It is apparent that PC corporations are in no position to govern themselves as many found that grouping together to monopolize the game mode is far more profitable that playing it as intended. The renting of districts and paying protection fees is not what was intended. It has turned into its worst possible form. An extortion machine.

The Council should weigh in on this topic. I'm especially interested in how Kain Spero feels about it, considering he played a part in orchestrating this method of exaction and extortion.

It's apparent that this does not help grow the community and only serves to further the divide between new players and veterans.


I say we freeze all PC assets. Donate any generated income towards NPE programs. Pilot incentives for new players. Providing grants for new players.

As well as provide Dust University with their own space within PC that would forever remain neutral.

There must be rules.

We need The Council.

There is nothing wrong with setting up a protection racket in DUST. That sort of thing is expected in New Eden. EVE Corps rent systems in Sov space all the time. How can you possibly believe that this is a bad thing?

Kain Spero is involved in several inventive business ventures. All that I know of fall within the framework of legitimate business practices.

If DUST University gets their own space within PC, shouldnGÇÖt we at Immortal Guides get our own space too?
(No I am not asking CCP to hand me a safe district. I am just pointing out the fallacy of his proposal. Why give special treatment to one Corp above all others?)

Really? Do you REALLY want people attacking your districts when you are at work, or when you are sleeping? Have you thought this through at all?

If you look at PC just as a way of generating matches, then stick to Pub matches. PC is supposed to be about holding territory, but it is unreasonable to have to have a full team on standby 24 hours a day, so instead we have timbers.

M1tch...one of my frustrations is that many of Dust's best aren't getting richer. There are actually large numbers of very good players and high quality smaller corps that simply can't even get in the arena so to speak.

At this point the landowning mechanics and economic advantage is so heavily tilted it removes the option of even competing for many.

This is where having active members comes in. It's a two sided coin. Not only are your districts vulnerable, but so are everyone else's. If the land itself isn't the value, but the battles themselves that lead to the riches it could work. I think this is a better approach to fill the gap while a better Eve/Dust connection is created.

So you want to turn PC into Pub matches? I fundamentally disagree with that view! The appeal of Planetary Conquest is the ability to hold land. DonGÇÖt write off the premise based on an inadequate implementation. Just because they screwed it up the first time does not mean that it canGÇÖt be done right.

I might as well post the link here, as this is the discussion that spawned me to make the flowchart in the first place.

Planetary Conquest 2.0 Conceptual Design - The Pokey Method
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153445

Really? Do you REALLY want people attacking your districts when you are at work, or when you are sleeping? Have you thought this through at all?

If you look at PC just as a way of generating matches, then stick to Pub matches. PC is supposed to be about holding territory, but it is unreasonable to have to have a full team on standby 24 hours a day, so instead we have timbers.

Oh man I tryed to not post anything about this.

Yes bud the corp should be on standby 24/7 to hold districts.
To hold a district should be a megacorps job. So when you go to bed/work/whatever others keeps the fight going.
However it should not be so that the attacker have a instant battle after atacking. Idk maybee the battle starts 3 houers after atack order is issued. ( just a sugestion bud )
The current timer system only benefit the defender period.

Also this permits some kind of guerrilla tactics. Smal corps can hit and flip districts if a mega corp becomes to big and don't have the manpower to defend everything. It also ads the cool aspect that a mega corp have to deside what to defend what to retake etc etc.

So many posts is about I.
There is no I in holding districts.

And FINNALY what does it matter if you fight to retake a lost district or fighting to defend it?
Atleast you are playing the game on a higher and more fun lvl when you are online, not as it is now you loog in and there is a Pc match a cuple of hours away ( or you log in only to do the PC match ).

Any one that fail to realise this do not c the big picture and only c the I

regards

Oh man I tryed to not post anything about this.

Yes bud the corp should be on standby 24/7 to hold districts.
To hold a district should be a megacorps job. So when you go to bed/work/whatever others keeps the fight going.
However it should not be so that the attacker have a instant battle after atacking. Idk maybee the battle starts 3 houers after atack order is issued. ( just a sugestion bud )
The current timer system only benefit the defender period.

Also this permits some kind of guerrilla tactics. Smal corps can hit and flip districts if a mega corp becomes to big and don't have the manpower to defend everything. It also ads the cool aspect that a mega corp have to deside what to defend what to retake etc etc.

So many posts is about I.
There is no I in holding districts.

And FINNALY what does it matter if you fight to retake a lost district or fighting to defend it?
Atleast you are playing the game on a higher and more fun lvl when you are online, not as it is now you loog in and there is a Pc match a cuple of hours away ( or you log in only to do the PC match ).

Any one that fail to realise this do not c the big picture and only c the I

regards

Corporation A attacks Corporation B's District at 1200 UTC, the Defender's Prime time is 1800 UTC, so, expecting an attack around 1200 they set their timers to 6 hours (with an associated cost). The first battle is a loss to Corporation B, and the second attack takes place at 1800 UTC.

Corporation B manages to drive the enemy off with a resurgent team, and restore the timer.

The next day, Corporation A launches another attack. This one drawing on another time zone team to strike at 0600 UTC. Corporation B still has their timer set for 6 hours, so the next attack now takes place at 1200 UTC... they lose the district in the second attack since they couldn't field a good enough team in time.