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Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4094	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:30:00 - [31] - Quote Wurm FOOD wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: It shard cause you're bending it outside of its role.....you are suppression and back up, not frontline slayer Was waiting on your post lol. How's the Commando Six? Are there more people or you guys went your separate ways? Also AGREED. I've been saying this for a while when everyone kept saying "lol commandos will be the best slayers all the time." Commandos don't have the same versatility as other suits being both heavy weight and restricted to offensive capabilities. Haha well there is still a few regulars (myself being one of them) but I don't think there has been a time when all 6 of us were on at the same time for awhile..... I'm going to be honest, I've been having fun with the cal scout and cloaks ^.^ I'm still here so I think it's just timezones That's my guess too, I see you quite a bit but it's usually when one of us is logging off We do need to get the commando 6 back together tho Fare well my commando's fist of god o7 Patron saint of commandos Ck.0-scout, commando // ak.0- logi (commando soonTM)
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 237	Posted - 2014.03.29 01:32:00 - [32] - Quote Calamando is my Sniper fit now. Doubled with the swarm launcher and I've been doing pretty well. I tried the Rail Rifles with it, but I just don't feel any sort of buff to them. Maybe need those last 2 levels, but I don't know. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3719	Posted - 2014.03.29 02:04:00 - [33] - Quote The extra HP is countered by the larger hitbox. So realistically you have the survivability of a medium frame with reduced effectiveness for tanking modules. It makes typical survival strategies a little counter intuitive, and it's for that reason that you'll get the best out them with flank & gank builds instead. No.
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4099	Posted - 2014.03.29 14:51:00 - [34] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: The extra HP is countered by the larger hitbox. So realistically you have the survivability of a medium frame with reduced effectiveness for tanking modules. It makes typical survival strategies a little counter intuitive, and it's for that reason that you'll get the best out them with flank & gank builds instead. Commando plus cloak :D Fare well my commando's fist of god o7 Patron saint of commandos Ck.0-scout, commando // ak.0- logi (commando soonTM)
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1980	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:07:00 - [35] - Quote I was using the LP Amarr commando for the event and I had fun running LR and ScR so I put one level into Min commando and so far I am finding it really fun running MD and CR. Its a good 3rd suit for me as well I have Gal logi for support, Gal scout for sneaky stuff and AV and Min commando for when I want more fire power and I am enjoying it immensely. CR is a great all rounder and the MD is fantastic against cloaked scouts. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
The Terminator T-1000 Skynet Incorporated 275	Posted - 2014.03.29 15:13:00 - [36] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Agree or disagree? I had hopes the commandos would be good viable suits without being OP, but I am not noticing my 2% per level damage bonus and I generally feel like I have to "work harder" for kills and to survive than I do in either my assault suits and definitely my scout suit. I'm not a very good player so maybe it is just me, but like so many other new thing this build I wonder what the pulse of the community on this is. Oh and by the way you all are welcome for my scrub self using cal commando almost exclusively the little I've played during this event. You all should split your ISK profits from killing me with me I always wondered if we even get those bonuses. There is really no way to check. We might be getting 1% instead of 2% as far as I am concerned....there is probably no bonus just placebo
waistr DEAD-MEN-WALKING 132	Posted - 2014.03.29 16:03:00 - [37] - Quote JP Acuna wrote: Pretty hard for me. Maybe i still need to adapt to the suit, but i've been ISK negative since i started using it. I lost over 5m only on wednesday because i had to stick to the ADV since the STD had no slots until thursday. Maybe i'm getting better now, i don't know, i just paused and started playing scout again. The commando makes me look like a complete nooooob. Agreed It does not work for my play style, I'm an old-dog and apparently I don't learn new tricks.
Skullmiser Vulcansu the third day Galactic Skyfleet Empire 75	Posted - 2014.03.29 16:31:00 - [38] - Quote I got the standard Amarr Comando for the event, I use the laser rifle and scrambler rifle, and I like to carry Allotek nanohives. If I find some cover, then I get lots of kills, and I can repair myself very well. I can do the same thing with my Logistics suit, though, and carry a Laser rifle and Ion Pistol, but the commando is probably better for when I am not in a squad. If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
Nothing Certain Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 379	Posted - 2014.03.29 16:40:00 - [39] - Quote I've only found a couple of fits with the commando suit that I think another suit won't do better. I have an MD/MD fit, because the big drawback on the MD is the number of shots, this doubles the time until reload. The other is Swarms/CR. I'm thinking of a Swarms/Swarms suit, I'd be completely defenseless but I could crank out a lot of shots. Tank spam isn't so bad so probably not. Because, that's why.
