Yeah this is a rage rant. If you don't like it read a different thread. Where the hell do I begin.... First off it throws you into the thick of it with almost ZERO explanation on dropsuits, weapons, fittings, corporations, skill leveling, and BASIC game mechanics, and then after the pathetic 5 second tutorial it has the nerve to say "You're ready! Go get em' tiger!" Lol what a laughable joke. If you're new, expect to create multiple characters before you figure out your crack from a hole in the wall.

Once your pathetic excuse for a tutorial is done and you play all of like 3 matches with fellow noobs, you get dumped in matches with people with gear that's 100 times better than yours. You'll be all optimistic at first until these jackals wipe the pretty smile off your face; at which time you'll find yourself attempting (in vain) to pump all your rounds into a guy who'll just turn around drop you in 2 seconds flat. And why is that? Because there is NO skill level segregation. So after you've blown all your measly starting SP you'll realize that you blew it all on that awesome gun you wanted, only to realize you leveled up Light instead of Heavy and you need the appropriate dropsuit to buy it. Ok so I'll just level that one right? Wrong, you just blew all your SP on the wrong things, so good luck building that back up anytime this decade....and you need to consider CPU and PG. Just wait and see how much fun you have trying to create a fitting every time it gets stuffed in your face that you don't have enough CPU or PG. And then you'll just have a blast opening THAT can of worms because remember that cool gun you wantes to use? Well just forget that for a while because the Devs thought dropsuit leveling was SO much fun that they decided to make TWO DIFFERENT SKILL TREES FOR IT. Gimme a freakin break. And you know what makes it even more frustrating?? THEY DON'T TELL YOU JACK. AND THEY NICKEL AND DIME YOU WITH SP TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S DOWNRIGHT INSULTING. So unless you have a stinkload of money to spend, just expect to get rectum raped over and over while it takes you a year just to get a few mediocre guns at best. While the paid players dance over your corpse. Players need to be separated by skill level. And hey, here's a message to the Devs.... Why not actually REWARD the people who spend so much time playing your games instead of insulting them with a lousy 3,000 SP per fight. It's a freakin joke. And why is everyone so afraid to rant? Stop being so politically correct and just say what bothers you and maybe you'll actually see some of the changes you wanna see in the games you play. Y'all act like a bunch of baby blue boyscouts on here like "GEE WHIZ this game troubles me something awful!" when you know damn well you're throwing your damn controllers in a fit of rage 4 times a day. So freakin fake. That's all I got. Peace.

Yeah this is a rage rant. If you don't like it read a different thread. Where the hell do I begin.... First off it throws you into the thick of it with almost ZERO explanation on dropsuits, weapons, fittings, corporations, skill leveling, and BASIC game mechanics, and then after the pathetic 5 second tutorial it has the nerve to say "You're ready! Go get em' tiger!" Lol what a laughable joke. If you're new, expect to create multiple characters before you figure out your crack from a hole in the wall.

Once your pathetic excuse for a tutorial is done and you play all of like 3 matches with fellow noobs, you get dumped in matches with people with gear that's 100 times better than yours. You'll be all optimistic at first until these jackals wipe the pretty smile off your face; at which time you'll find yourself attempting (in vain) to pump all your rounds into a guy who'll just turn around drop you in 2 seconds flat. And why is that? Because there is NO skill level segregation. So after you've blown all your measly starting SP you'll realize that you blew it all on that awesome gun you wanted, only to realize you leveled up Light instead of Heavy and you need the appropriate dropsuit to use it. Ok so I'll just level that one right? Wrong, you just blew all your SP on the wrong things, so good luck building that back up anytime this decade....and you need to consider CPU and PG. Just wait and see how much fun you have trying to create a fitting every time it gets stuffed in your face that you don't have enough CPU or PG. And then you'll just have a blast opening THAT can of worms because remember that cool gun you wantes to use? Well just forget that for a while because the Devs thought dropsuit leveling was SO much fun that they decided to make TWO DIFFERENT SKILL TREES FOR IT. Gimme a freakin break. And you know what makes it even more frustrating?? THEY DON'T TELL YOU JACK. AND THEY NICKEL AND DIME YOU WITH SP TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S DOWNRIGHT INSULTING. So unless you have a stinkload of money to spend, just expect to get rectum raped over and over while it takes you a year just to get a few mediocre guns at best. While the paid players dance over your corpse. Players need to be separated by skill level. And hey, here's a message to the Devs.... Why not actually REWARD the people who spend so much time playing your games instead of insulting them with a lousy 3,000 SP per fight. It's a freakin joke. And why is everyone so afraid to rant? Stop being so politically correct and just say what bothers you and maybe you'll actually see some of the changes you wanna see in the games you play. Y'all act like a bunch of baby blue boyscouts on here like "GEE WHIZ this game troubles me something awful!" when you know damn well you're throwing your damn controllers in a fit of rage 4 times a day. So freakin fake. That's all I got. Peace.

