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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:02:00 -
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Agree or disagree?
I had hopes the commandos would be good viable suits without being OP, but I am not noticing my 2% per level damage bonus and I generally feel like I have to "work harder" for kills and to survive than I do in either my assault suits and definitely my scout suit.
I'm not a very good player so maybe it is just me, but like so many other new thing this build I wonder what the pulse of the community on this is.
Oh and by the way you all are welcome for my scrub self using cal commando almost exclusively the little I've played during this event. You all should split your ISK profits from killing me with me
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization
2231
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:04:00 -
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the 10% damage buff is amazing now that less things give you damage buffs |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7822
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:05:00 -
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I've been doing well with the commando since Uprising 1.2 and my performance only went up with 1.8. I wouldn't say it's hard mode, just probably not the best role for you personally. Either that or you need to keep working at it and learn how to maximize your strengths and minimize your weaknesses.
Amarr Victor
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
2253
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:06:00 -
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They feel pretty squishy for how slow they are.
For the Federation!
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
1159
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:12:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I've been doing well with the commando since Uprising 1.2 and my performance only went up with 1.8. I wouldn't say it's hard mode, just probably not the best role for you personally. Either that or you need to keep working at it and learn how to maximize your strengths and minimize your weaknesses.
I'm definitely not giving up and its not like I am doing terrible either, I'm going positive with my adv. cal commandos, just not doing as well as in my other suits (gal logi excluded because I haven't used it since Tuesday).
You are probably right I gotta adjust my playstyle with that suit. They are definitely squishy though. Assault health, logi speed, with sentinel profile and hit box.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
1032
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:24:00 -
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Commando is great
You just have to remember your support and not front line
Real hard more is still Min Scout - eWar scout with no bonuses to eWar
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4091
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:40:00 -
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It shard cause you're bending it outside of its role.....you are suppression and back up, not frontline slayer
Fare well my commando's fist of god o7
Patron saint of commandos
Ck.0-scout, commando // ak.0- logi (commando soonTM)
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
5401
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:42:00 -
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I love my Commando
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
1163
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:45:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:It shard cause you're bending it outside of its role.....you are suppression and back up, not frontline slayer
You are most likely right. I fit my comando with RR and ARR and all too often I am going in there with my ARR like I would with an assault but without the speed to get in gank a clone or 2 and grab some cover. And my commando has about the same exact EHP as my Amarr assaults
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Patrick57
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
6277
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:47:00 -
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I think the bonus is really good for any weapon, since the damage of every rifle was nerfed.
They'd be even better if they weren't so slow. |
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Emperor1349
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
56
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:50:00 -
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I find it harder to survive being so slow, use to that minmatar assault speed and jumping over rails to avoid fighting 2 or more at at once. But I'm using a min commando now with a Cr and Md, its fun to use, but I still say the lack of modules kill the suit, just like before. Also a grenade slot are you kidding me even the medic suit has grenades :)
If you have a poor gun game no proto suit can help you.
If you have a good gun game no proto suit is needed.
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1538
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:51:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:It shard cause you're bending it outside of its role.....you are suppression and back up, not frontline slayer
Was waiting on your post lol. How's the Commando Six? Are there more people or you guys went your separate ways?
Also AGREED. I've been saying this for a while when everyone kept saying "lol commandos will be the best slayers all the time." Commandos don't have the same versatility as other suits being both heavy weight and restricted to offensive capabilities.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
608
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:52:00 -
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Bit more difficult to get around in a commando suit for sure, but I'm doing alright in my Minmatar commando suit with the mass driver + combat rifle combo.
Don't nerf heavies, instead do This
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
765
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:53:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:They feel pretty squishy for how slow they are. Go use a lvl 5 can sent and then beg for a respec, its ****
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
815
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:54:00 -
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Skilled into gal command to level one for the event, threw on a AR/LR combo and was greatly impressed. Next thing I know I dumped my logi suit SP into em. Was waiting to see the changes they made to medium suits before spending it but I'll be able to save it back up by that time anyway.
CCP you better nail 1.8, as it stands 1.7 is a total disaster.
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Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
513
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:54:00 -
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Dat Caldari Commando with a Thale's
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/337/2617
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Emperor1349
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
56
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Posted - 2014.03.28 21:58:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:It shard cause you're bending it outside of its role.....you are suppression and back up, not frontline slayer You are most likely right. I fit my comando with RR and ARR and all too often I am going in there with my ARR like I would with an assault but without the speed to get in gank a clone or 2 and grab some cover. And my commando has about the same exact EHP as my Amarr assaults
From what I hear the amarr scout can have more HP than the assault, ouch commandos getting boned.
If you have a poor gun game no proto suit can help you.
If you have a good gun game no proto suit is needed.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
1165
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:00:00 -
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I did start putting SP in sniper rifles to go with my commando. I figure if I can't get the hang of using my dual rail combo I'll have a back up use for a suit I put a lot of SP into
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
1887
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:00:00 -
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I've been having fun with my M/1 Heavy Assault (aka Commando).
