I will always talk about jets, the reason being if someone in CCP sees this if only as a distant thought I can influence some decision making.

How will they fly, what weapons will they use, or will air vehicles need a new set of turrets. These things need to be talked about so we don't have to go through months of tweaks to fix basic stuff. How fast should they be, how much shield and armor, and how will the ground be able to defend?

Side note.

I advocate for their to be pilot suits and heavies not being able to pilot or drive anything. I've been playing as a heavy recently and for everyone who says "heavies are to slow running" are a bunch of lairs. Yea, heavies are slow but they ant that slow and they have a crap tone of armor and shields. I think heavies should still be allowed to call shot gun, but them being able to roll up on u out of nowhere shouldn't be allowed.

It doesn't matter when we see them we still need to talk about them so the community has a some kind of census.

As to them being fragile and not doingf damge I think the opposite, they should be fragil but deal alot of damge.

I don't expect to see them until we have bigger maps. And we won't have bigger maps until we can have many more players in a battle. The PS3 can't handle 64+ players at once running on the current engine, so I don't expect to see these until we're on the PS4.

I will always talk about jets, the reason being if someone in CCP sees this if only as a distant thought I can influence some decision making.

How will they fly, what weapons will they use, or will air vehicles need a new set of turrets. These things need to be talked about so we don't have to go through months of tweaks to fix basic stuff. How fast should they be, how much shield and armor, and how will the ground be able to defend?

Side note.

I advocate for their to be pilot suits and heavies not being able to pilot or drive anything. I've been playing as a heavy recently and for everyone who says "heavies are to slow running" are a bunch of lairs. Yea, heavies are slow but they ant that slow and they have a crap tone of armor and shields. I think heavies should still be allowed to call shot gun, but them being able to roll up on u out of nowhere shouldn't be allowed.

It doesn't matter when we see them we still need to talk about them so the community has a some kind of census.

As to them being fragile and not doing damge I think the opposite, they should be fragil but deal alot of damge.

Also, unless the game changes drastically to alow, Dust dosen't need 64 plsyers. I'm tired of people saying, "the maps aren't big enough, oh we don't have enough players" I doesn't matter, maps aren't big enough decrease the speed on the jet and player count doesn't matter.

Yes, damage, but to who and what? The issue we have in the game right now is that most vehicles are too focused on taking out infantry rather than other vehicles. This is because of the way that map layouts are set and the little use vehicles have logistically. When mercs can easily move between objectives or only need vehicles for short duration then they only become important as killers.

Look at PC. Dropships only have logistic value for very brief time periods (say 15-30 seconds) to either quickly get into a central objective or to get to high ground. Once done, they serve little purpose. If jets become just another infantry killer then you will more complaining about balancing. They need to have a specific unique need which means that you need to give other vehicles other unique needs.

Tanks are ment to be sheilds for the infultry behind them, but people don't do that, CCp made them big sheilds with bigger guns. Jeeps are ment to carry people places, not contiuiesly try to run people over, and dropships are ment to farry people and either leave or provide air support after. A jet is a weapon designed to be out fitted for multiple situations and take out mutiple targets. Jets have a purpose, they kill vehicals and they kill infultry the same as every other vehical in game.

Jets are ment to be fast and deal good damge and get out. The problem isn't vehicals, the problem is the lay out of the game, sheild and armor takers and rep's. These things make fighting and killing vehicals irritating, in other games it takes skill to keep a spawed in vehical alive (in my opinion) you have to know were to go.

Have you never played Battlefield, Section 8, Starwars Battlefront, or Warhawk? Saying jets need a specific job makes no senses when they are meant to do many jobs:

Bommer, Air to air def/assault, info gathering like AWACS(Airborne early warning and control)

Jets have a role they can follow, just pick one.

So you're saying it doesn't take any skill in Dust?

Again, people say "vehicles" but all they really talk about is tanks.

Try flying an Assault Dropship and seeing if that qualifies as "easy mode".

Vehicle gameplay in Dust is so much better than those other games because they aren't all built as glass cannons unless you want them to be. Temporary imbalance doesn't meant that we need to gimp an entire set of playstyles.

So you're saying it doesn't take any skill in Dust?

Again, people say "vehicles" but all they really talk about is tanks.

Try flying an Assault Dropship and seeing if that qualifies as "easy mode".

Vehicle gameplay in Dust is so much better than those other games because they aren't all built as glass cannons unless you want them to be. Temporary imbalance doesn't meant that we need to gimp an entire set of playstyles.

I believe they are developing another game for jets to connect with dust and eve. It supports Ocular rift.

http://evevalkyrie.com/

That is CCP official site.

I believe they are developing another game for jets to connect with dust and eve. It supports Ocular rift.

http://evevalkyrie.com/

That is CCP official site.