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Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2075	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:38:00 - [1] - Quote Pick one: 1. Cooldown after deactivation 2. Offensive use capibilities delayed after deactivation 3. Decrease in uptime Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 695	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:38:00 - [2] - Quote There's nothing to fix. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2075	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:40:00 - [3] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: There's nothing to fix. So its perfectly ok to unload a shotgun and recloak before the previous uncloaking animation has finished? Scrub. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1220	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:42:00 - [4] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Vespasian Andendare wrote: There's nothing to fix. So its perfectly ok to unload a shotgun and recloak before the previous uncloaking animation has finished? Scrub. Fix the animation Cloak is fine Scrub
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2075	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:43:00 - [5] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Vespasian Andendare wrote: There's nothing to fix. So its perfectly ok to unload a shotgun and recloak before the previous uncloaking animation has finished? Scrub. Fix the animation Cloak is fine Scrub Ah, the scrubbiest scrub is here to defend his crutch. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
darkiller240 WarRavens League of Infamy 649	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:43:00 - [6] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: There's nothing to fix. Yes slow walking or crouching shows as running on the visual meter on cloaks That needs fixing "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 651	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:46:00 - [7] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Pick one: 1. Cooldown after deactivation ~~2. Offensive use capibilities delayed after deactivation~~ 3. Decrease in uptime 1 or 3 but not both. Mad Bomber - 50% less profile Return dumbfire to Swarms
Ivy Zalinto Bobbit's Hangmen 348	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:46:00 - [8] - Quote Nothing wrong with cloaks. Just a slight animation tweak when your firing on a cloaked person that happens to make the cloak obscured and easy to escape with when you hit them. This would fix my biggest issue. I dont even care that shotguns can fire and cloak before the cloak wears off...its a shotgun, your dead anyway with those at point blank. Adapt or die. Dedicated Stealth Scout. Scout instructor; Learning Coalition Sidearms are terribly underestimated.
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 695	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:46:00 - [9] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: unload a shotgun and recloak before the previous uncloaking animation has finished? LOL. Have you even played the game? How long do you think the animation takes? If you're experiencing that much slowdown on your PS3, then I'd suggest you have it brought to an authorized repair center. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1147	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:47:00 - [10] - Quote It's nice to see cleanliness being supported, and I'm all for brotherly love and all, but I still think scrubbing each other so much is a bit awkwardGÇª Me in my ADS: 1,2

NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1241	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:49:00 - [11] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Pick one: 1. Cooldown after deactivation 2. Offensive use capibilities delayed after deactivation 3. Decrease in uptime There is nothing to Fix, except for the bug that allows cloaked players to shoot while remaining cloaked.
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1130	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:49:00 - [12] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Vespasian Andendare wrote: There's nothing to fix. So its perfectly ok to unload a shotgun and recloak before the previous uncloaking animation has finished? Scrub. Fix the animation Cloak is fine Scrub Ah, the scrubbiest scrub is here to defend his crutch. damn i was reading so fast i thought you said the scrub was here to defend his "crotch" YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1222	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:49:00 - [13] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Vespasian Andendare wrote: There's nothing to fix. So its perfectly ok to unload a shotgun and recloak before the previous uncloaking animation has finished? Scrub. Fix the animation Cloak is fine Scrub Ah, the scrubbiest scrub is here to defend his crutch. Scrubtacular!
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1222	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:50:00 - [14] - Quote Chibi Andy wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Vespasian Andendare wrote: There's nothing to fix. So its perfectly ok to unload a shotgun and recloak before the previous uncloaking animation has finished? Scrub. Fix the animation Cloak is fine Scrub Ah, the scrubbiest scrub is here to defend his crutch. damn i was reading so fast i thought you said the scrub was here to defend his "crotch" Lol
Onesimus Tarsus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1735	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:51:00 - [15] - Quote Remove cloaks. Tanks too, while you're at it. Unless you're just *addicted* to wetsuit paperdolls...