I haven't been doing too terrible with it either, most of the matches that I have used it primarily, I have been 1.80+ KD. I run it basically the same way that I ran the M/1 Assault pre-1.8 (I haven't used the Assault since 1.8 released).
Isk positive too.
Why are people surprised when I pick them up with a Wiyrkomi on my Heavy Assault?
Arzadu Akbar Motherfuckers!!!!
Closed Beta Bittervet Bomber
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Awesome Pantaloons
Lokapalas.
393
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:00:00 -
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Definitely not hard mode. I've been using advanced Amarr with Elm and CRD-9. That thing is a beast. lol The others are pretty awesome too. Commandos definitely got love this patch.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
-The Code of Demeanor
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Ace Boone
G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
61
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:03:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Commando is great
You just have to remember your support and not front line
Real hard more is still Min Scout - eWar scout with no bonuses to eWar
If you brick tank minmitar mk.0s, they're insanely fast assaults. It's not really hard mode with a combat rifle and tactics.
2x profile damps, 1x complex ferroscale, 3 complex shield extenders should do the trick with a shotgun.
meh.
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Tupni
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
78
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:05:00 -
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A little more HP than most (sometimes), less customization in modules, a larger, slower target with all the disadvantages of a heavy but less HP, two light weapons, whatever those bonuses are supposed to be that I think I read aren't actually taking effect yet....
Leaning toward hard mode.
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:09:00 -
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The amarr commando is definitely the best one if you go with any of them.
I can't figure out a good fitting for my minmatar one though...just know that using a mass driver on that thing is suicide.
I personally feel that the damage bonus isn't noticble enough. It should be more lik 15-25% at level 5, not 10%.
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Dimmu Borgir II
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
273
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:17:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I love my Commando
And your Commando loves you hehe
Blue is good, red is bad, orange you glad you're not red?
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
1170
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:21:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:The amarr commando is definitely the best one if you go with any of them.
I can't figure out a good fitting for my minmatar one though...just know that using a mass driver on that thing is suicide.
I personally feel that the damage bonus isn't noticble enough. It should be more lik 15-25% at level 5, not 10%.
I'm waiting for more hofixes before making a judgement on that. For all we know its not applying the 10% bonus, just like the game is not properly applying the amarr assault bonus or the minmatar assault bonus
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
4092
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:28:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:It shard cause you're bending it outside of its role.....you are suppression and back up, not frontline slayer Was waiting on your post lol. How's the Commando Six? Are there more people or you guys went your separate ways? Also AGREED. I've been saying this for a while when everyone kept saying "lol commandos will be the best slayers all the time." Commandos don't have the same versatility as other suits being both heavy weight and restricted to offensive capabilities. Haha well there is still a few regulars (myself being one of them) but I don't think there has been a time when all 6 of us were on at the same time for awhile.....
I'm going to be honest, I've been having fun with the cal scout and cloaks ^.^
Fare well my commando's fist of god o7
Patron saint of commandos
Ck.0-scout, commando // ak.0- logi (commando soonTM)
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BrownEye1129
Death In Xcess Corporation
230
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:33:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:They feel pretty squishy for how slow they are. Go use a lvl 5 can sent and then beg for a respec, its ****
Can? Caldari?.......1 sec shield recharge delay is ****?
LOL "Easy Mode" Logi QQ
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JP Acuna
Pendejitos Canis Eliminatus Operatives
103
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Posted - 2014.03.28 22:34:00 -
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Pretty hard for me. Maybe i still need to adapt to the suit, but i've been ISK negative since i started using it. I lost over 5m only on wednesday because i had to stick to the ADV since the STD had no slots until thursday. Maybe i'm getting better now, i don't know, i just paused and started playing scout again.
The commando makes me look like a complete nooooob. |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
1035
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:11:00 -
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Ace Boone wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Commando is great
You just have to remember your support and not front line
Real hard more is still Min Scout - eWar scout with no bonuses to eWar If you brick tank minmitar mk.0s, they're insanely fast assaults. It's not really hard mode with a combat rifle and tactics. 2x profile damps, 1x complex ferroscale, 3 complex shield extenders should do the trick with a shotgun. Fuckin hate shotguns
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Wurm FOOD
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
112
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Posted - 2014.03.29 01:25:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Roy Ventus wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote:It shard cause you're bending it outside of its role.....you are suppression and back up, not frontline slayer Was waiting on your post lol. How's the Commando Six? Are there more people or you guys went your separate ways? Also AGREED. I've been saying this for a while when everyone kept saying "lol commandos will be the best slayers all the time." Commandos don't have the same versatility as other suits being both heavy weight and restricted to offensive capabilities. Haha well there is still a few regulars (myself being one of them) but I don't think there has been a time when all 6 of us were on at the same time for awhile..... I'm going to be honest, I've been having fun with the cal scout and cloaks ^.^ I'm still here so I think it's just timezones
All hail the Commando ak.0
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