DUST Search - Jets must talk about them

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

Shavan D wrote:

Canari Elphus wrote:

Shavan D wrote:

It doesn't matter when we see them we still need to talk about them so the community has a some kind of census.

As to them being fragile and not doingf damge I think the opposite, they should be fragil but deal alot of damge.

Yes, damage, but to who and what? The issue we have in the game right now is that most vehicles are too focused on taking out infantry rather than other vehicles. This is because of the way that map layouts are set and the little use vehicles have logistically. When mercs can easily move between objectives or only need vehicles for short duration then they only become important as killers.

Look at PC. Dropships only have logistic value for very brief time periods (say 15-30 seconds) to either quickly get into a central objective or to get to high ground. Once done, they serve little purpose. If jets become just another infantry killer then you will more complaining about balancing. They need to have a specific unique need which means that you need to give other vehicles other unique needs.

Tanks are ment to be sheilds for the infultry behind them, but people don't do that, CCp made them big sheilds with bigger guns. Jeeps are ment to carry people places, not contiuiesly try to run people over, and dropships are ment to farry people and either leave or provide air support after. A jet is a weapon designed to be out fitted for multiple situations and take out mutiple targets. Jets have a purpose, they kill vehicals and they kill infultry the same as every other vehical in game.

Jets are ment to be fast and deal good damge and get out. The problem isn't vehicals, the problem is the lay out of the game, sheild and armor takers and rep's. These things make fighting and killing vehicals irritating, in other games it takes skill to keep a spawed in vehical alive (in my opinion) you have to know were to go.

Have you never played Battlefield, Section 8, Starwars Battlefront, or Warhawk? Saying jets need a specific job makes no senses when they are meant to do many jobs:

Bommer, Air to air def/assault, info gathering like AWACS(Airborne early warning and control)

Jets have a role they can follow, just pick one.

So you're saying it doesn't take any skill in Dust?

Again, people say "vehicles" but all they really talk about is tanks.

Try flying an Assault Dropship and seeing if that qualifies as "easy mode".

Vehicle gameplay in Dust is so much better than those other games because they aren't all built as glass cannons unless you want them to be. Temporary imbalance doesn't meant that we need to gimp an entire set of playstyles.

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SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 32	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:12:00 - [1] - Quote Jets would be greatly appreciated but only once we have bigger maps. The ones we have right now are too small Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 32	Posted - 2014.03.30 05:16:00 - [2] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Shavan D wrote: Canari Elphus wrote: Shavan D wrote: It doesn't matter when we see them we still need to talk about them so the community has a some kind of census. As to them being fragile and not doingf damge I think the opposite, they should be fragil but deal alot of damge. Yes, damage, but to who and what? The issue we have in the game right now is that most vehicles are too focused on taking out infantry rather than other vehicles. This is because of the way that map layouts are set and the little use vehicles have logistically. When mercs can easily move between objectives or only need vehicles for short duration then they only become important as killers. Look at PC. Dropships only have logistic value for very brief time periods (say 15-30 seconds) to either quickly get into a central objective or to get to high ground. Once done, they serve little purpose. If jets become just another infantry killer then you will more complaining about balancing. They need to have a specific unique need which means that you need to give other vehicles other unique needs. Tanks are ment to be sheilds for the infultry behind them, but people don't do that, CCp made them big sheilds with bigger guns. Jeeps are ment to carry people places, not contiuiesly try to run people over, and dropships are ment to farry people and either leave or provide air support after. A jet is a weapon designed to be out fitted for multiple situations and take out mutiple targets. Jets have a purpose, they kill vehicals and they kill infultry the same as every other vehical in game. Jets are ment to be fast and deal good damge and get out. The problem isn't vehicals, the problem is the lay out of the game, sheild and armor takers and rep's. These things make fighting and killing vehicals irritating, in other games it takes skill to keep a spawed in vehical alive (in my opinion) you have to know were to go. Have you never played Battlefield, Section 8, Starwars Battlefront, or Warhawk? Saying jets need a specific job makes no senses when they are meant to do many jobs: Bommer, Air to air def/assault, info gathering like AWACS(Airborne early warning and control) Jets have a role they can follow, just pick one. So you're saying it doesn't take any skill in Dust? Again, people say "vehicles" but all they really talk about is tanks. Try flying an Assault Dropship and seeing if that qualifies as "easy mode". Vehicle gameplay in Dust is so much better than those other games because they aren't all built as glass cannons unless you want them to be. Temporary imbalance doesn't meant that we need to gimp an entire set of playstyles. Dropships are a pain in the ass to fly. And ones that are worth keeping in battle are expensive as balls. I took my SP out of dropships when the vehicle respec happened because I wasn't a good enough pilot for it to be worth me investing anymore. Favoring High Latency Is Sh*t