Apply to "Nyain Chan" Corporation, tell them you are new in the application mail. We will do everything we can to help you understand and enjoy this game. bear in mind nyain is mainly japanese, but a lot of us are english / american speaking players too.

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Play academy games and skill into something new every time, send the left over isk to your main guy, delete all characters except the main with the boosters and repeat.

I think CCP likes having very bad NPE because it encourages players to make bad SP investments, thus increasing the amount of grind they need / encouraging them to purchase boosters to make up for lost time.

HTFU.

I was a noob almost 2 years ago, now I'm stomping noobs.

Yeah this is a rage rant. If you don't like it read a different thread. Where the hell do I begin.... First off it throws you into the thick of it with almost ZERO explanation on dropsuits, weapons, fittings, corporations, skill leveling, and BASIC game mechanics, and then after the pathetic 5 second tutorial it has the nerve to say "You're ready! Go get em' tiger!" Lol what a laughable joke. If you're new, expect to create multiple characters before you figure out your crack from a hole in the wall.

Once your pathetic excuse for a tutorial is done and you play all of like 3 matches with fellow noobs, you get dumped in matches with people with gear that's 100 times better than yours. You'll be all optimistic at first until these jackals wipe the pretty smile off your face; at which time you'll find yourself attempting (in vain) to pump all your rounds into a guy who'll just turn around drop you in 2 seconds flat. And why is that? Because there is NO skill level segregation. So after you've blown all your measly starting SP you'll realize that you blew it all on that awesome gun you wanted, only to realize you leveled up Light instead of Heavy and you need the appropriate dropsuit to use it. Ok so I'll just level that one right? Wrong, you just blew all your SP on the wrong things, so good luck building that back up anytime this decade....and you need to consider CPU and PG. Just wait and see how much fun you have trying to create a fitting every time it gets stuffed in your face that you don't have enough CPU or PG. And then you'll just have a blast opening THAT can of worms because remember that cool gun you wantes to use? Well just forget that for a while because the Devs thought dropsuit leveling was SO much fun that they decided to make TWO DIFFERENT SKILL TREES FOR IT. Gimme a freakin break. And you know what makes it even more frustrating?? THEY DON'T TELL YOU JACK. AND THEY NICKEL AND DIME YOU WITH SP TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S DOWNRIGHT INSULTING. So unless you have a stinkload of money to spend, just expect to get rectum raped over and over while it takes you a year just to get a few mediocre guns at best. While the paid players dance over your corpse. Players need to be separated by skill level. And hey, here's a message to the Devs.... Why not actually REWARD the people who spend so much time playing your games instead of insulting them with a lousy 3,000 SP per fight. It's a freakin joke. And why is everyone so afraid to rant? Stop being so politically correct and just say what bothers you and maybe you'll actually see some of the changes you wanna see in the games you play. Y'all act like a bunch of baby blue boyscouts on here like "GEE WHIZ this game troubles me something awful!" when you know damn well you're throwing your damn controllers in a fit of rage 4 times a day. So freakin fake. That's all I got. Peace.

Yeah this is a rage rant. If you don't like it read a different thread. Where the hell do I begin.... First off it throws you into the thick of it with almost ZERO explanation on dropsuits, weapons, fittings, corporations, skill leveling, and BASIC game mechanics, and then after the pathetic 5 second tutorial it has the nerve to say "You're ready! Go get em' tiger!" Lol what a laughable joke. If you're new, expect to create multiple characters before you figure out your crack from a hole in the wall.