Bormir1r Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 177	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:52:00 - [16] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: There's nothing to fix. Issue with NK and SG while cloaked. That needs to be fixed. "One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
mollerz 3000	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:55:00 - [17] - Quote We'll have to go with number 4- None of the above. And don't forget the most important of all, number 5- Paran has to learn to use their OP eyeballs and adapt. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Cotsy8 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 122	Posted - 2014.03.27 16:57:00 - [18] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Vespasian Andendare wrote: There's nothing to fix. So its perfectly ok to unload a shotgun and recloak before the previous uncloaking animation has finished? Scrub. Fix the animation Cloak is fine Scrub Remove the crutch, i mean cloak.
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 668	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:17:00 - [19] - Quote #1 would be a nice change. It would make cloak more about using it strategically instead of being able to cloak in and cloak out in succession. You would have to think about the best moment to deactivate it if it were to have a cooldown. em ta kool t'nod
Yan Darn Science For Death 409	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:25:00 - [20] - Quote It's only been a couple of days I'm already finding the QQ irritating. Just remove cloaks and change scout role bonus to either: 1) reduction to electronic and biotic mods. 2) profile reduction (possibly changing gal-scouts bonus to something else). Good scouts wi carry on murdering people and all the people who feel they shouldn't need situational awareness lose their strawman to ***** about. The Ghost of Bravo

Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2078	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:35:00 - [21] - Quote mollerz wrote: We'll have to go with number 4- None of the above. And don't forget the most important of all, number 5- Paran has to learn to use their OP eyeballs and adapt. Scrubmuch? Can you even kill anyone with out cloak? Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Kaughst Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 362	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:38:00 - [22] - Quote Fixing cloaks?? http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2098122737 "He said he has a alt in STB." "Everyone has a alt in STB."
Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn 165	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:40:00 - [23] - Quote To be fair. I think there are two things that could be done 1) Flux grenades disrupt Cloaks 2) Shooting a cloaked individual DOES NOT deactivate the Cloak, HOWEVER makes them more visible. (Think Predator movies-- When the Predator takes damage his cloak goes kind of haywire a bit.)
Far Fall DUST University Ivy League 32	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:41:00 - [24] - Quote increase damage to cloaked targets by 15%. So if you get caught cloaked you die.
mollerz 3008	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:42:00 - [25] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: mollerz wrote: We'll have to go with number 4- None of the above. And don't forget the most important of all, number 5- Paran has to learn to use their OP eyeballs and adapt. Scrubmuch? Can you even kill anyone with out cloak? Thousands upon thousands. With knives.. I've killed no one with a cloak, however. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 930	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:44:00 - [26] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Pick one: 1. Cooldown after deactivation 2. Offensive use capibilities delayed after deactivation 3. Decrease in uptime None of these, but make cloaked scouts as visible when stationary as when moving.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1646	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:49:00 - [27] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Vespasian Andendare wrote: There's nothing to fix. So its perfectly ok to unload a shotgun and recloak before the previous uncloaking animation has finished? Scrub. if by "unload" you mean fire a single round then finish them with the 2-3 more needed then fumble with the ****** weapon wheel until you get the cloak then push the button to recloak you are correct. the kill takes about 6-8 seconds if you are good and you're only cloaked for the first 2 at most. speed up the decloak animation and all will be right with the world. if you're doing it right then you're shooting the in the back and they wont see you anyway... GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥ Ko6 scout,
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 206	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:54:00 - [28] - Quote I'd say, for my picks: * Instant cloak deactivation * Fix the infinite cloak glitch (hacking something than swapping to a weapon so you can shoot while cloaked) * decrease visibility while slowly moving * decrease cloak time (80 seconds on a Basic model? What for?!) The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1646	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:55:00 - [29] - Quote mollerz wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: mollerz wrote: We'll have to go with number 4- None of the above. And don't forget the most important of all, number 5- Paran has to learn to use their OP eyeballs and adapt. Scrubmuch? Can you even kill anyone with out cloak? Thousands upon thousands. With knives.. I've killed no one with a cloak, however. Paran, here is a list of scouts who don't need a cloak to kill you... GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥ Ko6 scout,
Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn 166	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:58:00 - [30] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Pick one: 1. Cooldown after deactivation 2. Offensive use capibilities delayed after deactivation 3. Decrease in uptime None of these, but make cloaked scouts as visible when stationary as when moving. Not necessary my friend, Its actually hard enough to stay completely still in a fight. Cloak users havent really mastered activating and completely being still. Also the idea of being still and being completely visible adds a level of tension to the meta that is quite enjoyable. I was in this one fight that i was aware i would lose cause it was against a heavy. I cloaked up and JUST BARELY manage to flee. but he was still shooting wildly so I didn't have many options to escape without the possibility of his stray bullets killing me. I had no choice but to duck behind a crate and pray he didn't find me. The anxiety i experienced watching him coming RIGHT at me was something I hadn't experienced in a FPS for awhile. Also, the fact that he actually did walk right by me, allowing me to slip away and heal made me realize that this game just got more interesting.

MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance 402	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:59:00 - [31] - Quote I'd support a slight (.3 - .4 second) delay before being able to fire after decloaking... It's mostly a problem with the shotgun, though I've seen practically EVERY scout running a shotgun right now, which is affecting would-be-assaults pretty badly, because they're getting bodied by things they cannot see, before they have time to react to them.
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2079	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:59:00 - [32] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Pick one: 1. Cooldown after deactivation 2. Offensive use capibilities delayed after deactivation 3. Decrease in uptime None of these, but make cloaked scouts as visible when stationary as when moving. No. All 3 suggestions are reasonable on their own. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Lokun Listamenn 167	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:00:00 - [33] - Quote Denn Maell wrote: I'd say, for my picks: * Instant cloak deactivation * Fix the infinite cloak glitch (hacking something than swapping to a weapon so you can shoot while cloaked) * decrease visibility while slowly moving * decrease cloak time (80 seconds on a Basic model? What for?!) 80 seconds is for Proto... not Basic.... Basic is 30 Adv is 60 and proto is 80
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7681	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:03:00 - [34] - Quote The animation alone needs fixing. The animation just takes too long to finish before I can attack. Also, that hack-cloak glitch needs fixing as well. Beyond that, I don't see a problem with the cloak. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2079	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:03:00 - [35] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: mollerz wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: mollerz wrote: We'll have to go with number 4- None of the above. And don't forget the most important of all, number 5- Paran has to learn to use their OP eyeballs and adapt. Scrubmuch? Can you even kill anyone with out cloak? Thousands upon thousands. With knives.. I've killed no one with a cloak, however. Paran, here is a list of scouts who don't need a cloak to kill you... Don't have a problem with a true scout shot gunning me from behind. Just fotm chasing scrubs who are abusing ccps poor implementation to pretend they are good. Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7817	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:04:00 - [36] - Quote Denn Maell and Prophet, can you please edit your posts to reduce exposure to exploits? Amarr Victor
Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 207	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:04:00 - [37] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Denn Maell wrote: I'd say, for my picks: * Instant cloak deactivation * Fix the infinite cloak glitch (hacking something than swapping to a weapon so you can shoot while cloaked) * decrease visibility while slowly moving * decrease cloak time (80 seconds on a Basic model? What for?!) 80 seconds is for Proto... not Basic.... Basic is 30 Adv is 60 and proto is 80 You're sure? lol that was a long 30 seconds, then. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1398	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:06:00 - [38] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: unload a shotgun and recloak before the previous uncloaking animation has finished? LOL. Have you even played the game? How long do you think the animation takes? If you're experiencing that much slowdown on your PS3, then I'd suggest you have it brought to an authorized repair center. he's new.
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 930	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:17:00 - [39] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Pick one: 1. Cooldown after deactivation 2. Offensive use capibilities delayed after deactivation 3. Decrease in uptime None of these, but make cloaked scouts as visible when stationary as when moving. Not necessary my friend, Its actually hard enough to stay completely still in a fight. Cloak users havent really mastered activating and completely being still. Also the idea of being still and being completely visible adds a level of tension to the meta that is quite enjoyable. I was in this one fight that i was aware i would lose cause it was against a heavy. I cloaked up and JUST BARELY manage to flee. but he was still shooting wildly so I didn't have many options to escape without the possibility of his stray bullets killing me. I had no choice but to duck behind a crate and pray he didn't find me. The anxiety i experienced watching him coming RIGHT at me was something I hadn't experienced in a FPS for awhile. Also, the fact that he actually did walk right by me, allowing me to slip away and heal made me realize that this game just got more interesting. The problem is that the current mechanics promote camping and punish movement, which is the opposite of what the fastest suit in the game should be about. I've racked up 300 kills with the gallente scout in 1.8 and apart from when I'm hacking or sitting on nanohives I've always been on the move when I'm cloaked. That's what scouts should be doing, not camping an objective with a shotgun.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11833	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:18:00 - [40] - Quote Scouts having medframe levels of HP and being able to fire a shotgun immediately for gigantic alpha on decloaking with zero delay is broken. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.

Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 1030	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:20:00 - [41] - Quote Cloaks need a nerf and a buff. 1. they need less shimmer. Currently we are at full shimmer at a half walking spped. This is too much. moving with little to no shimmer should be a viable tactic. We could tie this to the skill (5% reduced shimmer per level, for instance) 2. they need their uptime and cooldowns switched. 30 seconds up with 60 seconds cooldown. currently it's too easy to run the cloak constantly. Best PVE idea I've seen. Fixed link.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1226	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:23:00 - [42] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Cloaks need a nerf and a buff. 1. they need less shimmer. Currently we are at full shimmer at a half walking spped. This is too much. moving with little to no shimmer should be a viable tactic. We could tie this to the skill (5% reduced shimmer per level, for instance) 2. they need their uptime and cooldowns switched. 30 seconds up with 60 seconds cooldown. currently it's too easy to run the cloak constantly. Then people WOULD assault scout and then corner camp for a minuet It's better as it is now.
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1270	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:26:00 - [43] - Quote 4 - taking damage while cloaked decloaks you with some penalty delay before re-cloaking (perhaps 5 secs). 5 - very brief firing delay after decloaking (0.5 secs) Best PvE idea ever!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11844	Posted - 2014.03.27 19:58:00 - [44] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Cloaks need a nerf and a buff. 1. they need less shimmer. Currently we are at full shimmer at a half walking spped. This is too much. moving with little to no shimmer should be a viable tactic. We could tie this to the skill (5% reduced shimmer per level, for instance) 2. they need their uptime and cooldowns switched. 30 seconds up with 60 seconds cooldown. currently it's too easy to run the cloak constantly. It should not be possible for you to fire instantly on coming out of cloak, either. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1524	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:02:00 - [45] - Quote The animation needs to be fixed... As amusing as it is. If your Crouch walking you should be Full cloaked... Otherwise shimmer is good. The more FPS players who haven't played with a cloaking mechanic in a FPS game, play with it... the more obvious and familiar it will become. Those from Crysis... are already picking it out like a sore thumb.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 442	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:06:00 - [46] - Quote One problem is that the standard cloak to powerful... The timers that is Dam I just start over The timers on the cloaks are to long and the recharge to fast. There is little point in going above standard and no point whatsoever to go over advanced. So both the duration and recharge need to be tuned downed across the tiers. Regards War never changes
jerrmy12 kahoalii 736	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:09:00 - [47] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: One problem is that the standard cloak to powerful... The timers that is Dam I just start over The timers on the cloaks are to long and the recharge to fast. There is little point in going above standard and no point whatsoever to go over advanced. So both the duration and recharge need to be tuned downed across the tiers. Regards Umm, no Dont nerf adv and proto Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2018	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:10:00 - [48] - Quote Set cloak time to 0 if shot while cloaked. This is all I'd like.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 3828	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:11:00 - [49] - Quote mollerz wrote: We'll have to go with number 4- None of the above. And don't forget the most important of all, number 5- Paran has to learn to use their OP eyeballs and adapt. This. I have no trouble seeing cloaked scouts. IF I am looking for them. I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 442	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:14:00 - [50] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: One problem is that the standard cloak to powerful... The timers that is Dam I just start over The timers on the cloaks are to long and the recharge to fast. There is little point in going above standard and no point whatsoever to go over advanced. So both the duration and recharge need to be tuned downed across the tiers. Regards Umm, no Dont nerf adv and proto I disagree the proto should be where the advanced is now. The advanced somewhere in between the current standard and advanced and FINALY the standard should be halved from what's its now. War never changes

Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 730	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:14:00 - [51] - Quote What about this for cloaks--even though I think they're in a good place: Being hit by a flux grenade decloaks you and empties the reserve power, but it starts recharging immediately. That'd necessarily add a delay to recloak (since you can't recloak until filled halfway UNLESS this restriction was removed due to the cloak being affected by flux grenades), but then if it affects your shields, too, then you're sort of being hit by a double attack. If anything, maybe it'd just clear the cloak but leave your shields (your cloak "took the blast") or there'd have to be other balance considerations. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
jerrmy12 kahoalii 737	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:16:00 - [52] - Quote Piraten Hovnoret wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Piraten Hovnoret wrote: One problem is that the standard cloak to powerful... The timers that is Dam I just start over The timers on the cloaks are to long and the recharge to fast. There is little point in going above standard and no point whatsoever to go over advanced. So both the duration and recharge need to be tuned downed across the tiers. Regards Umm, no Dont nerf adv and proto I disagree the proto should be where the advanced is now. The advanced somewhere in between the current standard and advanced and FINALY the standard should be halved from what's its now. No please I use the proto for being really stealthy and when 5 enemies are near you, plus just scanning for squadmates... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Onesimus Tarsus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1738	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:16:00 - [53] - Quote I think that all players should be cloaked permanently. I mean, we'll know they're around somewhere, so our razor-sharp battle senses will carry us through. Unless you're just *addicted* to wetsuit paperdolls...
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 1030	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:18:00 - [54] - Quote Min scout here Me personally I'd be ok with a offensive delay - So long as I can charge my knives quickly In other words, why should my weapon be delayed while a shotgunner blaps everyone without any notice. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Onesimus Tarsus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1739	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:33:00 - [55] - Quote Turn cloak on, shields go to 0. Turn cloak off, shields repair at normal rate after normal delay. If you don't see me, it's because I'm not where you're looking. I'd rather be unscannable than invisible.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 737	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:34:00 - [56] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Turn cloak on, shields go to 0. Turn cloak off, shields repair at normal rate after normal delay. Hell no Make shields even more useless? Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
DEZKA DIABLO Inner.Hell 535	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:38:00 - [57] - Quote 1. No 2. No 3. No Use percision mods and invest in ewar, all that sp in damage mods and dual tanking messed up ur skill tree now you want to nerf what you don't have a counter for because of how you spent your sp? NOPE! Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
Onesimus Tarsus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1739	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:38:00 - [58] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Turn cloak on, shields go to 0. Turn cloak off, shields repair at normal rate after normal delay. Hell no Make shields even more useless? Oh, come on. You guys are the unseen silent assassins who one-shot everyone. Who needs shields... Heck, Armor ought to take a small hit too. If you don't see me, it's because I'm not where you're looking. I'd rather be unscannable than invisible.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 738	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:41:00 - [59] - Quote Onesimus Tarsus wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Turn cloak on, shields go to 0. Turn cloak off, shields repair at normal rate after normal delay. Hell no Make shields even more useless? Oh, come on. You guys are the unseen silent assassins who one-shot everyone. Who needs shields... Heck, Armor ought to take a small hit too. Umm yea if im shot at and I dont strafe and a0stuff right away ir take cover im dead, shields don't need any more nerfs. Oh and you cant base that off proto shotguns... Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Onesimus Tarsus Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1739	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:43:00 - [60] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: Onesimus Tarsus wrote: Turn cloak on, shields go to 0. Turn cloak off, shields repair at normal rate after normal delay. Hell no Make shields even more useless? Oh, come on. You guys are the unseen silent assassins who one-shot everyone. Who needs shields... Heck, Armor ought to take a small hit too. Umm yea if im shot at and I dont strafe and a0stuff right away ir take cover im dead, shields don't need any more nerfs. Oh and you cant base that off proto shotguns... Welcome to scouting, enjoy the die. If you don't see me, it's because I'm not where you're looking. I'd rather be unscannable than invisible.