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1174	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:25:00 - [40] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: Calamando is my Sniper fit now. Doubled with the swarm launcher and I've been doing pretty well. I tried the Rail Rifles with it, but I just don't feel any sort of buff to them. Maybe need those last 2 levels, but I don't know. Love the phrase calamando, but I think I'm going to change it to Calmmando! I finally had a decent game with my Calmmando 8/0 with like 20 assists. I had teamed up with a friend who runs Gal sentinel Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.

Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 1174	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:26:00 - [41] - Quote The Terminator T-1000 wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: Agree or disagree? I had hopes the commandos would be good viable suits without being OP, but I am not noticing my 2% per level damage bonus and I generally feel like I have to "work harder" for kills and to survive than I do in either my assault suits and definitely my scout suit. I'm not a very good player so maybe it is just me, but like so many other new thing this build I wonder what the pulse of the community on this is. Oh and by the way you all are welcome for my scrub self using cal commando almost exclusively the little I've played during this event. You all should split your ISK profits from killing me with me I always wondered if we even get those bonuses. There is really no way to check. We might be getting 1% instead of 2% as far as I am concerned....there is probably no bonus just placebo I'm looking forward to seeing how the suit plays after more hotfixes for sure. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1572	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:27:00 - [42] - Quote DUST's Commandos Come with All their gifts Naturally... You get a few slots... Weapons... And Suit skill.. Everything else is the player learning and mastering DUST's competition... Awesome entry point for New players... Awesome end game for a Highly skilled player.
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 283	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:28:00 - [43] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: The amarr commando is definitely the best one if you go with any of them. I can't figure out a good fitting for my minmatar one though...just know that using a mass driver on that thing is suicide. I personally feel that the damage bonus isn't noticble enough. It should be more lik 15-25% at level 5, not 10%. I'm waiting for more hofixes before making a judgement on that. For all we know its not applying the 10% bonus, just like the game is not properly applying the amarr assault bonus or the minmatar assault bonus The bonus works... If you have problems with the MD on an Minnie Commando, than you either use the scrub MD (AssaultMD) which has mostly splash damage, or you are just bad at aiming. This suit is an MD users dream!
KryptixX Imperfects Negative-Feedback 453	Posted - 2014.03.29 20:26:00 - [44] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: The extra HP is countered by the larger hitbox. So realistically you have the survivability of a medium frame with reduced effectiveness for tanking modules. It makes typical survival strategies a little counter intuitive, and it's for that reason that you'll get the best out them with flank & gank builds instead. Commando plus cloak :D This actually works pretty well.
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2232	Posted - 2014.03.30 07:54:00 - [45] - Quote da GAND wrote: Bit more difficult to get around in a commando suit for sure, but I'm doing alright in my Minmatar commando suit with the mass driver + combat rifle combo. yes this is my build as well, I love it. Also fun Assault mass driver/Breach mass driver.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 256	Posted - 2014.03.30 08:03:00 - [46] - Quote I run gallente commando and I'm killing. Killing and not dying often. I have a plethora of light weapons proto and equipment to fall back on, making it possible to run a variety of fittings in most engagements. Albeit May not be the best fit for EVERY situation, it's darn good for most. Long range? I got tactical rifles, combat rifles, and even snipers. Cqc? Got shotties and acr, got swarms and the plc for those pesky vehicles. I have hives, needles, uplinks, rep tools mines and even a stupid clack. It's the true omni soldiers dream. I only run advanced and I have around 1k hp. True all my core skills are maxed, and my fitting modules are well rounded, maybe it's just good to me because of that.. Tl;dr I love my GalCom. Balling.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 256	Posted - 2014.03.30 08:07:00 - [47] - Quote Also knowing how to move and when/where is a bonus. I apply scout science to most all of my suits even my heavy. I HAVE slot of tank but am not always trying to use it. And then there's the inevitable, just getting waxed no matter what suit you run.