Once your pathetic excuse for a tutorial is done and you play all of like 3 matches with fellow noobs, you get dumped in matches with people with gear that's 100 times better than yours. You'll be all optimistic at first until these jackals wipe the pretty smile off your face; at which time you'll find yourself attempting (in vain) to pump all your rounds into a guy who'll just turn around drop you in 2 seconds flat. And why is that? Because there is NO skill level segregation. So after you've blown all your measly starting SP you'll realize that you blew it all on that awesome gun you wanted, only to realize you leveled up Light instead of Heavy and you need the appropriate dropsuit to use it. Ok so I'll just level that one right? Wrong, you just blew all your SP on the wrong things, so good luck building that back up anytime this decade....and you need to consider CPU and PG. Just wait and see how much fun you have trying to create a fitting every time it gets stuffed in your face that you don't have enough CPU or PG. And then you'll just have a blast opening THAT can of worms because remember that cool gun you wantes to use? Well just forget that for a while because the Devs thought dropsuit leveling was SO much fun that they decided to make TWO DIFFERENT SKILL TREES FOR IT. Gimme a freakin break. And you know what makes it even more frustrating?? THEY DON'T TELL YOU JACK. AND THEY NICKEL AND DIME YOU WITH SP TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S DOWNRIGHT INSULTING. So unless you have a stinkload of money to spend, just expect to get rectum raped over and over while it takes you a year just to get a few mediocre guns at best. While the paid players dance over your corpse. Players need to be separated by skill level. And hey, here's a message to the Devs.... Why not actually REWARD the people who spend so much time playing your games instead of insulting them with a lousy 3,000 SP per fight. It's a freakin joke. And why is everyone so afraid to rant? Stop being so politically correct and just say what bothers you and maybe you'll actually see some of the changes you wanna see in the games you play. Y'all act like a bunch of baby blue boyscouts on here like "GEE WHIZ this game troubles me something awful!" when you know damn well you're throwing your damn controllers in a fit of rage 4 times a day. So freakin fake. That's all I got. Peace.

Yeah this is a rage rant. If you don't like it read a different thread. Where the hell do I begin.... First off it throws you into the thick of it with almost ZERO explanation on dropsuits, weapons, fittings, corporations, skill leveling, and BASIC game mechanics, and then after the pathetic 5 second tutorial it has the nerve to say "You're ready! Go get em' tiger!" Lol what a laughable joke. If you're new, expect to create multiple characters before you figure out your crack from a hole in the wall.

Once your pathetic excuse for a tutorial is done and you play all of like 3 matches with fellow noobs, you get dumped in matches with people with gear that's 100 times better than yours. You'll be all optimistic at first until these jackals wipe the pretty smile off your face; at which time you'll find yourself attempting (in vain) to pump all your rounds into a guy who'll just turn around drop you in 2 seconds flat. And why is that? Because there is NO skill level segregation.

So after you've blown all your measly starting SP you'll realize that you blew it all on that awesome gun you wanted, only to realize you leveled up Light instead of Heavy and you need the appropriate dropsuit to use it. Ok so I'll just level that one right? Wrong, you just blew all your SP on the wrong things, so good luck building that back up anytime this decade....and you need to consider CPU and PG. Just wait and see how much fun you have trying to create a fitting every time it gets stuffed in your face that you don't have enough CPU or PG.

And then you'll just have a blast opening THAT can of worms because remember that cool gun you wantes to use? Well just forget that for a while because the Devs thought dropsuit leveling was SO much fun that they decided to make TWO DIFFERENT SKILL TREES FOR IT. Gimme a freakin break.

And you know what makes it even more frustrating?? THEY DON'T TELL YOU JACK. AND THEY NICKEL AND DIME YOU WITH SP TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S DOWNRIGHT INSULTING. So unless you have a stinkload of money to spend, just expect to get rectum raped over and over while it takes you a year just to get a few mediocre guns at best. While the paid players dance over your corpse. Players need to be separated by skill level.

And hey, here's a message to the Devs.... Why not actually REWARD the people who spend so much time playing your games instead of insulting them with a lousy 3,000 SP per fight. It's a freakin joke. And why is everyone so afraid to rant? Stop being so politically correct and just say what bothers you and maybe you'll actually see some of the changes you wanna see in the games you play.

Y'all act like a bunch of baby blue boyscouts on here like "GEE WHIZ this game troubles me something awful!" when you know damn well you're throwing your damn controllers in a fit of rage 4 times a day. So freakin fake. That's all I got. Peace.

The shame of it is, I had to get all this info from you guys and not the devs who made the damn game. I agree with SP reallocation. We should be able to RESPEC. Thanks to everyone who gave good tips and advice. Hope the devs see this and finally do something cuz they're dropping the ball here. If anyone wants to add me I'll be glad to stand there noobishly and... maybe be a human shield idk. Don't expect much. I need a beer.

Yeah this is a rage rant. If you don't like it read a different thread. Where the hell do I begin.... First off it throws you into the thick of it with almost ZERO explanation on dropsuits, weapons, fittings, corporations, skill leveling, and BASIC game mechanics, and then after the pathetic 5 second tutorial it has the nerve to say "You're ready! Go get em' tiger!" Lol what a laughable joke. If you're new, expect to create multiple characters before you figure out your crack from a hole in the wall.