byte modal 54	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:48:00 - [61] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: knight of 6 wrote: mollerz wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: mollerz wrote: We'll have to go with number 4- None of the above. And don't forget the most important of all, number 5- Paran has to learn to use their OP eyeballs and adapt. Scrubmuch? Can you even kill anyone with out cloak? Thousands upon thousands. With knives.. I've killed no one with a cloak, however. Paran, here is a list of scouts who don't need a cloak to kill you... Don't have a problem with a true scout shot gunning me from behind. Just fotm chasing scrubs who are abusing ccps poor implementation to pretend they are good. Semantics. You're (we all are) still dead regardless, no? Scouts were doing this before cloaks, only now there's whole lot of em' coming over to play with a new toy. That in and of itself paints a bigger target on the situation. I personally feel it will balance itself as scouts find sub-specs to turn on cloaked specs. How many weeks has it been now since cloak has been FoTM? ;) If I had to pick from the list, I'd say recloak delay. I mean it works for Warcraft? lol, sorry. I had to ;) I wonder if that word gets filtered?? =D Anyway, ya animation speed, any glitches, and hell even a cooldown is fine. But I don't see either of the suggestions stopping scouts from shotting anyone else in the back of the head. Scout 101 stuff that's just taken a cloak for assaults to take notice and abuse it. It's annoying, I agree, but I feel and hope that scouts will take matters into their (dare I say "our"?) own hands and hunt these recent converts down killing them in cloak. Hands in the middle, everyone. GO TEAM VEN... I mean SCOUT!!! =^.^= Irony: Post #35
SgtDoughnut DUST University Ivy League 546	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:55:00 - [62] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Vespasian Andendare wrote: There's nothing to fix. So its perfectly ok to unload a shotgun and recloak before the previous uncloaking animation has finished? Scrub. Fix the animation Cloak is fine Scrub So basicly you are agreeing with number 2 then.
Cassa-Nova xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 0	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:57:00 - [63] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Paran Tadec wrote: Vespasian Andendare wrote: There's nothing to fix. So its perfectly ok to unload a shotgun and recloak before the previous uncloaking animation has finished? Scrub. Fix the animation Cloak is fine Scrub Ah, the scrubbiest scrub is here to defend his crutch. Scrubtacular! Scrubicide!
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 226	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:07:00 - [64] - Quote Calling a Nerf so soon? Well F it CCP just nerf everything till everyonne is walking in paper made rainbow dropsuits with guns that shoot bubbles & Tanks are a living freaking Nyan cat while we're at it.
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 883	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:10:00 - [65] - Quote Sure lets fix cloaks. Reduce the "Shimmer" on cloaks for when people are walking or crouch walking. It shouldn't be as bright as when someone is doing a full out sprint like it is right now. Otherwise, cloaks are fine. Leave them alone and get gud.
byte modal 54	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:10:00 - [66] - Quote ^ ^ lol <3. (not you, the one above you, but you can have one too I suppose) sadly though... I'd actually play that =\ edit: damnit. too slow. Irony: Post #35
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 132	Posted - 2014.03.29 07:35:00 - [67] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Pick one: 1. Cooldown after deactivation 2. Offensive use capibilities delayed after deactivation 3. Decrease in uptime No, I would not want any of these. I would go for: 4. Add a small activation cost on top of the constant drain. This will penalize switching spam between cloak and gun (will drop you below 50% faster), but not make a big difference if you drop a uplink or traverse an area. 5. Make a flux grenade increase the cloak shimmer effect for a short time, even when standing still. Overall, I don't have a big issue with cloaks. I am slowly adapting...
thomas mak THE-TITANS 58	Posted - 2014.03.29 07:47:00 - [68] - Quote Cloak need nerd, hard I got other ideas At least 2: Declock after being hit Ratio of cloak and CD become 1:1 Stronger out line when cloak moving Cloak decrease speed Making only scout able to cloak Much longer time needed to cloak and decloak Why tank rule the sky Why tanks are so cheap Why all the vehicle module are GONE!!!!!!!!
Marc Rime 345	Posted - 2014.03.29 10:36:00 - [69] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: 2. Offensive use capibilities delayed after deactivation This would mean that a cloaker, when spotted, has absolutely no chance of fighting back before getting killed. It also wouldn't do much for the situation people are complaining about - i.e. someone decloaking behind them, where they wouldn't see the person anyway.


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