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 967	Posted - 2014.03.30 08:52:00 - [48] - Quote I'm used to 700Hp being near my top Hp(minassault) so having 200 shield go to armor isn't that big of a deal. Currently i'm set up for damage and regen with 2 dmg mods(1 if it's a CQC oriented one, with a recharger) Enhanced armor rep, cardiac or shield reg. I refuse to gve honor to your 'god' so therefore i dual tank. Also i feel itchy. Anybody got a tube of Rust-It?
nelo kazuma Da Short Buss Driving School 10	Posted - 2014.03.30 09:15:00 - [49] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Agree or disagree? I had hopes the commandos would be good viable suits without being OP, but I am not noticing my 2% per level damage bonus and I generally feel like I have to "work harder" for kills and to survive than I do in either my assault suits and definitely my scout suit. I'm not a very good player so maybe it is just me, but like so many other new thing this build I wonder what the pulse of the community on this is. Oh and by the way you all are welcome for my scrub self using cal commando almost exclusively the little I've played during this event. You all should split your ISK profits from killing me with me With the cal commando its slightly the weakest but fastest of em get ur shield reg and recharg up cuz those are more usefull in my opinion plus direct battle ill advised rail sniper or splash weap good for it plus its an in and out battle suit so not meant to tank damage but can deal so probably just need to adjust how you play a lil bit. Shield char are meant for strategic combat and less just charge in and get shot but for skilled gunners this suit is awesome hang in there and eventually itll help you improve your play style Return of the caldari is here ^(- .-)
Mordecai Sanguine What The French Red Whines. 540	Posted - 2014.03.30 10:48:00 - [50] - Quote Awesome Pantaloons wrote: Definitely not hard mode. I've been using advanced Amarr with Elm and CRD-9. That thing is a beast. lol The others are pretty awesome too. Commandos definitely got love this patch. Me too. But then you're against a Gallente suit with 600/900 ehp in armor and you have 20% penality on it + No more proficiencies..... Trying to kill something with 20% penality while you have an Overheat factor, damn hard. I just realize than Amarr weapons are the only one to deal with this kind of **** (exept mass driver / flaylocks). Time to change Minmatarr damage profile

Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 257	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:18:00 - [51] - Quote Mordecai Sanguine wrote: Awesome Pantaloons wrote: Definitely not hard mode. I've been using advanced Amarr with Elm and CRD-9. That thing is a beast. lol The others are pretty awesome too. Commandos definitely got love this patch. Me too. But then you're against a Gallente suit with 600/900 ehp in armor and you have 20% penality on it + No more proficiencies..... Trying to kill something with 20% penality while you have an Overheat factor, damn hard. I just realize than Amarr weapons are the only one to deal with this kind of **** (exept mass driver / flaylocks). Time to change Minmatarr damage profile Factor in the +15% proficiency bonus to shields and the +10% all around damage buff for commandos and its not as bad as you make it sound....
Jakar Umbra Altyr Initiative 565	Posted - 2014.03.30 11:20:00 - [52] - Quote I'm living under a rock again and playing a totally different game. My Commando seems fine to me and I use the one with the least health in the game. Author of Umbra's Short Stories Boundless Creations Shareholder.
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2764	Posted - 2014.03.31 01:21:00 - [53] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: I-Shayz-I wrote: The amarr commando is definitely the best one if you go with any of them. I can't figure out a good fitting for my minmatar one though...just know that using a mass driver on that thing is suicide. I personally feel that the damage bonus isn't noticble enough. It should be more lik 15-25% at level 5, not 10%. I'm waiting for more hofixes before making a judgement on that. For all we know its not applying the 10% bonus, just like the game is not properly applying the amarr assault bonus or the minmatar assault bonus I already tested it, and it is applying the bonus. It's the fact that an extra 10% bonus doesn't give you the same kind of extra damage output as two complex damage mods did in 1.7 I want commandos to feel scary and dangerous, not laughable. Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!
1pawn dust Algintal Core Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2014.03.31 12:10:00 - [54] - Quote I would agree its hard mode, for the sake of 2 light weapons and an ill fitting suit name you need to deal with - big hit box - crap mobility - crap ehp (especially since heavy suit -_-) - low slot count - bad suit bonus I run a caldari commando, to run it as a true commando i need to fire a complex cardiac regulator in the low and i rock the specialist RR and Wyrm. The RR is great with the bonus, but the whole deal with battlefield adaptability goes out of the window, no bonus for Wyrms, (the minnie gets that and a CR lolwtfhax) and thus, for a RR with a pre 1.8 dmg mod I get a slow assault suit with around 800 eHP, full proto fit so the isk and LP cost is high and really its only my gun game that stops it from being a Silver Magnate cruising the drone regions. To think I could have went scout or slayer logi, oh how I curse myself.
al nize mk2 DUST University Ivy League 54	Posted - 2014.03.31 13:03:00 - [55] - Quote I tried commando because I liked the sound of it - 2 light weapons more armour - but I founf the lack of pace was getting me killed more. Personally I need the pace. GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥


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