Once your pathetic excuse for a tutorial is done and you play all of like 3 matches with fellow noobs, you get dumped in matches with people with gear that's 100 times better than yours. You'll be all optimistic at first until these jackals wipe the pretty smile off your face; at which time you'll find yourself attempting (in vain) to pump all your rounds into a guy who'll just turn around drop you in 2 seconds flat. And why is that? Because there is NO skill level segregation. So after you've blown all your measly starting SP you'll realize that you blew it all on that awesome gun you wanted, only to realize you leveled up Light instead of Heavy and you need the appropriate dropsuit to use it. Ok so I'll just level that one right? Wrong, you just blew all your SP on the wrong things, so good luck building that back up anytime this decade....and you need to consider CPU and PG. Just wait and see how much fun you have trying to create a fitting every time it gets stuffed in your face that you don't have enough CPU or PG. And then you'll just have a blast opening THAT can of worms because remember that cool gun you wantes to use? Well just forget that for a while because the Devs thought dropsuit leveling was SO much fun that they decided to make TWO DIFFERENT SKILL TREES FOR IT. Gimme a freakin break. And you know what makes it even more frustrating?? THEY DON'T TELL YOU JACK. AND THEY NICKEL AND DIME YOU WITH SP TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S DOWNRIGHT INSULTING. So unless you have a stinkload of money to spend, just expect to get rectum raped over and over while it takes you a year just to get a few mediocre guns at best. While the paid players dance over your corpse. Players need to be separated by skill level. And hey, here's a message to the Devs.... Why not actually REWARD the people who spend so much time playing your games instead of insulting them with a lousy 3,000 SP per fight. It's a freakin joke. And why is everyone so afraid to rant? Stop being so politically correct and just say what bothers you and maybe you'll actually see some of the changes you wanna see in the games you play. Y'all act like a bunch of baby blue boyscouts on here like "GEE WHIZ this game troubles me something awful!" when you know damn well you're throwing your damn controllers in a fit of rage 4 times a day. So freakin fake. That's all I got. Peace.

This should make the OP easier to read.

One thing could improve noobie experience more than anything else...
But I ain't telling.

And why is everyone so afraid to rant? Stop being so politically correct and just say what bothers you and maybe you'll actually see some of the changes you wanna see in the games you play. Y'all act like a bunch of baby blue boyscouts on here like "GEE WHIZ this game troubles me something awful!"

Come on, please tell. I will pay 1 MILLION isk.
I need all the help I can get.

Love how people play this game and act like they have never played another game before. Lol if you want to blow you SP b4 you read the descriptions and figure out how you want to build you character that is you own fault. Why does someone need to hold your hand and explain that the L is your wepons slot is for a light weapon. Pretty self explanatory if you ask me.

you must be new here, this happens more often than you think.

Not everyone who has a lot of sp paid hundreds to get them. I only spent 40 bucks on dust but I wanted to support CCP and the vision and I got some stuff for it so cool. I have just been playing for longer so I understand the game and have some skills. Let me tell you though, when I first started it wasn't a picknick. I died quite a bit in my free starter suits, but I didn't care cause I was having fun, making money and learning to fly.

There should be a message that says, "take some time to familiarize yourself with some suits and weapons in the milita gear section" followed by "READ SCRUB, READ!"

Anyway I'd say dust is anti dumb noob, you know the ones who don't read or figure stuff out or ask for help or are patient or who look for things etc.

Another scrubby thing to say too. You're scrubby assuming that putting in skill points into something that isn't later changed dramatically by CCP precludes the whole "READ SCRUB, READ". That's where you fail in your argument. LIkewise its called player gaps; the earlier you start and actively play the more difficult it is for any player to catch up. After 18 months of play your logic also fails for those who are at the 45mil SP range right now; they can cap out their suits and augments for it and weapons and sure you can say "i'm going to carefully plan my SP" but that's also assuming CCP doesn't actually make changes to it that make it worse off than before.

Not sure if you've noticed but it's not exactly a favorite thing for players to allocate and plan builds and enhance their character when you're not sure if CCP has even settled down yet on hotfixes. And dying a lot to learn something also fails logically speaking in this game; I've seen vets go 30+ to 1 on their KDR with new players going 3:20+ and unless they dedicated dozens of hours more, their skillpoints aren't going to catch up in a meaningful manner without actually getting boosters and playing dozens of hours longer.

There's a reason why Dust has so many problems and it's not because of new players but because it's really optimal mostly for players who've played yearlong and have that headstart. And if legion is allowing a meaningful transit of skills or resources from Dust, then Legion is still going to fall into the same mousetrap unless CCP has devised a significantly superior AI for matchmaking.

Oi china called, they want their wall back.

Oi china called, they want their wall back.

I think CCP likes having very bad NPE because it encourages players to make bad SP investments, thus increasing the amount of grind they need / encouraging them to purchase boosters to make up for lost time.