscannable than invisible.
shadow drake35 the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 108	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:50:00 - [3] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: me personally idc if I fo 15/3 or 3/15. To me all that matters is if i had fun and if it was a good fair fight(competition) If KDR does matter, it should be the stat used first for matchmaking. yes less protostomping tankers can kill each other that would make the game so much more fun protostomper will QQ to that tho andd ccp will lisen to them MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2414	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:52:00 - [4] - Quote its an FPS, of course it is. KDR is literally the only important stat in this game. In PC its about winning and in pubs its about KDR.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1304	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:54:00 - [5] - Quote ISK efficiency matters to me. WP's earned matters to me. Kills matter to me. The number of times I died succeeding in the above mentioned areas is almost irrelevant. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Byozuma Kegawa Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 207	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:54:00 - [6] - Quote Kill ratio means nothing to me. It's fun when I get a ration of 1 or 2 at the end of a match, but more often than not it's .1 than 1. I play a logistics, though, so my main concern in a serious match is not to kill the next person but to heal the next team mate I see down or make sure the front line stays in front with uplinks. Any logistic that says otherwise isn't a true logistic.
Zimander 34	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:54:00 - [7] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: me personally idc if I fo 15/3 or 3/15. To me all that matters is if i had fun and if it was a good fair fight(competition) For me Dust is a relax after work
shadow drake35 the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 108	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:56:00 - [8] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: its an FPS, of course it is. KDR is literally the only important stat in this game. In PC its about winning and in pubs its about KDR. thats cod this is dust MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2414	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:56:00 - [9] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: its an FPS, of course it is. KDR is literally the only important stat in this game. In PC its about winning and in pubs its about KDR. thats cod this is dust and they are both first person shooters... wow gosh... look at that...
shadow drake35 the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 108	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:58:00 - [10] - Quote Byozuma Kegawa wrote: Kill ratio means nothing to me. It's fun when I get a ratio of 1 or 2 at the end of a match, but more often than not it's .1 than 1. I play a logistics, though, so my main concern in a serious match is not to kill the next person but to heal the next team mate I see down or make sure the front line stays in front with uplinks. Any logistic that says otherwise isn't a true logistic. thank you thats why i love logi but i play all classes but i do play logi a decent amout i need to lower my go to standard cause advanced cost to much and the only reason im put that there is to fight off maybe one guy or two to get out of tight spots MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran

Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 256	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:58:00 - [11] - Quote As an immortal clone super soldier, who is respawned without having to pay for the clones lost, it seems so unimportant. But, yeah I'd rather have fun and play with knives/reptools/re's/generally any weapon that has a reputation of being UP and nerfed. Because that's fun. I'd rather have an average efficiency board where your earnings minus the costs of suits you died in are compared with others. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
1pawn dust Algintal Core Gallente Federation 55	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:59:00 - [12] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: its an FPS, of course it is. KDR is literally the only important stat in this game. In PC its about winning and in pubs its about KDR. What a bunch of bullshit. Dust514 is all about the victory, Cod is a KDR game. What use is KDR when you portray an immortal clone soldier? I get getting tabs on WP as it is a much more useful stat to keep track on general usefulness, but KDR tells me what? For instance if you rock a 10.5 KDR it can mean anything, you run in good squad, you protostomp, you snipe, you HAV. Its a useful figure and a damaging one, some peeps have such a small epeen they will go out of their way to improve it over things such as squad/team proper integration, fulling needed roles, anything really with the risk of death. CCP needs to get it removed, aside from ISK its one of the reasons we have red line snipers/HAV in the first place. If Dust was a balanced game and was of a similar format of Cod or BF then sure, but in a game where you can farm KDR by simply being a tryhard or a scrub it means nothing, hell you dont even need good skills to improve it, just time and selfishness lol.
shadow drake35 the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 110	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:59:00 - [13] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: its an FPS, of course it is. KDR is literally the only important stat in this game. In PC its about winning and in pubs its about KDR. thats cod this is dust and they are both first person shooters... wow gosh... look at that... if you look you are the only one that care but dont say that cause they are a fps they are completely different games and have very few thing similar MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1696	Posted - 2014.03.31 17:59:00 - [14] - Quote Let's see. I spend my time dying from crashing my dropship, rolling my tank headlong into rail fire, run around in a scout suit in broad daylightGÇª no, no I don't care about KDR. "Stay stealthy scouts." GÇô Ron Burgundy
shadow drake35 the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 110	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:01:00 - [15] - Quote 1pawn dust wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: its an FPS, of course it is. KDR is literally the only important stat in this game. In PC its about winning and in pubs its about KDR. What a bunch of bullshit. Dust514 is all about the victory, Cod is a KDR game. What use is KDR when you portray an immortal clone soldier? I get getting tabs on WP as it is a much more useful stat to keep track on general usefulness, but KDR tells me what? For instance if you rock a 10.5 KDR it can mean anything, you run in good squad, you protostomp, you snipe, you HAV. Its a useful figure and a damaging one, some peeps have such a small epeen they will go out of their way to improve it over things such as squad/team proper integration, fulling needed roles, anything really with the risk of death. CCP needs to get it removed, aside from ISK its one of the reasons we have red line snipers/HAV in the first place. If Dust was a balanced game and was of a similar format of Cod or BF then sure, but in a game where you can farm KDR by simply being a tryhard or a scrub it means nothing, hell you dont even need good skills to improve it, just time and selfishness lol. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MY POINT, SO VERY TRUE MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
Hecarim Van Hohen 842	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:01:00 - [16] - Quote KDR alongside with WP, damage dealt, hacks and counter hacks (I'd like to see both of these tracked by the game) Point defense sentinel has little to track ps. burn maim kill and so on If God had wanted you to live, he would not have created me!
neausea 1987 R 0 N 1 N 96	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:02:00 - [17] - Quote my k/d went from a 3.5 to a 2.19 why you ask well because i love to have fun ya know the reason why you play games in the first place. and no i dont suck i have tons of awesome games and even my rough ones vs 2 Q synced teams or one team of proto i always pull even. K/D does not matter in this game at all. i see plenty of people with great K/D and that does not stop me from killing them in 1 on 1 engagments. PS leave a story on when your K/D has gotten you laid* NEVER!!!!! so do what you do most ( i mean most) K/D whores will leave the game anyway if you smack em a few times and the cant find a way to kill you, (you know who you are) bottom line have fun. K/d is as useful as the blue dot that walks away from the objective thats being hacked next to him. this is all I have a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ.... GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ .... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ ......... Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ i need more QQ tears MORE!!
agent caron DUST University Ivy League 14	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:03:00 - [18] - Quote To me KDR in this game is not important. I think that your usefullness to your team ,and how good you are at what you do to help your team is what realy matters. My recruiter link
Void Echo Total Extinction 2341	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:04:00 - [19] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: its an FPS, of course it is. KDR is literally the only important stat in this game. In PC its about winning and in pubs its about KDR. thats cod this is dust and they are both first person shooters... wow gosh... look at that... if KDR is the most important thing in this game, why cant I purchase my stuff with KDR instead of ISK. Youtube Closed Beta Vet CEO: Total Extinction
shadow drake35 the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 110	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:04:00 - [20] - Quote agent caron wrote: To me KDR in this game is not important. I think that your usefullness to your team ,and how good you are at what you do to help your team is what realy matters. that is what matters MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran

ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2414	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:05:00 - [21] - Quote 1pawn dust wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: its an FPS, of course it is. KDR is literally the only important stat in this game. In PC its about winning and in pubs its about KDR. What a bunch of bullshit. Dust514 is all about the victory, Cod is a KDR game. What use is KDR when you portray an immortal clone soldier? I get getting tabs on WP as it is a much more useful stat to keep track on general usefulness, but KDR tells me what? KDR tells you how good of a player you are. all trolling here aside, KDR is less relevant in Dust than other MW shooters due to the use of isk. It would be better if end of match screens had isk efficiency instead, and the gaming culture developed around that instead. it would also probably help curb pubstomps. Where ISK Eff. = ISK Destroyed / ISK Lost - where both of these numbers are not effected by revives. Meaning each player has to 'bleed out' for the number to take effect. That would be much more relevant in this game for sure. EoM scoreboard should also show WP / ISK Lost. Maybe someday CCP will remove KDR as the most important stat in this game. Until its off EoM leaderboards and the first stat on the character sheet though, its the most important in the context of the game as it stands. Should it be? I dont think so either.
shadow drake35 the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 110	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:05:00 - [22] - Quote Void Echo wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: shadow drake35 wrote: ZDub 303 wrote: its an FPS, of course it is. KDR is literally the only important stat in this game. In PC its about winning and in pubs its about KDR. thats cod this is dust and they are both first person shooters... wow gosh... look at that... if KDR is the most important thing in this game, why cant I purchase my stuff with KDR instead of ISK. haha this made me laugh since i play logi decent amount i cant by alot MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2281	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:06:00 - [23] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: ISK efficiency matters to me. WP's earned matters to me. Kills matter to me. The number of times I died succeeding in the above mentioned areas is almost irrelevant. this man thinks like me =)
Bax Zanith 98	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:06:00 - [24] - Quote KDR, couldn't care less. Deaths however is a different story. I pay close attention to my earnings and how much ISK iv lost on deaths. Basicly I try not to die more than ten times, and I feel like I didn't spend too much ISK. I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.
shadow drake35 the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 110	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:08:00 - [25] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: ISK efficiency matters to me. WP's earned matters to me. Kills matter to me. The number of times I died succeeding in the above mentioned areas is almost irrelevant. this man thinks like me =) ya isk matters to me so i can use the suits i like to but kdr means nothing to me MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6309	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:09:00 - [26] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: and they are both first person shooters... wow gosh... look at that... Except the other is also an "MMO" The Snack That Smiles Back! "Swarmers" [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
shadow drake35 the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 110	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:09:00 - [27] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: KDR, couldn't care less. Deaths however is a different story. I pay close attention to my earnings and how much ISK iv lost on deaths. Basicly I try not to die more than ten times, and I feel like I didn't spend too much ISK. same but like for logi you support so im ok with losing some suits cause i make a decent money unless it a stomp MAG Raven, Valor, and S.V.E.R. Veteran
neausea 1987 R 0 N 1 N 96	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:09:00 - [28] - Quote K/D in some ways shows an average skill level but i know of scrubs that come in a game just to snipe get 3-0 and lose do that 1,000 times and you will have a sweet KDR but what effect do you have on the game. (not a crack on real snipers) this is all I have a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ.... GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ .... (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ ......... Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ i need more QQ tears MORE!!
Scheherazade VII 375	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:11:00 - [29] - Quote 8213 summed it up in his youtube video perfectly: "if KDR doesn't matter then pubs don't matter because that's where your KDR comes from". POW right in the kisser!
Duke Noobiam Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 48	Posted - 2014.03.31 18:11:00 - [30] - Quote shadow drake35 wrote: me personally idc if I fo 15/3 or 3/15. To me all that matters is if i had fun and if it was a good fair fight(competition) It matters in that I strive to improve it, but not to the point where I am putting it above winning (or trying to win). When the red river runs, take the dirt road.



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